On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> 5. What else does MARCH do?
>
> Lots of fun stuff.  The most visible thing we do is maintain our Yahoo
> discussion group.  Activity-wise, our flagship event will be the Vintage
> Computer Festival East.  Our first edition of that hobbyist convention (and
the
> third VCF East event overall) will be held Saturday, May 13, 2006 at the
InfoAge
> facility.  We also participate in the Trenton Computer Festival every April.
> Once we make it through the VCF event, we'll start planning other events such
as
> a swap meet, regional gatherings, and perhaps a road trip.  We also offer an
> online inventory database to help you (and us) keep track of our collections.

Might want to update those "will be"s.

> 12. I have some other question not on this FAQ.
>
> Okay.  Tell us what it is.  Do so again by posting to our message boards or
> pinging me (evan@...) ... ask us anything, we're not shy!  (And
moreover,
> unlike some computer clubs, we're not cliquey.  All are welcome here!)

<raises hand>I have a question:
Who are the MARCH officers? Who's in charge of what? Someone's in charge
right? :-)

 			 Alexey

--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, Alexey Toptygin <alexeyt@...>
wrote:
> <raises hand>I have a question:
> Who are the MARCH officers?

See number 8.

> On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>> 5. What else does MARCH do?

I've needed to update the FAQ for a long time .... thanks for keeping me
on my toes about it!  Will do ASAP.

Long-term loans are fine with me.


> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006, Jim Scheef wrote:
>
>> Almost all of the books, manuals and guides are the type of materials I
>> want us to accumulate in the MARCH Reference Library. Hopefully this
>> library will become a valuable resource for people restoring and using
>> vintage computers and software.
>
> Cool, I'm glad you're interested.
>
>> To help get the library going I plan to donate all of the installation
>> guides and manuals I've accumulated over the years for various PC
>> adapter cards. Remember when adapter cards had jumpers and switches?
>> Documentation for boards and computers sold before the Internet are hard
>> or impossible to find online. Our library can provide a central
>> respository to fill that void.
>
> That's what I think too.
>
>> Your reluctance to donate all your stuff outright is understandable. We
>> will need to develop means to document ownership of artifacts on load to
>> both the museum and the library that does not deface the item yet still
>> allows for it's use (on site) by members. In the meatime, please hold
>> your haul while we work with InfoAge on space, obtain book shelves and
>> filing cabinets, etc.
>
> The reason I say 'indefinite loan' is becasue I've seen way too many
> volunteer-run organizations come and go over the years. Sometimes vibrant
> groups would die literally overnight... I hope this never happens to
> MARCH, but in the unfortunate case it does, I'd like to know that I can
> recover my donations and they won't be completely lost. Another reason
> I've heard for 'indefinite loan' type donations (though I'm not sure I buy
> it) is that, since the loaned items are not technically the museum's
> property, they cannot be confiscated by the bank if the museum becomes
> financially liable for huge sums of money, for example due to lawsuit.
>
>  		 Alexey
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

On the edge of what many consider "vintage", but cool none-the-less.  I
have picked up a free Amiga 3000 with Commdore Multisynch model 1950
monitor.  The computer does not work, but I have not spent much time yet to
restore.    It worked before being put into storage.

I also got a Fargo Primera Pro will lots of spare cartridges.  This printer
was capable of doing wax paper printing and I have what I believe to be 3
boxes of the supplies.  Anyone want the printer?

I am off to the VCF this morning at about 5AM.  Take it easy.  I will bring
a video camera.

Bill D

Quick report from the VCF

1) My soldering iron, crimper and soldersucker were confisgated at
the airport.  (I am signed up for the PICO workshop) I tried to explain
that my bomb was checked with my luggage and that there was no danger
because it still needed few more solders... but they did not see
it my way.  The thing that makes me mad is that I took the items
to the security office before I tried to pass through to see if I
needed to check the items.  I was told no, they were OK.  Then I
went through the 599 person line to find out that they changed their
mind.  No biggie, there is a nearby RaDIO ShACK.

2) tONIGHT I am going to the coputer history museum (where the vcf
is held) tonight to help out. It will be fun to put the names to
the faces of people I have known through email but never met.  First
however I am exhaused...going to take a nap. my body thinks it's
9:30pm, not 6:30

3) I am not exhibiting.  I do plan to make a video of the event.

