Also, the Akai S-612 sampler used that type disk to hold audio
samples.  They called it a "QuickDisk".  IIRC, it holds 64K, and uses
a single spiral track.  It's designed to be two-sided, and no
modifications are needed to the disk (as was done with 5.25" floppies
with a notcher, to make them two-sided).

73 de Ray

On Oct 30, 2011, at 5:29 PM, M. Edward Wilborne, III wrote:

>
>
> The Roland S-10, and MKS-100 samplers use these size disks.  I have
> a bunch of them.
>
> Unfortunately, the belt (more like circular rubber band) on my 2.8
> disk drive in my sampler broke, turned to goo, and gummed up the
> drive, making it difficult to fix.
>
> Ed
>
> On 10/30/2011 5:27 PM, Jeff Jonas wrote:
>>
>> I hope nobody's using them, but my local stationer still sells:
>>
>> http://www.fileformat.info/media/2.8-floppy/
>> 2.8 inch Floppy Disk
>> Also known as: Smith-Corona DataDisk 2.8, Data Disk 2.8
>>
>>
>
>
>

no I have not gotten your messages, but I will white list your account.
Can you resend the exact message as it was to billdeg@... so I can see
what triggered the rejection?

Bill Degnan

-------- Original Message --------
> From: "David" <dgreelish@...>
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 2:30 PM
> To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [midatlanticretro] Bill Degnan
>
> Sorry to email the group.
>
> Bill,
>
> Any email I send you from either my classiccomputing.com or mac.com email
gets this:
>
> << Could not deliver message to the following recipient(s):
>
> Failed Recipient: billdeg@...
> Reason: Recipient spam or content filter rejected the message >>
>
> Have you received any email from me in recent days?
>
> Best,
>
> David Greelish, Computer Historian
> President, Atlanta Historical Computing Society
>
> Classic Computing
> The Home of Computer History Nostalgia
> http://www.classiccomputing.com
>
> Classic Computing Blog
> Classic Computing Show video podcast
> "Stan Veit's History of the Personal Computer" audiobook podcast
> Retro Computing Roundtable podcast
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

The Roland S-10, and MKS-100 samplers use these size disks.  I have a bunch of them.

Unfortunately, the belt (more like circular rubber band) on my 2.8 disk drive in my sampler broke, turned to goo, and gummed up the drive, making it difficult to fix.

Ed

If your looking for a ethernet switch I think I have a brand new 24 port switch.
I'll try to drag it over next time I'm there.
Evan W

--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, "Evan Koblentz" <evan@...> wrote:
>
> InfoAge has some empty racks here and there. I don't know the details But
there is no room to put one in our current exhibit rooms.
>

I think I have a LARGE looseleaf  book, probably 40 yrs old, of
IBM scientific subroutine package  written in FORTRAN.  MARCH can have it for
their library.
Evan W

--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, system@... wrote:
>
> "Jeff Jonas" <jeff_s_jonas@...> writes:
>
> >Rolf Levenbach donated some wonderful things to MARCH. I was reading
> >about = the Bellmac 8 CPU and will soon post a web page about the
> >interesting archi= tectural gems in that chip that other processors
> >re-discovered years later,=  such as register windowing.
> >
> >I'll soon forward the 1975 book "Programming Languages: Design and
> >Implemen= tation" by Terrence W. Pratt to the MARCH library. It is SO
> >70s: discusses = FORTRAN, ALGOL 60, COBOL, PL/I, LISP 1.5, SNOBOL 4, APL
> >
> >Who'd imagine that ALL those languages would become obsolete?
>
> Obsolete?
>
> I still come across sites using Fortran; especially, those doing scientific
> research because of the powerful intrinsic mathematical functions available
> in Fortran.  Fortran 90, IIRC, added modern features like POINTER and the
> ALLOCATABLE types.  I did, however, have both of these available to me in
> Fortran-77 when I consulted on a project for the US Navy in the early '80s
> with DEC Fortran.
>
> PL/I and, moreso, COBOL are still quite popular in the financial/business
> realm.  In fact, I have my hands in a huge installation, soon to go live,
> for a major "transportation" product's logistics.  It has all been written
> in COBOL save for some pieces of "glue" requiring O/S interfacing (I wrote)
> to provide user authentication, impersonation, security and several other
> things that COBOL app coders simply don't comprehend.
>

> I think I have a LARGE looseleaf  book, probably 40 yrs old, of IBM scientific
subroutine package  written in FORTRAN.  MARCH can have it for their library.
> Evan W

Very nice!

PS, if possible, could you make your emails appear with your first and
last name? Just seeing "Evan" may confuse (or scare off! just
kidding...) some people, as I'm the most frequent poster here.

