Mostly duplicated TRS-80, early apple, macintosh and PC (386 and earlier) stuff.

I just have too much to work with. No reasonable offer refused. Come and load
you car. All stuff located in Wantage, NJ. I WILL NOT SHIP.

Replies and questions off list please.

Some items I'm parting with:
GBC System (rebadged northstar advantage)
TRS-80 model III
TRS-80 Model III motherboard
Apple II
Apple IIgs
Mac SE (2 I think).
Several XT and 286 clones.
9-track overland data drive with controlling PC.
Non functioning TRS-80 model 2000's
3.5" disk drives (OT for this group, but I have a box full of them)
CD Drives (panasonic and IDE interface)
IDE hard drives (240 meg to 10 gig)
Commodore 128 unknown condition
IBM PS2/50

Any interest?
Kelly

On 11/19/12 2:30 AM, reini1976 wrote:
> I'm hardly searching for old OS/2-Software
>
> I'm searching for MS and IBM OS/2 1.x and the SDK's and DDK's.
> Also the MS Programmer's Library CD-ROM's.
>
> Can someone help me?
>
> With best regards.
>
> reini1976

You don't say where you are.  OS/2 software from the 1.x days has really
gotten pricey.  I have stopped buying stuff on eBay since I won't pay
$100's for stuff that is just to sit on a shelf.  We used to give a lot of
this old stuff away at Warpstock events in the US and Europe, but the
sources have dried up.   Have you tried local computer clubs for anyone
that has this stuff they are looking to get rid off?

Mark


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power." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Message proposing the Monopoly
Investigation, 1938

Hi Gang:

I found this item on Yahoo this morning:

<http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/world-oldest-original-working-digital-comp\
uter-gets-reboot-215128890.html;_ylt=AiQ0ddhmFV8rpEXVHKQY0iqZCMZ_;_ylu=X3oDMTRrZ\
WsyMmplBG1pdANCbG9nIFNwZWFybWludCBPcmlnaW5hbCBMaXN0BHBrZwM1NzQwYWIzOS1lMjdiLTM3N\
WMtODkxMi02YmUwMTAwMzVlYTUEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQkxpc3RNaXhlZExQQ0FUZW1wBHZlcgNkN\
zNjYjA4NC0zNDZiLTExZTItYWZmZi1iYzAzMWFhOTJhM2Q-;_ylg=X3oDMTMzdmxhYmJvBGludGwDdXM\
EbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNzQ5NTA1OWUtZmEwNC0zYzk3LWIxYjItMDFhZjEyMTEwZTRiBHBzdGN\
hdANibG9nc3x0aGVsb29rb3V0BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=3
  >

That's the 531 character URL.  Here's the 26 character:

<http://tinyurl.com/bhqbnv6>

73 de Ray
and... Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Have you had a chance to try the drives?