4) I am using one of these roll up keyboards.  Forgive my typos.
I would give it a C-


Take care

Bill


-- E N D --

Bill,

Have fun and try to keep Evan out of trouble! ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message ----
From: B Degnan <billdeg@...>
To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2006 9:17:14 PM
Subject: [midatlanticretro] Report from VCF

Quick report from the VCF

1) My soldering iron, crimper and soldersucker were confisgated at
the airport.  (I am signed up for the PICO workshop) I tried to explain
that my bomb was checked with my luggage and that there was no danger
because it still needed few more solders... but they did not see
it my way.  The thing that makes me mad is that I took the items
to the security office before I tried to pass through to see if I
needed to check the items.  I was told no, they were OK.  Then I
went through the 599 person line to find out that they changed their
mind.  No biggie, there is a nearby RaDIO ShACK.

2) tONIGHT I am going to the coputer history museum (where the vcf
is held) tonight to help out. It will be fun to put the names to
the faces of people I have known through email but never met.  First
however I am exhaused...going to take a nap. my body thinks it's
9:30pm, not 6:30

3) I am not exhibiting.  I do plan to make a video of the event.

4) I am using one of these roll up keyboards.  Forgive my typos.
I would give it a C-


Take care

Bill


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Yahoo! Groups Links

Someone emailed me a few days ago looking for an up-close photo of something
specific here at the VCF.  I don't remember who or what.  So email me back or
call me ASAP!  6465469999.

-Evan

Sent from the Treo 700p of Evan Koblentz ... Evan@...

On a related note...If you don't find out what you need to photograph,
I have a lot of video.

At the Computer History Museum... I have taken video of the entire
"Visual Storage" exhibit, the regular museum exhibits, most of the
VCF exhibits, and portions of the Apple Computer 30th birthday.


Tonight I went to the Digi Barn, which I also videoed.  Bruce is
a nice guy, lots of stories.

Evan did talk on "computing for newbies" that went well.

My head is going to explode.


Bill (in the San Fran airport waiting for my wife to join me for
a week in Yosemite.)


  At Sunday, 5 November 2006, you wrote:

>Someone emailed me a few days ago looking for an up-close photo
of something
>specific here at the VCF.  I don't remember who or what.  So email me
>back or call me ASAP!  6465469999.
>
>-Evan
>
>Sent from the Treo 700p of Evan Koblentz ... Evan@...
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



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>
> Evan did talk on "computing for newbies" that went well.
>

Errr, that was "vintage" computing for newbies ....   :)

I'm going to sleep soon because I have an early flight tomorrow.  But a
few quick notes about the show:

- The Apple 30th birthday party was awesome.  Woz, Daniel Kottke, Randy
Wigginton, Chris Espinosa, Andy Hertzfeld, and Captain Crunch were all
there.

- Woz sounded genuinely interested in our VCF East show.  Asked me to keep
in touch with info about the dates and stuff.  BTW, he has the coolest
business card ever.  It's metal and has engraved patterns.  I might check
it into my luggage instead of keeping it in my wallet -- wouldn't want the
airport security people to take it away!!!

- Digibarn's Bruce Damer asked the whole audience for suggestions about a
30th anniversary for 2007.  Which got me thinking: why don't we do that at
East, too?  And which noteworthy computer company was based in our
territory that launched in 1977...?  COMMODORE!!!  So I talked to a few
Commodore people here at VCF and they loved the idea.  We'll invite a
bunch of early Commodore people and throw a 30th birthday party.  It's
said that Jack T. does not really care anymore about history, akin to Jobs
@ Apple, but that Chuck Peddle is cool with this stuff, akin to Woz.  I'll
contact Brian Bagnall who wrote the Commodore book last year; he's in good
with Peddle.

- I spoke again with Hans Franke, who runs VCF Europa (in Munich).  We're
still considering the logistics of having (at a minimum) IRC terminals so
the VCF East and VCF Europa attendees can chat.  We're also considering
(ideally) doing a full videocast of the keynotes, roaming exhibit video,
etc.

- Vince Briel and Jack Rubin were here, both of whom exhibited at East
3.0, and they spread the good word about our show.  That's a lot more
compelling to regular people than hearing it from Sellam, me, or Bill.

- Bill had the idea that at next year's Trenton show, MARCH can sell a few
ready-to-go vintage computer systems as a fundraiser.  I think maybe we
can do it as a silent auction, but either way, it's a good concept.  We
have to run it by the TCF people since they give us free booth space with
the understanding that we're a non-profit and not selling stuff.  We could
just buy a booth, but that could defeat the income we get from it.

- I spoke with my friend Liza Loop, who owns the Apple 1 serial #1 (she
got it directly from Woz when it was new.)  She's really into computers in
education and she might build a traveling exhibit.  She's quite a pro at
this, so that would make a great museum exhibit and the InfoAge people
would love the education focus.  (No, she won't send us the #1 Apple 1
board.)

