> This user isn't yet on the list -- has anyone gone this route to
> import/play files on the Mac?
>
> OK, here's my update.  I've downloaded two files but cannot import them into
> Media 100.  Even Quicktime won't play them (it says that they are a file
> that Quicktime can't recognize).  This is the oddest detail because my tech
> guy says he plays Mpeg2 on his Mac through Quicktime regularly.

I'm fairly certain that MPEG-2 support is not yet available in QuickTime.
The latest public beta is 5.0b8 which was released only two days ago, and
it doesn't seem to recognise MPEG-2 yet.  Perhaps the tech guy was thinking
of MPEG-1 Layer II audio (often seen with the misleading file suffix .mp2).

> There is a Cleaner program bundled with Media 100 for making streaming video
> for the Web.  This program opens the files but I have not been able to
> convert them into anything recognizable to the Media 100.  This may be due
> to my lack of expertise with the Cleaner.

I didn't realise Cleaner 5 had MPEG-2 support, but now that I check the
website, it seems it does (I'll have to look into upgrading :).  I don't
have direct experience on this, but a Media 100 should be able to import
any QuickTime file.  Its native format is a hardware-accelerated QuickTime
codec which I believe Cleaner should export; though maybe it has to be
scaled to the proper frame size?

  -- Erick

This user isn't yet on the list -- has anyone gone this route to
import/play files on the Mac?

Many thanks
Rick

- - - - - - - - - - -

Rick-

OK, here's my update.  I've downloaded two files but cannot import them into
Media 100.  Even Quicktime won't play them (it says that they are a file
that Quicktime can't recognize).  This is the oddest detail because my tech
guy says he plays Mpeg2 on his Mac through Quicktime regularly.

There is a Cleaner program bundled with Media 100 for making streaming video
for the Web.  This program opens the files but I have not been able to
convert them into anything recognizable to the Media 100.  This may be due
to my lack of expertise with the Cleaner.

There may be a program out there that converts your output to my system but
I wouldn't know how to find it except by trial and error.  I'm beginning to
think that "you can't get there from here".  Please keep me posted if you
hear of anything that might help.

Thanks again for your time,

James Knight
Intelecom
jknight@...



Rick Prelinger
Prelinger Archives   http://www.prelinger.com
P.O. Box 590622, San Francisco, Calif. 94159-0622
+1 415 750-0445      Fax: +1 415 750-0607
footage@...

>
>Hi all,
>
>Just subscribed to this list and read through the old messages.  I
>thought I'd report some limited success in converting the MPEG-2's
>on a Mac, sound and all.  I had no luck with the decoder mentioned
>above, but I was able to use a program called "BBdemux" to split the
>MPEG-2 into an audio and a video stream.  The video stream was then
>decipherable in "Sparkle MPEG2Decoder".

Thanks for the info. How was the resolution? 480 x 480 which the qt
player has to render full screen? I haven't tried the bbdemux yet,
but it seems that direct playing of the movies is still unsupported.
Unless you have a lot of time, patience & hard drive space, mac users
might be in trouble. For testing purposes, could someone make a short
mpeg-2 clip downloadable on the site or somewhere?
--
tomi knuutila
mechelininkatu 23 b 54
00100 helsinki
gsm +358-40-5024115
tomtom@...

--- In moviearchive@y..., Cathy de Heer <cathy@d...> wrote:
> >mac problems: i did some searching and found some shareware that
> >would decode the mpg, converting it to format quicktime understands:
> >http://www.geocities.com/phredreic/ He is working on a converter,
> >is open source. I got it to work, showing a preview and all. there
> >seems to be a problem with the resolution - many players / encoders
> >can't convert the 480x480 resolution to a full screen video. also
> >after doing the conversion i couldn't play any sound.

Hi all,

Just subscribed to this list and read through the old messages.  I
thought I'd report some limited success in converting the MPEG-2's
on a Mac, sound and all.  I had no luck with the decoder mentioned
above, but I was able to use a program called "BBdemux" to split the
MPEG-2 into an audio and a video stream.  The video stream was then
decipherable in "Sparkle MPEG2Decoder".  Both of these programs are
available at:

http://www169.pair.com/lukifer/dvd.html

The audio stream, being just MPEG-1 Layer II, can be read natively
by QuickTime and pasted onto the video.  For best results I used
MPEG2Decoder to decompress it losslessly and then did a de-telecine
in Media Cleaner Pro, but this required an impractical amount of
intermediate hard drive space :).  If I get a chance I might be able
to put together a crude program that just reads one field of the video
and passes it directly into a QuickTime compressor.

