Duane,
It's a 1219-II
Bill

-------- Original Message --------
> From: "DuaneCraps" <duaneb.craps@...>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:12 PM
> To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] MARCH's UNIVAC
>
> All,
>
> I will be going to a meeting tomorrow that they have, off base, for retired 
for people.
>
> I put out the word to gather up and save anything they might still have.
>
> I retired in 2007 so could have had big  a clean up since then.
>
> I would assume that you need Doc's for:
>
> 1219 Computer ( Mk 152 Computer/ C-848)
> 1540 Mag tape (Mk 19 Digital Data Recorder / RD-294)
> 1532 Input-Output console ( Mk 77 I/O Console)
>         KSR 35 Teletype
>         Teletype BRPE Punch
>         Digitronics 2500 Paper tape reader
>
> Motor-Generator (ships used a KATO 2.5 KW) not sure if shore installations had
same.
>
> Does sound like what you have?
>
> On the 16 channel computers the lower right hand drawer was empty. some times
the techs would keep the pubs there. Worth a look.
>
> Hope to have more for you next week
>
> Duane Craps
>
> From: ekoblentz
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 12:00 PM
> To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [midatlanticretro] MARCH's UNIVAC
>
>
> >>> WOW, you have a 1219B (Mk. 152) Computer.
>
> Yup! Ours came from the Johns Hopkins U. Applied Physics Laboratory.
>
> >>> I worked on those for years at Norfolk Naval Shipyard. If you ever want to
light it off I would be willing to offer what distance support that I could.
>
> Thank you. Someday ....
>
> >>> Power would be the hard part. You would need A 400 Hz. motor-generator.
>
> We have one! JHU included it.
>
> >>> Do you have any Documentation? I still had some manuals before I retired.
Maybe they haven't been thrown away yet.
>
> We have some, and there is some on Bitsavers.org, however we'd love to get as
much of the original printed documentation as possible. We'd greatly appreciate
it if you could look through your stuff. (Unfortunately we don't have any
software.)
>
> Our UNIVAC includes two CPU racks, two tape drives, two peripheral racks (I
forget which ones), four paper tape consoles, and four teletypes (I think
they're Model 25). We don't have the line printer.
>
> >>> Duane
>
> Welcome to the group, Duane. How did you find us? We always appreciate it when
new members introduce themselves.

I have a bootstrap procedure with octoal code listing, and the Reportoire
of Instructions for the 1219/MK 152.  This may be adaptable for the
1219-II, but the memory location may be different.  Quite a project.
bd

There's a Spare Time Gizmos SBC 6120 pdp 8e reproduction/emulator on
Ebay..works.
Bill

Yes same footprint, but we have the 1219-II.   I assume the newer model is
more or less a compatible upgrade.
Bill

-------- Original Message --------
> From: "DuaneCraps" <duaneb.craps@...>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 5:54 PM
> To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] UNIVAC 1219 bootstrap
>
> From: B. Degnan
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 5:11 PM
> To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [midatlanticretro] UNIVAC 1219 bootstrap
> Not familiar with a 1219 II. The 1219B was the military version of the
univac 418-II
>
> Does what you have look like this?
>
> The shipboard fire control program was developed at JHU APL so I sure
what they had would be compatible.
>
> DBC
>
>
>
> I have a bootstrap procedure with octoal code listing, and the Reportoire

> of Instructions for the 1219/MK 152. This may be adaptable for the
> 1219-II, but the memory location may be different. Quite a project.
> bd

>> Does what you have look like this?

Been a while since I was deep enough into our warehouse to get a good look.
Generally speaking, yes, I recall that's what we have (x2), plus the other
racks, I/O, etc.

>> The shipboard fire control program was developed at JHU APL so I sure what
they had would be compatible.

Hmmm ... I wonder if ours was used for development.

--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, "B. Degnan" <billdeg@...> wrote:
> > Actually it was the card(s) that plugged in that were stolen. The unit


The idea of theft disgusts me.  I am a bit shocked to hear that someone would
steal such art, then again, there's been art thieves almost as long as there's
been art.  I just thought there would be more honour amongst vintage
computer/electronics geeks.

Please tell me, does this sort of thing happen regularly?

Cheers,
Josh

>> Please tell me, does this sort of thing happen regularly?

I've never heard of a theft in our hobby (since early '00s when I got into it.)

> I've never heard of a theft in our hobby (since early '00s when I got into
> it.)