- My exhibit won an award for "Best Technology: Non-Electronic" (I showed
pre-industrial computing devices) .... there was only one other exhibit in
this category (Babbage machine replica) .... but that guy wasn't entered
in the judging ... so I had the "best" of one entrant.  ;)

- Bought myself an expansion module for my Sharp PC-5000, and bought an
Epson HX-20 with its expansion module, case, and manual (my existing HX-20
doesn't work.)  Bill bought some kind of drive.

- In addition to Woz, I had a nice conversation with Lee Felsenstein about
the Osborne computer.  Lee was there to talk about the SOL 20 (which he
designed) but he was happy to answer my Osborne questions as well (he
designed that, too.)  Cool!  Meanwhile, Bill and I both had a nice chat
with Steve "Slug" Russell, who co-wrote Spacewar on the PDP-1 at MIT in
the 1960s.

- I had dinner tonight with Michael Holley.  Michael isn't really famous
for anything, but he attended the Homebrew club meetings in the
mid-to-late 1970s, and was there when all of the landmark products were
introduced.  For example he was there when Woz first spoke up to show a
home-designed TVT --- the Apple 1.  Michael's a really friendly guy and he
might bring a SWTPC exhibit to our show.  Emphasis on "might"...

...Probably forgot to mention a few things, but I'm exhausted now and off
to hunt the elusive wild ZZZ.

Remember, the next MARCH - InfoAge workday is this Saturday, Nov. 11.

- Evan

>
> I'm going to sleep soon because I have an early flight tomorrow.  But a
> few quick notes about the show:

Forgot to mention: Bill and I visited Erik Klein's house.  Erik, for those
who don't know, runs the forums at www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum ....
he has a very impressive personal collection.  He even donated something
to MARCH -- several (copies) of the first year of "Computer Notes".  Very
fun reading material!

> - Woz sounded genuinely interested in our VCF East show.  Asked me
to keep
> in touch with info about the dates and stuff.  BTW, he has the
coolest
> business card ever.  It's metal and has engraved patterns.  I might
check
> it into my luggage instead of keeping it in my wallet -- wouldn't
want the
> airport security people to take it away!!!

That's pretty cool. It sounds like the card Woz was showing off on his
Colbert Report interview. I guess he can't get away with using it on
flights anymore now that he's bragged about it on tv. :)

Liam

I haven't seen the interview but you are the third person this week to mention
it ... will look for it online this week.  Hey, anyone have a link?

-----Original Message-----
From: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com [mailto:midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of B. Degnan
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:20 PM
To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [midatlanticretro] Amiga 3000..plus I am giving away a Fargo Primera Pro printer

On the edge of what many consider "vintage", but cool none-the-less. I
have picked up a free Amiga 3000 with Commdore Multisynch model 1950
monitor. The computer does not work, but I have not spent much time yet to
restore. It worked before being put into storage.

I also got a Fargo Primera Pro will lots of spare cartridges. This printer
was capable of doing wax paper printing and I have what I believe to be 3
boxes of the supplies. Anyone want the printer?

I am off to the VCF this morning at about 5AM. Take it easy. I will bring
a video camera.

Bill D

I had it here: http://www.macmothership.com/nucleus/index.php?
query=colbert&amount=0&blogid=1

The YouTube link now says that it was removed due to copyright violation.

Jim


--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, "Evan" <evan@...> wrote:
>
> I haven't seen the interview but you are the third person this week to mention
it ... will look
for it online this week.  Hey, anyone have a link?
>

Found it - fixed the link.

http://www.macmothership.com/nucleus/index.php?itemid=126

or directly here:

http://colbertondemand.com/videos/The_Colbert_Report/Colbert_Interviews_Steve_Wo\
zniak

Jim

Here is a picture of *the* card:

http://www.luckow.com/clients/woz/images/WOZMetalProof.jpg (more info
here: http://www.luckow.com/clients/woz/colbert.html )

and one of Woz's business cards goes for $560, yes $560 on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200033851208

Cheers,

Bryan

Yeah but on the one he gave me, the numbers and home address aren't blotted out.
:)

FYI It's a business card that looks like a PCBboard.
bd


At Monday, 06 November 2006, you wrote:

>> - Woz sounded genuinely interested in our VCF East show.  Asked me
>to keep
>> in touch with info about the dates and stuff.  BTW, he has the
>coolest
>> business card ever.  It's metal and has engraved patterns.  I might
>check
>> it into my luggage instead of keeping it in my wallet -- wouldn't
>want the
>> airport security people to take it away!!!
>
>That's pretty cool. It sounds like the card Woz was showing off on his
>Colbert Report interview. I guess he can't get away with using it on
>flights anymore now that he's bragged about it on tv. :)
>
>Liam
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



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Please reply if you can make it.  LOL, on the last two work days we intended
to paint, but instead we cleaned / organized / rescued / did miscellaneous
other museum tasks.  This time I hope that we can actually paint (as well as
admire the recent rescues and do some more organizing.)