-------- Original Message --------
> From: "Richard Cini" <rich.cini@...>
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:34 PM
> To: "midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com"
<midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] Lobo floppy drives
>
> Bill --
>
> I spoke to the seller. The drive came from his uncle's estate and the
only
> S100 computers he had were a Compupro System 8/16 or a Para Dynamics
2810.
> Interestingly, he also had a Sage IV, Computer Automation Alpha LSI/20
and
> an Osborne Executive.
>
> His best guess was that the drives were for the Compupro system. No idea
> what controller it may have been because I have a Disk 1 in my IMSAI and
it
> wasn't jumpered in a way that would have worked properly.
>
> Rich
>
> --
> Rich Cini
> Collector of Classic Computers
> Build Master and lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator
> http://www.classiccmp.org/cini
> http://www.classiccmp.org/altair32
>
>
> From:  B Degnan <billdeg@...>
> Reply-To:  "midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com"
> <midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com>
> Date:  Saturday, November 17, 2012 8:52 AM
> To:  "midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com"
<midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject:  Re: [midatlanticretro] Lobo floppy drives
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm hoping it's a trs 80 or maybe an actual LOBO computer.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> > From: "Richard Cini" <rich.cini@...
<mailto:rich.cini%40verizon.net> >
> > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 8:35 AM
> > To: "midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:midatlanticretro%40yahoogroups.com> "
> <midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:midatlanticretro%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] Lobo floppy drives
> >
> > Bill --
> >
> > I emailed the original seller to see if he knows the history of the
> unit.
> > When I hear back I'll let you know.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > --
> > Rich Cini
> > Collector of Classic Computers
> > Build Master and lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator
> > http://www.classiccmp.org/cini
> > http://www.classiccmp.org/altair32
> >
> >
> > From:  B Degnan <billdeg@... <mailto:billdeg%40degnanco.com>
>
> > Reply-To:  "midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:midatlanticretro%40yahoogroups.com> "
> > <midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:midatlanticretro%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > Date:  Friday, November 16, 2012 11:47 PM
> > To:  "midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:midatlanticretro%40yahoogroups.com> "
> <midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:midatlanticretro%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > Subject:  Re: [midatlanticretro] Lobo floppy drives
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting....the S800's in the Intel MDS 720 photoed on my web site
> also
> > have significantly different jumpers drive 0 vs. drive 1.  Maybe
that's
> how
> > it's done, or the boot drive has a lot of differences that the non
boot
> > drive.  I wonder what this drive was used for.
> > bd
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------

Are NEC uPD416D 16kx1 RAM chips of interest to anyone?
... perhaps S-100 board use?

--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, Ray Sills <raysills3@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Gang:
>
> I found this item on Yahoo this morning:
>
>
<http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/world-oldest-original-working-digital-comp\
uter-gets-reboot-215128890.html;_ylt=AiQ0ddhmFV8rpEXVHKQY0iqZCMZ_;_ylu=X3oDMTRrZ\
WsyMmplBG1pdANCbG9nIFNwZWFybWludCBPcmlnaW5hbCBMaXN0BHBrZwM1NzQwYWIzOS1lMjdiLTM3N\
WMtODkxMi02YmUwMTAwMzVlYTUEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQkxpc3RNaXhlZExQQ0FUZW1wBHZlcgNkN\
zNjYjA4NC0zNDZiLTExZTItYWZmZi1iYzAzMWFhOTJhM2Q-;_ylg=X3oDMTMzdmxhYmJvBGludGwDdXM\
EbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNzQ5NTA1OWUtZmEwNC0zYzk3LWIxYjItMDFhZjEyMTEwZTRiBHBzdGN\
hdANibG9nc3x0aGVsb29rb3V0BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=3
>  >
>
> That's the 531 character URL.  Here's the 26 character:
>
> <http://tinyurl.com/bhqbnv6>
>
> 73 de Ray
> and... Happy Thanksgiving to all.
>

*whew* there's no way I could have retyped that long one into
the browser address field. The short one was hard enough.
What's that blue underline mean?
:)

I may be interested in some.  How many do you have?

   These are dynamic RAMs by the way, unless my own RAM is experiencing serious
errors.

               -Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:10 PM, "Douglas" <touchetek@...> wrote:

> Are NEC uPD416D 16kx1 RAM chips of interest to anyone?
> ... perhaps S-100 board use?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I'm sure you all will be bitterly disappointed to hear that
the updates have been postponed till January 2013.
Yes, I clicked through their awful link to their "blog".

I'll be interested in hearing if you guys think their claim of oldest is true.
I did enjoy the video, love seeing old pixie tubes in action.
It would be really cool to do a video tour around the machine
what's in it, any interesting/unusual theory of op, etc.
Ditto goes for other old machines.
Maybe such presentations are available on DVD from somewhere?

>> I'll be interested in hearing if you guys think their claim of oldest is
true.

It's the oldest digital large-scale computer. But there are probably some people
with Simon computers from the 1950s. Those are digital, just not large-scale.

--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, Dave McGuire <Mcguire@...>
wrote:
>
>
>   I may be interested in some.  How many do you have?
>
>   These are dynamic RAMs by the way, unless my own RAM is experiencing
serious errors.
>
>               -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
>

Oh. Right you are.  I was duped by the package type... only had seen
statics in gold ceramic package.
So I have a line on 72 of them, I think for a bargain, used, not NOS.

