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Re: [mizz-code] Osage Diamonds question

OK, mizz checks.
 
1) Traditional
0 base
1 1
2 1,(s)5b
3 1,2b
4 5
5 5,1bi
6 1
7 1,5a
8 1h,2a
9 (1h*)1l
10 2.6,qu (=on 1d-2d)
11 (auto off 2 old) or 2 old
12 2,2.6 (keep 2 loop high position with 3) 
13 5
14 Caroline
 
2) Easy mizz way
0 base
1 1
2 1,(s)5b
3 1,2b
4 5
5 5,1bi
6 1
7 1,5a
8 1h,2a
9 (1h*)1l
10 2e,(2b)qu (=on 1d-2d)
11 2.3h,2b
12 5
13 Caroline
 
Almost of traditional figure has specially traditional method,
But Mizz code is not belong to hands move, just fly the string.
independent from traditional hands move.
Analysis is required to get figure.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jamis Buck
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:05 PM
Subject: [mizz-code] Osage Diamonds question

 

In order to stretch my understanding of mizz code I've been working on
transcribing the figures in "String Figures and How to Make Them"
(http://www.stringfigures.info/cfj/) into mizz code. Surprisingly,
I've encountered a situation I'm not sure how to describe in mizz code
while transcribing Osage Diamonds. Here's what I've got:

0 base
1 1
2 1,(s)5b
3 1,2b
4 5
5 5,1bi
6 1
7 1,5a
8 1h,2a
9 (1h*)1l
10 ???
11 5
12 SPR & arrange

Note step 10. This is what is typically described as "insert
forefinger into triangles near thumbs, let forefinger loop slip off of
finger, and rotate finger away and up." In mizz code terms, I think it
would be something like this:

10 2bd,(2b)qu (auto-off 2)

However, it's not a loop around a palmar string so I don't think q is
the right term for it. It's like q, except it hooks around 1b/2a.

In thinking about this, I realized that q and d (diamond strings)
could be generalized as a predicate Q(x), which represents the set of
strings that loop around x. Then, we could define q, d1, d1d, etc.
like this:

q = Q(p)
d1 = Q(5b)u1 or Q(5b)d1 (assuming 5b is the far transverse string)
d1d = Q(1a)u1 or Q(1a)d1 (assuming 1a is the near transverse string)
etc.

Of course, we would want to keep "q", "d1", "d1d", etc. because they
are simpler to type. But having a generalization would let us say
things like:

10 2bd,(2b)Q(1b)u

without having to introduce another special character for every
possible kind of loop.

It gets a little awkward when you're using it in an under path,
because of the parentheses (example from my transcription of "Seven
Stars" from CFJ):

3.6,(2b Q(1b)d)Q(1b)u

I think it works okay, though. What do you think, mizz?

- Jamis



Wed Nov 4, 2009 2:58 pm

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In order to stretch my understanding of mizz code I've been working on transcribing the figures in "String Figures and How to Make Them" ...
Jamis Buck
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Nov 4, 2009
1:06 pm

OK, mizz checks. 1) Traditional 0 base 1 1 2 1,(s)5b 3 1,2b 4 5 5 5,1bi 6 1 7 1,5a 8 1h,2a 9 (1h*)1l 10 2.6,qu (=on 1d-2d) 11 (auto off 2 old) or 2 old 12...
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Nov 4, 2009
2:58 pm

Thanks for the check. I thought q could only refer to a loop around a palmar string, but if it may be "redefined" like that, then that will be fine. I'll ...
Jamis Buck
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Nov 4, 2009
3:28 pm

... Gah, nevermind, I get it now. "from the back of 1 to the back of 2". I was stuck thinking of it in terms of "from the far side of 1 to the near side of 2"....
Jamis Buck
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Nov 4, 2009
4:01 pm

Hello Jamis, I would like to describe Osage Diamonds (Diamonds 4 with snakes and crosses is mizzed naming) as follows. Because it is easy and normal display, ...
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Nov 5, 2009
6:50 am

Very nice, using an inner pull on that final display really gives a powerful ending, and repeatable, as you said. In general, I'm finding the inner pull...
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Nov 5, 2009
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