... But I _have_ a Cosmic Mind. What do I do now? (Old fannish joke.) -- Dick Eney "I have said unto you, ye are gods. That pretty well wraps it up, doesn't ...
... I can do that, or I can send it on either a floppy or a mini-CD. PJane, which would you prefer? -- Dick = = = = = = = = = = Wot the hell? When I tried to...
Just came across this email in my huge backlog. Rudyard Kipling also wrote a poem about Mithraic matters, as I recall. Someone (I think it was Dick?) recited...
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Apr 21, 2005 9:10 pm
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Hi, Arni! While digging through the huge backlog in my e-letterbox, I stumbled across this. Hannah Shapero (one of the attendees at the recent Mithracon) had...
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Apr 21, 2005 9:41 pm
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Thank you for that! I'm still here and still interested! Kate L ... From: J. T. Sibley To: mithras@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:12 AM ...
i know i'm not supposed to speak, promises and all that, but this is interesting.. how about tauroctony = triangle (or tetractys if i understand hannah's...
an obvious problem with this is that the tauroctony symbol--the Mithras-bull group--is directly borrowed from the standard Greek representation of sacrifice:...
Hi, all! Cleaning out old e-correspondence, and came across this thread. Which reminded me of a question. In the scenarios of Mithras carrying the bull, do we...
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Apr 23, 2005 9:32 pm
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On the subject of geometry, and aside from the interesting problem of explaining the apparent triangular layout that involves Mithras atop the bull, there is...
... Mithras-bull group--is directly borrowed from the standard Greek representation of sacrifice: the Nike-bull group. One would also have to explain the...
i've been adding greek letter/numbers to the tetraktys and to a possible 5 by 5 grid it sits on.. all sorts of interesting patterns emerge. converting the...
Couple of responses: Jane Mithras clearly kills the bull within the cave - what is the significance of capturing the bull if it was already in the cave? I.e.,...
Hi, there! Now, the question is: was the bull really killed in a cave, or was the "cave" representation in the Tauroctonies actually a graphic description of...
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Apr 28, 2005 4:36 am
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Thank You Hannah! Your post was what I needed in this very moment for my paper about possible "occult stuff" in Mithraism :-) I do believe there is way more to...
I've been trying to contact pjane with the message below, but I keep getting the message bounced with an assertion that her address has been blocked for spam....
Jane, "Now the question is: was the bull really killed in a cave, or was the "cave" representation in the Tauroctonies actually a graphic description of the...
I thought the cave, certainly in some myths, is the traditional resting place of the sun and the place of its rebirth/regeneration? Kate L ... From: Park...
Yes, it is. But since common iconography shows wheat sprouting from the wound in the shoulder?, I don't think the 'original' bull slaying would have happened...
One of the few things we know for certain about the mysteries (from Eubulous via Porphyry) is that the cave stood as a symbol for the cosmos. In amuch as the...
All, First of all the wheat only spouts from the wound on the oldest known tauroctony (i.e., the standard iconography apparently was not settled upon at that...
... Actually, that makes (mystical) sense -- well, not the Twilight Zone, because Rod Serling copyrighted that, but Mithras dragging the Bull from the...
... If it's a symbolic cave, perhaps the crop would be symbolic wheat. As in "give us this day our daily bread", where "bread" = "food of any kind". -- Dick...
Okay. Back to the cave as the receptacle of the sun when it rises and sets. Early depictions of Isis show her wearing the horned headpiece with the sundisc...
... I think that here "cosmos" = "material universe", as distinguished from the Platonic Universe of "true" forms. Am I misreading? What grounds are there for...
Kate, "the sun was in Taurus" Sol's quadriga is always placed on the left above the scorpion = sun in Scorpius. The moon is descending, usually in a cow pulled...
... It is pretty definitely the 'ear of wheat' in Mesopotamian tradition. I don't have my references with me right now, but David Brown's recent _Mesopotamian...
Actually, as I recall, the sun (in ancient Egyptian lore) traveled under the earth in a boat and was delivered to the eastern horizon just in time to travel ...
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