Yes there is one. Its located just south of Rolla on HWY 63 just as you go accross the Little Piny located on private property on the south west corner of...
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Watkins, Conor Maris ...
conor_watkins
Oct 15, 2007 4:49 pm
Your description pretty much matches the description I got so I bet this is the same place. It was described to me as a maze of concrete chutes so I think...
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Watkins, Conor Maris ...
conor_watkins
Oct 16, 2007 10:55 pm
I know this has come up before but I have a quick question about state trespass laws as they apply to streams, especially one where the stream isn't flowing...
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Mike Flannigan
mikeflan@...
Oct 17, 2007 12:27 am
You say downstream, but I suspect you mean upstream. From your description I'm guessing it is just west of the "Piney" in the center of this map: ...
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Jo Schaper
ozarkette
Oct 17, 2007 1:37 am
... The whole stream trespass law ONLY applies to navigable waters, and streams generally considered by long use as navigable year round. The Army Corps...
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Watkins, Conor Maris ...
conor_watkins
Oct 17, 2007 3:17 am
Yes, I don't think that either of the Clifty Creeks would count as a navigable stream EVER used for commerce. People must be walking across private land to...
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Richard
richjsn1
Oct 20, 2007 1:55 pm
Thats a cool website. I remember we parked at Lane springs in the primative campground and camped there. (This was about 7 years ago) Once you get into Lane...
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Mike Flannigan
mikeflan@...
Oct 22, 2007 12:31 am
Sounds good. Get some pics if you can. I looked at my 1951 Rolla 15' topo and it shows no sign of a fish hatchery there. Maybe someone on the list has an...
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firebugbbq
Nov 19, 2007 6:10 pm
interesting thread from another forum... I find Al Agnew's comments to be especially worthwhile. http://ozarkanglers.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7022...
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Brian Rickard
single_dad63376
Nov 19, 2007 7:22 pm
I found this link to be helpful. My understanding that you can get out of the canoe if you are in the floodline of the streambank. so if the stream is down the...
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Brian Rickard
single_dad63376
Nov 19, 2007 7:26 pm
This is what i cut-n-paste from the prioremailed link. Misconception: Only certain large rivers, capable of navigation by motorized ships carrying commercial ...
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Benjamin Thomas
BENJAMINTHOMAS
Nov 19, 2007 7:47 pm
This summer I had a discussion with a lovely Sherrifs Deputy on this exact subject (as I was standing on a gravel bar.) Turns out he disagreed with me and got...
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Brian Rickard
single_dad63376
Nov 19, 2007 7:58 pm
A gravel bar? Everyone stops at a gravel bar to rest and eat lunch. The law can suck, too bad we do not have more money to fight. We learn from our and other ...
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firebugbbq
Nov 20, 2007 12:48 am
I was unaware of the situation they discuss re: Osage fork of the Gasconade. I browsed quite a bit at that forum. Separate forums for the different Missouri...
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Jo Schaper
ozarkette
Nov 20, 2007 1:30 am
... and eat lunch. The law can suck, too bad we do not have more money to fight. We learn from our and other mistakes,! I guess next time I would talk to a...
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Watkins, Conor Maris ...
conor_watkins
Nov 20, 2007 6:17 pm
I always heard that it was legal to be alongside a navigable stream as long as you are below the normal high water line. I interpret this as the area where...
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Jo Schaper
ozarkette
Nov 30, 2007 7:25 pm
Does anyone know how the community of Czar or the Czar Tower got its name? -- Geo Communications Services -- www.geocommunications.net Jo Schaper's Missouri...
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Mike Flannigan
mikeflan@...
Dec 1, 2007 1:45 am
No. I've wondered that myself. I don't think it is a family name, but I could be wrong. Mike...
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huz001
Dec 1, 2007 2:15 am
"The Czar Post Office, located in SW Crawford County, was established in about 1900. The name of only one Postmaster is known. The place never became very...
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Jo Schaper
ozarkette
Dec 1, 2007 3:14 am
... Well there apparently is still a Baptist Church there and an active cemetery.(Someone was buried there this past June.) The fire tower (Czar Tower) is on...
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Jo Schaper
ozarkette
Dec 3, 2007 4:51 am
Copy to mo-outdoor-resources: Dear Cole, Well, I found out that the town of Czar was founded in 1892, and it acquired a post office about 1900. A member of...
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firebugbbq
Dec 6, 2007 6:42 pm
Thanks for putting this up---some interesting stuff. The only person named Finis I ever heard of was an old-timer down around Devil's Elbow. I would guess he...
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steelville
gigacoder
Dec 7, 2007 1:42 am
Thanks Jo I'm an expatriate Missourian living in S. Florida. Both my parents were born in Crawford County. I suscribe because although a city slicker from St....
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Watkins, Conor Maris ...
conor_watkins
Dec 7, 2007 3:30 am
Yes, my article is still up at http://www.rollanet.org/~conorw/cwome/article33&34combined.htm Also, Rolla had it own version of the National Geographic article...
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steelville
gigacoder
Dec 9, 2007 3:55 am
Thanks for leaving it up, Conor. By the way, as an FYI. If the National Geographic can get something so really badly wrong that we all know so very well, you...
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Watkins, Conor Maris ...
conor_watkins
Dec 13, 2007 9:49 pm
Tomorrow morning will mark the 3rd anniversary of the Taum Sauk Upper Reservoir failure. Anyways, I thought some here might be interested in seeing some links...
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pmpsoft
Jan 1, 2008 9:48 pm
Before reading this Post-Dispatch article, I hadn't realized the reason they closed the connection at Castlewood State Park between the River Scene Trail and...
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Jamez
kc0yef
Jan 3, 2008 2:26 am
Hi, Just joined... been a caver for about 30 years and about ready for some Ozark adventures James...
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Mike Flannigan
mikeflan@...
Jan 3, 2008 3:12 am
So you are an old timer. So am I. I started caving in 1975 at Parkway West. So you are still in MO, heh? I'm in Houston, TX. Mike...