No promises, though, since I don't have much experience in that area
(I'm just going by sample code from mpeg.org and apple.com! :).  And
since I used the shortest possible clip as a test case, there may be
audio sync issues I didn't notice...

  -- Erick

>Rick,
>     Unfortunately, I continue to have problems, whether I'm
>connecting from the office (T3, direct fibre, through Worldcom), or
>home (high-speed DSL, through Verizon). This is the *only* site from
>which I can't seem to download, but since everyone else apparently
>isn't having any problems, I'm feeling quite weird!

i have succeeded to download 4 full films, others just stopped. many
of my friends blame the same or can't even find the site or are not
allowed to download. Since smaller filesizes seem to be out of the
question, are there any possibilities for mirror sites or more stable
connections?
--
tomi knuutila
mechelininkatu 23 b 54
00100 helsinki
gsm +358-40-5024115
tomtom@...

-----Original Message-----
From: footage@... [mailto:footage@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 7:36 PM
To: moviearchive@egroups.com
Subject: [moviearchive]

Many thanks, Rod.

David, can you keep us informed o your experiences?

Rick


Rick Prelinger
Prelinger Archives / San Francisco, Calif., USA
415 750-0445

Please reply to: footage@...

He also emailed me and I told him to ask you :)

This is at the film to video transfer stage - i.e. the progressive film
material gets converted to interlaced video (and since it's NTSC stuff, the
frame rate goes from 24fps to 29.94fps).

Rod

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Prelinger [mailto:footage@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 12:33 PM
> To: moviearchive@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [moviearchive] field dominance ?
>
>
> A question from a user:
>
>
> --- begin forwarded text
>
>
> Delivered-To: footage@...
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 09:23:14 -0800
> From: Adam Levine <levine@...>
> Reply-To: levine@...
> X-Accept-Language: en,pdf
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> To: footage@...
> Subject: Movie archive question
> Status: U
>
> <snip>
>
> I was wondering if you knew about the field dominence of the video.
> That is, whether your capture card captures the lower field or the upper
> field of a frame first.
>
> <snip>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
> Rick Prelinger
> Prelinger Archives   http://www.prelinger.com
> P.O. Box 590622, San Francisco, Calif. 94159-0622
> +1 415 750-0445      Fax: +1 415 750-0607
> footage@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> moviearchive-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
>
>

A question from a user:


--- begin forwarded text


Delivered-To: footage@...
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 09:23:14 -0800
From: Adam Levine <levine@...>
Reply-To: levine@...
X-Accept-Language: en,pdf
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: footage@...
Subject: Movie archive question
Status: U

<snip>

I was wondering if you knew about the field dominence of the video.
That is, whether your capture card captures the lower field or the upper
field of a frame first.

<snip>

Any ideas?


Rick Prelinger
Prelinger Archives   http://www.prelinger.com
P.O. Box 590622, San Francisco, Calif. 94159-0622
+1 415 750-0445      Fax: +1 415 750-0607
footage@...

Bother. Was a problem with my machine. Rebooted and works now:

[salica3:~] csalinas% ping movie0.archive.org
PING movie0.archive.org (209.247.40.93): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 209.247.40.93: icmp_seq=0 ttl=245 time=6.206 ms

Sorry for the alarm.

'Ls

> your ping has "movie.archive.org" not "movie0.archive.org"   could you
> test that?

> we have gotten sporatic reports of this, but have not traced it down.

Oops copy/pasted the wrong ping. Yeah I pinged just about everything
including:

[salica3:Documentation/Commands/cvs] csalinas% ping movie0.archive.org
ping: unknown host movie0.archive.org

Weird. Works from home over PacBell DSL but not from work (Apple).

What's the IP address of "movie0.archive.org"?

'Los

Carlos,

your ping has "movie.archive.org" not "movie0.archive.org"   could you test
that?

we have gotten sporatic reports of this, but have not traced it down.

-brewster

At 07:54 PM 1/23/2001 -0800, Carlos Salinas wrote:
>Server "movie0.archive.org" no longer exists? All the movie links point
>to that:
>
>ping: unknown host movie.archive.org
>
>'Los
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>moviearchive-unsubscribe@egroups.com

Server "movie0.archive.org" no longer exists? All the movie links point
to that:

ping: unknown host movie.archive.org

'Los

How do I play one of the movies on a Mac? (with and without spending
money, preferably without)

Carlos Salinas

I fixed a few bugs that caused some file requests to return a "file not
found" error message.  Please let me know if you experience any more errors
of this type.