I have heard of a few things that disappeared from various collections
(and I will not comment further). I even see theft every year, when
someone needs a discount from my hamfest table, when I am not around.
I have even caught a few red handed.

Anyway, Claude's machine was kept in the house, which did not burn,
but who knows - he was not exact Mr. Organization.

--
Will

On 11/29/2012 05:26 PM, DuaneCraps wrote:
> Not familiar with a 1219 II. The 1219B was the military version of the
> univac 418-II
>
> Does what you have look like this?

   Wow.

   Now I've got some serious blinkenlights around here.  But man, that's
*gorgeous*.

                 -Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

On 11/29/2012 07:45 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote:
> See below (from the InfoAge staff/volunteers list).

> http://j.mp/WxthgR (ATT)

Nice racey picture (Bikini) on one of the computers. I'm surprised AT&T
let that slip.

--
Linux Home Automation         Neil Cherry       ncherry@...
http://www.linuxha.com/                         Main site
http://linuxha.blogspot.com/                    My HA Blog
Author of:     Linux Smart Homes For Dummies

As yet, I have  not seen either the development chassis nor the development
board itself; still looking!

Larry Schear, Executor for the Estate of Claude A. R. Kagan

--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, "B. Degnan" <billdeg@...> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:54:28PM -0500, B. Degnan wrote:
> > > Did anyone ever find Claude's Intel dev system?  He said it was stolen
> from
> > > him.
> > >
> > At the last time I talked to him about it no.
> >
> > >
> http://www.vintagecomputer.net/tcf_2008/intel_MCBS-10_control_module.JPG
> > >
> > > I took this picture in 2008, shortly before it disappeared.
> > >
> > Actually it was the card(s) that plugged in that were stolen. The unit
> in
> > your picture should have still been around.
> >
>
> Now I remember it was the cards that were missing.  I have not seen them
> myself at MARCH, nor the main unit.  Wonder if the MCB8-10 survived the
> fire.
> bd
>

Well at least you have the picture from my site for reference, should you
come across one on Ebay...  Dave reminded me about the fact that it was the
boards that were missing, meaning that he misplaced or whatever before TCF
2008, they could be long gone by now.
bd

-------- Original Message --------
> From: "LarryS" <larry.schear@...>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:35 PM
> To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [midatlanticretro] Re: Claude Kagan's Intel MCB8-10
>
> As yet, I have  not seen either the development chassis nor the
development board itself; still looking!
>
> Larry Schear, Executor for the Estate of Claude A. R. Kagan
>
> --- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, "B. Degnan" <billdeg@...>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:54:28PM -0500, B. Degnan wrote:
> > > > Did anyone ever find Claude's Intel dev system?  He said it was
stolen
> > from
> > > > him.
> > > >
> > > At the last time I talked to him about it no.
> > >
> > > >
> >
http://www.vintagecomputer.net/tcf_2008/intel_MCBS-10_control_module.JPG
> > > >
> > > > I took this picture in 2008, shortly before it disappeared.
> > > >
> > > Actually it was the card(s) that plugged in that were stolen. The
unit
> > in
> > > your picture should have still been around.
> > >
> >
> > Now I remember it was the cards that were missing.  I have not seen
them
> > myself at MARCH, nor the main unit.  Wonder if the MCB8-10 survived the

> > fire.
> > bd
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Did people really do this in the 60s?


http://fredericksburg.craigslist.org/hsh/3412842969.html

> Did people really do this in the 60s?

Yes.

--
Will

On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Christian Liendo wrote:

> Did people really do this in the 60s?
>
>
> http://fredericksburg.craigslist.org/hsh/3412842969.html

     Hell, yes.  I had one.


Mike Loewen 		 mloewen@...
Old Technology       http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/

On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:50 PM, Christian Liendo <christian_liendo@...>
wrote:
> Did people really do this in the 60s?
>
>
> http://fredericksburg.craigslist.org/hsh/3412842969.html

   Are you kidding??  People did that into the *80s*, man.  My grandmother
brought one home from work every year well into my high school years.

              -Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, Neil Cherry <ncherry@...> wrote:
>
> On 11/29/2012 07:45 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote:
> > See below (from the InfoAge staff/volunteers list).
>
> > http://j.mp/WxthgR (ATT)
>
> Nice racey picture (Bikini) on one of the computers. I'm surprised AT&T
> let that slip.
>
> --
> Linux Home Automation         Neil Cherry       ncherry@...
> http://www.linuxha.com/                         Main site
> http://linuxha.blogspot.com/                    My HA Blog
> Author of:     Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
>

I may not recognize all the equipment, but I believe the classic
retro bikini parts belong to Raquel Welch.