--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, "Evan Koblentz" <evan@...> wrote:
>
> >> I'll be interested in hearing if you guys think their claim of oldest is
true.
>
> It's the oldest digital large-scale computer. But there are probably some
people with Simon computers from the 1950s. Those are digital, just not
large-scale.
>

I guess the ENIAC is non-function?
Darnit.  Those Brits.

There's an effort afoot to take back the TITLE!

Restore the ENIAC in Philadelphia!

https://sites.google.com/a/opgate.com/eniac/Home/business-plan

Are ya WITH me?  :)

Could this be documentation not available anywhere else?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEC-PDP-11-and-other-DEC-units-BOX-OF-OVER-2-000-microfi\
che-VERY-RARE-W-READER-/130807216192?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=ite\
m1e74b7b840

On 23/11/2012 09:07, Douglas wrote:
>
> There's an effort afoot to take back the TITLE!
>
> Restore the ENIAC in Philadelphia!

I hope this starts a trend in restoring these oldest of machines, and
perhaps a little
   ** FRIENDLY ** (please) rivalry.

I thought we here in the UK currently have it with Colossus and the
Witch ?, also the slightly more recent Elliott 803, all in running
condition at Bletchly Park.

> https://sites.google.com/a/opgate.com/eniac/Home/business-plan
>
> Are ya WITH me? :)
If it helps get the old stuff running  - yes -  even if on the wrong
side of the pond !, all power to you, best of luck.

Mike.
www.pdp-7.org


>
>

On 23/11/2012 09:15, Douglas wrote:
> Could this be documentation not available anywhere else?

I doubt if it is, there is lots of PDP-11 documentation about but I've
never seen any mentioned on microfiche.  Can this be saved for MARCH /
InfoAge  ??.

Mike
www.pdp-7.org


>
>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEC-PDP-11-and-other-DEC-units-BOX-OF-OVER-2-000-microfi\
che-VERY-RARE-W-READER-/130807216192?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=ite\
m1e74b7b840
>
>

>> I guess the ENIAC is non-function? ... >> There's an effort afoot to take
back the TITLE! Restore the ENIAC in Philadelphia!

Context is key.  :)  ENIAC isn't in one piece, nor one place ... parts of it are
scattered about the country, and huge fractions of it are simply gone. The plan
you cited involves building a replica of most of it, whereas the Witch is mostly
original. Also, the plan you cited mostly exists "on paper"; there isn't much
actual effort underway.

Here's the good news: the Mauchly/Eckert families and MARCH have a good
relationship. I first met Bill M. (son of ENIAC creator John M.; Bill is the
family's historian, public liaison, and himself a computer engineer) around
2006/2007. I asked for his help with some research and that went well. Then he
spoke at our VCF East show in 2008. After that I helped him with some of his own
research and became close with a group of historians and Mauchly/Eckert family
members who are all passionate about ENIAC.

As such, Bill is very aware of InfoAge, and there's an open invitation for him
to build his replica there as part of our computer museum.

Unfortunately our museum doesn't own any ENIAC artifacts. All we have is a
picture. However we do have some UNIVAC artifacts. We have a UNIVAC 1 technical
manual, several pictures, a board of tubes from an unspecified ERA/Remington
system; and the majority of a UNIVAC 1219 computer from 1965.

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:59:55AM +0000, Mike Hatch wrote:
> On 23/11/2012 09:15, Douglas wrote:
> > Could this be documentation not available anywhere else?
>
> I doubt if it is, there is lots of PDP-11 documentation about but I've
> never seen any mentioned on microfiche.  Can this be saved for MARCH /
> InfoAge  ??.
>
> Mike
> www.pdp-7.org
>
DEC released most/all? their documentation that was still current on fiche.
I have some PDP-8 and module fiche and left at least the auction amount of 11
fiche for the 11 collectors many years ago. I'm not sure exactly when DEC
started releasing stuff on fiche. My fiche have some VT78 docs so they are at
least 1978. I found that some KL10 fiche were also in the portion I took.