Usual starting time: 10AM.
Usual ending time: early evening.

- Evan

I will try to be there in the morning.

Nick Lordi

--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, "Evan Koblentz" <evan@...>
wrote:
>
> Please reply if you can make it.  LOL, on the last two work days
we intended
> to paint, but instead we cleaned / organized / rescued / did
miscellaneous
> other museum tasks.  This time I hope that we can actually paint
(as well as
> admire the recent rescues and do some more organizing.)
>
> Usual starting time: 10AM.
> Usual ending time: early evening.
>
> - Evan
>

Evan Koblentz wrote:
> Please reply if you can make it.  LOL, on the last two work days we intended
> to paint, but instead we cleaned / organized / rescued / did miscellaneous
> other museum tasks.  This time I hope that we can actually paint (as well as
> admire the recent rescues and do some more organizing.)
>
> Usual starting time: 10AM.
> Usual ending time: early evening.
>
> - Evan

I plan to be there at least until the afternoon.  Do you need us to bring
anything?  Like tools?

Mark

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Investigation, 1938

I too intend to be there. Sridhar, do you want to go too? I'll leave Wantage
around 8:30. Should put me there around 10:30.

	 -----Original Message-----
	 From: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Evan Koblentz
	 Sent: Wed 11/8/2006 5:42 AM
	 To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
	 Cc:
	 Subject: [midatlanticretro] So? Work day this Saturday?



	 Please reply if you can make it. LOL, on the last two work days we intended
	 to paint, but instead we cleaned / organized / rescued / did miscellaneous
	 other museum tasks. This time I hope that we can actually paint (as well as
	 admire the recent rescues and do some more organizing.)

	 Usual starting time: 10AM.
	 Usual ending time: early evening.

	 - Evan

Kelly Leavitt wrote:
> I too intend to be there. Sridhar, do you want to go too? I'll leave Wantage
around 8:30. Should put me there around 10:30.

Nope.  I can't go.  It's my birthday.

Peace...  Sridhar

Toot, toooooot!

-----Original Message-----
From: Sridhar Ayengar [mailto:ploopster@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 5:43 PM
To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] So? Work day this Saturday?

Kelly Leavitt wrote:
> I too intend to be there. Sridhar, do you want to go too? I'll leave
Wantage around 8:30. Should put me there around 10:30.

Nope.  I can't go.  It's my birthday.

Peace...  Sridhar



Yahoo! Groups Links

Holy Heathkit!  I guess it takes some rival VCF action to get you people
motivated. :)   We could have a half-dozen people this Saturday.

From now on I'll start making up reports from fictional shows.  Yeah, that
should work....

-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Koblentz [mailto:evan@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 5:42 AM
To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [midatlanticretro] So? Work day this Saturday?

Please reply if you can make it.  LOL, on the last two work days we intended
to paint, but instead we cleaned / organized / rescued / did miscellaneous
other museum tasks.  This time I hope that we can actually paint (as well as
admire the recent rescues and do some more organizing.)

Usual starting time: 10AM.
Usual ending time: early evening.

- Evan




Yahoo! Groups Links

I don't anticipate needing tools this time, but it could never hurt to have
them just in case .....

-----Original Message-----
From: madodel [mailto:madodel@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 3:41 PM
To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] So? Work day this Saturday?

Evan Koblentz wrote:
> Please reply if you can make it.  LOL, on the last two work days we
> intended to paint, but instead we cleaned / organized / rescued / did
> miscellaneous other museum tasks.  This time I hope that we can
> actually paint (as well as admire the recent rescues and do some more
> organizing.)
>
> Usual starting time: 10AM.
> Usual ending time: early evening.
>
> - Evan

I plan to be there at least until the afternoon.  Do you need us to bring
anything?  Like tools?

Mark

--

   From the eComStation Desktop of: Mark Dodel

   Warpstock 2006 - Windsor, Ontario, Canada, October 12-15th,
http://www.warpstock.org
   Warpstock Europe - http://www.warpstock.net


For a choice in the future of personal computing, Join VOICE -
http://www.os2voice.org

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growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their
democratic State itself.   That in it's essence, is Fascism - ownership of
government by an individual, by a group or by any controlling private
power." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Message proposing the Monopoly
Investigation, 1938



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