I will be adding the filesizes to the webpage in the next day or so.

Rick


Rick Prelinger
Prelinger Archives   http://www.prelinger.com
P.O. Box 590622, San Francisco, Calif. 94159-0622
+1 415 750-0445      Fax: +1 415 750-0607
footage@...

Rick --

>This same issue is what prevents Apple's DVD
>players from playing mpeg-2 files directly (am I correct, advanced Mac
>owners)?
>
As far as I can tell, yes -- when I try to use my DVD player (on a
PowerBook G3) to play a movie I've downloaded, nothing happens.

>There are various third-party solutions, as people have been mentioning.
>But that is the word for now regarding the Mac.

Please excuse me -- I only just got myself subscribed to the list a
couple of days ago. Was this the best Mac solution that anybody reported
-- playback without any sound?

>mac problems: i did some searching and found some shareware that
>would decode the mpg, converting it to format quicktime understands:
>http://www.geocities.com/phredreic/ He is working on a converter, and
>is open source. I got it to work, showing a preview and all. there
>seems to be a problem with the resolution - many players / encoders
>can't convert the 480x480 resolution to a full screen video. also
>after doing the conversion i couldn't play any sound.

Thanks,

Cathy

I spoke with Apple's QuickTime marketing manager today and asked him about
mpeg-2 playback on the Mac.  He told me that this functionality has been
vaguely announced as something which might be a part of future technology,
but that they don't offer it right now because of licensing reasons.
Apparently the mpeg consortium wants major license fees from them and they
are not willing to pay.  This same issue is what prevents Apple's DVD
players from playing mpeg-2 files directly (am I correct, advanced Mac
owners)?

There are various third-party solutions, as people have been mentioning.
But that is the word for now regarding the Mac.

I stand ready to be corrected in case someone has better info.

Rick


Rick Prelinger
Prelinger Archives   http://www.prelinger.com
P.O. Box 590622, San Francisco, Calif. 94159-0622
+1 415 750-0445      Fax: +1 415 750-0607
footage@...

>------
>From: Chris Dwyer <dwyer@...>
>
>I was just wondering - I was under the assumption that Windows Media Player
>would be able to play the files... but looks like I was mistaken.

You can get the mediaplayer to work by installing Elecard MPEG2
Player V1.17 from http://www.elecard.com. It costs $20 and plays the
files itself but i couldn't get full screen.

mac problems: i did some searching and found some shareware that
would decode the mpg, converting it to format quicktime understands:
http://www.geocities.com/phredreic/ He is working on a converter, and
is open source. I got it to work, showing a preview and all. there
seems to be a problem with the resolution - many players / encoders
can't convert the 480x480 resolution to a full screen video. also
after doing the conversion i couldn't play any sound.

to my knowledge, quicktime doesn't yet support mpeg-2, altough steve
promised us that last spring...mayb with the OS X?

There are some cards for mac: http://www.wiredinc.com/wired4dvd.html

>  ...Wired4DVD adds the ability to view MPEG files on the computer
>screen... Wired4DVD works in all PCI-based Macintoshes...

But thanks for the great project! Maybe the site should be split in
2: FAQ, info, contacts etc to one page and the movies to another.
Also, the MBsizes should be added next to the time, at least
approximate ones.

--
tomi knuutila
mechelininkatu 23 b 54
00100 helsinki
gsm +358-40-5024115
tomtom@...

Unfortunately I am really after a very good image at half screen size for
the best possible compression and for that I have found Quick-Time to be the
best.  As Quick Time players are available free of charge I see no hastles
here, but rather a bonus for the Mac owners, who seem to have some
difficulty in playing MPEG2 files.

There is a note on the board about which players seem to be best, the Xing
player gets a bit of a bashing, I have found Xing player 2.0.5  to be the
best for playing these files back.

Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brewster Kahle" <brewster@...>
To: <moviearchive@egroups.com>
Cc: <moviearchive@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:32 PM
Subject: file formats (was Re: [moviearchive] Macintosh users?)