David Gesswein <djg@...> writes:

>DEC released most/all? their documentation that was still current on
>fiche. I have some PDP-8 and module fiche and left at least the auction
>amount of 11 fiche for the 11 collectors many years ago. I'm not sure
>exactly when DEC started releasing stuff on fiche. My fiche have some
>VT78 docs so they are at least 1978. I found that some KL10 fiche were
>also in the portion I took.

True.  Before the advent of CD, fiche was king.  Hardware maintenance and
FRU documentation, diagnostics, and source listings were made available on
on microfiche.  I still have bundles of VMS source listings fiche; albeit,
I have no way to view it.  Everything that used to be available on fiche
was quickly made available on CD when CDs came into being.  It was simply
easier and cheaper to produce CDs.  VMS V5.0 listings was, for example, a
single CD whereas, before CDs, it was a bundle of fiche about 4"-5" thick!

--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker    VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM

    "And though it seems they smile with glee, I know in truth they envy me
        and watch as my befuddled brain, shines on brightly quite insane"

Simon...none were actually produced I thought.
--
Sent from my PDP 8/e.

Douglas <touchetek@...> wrote:

>
>
>--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, "Evan Koblentz" <evan@...>
>wrote:
>>
>> >> I'll be interested in hearing if you guys think their claim of
>oldest is true.
>>
>> It's the oldest digital large-scale computer. But there are probably
>some people with Simon computers from the 1950s. Those are digital,
>just not large-scale.
>>
>
>I guess the ENIAC is non-function?
>Darnit.  Those Brits.
>
>
>

Functioning computers.
B


--
Sent from my PDP 8/e.

>> Simon...none were actually produced I thought.

Why do you think that?

(I don't mean the abstract Simon from the "Giant Brains" book, I mean the
digital logic trainer, a la DigiComp, etc.

Hi everyone. I hope you all had a great Thanksgiving. Please remember that our
awesome club holiday party is just two weeks away!!!! It's from Saturday, Dec.
8, around lunchtime, until Sunday, Dec. 9, whenever people leave.

MARCh will supply BBQ basics and non-alcoholic beverages. Everyone's encouraged
to bring something -- food, beer, entertainment, tech, etc.

$10 "required donation" that we'll give to InfoAge for hosting us.

Please start posting * in this thread * about what you'll bring.

"Evan Koblentz" <evan@...> writes:

>Hi everyone. I hope you all had a great Thanksgiving. Please remember
>that our awesome club holiday party is just two weeks away!!!! It's
>from Saturday, Dec. 8, around lunchtime, until Sunday, Dec. 9,
>whenever people leave.
>
>MARCh will supply BBQ basics and non-alcoholic beverages. Everyone's
>encouraged to bring something -- food, beer, entertainment, tech, etc.
>
>$10 "required donation" that we'll give to InfoAge for hosting us.
>
>Please start posting * in this thread * about what you'll bring.

$10.00

--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker    VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM

    "And though it seems they smile with glee, I know in truth they envy me
        and watch as my befuddled brain, shines on brightly quite insane"

Wrong thread.  But what trainers, from 40s to 1950, were produced.
--
Sent from my PDP 8/e.

Alise and I stopped at the museum today. We delivered some boxes that were
accumulating (get it ... "accumulating" ...?) at my apartment. We also built yet
another shelving unit. This one holds terminals. Jeff B. is holding down the
fort this Sunday.

On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Evan Koblentz wrote:

> Alise and I stopped at the museum today. We delivered some boxes that
> were accumulating (get it ... "accumulating" ...?) at my apartment. We
> also built yet another shelving unit.

     Did you put them on the "stack"?


Mike Loewen 		 mloewen@...
Old Technology       http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/

Several of us are meeting for drinks in midtown NYC tomorrow night. 7pm, Mustang
Sally's, 324 7th Ave., ostensibly to celebrate Dan "Ragooman" Roganti's 50th
birthday. All are welcome.

Three of us are taking a single car from my apartment in Springfield NJ. We'll
save $$$ that way. Room for two more people.