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4724 bradley Skene
malkhos Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2003
1:50 pm
It was common to find sacrices offered by an individual in return for some specific purpose, but that is perhaps a secondary or derived use of sacrifice which...
4725 aion
phaeded216 Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2003
6:19 pm
Dear Tory, To add to what Bradley stated - there is no concrete evidence for a bull-slaying ROMAN Mithras until ca. 100 CE, thus Mithraism being a model for...
4726 aion
phaeded216 Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2003
7:21 pm
"You seem to me to be going to extreme lengths to take a few scant pieces of evidence and favorable suppositions to give Sirius an important role at Commagene...
4727 Tory Kaupang
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Dec 2, 2003
2:22 am
John, Thank you for the response, and for the link. It will prove helpful. I too believe there is no substantial link between the two religions. Have you...
4728 Tory Kaupang
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Dec 2, 2003
2:31 am
Bradley, Thank you for your comments, they will prove helpful to me. I may have more questions in the future. Thanks much, Tory bradley Skene...
4729 hammondhmm@...
rammo65 Offline Send Email
Dec 2, 2003
11:17 am
I think all your correspondants need to go further back into early religion. There are proto- religions which contain the essence of many of the features in...
4730 Jean
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Dec 2, 2003
11:29 am
dear Tory, I presume Bradley is a kind of teacher, seeing his manner to answer your letter. But what you see here is also the way to follow if you are a...
4731 Antonius
muwasillis Offline Send Email
Dec 2, 2003
11:48 am
Hello Bradley, ... Cheers, Tony __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/...
4732 Antonius
muwasillis Offline Send Email
Dec 2, 2003
11:55 am
Dear all, Christianity as we know it did not exist in the first century AD, but developed its form over a long period of time. Mithraism survived into the ...
4733 Antonius
muwasillis Offline Send Email
Dec 2, 2003
12:30 pm
Hello Tory, Plutarch, who is generally regarded as a fairly reliable source, claimed that Mithraism first came to Roman attention in 67 BCE - more than a ...
4734 Antonius
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Dec 2, 2003
12:30 pm
Hello Tory, Plutarch, who is generally regarded as a fairly reliable source, claimed that Mithraism first came to Roman attention in 67 BCE - more than a ...
4735 dorjegiza Offline Send Email Dec 2, 2003
12:43 pm
greetings, probably a silly comment but; "call no man father(pater) but the father which is in heaven" could suggest that the man himself was aware of some...
4736 bradley Skene
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Dec 2, 2003
4:55 pm
The Oldest Mithraic monuments come from around 100 or just before, And tehy appear at the same all over Italy and Germany Statius, in the 80s, is the first...
4737 aion
phaeded216 Offline Send Email
Dec 2, 2003
6:34 pm
Tory, "Have you read anything of Ulansey's? I have read a little, but have not found if he actually thinks there is a link or not. " Yes I've read him and...
4738 gtosiris@... Send Email Dec 2, 2003
7:50 pm
On 2 Dec 2003 at 6:17, hammondhmm@... wrote: [snip] ... Hi Rose. From memory the Xmas tree is recent and the star on top is "the star of Bethlehem." No...
4739 Inessa
lester_ness2000 Offline Send Email
Dec 2, 2003
11:42 pm
... I've read his major book, on Mithraic origins, and I've had some private correspondance with him. I can't say I'm totally convinced that Mithraism began...
4740 bradley Skene
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Dec 3, 2003
1:30 am
Well, this demonic counterfeit theory applied to all of graeco-Roman religion. Mithriasm is actually not mentioned that frequently by the fathers. Mithriasm...
4741 bradley Skene
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Dec 3, 2003
1:31 am
Well, this demonic counterfeit theory applied to all of graeco-Roman religion. Mithriasm is actually not mentioned that frequently by the fathers. Mithriasm...
4742 William McReynolds
Hannibal1956 Offline Send Email
Dec 3, 2003
1:42 am
The merger, (and perhaps merger is too strong a word), of Christianity and Mithraism would have been a slow and gradual thing, as was Constantine's conversion...
4743 Antonius
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Dec 3, 2003
3:07 am
Bradley, Tory, and all, I must say, Bradley, that your cavalier use of classical texts is dissapointing. You give all the appearances of a scholar, and...
4744 bradley Skene
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Dec 3, 2003
3:23 am
The Plutarch reference is difficult. It goes against all other evidence for the origin of Mithriasm. Probably it is best to consider it arising from some...
4745 bradley Skene
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Dec 3, 2003
3:33 am
The cohesion of ancient society depended on the maintaince of clear-cut relationships of power, status, and rank. Christianity was a revolutioanry religion...
4746 Antonius
muwasillis Offline Send Email
Dec 3, 2003
4:12 am
Dear Jean, I just wrote an off-list letter to Tory - I am always sorry when someone asks a genuine and valid question and is then mislead by someone apparently...
4747 bradley Skene
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Dec 3, 2003
5:00 am
You seem to think that this late dating of Mithraism is some personal argument I am making. Not so. It is the concenssus opinion of Beck, Gordon, Claus,...
4748 John Faerseth
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Dec 3, 2003
1:21 pm
What I find interesting, considering the little-known relations between religions in early Christian times, is the fact that the Emperor Alexander Severus ...
4749 bradley Skene
malkhos Offline Send Email
Dec 3, 2003
2:51 pm
Now I see what you're getting at, that the taurcotony seeks to associate the flow of blessing from heaven in cult with the natural actions of the stars casting...
4750 bradley Skene
malkhos Offline Send Email
Dec 3, 2003
8:18 pm
The trouble with this, it comes from the Historia Augusta, a far from reliable source. Yet, I do not dismiss it for this reason: Porphryry, writing probably in...
4751 Aeon Abraxas
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Dec 3, 2003
8:50 pm
Greetings, Can anyone provide any references to research the ancient 'star lore' alluded to here? Regards Peter bradley Skene <malkhos@...> wrote: Now I...
4752 aion
phaeded216 Offline Send Email
Dec 3, 2003
9:43 pm
Malkhos, "...but all of the stars were invovled in this process, and others besides Sirius had special roles in it, inlcuding the Pleiades, which, if we...
4753 Inessa
lester_ness2000 Offline Send Email
Dec 3, 2003
10:14 pm
... In general, it was an unusual thing to do, as Christianity had been an illegal cultus (perhaps like Falungong in China today) for a long time. Most of the...
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