>
> One of the motivating factors for choosing mpeg2 (and hopefully having a
copy in mpeg4 soon as well)  was to encourage public standards.
>
> This is not technically motivated, but rather institutional.  For long
term preservation it seems like a strong approach, but more to the point, if
a great sets of content came out in public standards then the players would
have more demand and might have a better chance of spreading to yet more
content.
>
> We have gone further and even restricting the online republishing of this
content to just mpeg2 and 4 (and open to adding other public standards to
this list).
>
> What do you think of this approach?
>
> -brewster
>
>
>
>
>
> At 05:44 PM 1/16/2001 +1000, Peter Goed wrote:
> >I have not been playing MPEG2's on a Mac, but am in the process of doing
> >something similar to your setup in Australia.
> >
> >Trying several output formats in regard to file size v quality of output,
> >has led me to using Quick Time set for both Mac and Windows.
> >
> >File sizes are somewhat smaller than for MPEG2 and quality is slightly
> >higher as long as you don't increase the picture size to full screen -
but
> >then MPEG2 loses the plot here as well.
> >
> >I presume that you have been testing other output formats as well and
must
> >have chosen MPEG2 for a specific reason?
> >
> >Tests with MPEG4 are not too good, smaller file sizes yes, but definitely
> >also a deteriorated output.
> >
> >Any thoughts on this welcome!
> >
> >Peter Goed
> >Redcliffe Picture Palace Archive
> >Redcliffe, Queensland, Australia.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Rick Prelinger" <footage@...>
> >To: <moviearchive@egroups.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 3:49 PM
> >Subject: [moviearchive] Macintosh users?
> >
> >
> >> I'm curious whether anyone's playing the MPEG2 files on a Mac, and if
so
> >> what players/tools/plug-ins that are using.  Any reports, hints,
> >> experiences would be most welcome on the list.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >>
> >> Rick Prelinger
> >> Prelinger Archives   http://www.prelinger.com
> >> P.O. Box 590622, San Francisco, Calif. 94159-0622
> >> +1 415 750-0445      Fax: +1 415 750-0607
> >> footage@...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >> moviearchive-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >moviearchive-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> moviearchive-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>

Many thanks, Rod.

David, can you keep us informed o your experiences?

Rick


Rick Prelinger
Prelinger Archives / San Francisco, Calif., USA
415 750-0445

Please reply to: footage@...

A few suggestions:

1. There is a small problem with some of the URLs - for example "20831A.mpg"
is incorrect - use "20831a.mpg" instead (lower case a).

2. Get a copy of Download Accelerator Plus - this will speed up your
downloads and open multiple connections which should keep your network
interface very busy. It can also resume from connections that get lost. It's
free from http://www.speedbit.com/

3. If you're having a problem with FTP, try using the HTTP protocol. You
need to change the URLs slightly:

ftp://movie0.archive.org/pub/20831a.mpg

becomes

http://movie0.archive.org/20831a.mpg

4. Your web browser might be setup to try to stream the MPEG files. You
don't want this because it's unlikely you'll be able to keep up with 3.5Mbps
(well, unless you have a T3). Right click on the link and select "Save As"
or use Download Accelerator.

HTH,
Rod



> -----Original Message-----
> From: David S. Rose [mailto:david@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:52 PM
> To: moviearchive@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [moviearchive] Downloading problem
>
>
> Has anyone else had a problem downloading the movie files? I'm
> beginning to
> feel like an idiot, because no matter what I do, I get "site not found"...
>
> -David
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> moviearchive-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
>
>

Has anyone else had a problem downloading the movie files? I'm beginning to
feel like an idiot, because no matter what I do, I get "site not found"...

-David

The DVD software should play MPEG-2 files just fine. Open up your DVD
software and find the File/Open option and point it at one of the files
you've downloaded. It should then play.

Rod


> -----Original Message-----
> From: footage@... [mailto:footage@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 4:43 PM
> To: moviearchive@egroups.com
> Subject: [moviearchive] fwd: question
>
>
>
> ------
> From: Chris Dwyer <dwyer@...>
> Subject:question
> Hi Rick,
>
>
> Again, thanks for the tip to your website.
>
>
> I was just wondering - I was under the assumption that Windows
> Media Player
>
> would be able to play the files... but looks like I was mistaken.
>  The site
>
> says to purchase either decoding hardware or software, with a lot of
>
> references to DVD decoders.  I already have DVD hardware installed in my
>
> hard drive, so my question is this:  Can decoding be done in any
> way with my
>
> existing DVD hardware, and if not, will installing any of these
> recommended
>
> programs interfere with my existing DVD player?  I'm hesitant to buy more
>
> software/hardware for my computer right now, but if it's necessary I will
>
> look into it.
>
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
>
> Chris Dwyer
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rick Prelinger
> Prelinger Archives / San Francisco, Calif., USA
> 415 750-0445
>
> Please reply to: footage@...
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> moviearchive-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
>
>

------
From: Chris Dwyer <dwyer@...>
Subject:question
Hi Rick,


Again, thanks for the tip to your website.