From: Evan Koblentz
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 9:03 AM

>Hi everyone. I hope you all had a great Thanksgiving. Please remember that
>our awesome club holiday party is just two weeks away!!!! It's from
>Saturday, Dec. 8, around lunchtime, until Sunday, Dec. 9, whenever people
>leave.

>MARCH will supply BBQ basics and non-alcoholic beverages. Everyone's
>encouraged to bring something -- food, beer, entertainment, tech, etc.

What exactly are included in those "basics" ? plates ? nakins ? ketchup ?
which non-alcoholic beverages ? I was thinking about bringing a case of
water and some coke zero. maybe some yuengling lager lite and maybe a bottle
of whiskey.

Ian Primus, are you bringing your video games and tvs ?

Corey, are you bringing your tv ?

I'm wondering who is bringing what entertainment system.

Also is the room ready for us to use (i.e. does it need cleaning or cleaning
out of junk ) ? How many tables will we need etc. ?

>$10 "required donation" that we'll give to InfoAge for hosting us.

>Please start posting * in this thread * about what you'll bring.

Perhaps you should make a list of what is needed, so that others can tell us
what they will bring ? Last year I made a list of what people can bring and
are bringing on google docs. Like so:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aot1Lys9TBOPdG4yczNPNFR1Z2hDT3pmWVd\
la1BqZ1E#gid=0

Jeff Brace

>> It is very difficult to find specific information about this keyboard and
it’s material and repair.

I'm impressed with your dedication to this project! Make sure that store is open
Sunday before your schlep there.

If the effort vs. results becomes too much, you could consider swapping a
keyboard from one of our other PETs.

Christian Liendo wrote:
> Did people really do this in the 60s?
>
>
> http://fredericksburg.craigslist.org/hsh/3412842969.html

Yes.  In my family we had a Santa Claus made from folded
punch cards.  Unlike that wreath, the cards were used
(punched).  The punch holes gave a more lacey effect.  It
was about 18 inches tall.  I think my grandmother made it.
It was the holiday centerpiece at our house for a number
of years.  It was damaged in a move and discarded before
I got into computers as a young teenager. I wish I had it
now.

Bill S.

Hellooooooooo MARCH .... oddly quiet this year about the party ... we really
need to know how many people are going, with just 8 days until party time.

1. Me (Sat. only)
2. Jeff B.

Beuller? Beuller?

Anyone who doesn't respond should not complain about our lack of preparation /
supplies. :)

>> What exactly are included in those "basics" ? plates ? nakins ? ketchup ?
which non-alcoholic beverages ?

I'll let Justin answer.

I visited Claude several years ago specifically to copy the ROMs in the MCB8
system (it's actually pictured in his Reckoner article) and there were no boards
in it then. At that time he said that he had lent the boards to someone. Maybe
when they never came back, he called them stolen. Maybe he just forgot ...

Will, this was the time frame when I was working with RCSRI and the weasel to
try to find a home for the Burroughs. Might have even been pre-MARCH timeframe?

Jack

--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, William Donzelli <wdonzelli@...> wrote:
>
> > I've never heard of a theft in our hobby (since early '00s when I got into
> > it.)
>
> I have heard of a few things that disappeared from various collections
> (and I will not comment further). I even see theft every year, when
> someone needs a discount from my hamfest table, when I am not around.
> I have even caught a few red handed.
>
> Anyway, Claude's machine was kept in the house, which did not burn,
> but who knows - he was not exact Mr. Organization.
>
> --
> Will
>

We have more than one chicklet keyboard at MARCH?  There have been a few threads
and documents on the web, cctalk and vintage-computer.com in particular, that
detail how to restore a chicklet keyboard.  I personally have not done this work
before but maybe I have something in my stuff about it.
Bill
--
Sent from my PDP 8/e.

>> Might have even been pre-MARCH timeframe?

MARCH formed from summer '04 through spring '05.

> Will, this was the time frame when I was working with RCSRI and the weasel
> to try to find a home for the Burroughs. Might have even been pre-MARCH
> timeframe?

If I look through my email, I could probably get an early date benchmark.

My guess is also that it is 2007 or 2008. Long gone by now.

--
Will