I was just wondering - I was under the assumption that Windows Media Player

would be able to play the files... but looks like I was mistaken.  The site

says to purchase either decoding hardware or software, with a lot of

references to DVD decoders.  I already have DVD hardware installed in my

hard drive, so my question is this:  Can decoding be done in any way with my

existing DVD hardware, and if not, will installing any of these recommended

programs interfere with my existing DVD player?  I'm hesitant to buy more

software/hardware for my computer right now, but if it's necessary I will

look into it.


Thanks a lot.


Chris Dwyer






Rick Prelinger
Prelinger Archives / San Francisco, Calif., USA
415 750-0445

Please reply to: footage@...

One of the motivating factors for choosing mpeg2 (and hopefully having a copy in
mpeg4 soon as well)  was to encourage public standards.

This is not technically motivated, but rather institutional.  For long term
preservation it seems like a strong approach, but more to the point, if a great
sets of content came out in public standards then the players would have more
demand and might have a better chance of spreading to yet more content.

We have gone further and even restricting the online republishing of this
content to just mpeg2 and 4 (and open to adding other public standards to this
list).

What do you think of this approach?

-brewster





At 05:44 PM 1/16/2001 +1000, Peter Goed wrote:
>I have not been playing MPEG2's on a Mac, but am in the process of doing
>something similar to your setup in Australia.
>
>Trying several output formats in regard to file size v quality of output,
>has led me to using Quick Time set for both Mac and Windows.
>
>File sizes are somewhat smaller than for MPEG2 and quality is slightly
>higher as long as you don't increase the picture size to full screen - but
>then MPEG2 loses the plot here as well.
>
>I presume that you have been testing other output formats as well and must
>have chosen MPEG2 for a specific reason?
>
>Tests with MPEG4 are not too good, smaller file sizes yes, but definitely
>also a deteriorated output.
>
>Any thoughts on this welcome!
>
>Peter Goed
>Redcliffe Picture Palace Archive
>Redcliffe, Queensland, Australia.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rick Prelinger" <footage@...>
>To: <moviearchive@egroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 3:49 PM
>Subject: [moviearchive] Macintosh users?
>
>
>> I'm curious whether anyone's playing the MPEG2 files on a Mac, and if so
>> what players/tools/plug-ins that are using.  Any reports, hints,
>> experiences would be most welcome on the list.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> Rick Prelinger
>> Prelinger Archives   http://www.prelinger.com
>> P.O. Box 590622, San Francisco, Calif. 94159-0622
>> +1 415 750-0445      Fax: +1 415 750-0607
>> footage@...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>> moviearchive-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>moviearchive-unsubscribe@egroups.com

I have not been playing MPEG2's on a Mac, but am in the process of doing
something similar to your setup in Australia.

Trying several output formats in regard to file size v quality of output,
has led me to using Quick Time set for both Mac and Windows.

File sizes are somewhat smaller than for MPEG2 and quality is slightly
higher as long as you don't increase the picture size to full screen - but
then MPEG2 loses the plot here as well.

I presume that you have been testing other output formats as well and must
have chosen MPEG2 for a specific reason?

Tests with MPEG4 are not too good, smaller file sizes yes, but definitely
also a deteriorated output.

Any thoughts on this welcome!

Peter Goed
Redcliffe Picture Palace Archive
Redcliffe, Queensland, Australia.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Prelinger" <footage@...>
To: <moviearchive@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 3:49 PM
Subject: [moviearchive] Macintosh users?


> I'm curious whether anyone's playing the MPEG2 files on a Mac, and if so
> what players/tools/plug-ins that are using.  Any reports, hints,
> experiences would be most welcome on the list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
>
> Rick Prelinger
> Prelinger Archives   http://www.prelinger.com
> P.O. Box 590622, San Francisco, Calif. 94159-0622
> +1 415 750-0445      Fax: +1 415 750-0607
> footage@...
>
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> moviearchive-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>

I'm curious whether anyone's playing the MPEG2 files on a Mac, and if so
what players/tools/plug-ins that are using.  Any reports, hints,
experiences would be most welcome on the list.

Thanks,

Rick


Rick Prelinger
Prelinger Archives   http://www.prelinger.com
P.O. Box 590622, San Francisco, Calif. 94159-0622
+1 415 750-0445      Fax: +1 415 750-0607
footage@...

Duly noted.  We'll discuss these and do as much as possible as the site
evolves.

Many thanks,

Rick

>A couple of suggestions for the site
>
>1. Put the size of the file with the time in the description.
>
>2. Change it so the downloader gives you a chance to save it to a particular
>partition rather than just to a temporary file.
>
>3. Make it easier for the more experienced users by giving the FTP address,
>some with wider bandwidth are sometimes happy to download several files at
>the one time, but want to be able to renter a file from any dropout back to
>the point they were at - very pertinent with such large files.
>
>Pete.
>


Rick Prelinger
Prelinger Archives   http://www.prelinger.com
P.O. Box 590622, San Francisco, Calif. 94159-0622
+1 415 750-0445      Fax: +1 415 750-0607
footage@...

A couple of suggestions for the site

1. Put the size of the file with the time in the description.

2. Change it so the downloader gives you a chance to save it to a particular
partition rather than just to a temporary file.

3. Make it easier for the more experienced users by giving the FTP address,
some with wider bandwidth are sometimes happy to download several files at
the one time, but want to be able to renter a file from any dropout back to
the point they were at - very pertinent with such large files.

Pete.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Prelinger" <footage@...>
To: <moviearchive@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 2:38 PM
Subject: [moviearchive] welcome!


> Welcome to the moviearchive discussion list.
>
> What's new?
>
> As of this evening (Friday, January 12th), the site now works with the
> Netscape browser.  Thanks to Cathy de Heer for making this happen.  (I've
> also been told that it works with Opera, in case there are any Opera
> browser users here.)
>
> I'm working on transferring, digitizing, uploading, and preparing metadata
> for the last 300 or so titles.  About 700 have been digitized, but not all
> have been uploaded to our site.  The full 1001 titles should be ready to
go
> in late February or March (...the last 5% of any project is the hardest to
> finish, of course).
>
> I recognize that the site is clunky and the homepage overlong.  Redesign
> efforts are in progress.  We are also planning to work with a group of
> information science students in March to build a search engine that will
> support different kinds of queries, enabling users to search whatever data
> exists in our database and choose films or parts of films relevant to
their
> needs.
>
> And people are braving bandwidth tieups and downloading films in
> significant numbers, according to the ftp logs.
>
> I've started a very small webpage on intellectual property issues,
focussed
> specifically on IP "preserves and conservancies."  It's reachable from my
> homepage (see below).
>
> I hope to hear your suggestions, bug reports, complaints, and ideas.
>
> Rick
>
>
> Rick Prelinger
> Prelinger Archives   http://www.prelinger.com
> P.O. Box 590622, San Francisco, Calif. 94159-0622
> +1 415 750-0445      Fax: +1 415 750-0607
> footage@...
>
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> moviearchive-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
>

Welcome to the moviearchive discussion list.

What's new?

As of this evening (Friday, January 12th), the site now works with the
Netscape browser.  Thanks to Cathy de Heer for making this happen.  (I've
also been told that it works with Opera, in case there are any Opera
browser users here.)

I'm working on transferring, digitizing, uploading, and preparing metadata
for the last 300 or so titles.  About 700 have been digitized, but not all
have been uploaded to our site.  The full 1001 titles should be ready to go
in late February or March (...the last 5% of any project is the hardest to
finish, of course).

I recognize that the site is clunky and the homepage overlong.  Redesign
efforts are in progress.  We are also planning to work with a group of
information science students in March to build a search engine that will
support different kinds of queries, enabling users to search whatever data
exists in our database and choose films or parts of films relevant to their
needs.

And people are braving bandwidth tieups and downloading films in
significant numbers, according to the ftp logs.

I've started a very small webpage on intellectual property issues, focussed
specifically on IP "preserves and conservancies."  It's reachable from my
homepage (see below).

I hope to hear your suggestions, bug reports, complaints, and ideas.

Rick


Rick Prelinger
Prelinger Archives   http://www.prelinger.com
P.O. Box 590622, San Francisco, Calif. 94159-0622
+1 415 750-0445      Fax: +1 415 750-0607
footage@...

-brewster