So he’s going to pay for my data plan

From: Evan Koblentz
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:52 PM
To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] OT: Which kind of smart phone to get

>>So he’s going to pay for my data plan

>Where was I when that part of the conversation happened in your mind?

You were sitting right across from me drinking your ketchup ;)

>>> So he’s going to pay for my data plan
>> Where was I when that part of the conversation happened in your mind?
> You were sitting right across from me drinking your ketchup ;)

Apparently you misunderstood in real life when someone said, "Get DSL"
and you heard, "Get LSD."

Now that Base of Terror is over. The next time I am at Infoage I will start
getting the Telecom building ready and cleaned up for our party. Maybe Nov.
13.

I started a google docs spreadsheet for what everyone is bringing.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aot1Lys9TBOPdG4yczNPNFR1Z2hDT3pmWVd\
la1BqZ1E
(small URL: http://urql.com/gvzv) I figured this is a great way to get
organized.

Also another google spreadsheet for what items people will be brining:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aot1Lys9TBOPdGsxaDlkeW44WE1ldzhUYU9\
PVG14aFE
(small URL: http://urql.com/hgdv)

We won't be using a charcoal grill this time, but will use a propane one. It
will allow for fast startup at any time during the party.

I'd like to get as much set up as possible by the end of November because I
won't be able to do anything the weekend before the party. So I hope
everyone will let me know if there is anything they need set up ahead of
time.

>>> The next time I am at Infoage I will start getting the Telecom building
ready and cleaned up for our party.

Check with Fred first. There may be other events in that space before ours.

"Jeffrey Brace" <ark72axow@...> writes:

>So I was having a conversation with Evan Koblentz and he noticed my
>Verizon=  Razzle phone
>(http://cnettv.cnet.com/verizon-razzle/9742-1_53-50078025.htm= l a
>feature phone). He said, =E2=80=9CWhen are you going to get rid of that=
> toy phone and get a *real* phone (i.e. A smart phone)=E2=80=9D. I said,
>= =E2=80=9CAre you going to pay for my data plan ? He said,
>=E2=80=9CYes, any= thing to get rid of that silly phone ! I=E2=80=99m
>embarrassed to be seen i= n front my nerd friends with someone with such
>a wimpy phone=E2=80=9D.=20
>
>So he=E2=80=99s going to pay for my data plan and I have find a phone.
>What=  a nice guy !  I have Verizon now, so when my plan renews in
>February I wil= l be shopping around.=20
>
>Wislist:
>1) More message memory (I=E2=80=99m tired of my phone telling
>me to delete = messages all the time)
>2) A decent camera

ROTFLMFAO!!!  TANSTAADMPC! (There ain't no such thing as a decent mobile
phone camera!)



>3) E-mail capability
>4) Web Browsing capability.
>5) Video capability would be nice.
>
>There seems to be different ideas on what is best. iPhone, Android,
>Blackbe= rry.=20
>
>Anyone have any thoughts on the best way to decide ?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Qualcomm_QCP-2700_phone.png

It has all a "phone" needs.  A keyboard for dialing, a microphone and an
earspeaker. ;)

Evan Koblentz <evan@...> writes:

>--gSknQ-cVuckj7DmDTkbYztz1dODJ4OQGMtcDzLU Content-Type: text/plain;
>charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
>
>>>> So heb

IPhone4S camera is very nice for average users.

"Evan Koblentz" <evan@...> writes:

>IPhone4S camera is very nice for average users.

http://falklumo.blogspot.com/2010/06/apple-iphone-4-camera-specs.html

"So, the lens is a 3.85 mm f/2.8 lens.
This corresponds to 35mm film camera equivalent lens of 29.4mm f/21.4."

iPhone 4 main camera:

     * 5.0 Mpixels (2592 x 1936)
     * 1/3.2" back-illuminated CMOS sensor
     * 4:3 aspect ratio
     * 35 mm film camera crop factor: 7.64
     * Low ISO 80 (or better)
     * 3.85 mm lens focal length
     * f/2.8 lens aperture
     * Autofocus: tap to focus

Equivalent 35mm film camera and lens:

     * 30 mm f/22

f/22!!! Gack!  I hope it's one hell of a bright sunny day when you use it!

A 5x 'digital' zoom at full zoom leaves you with an equivalent of 520x380
resolution.  That's akin to YouTube Flash video "quality."

OK, as a part-time professional photographer, I'd not want to use it but I
suppose to snap a sexting shot from under a restroom stall wall it'd be OK.

Yah, he said he'd pay my plan too.  Thanks Evan,

I like my DROID2 - it has a keyboard which is useful for people who use a lot of
quotation marks, etc related to code, etc.


Bill Degnan

-------- Original Message --------
> From: "Evan Koblentz" <evan@...>
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:53 PM
> To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] OT: Which kind of smart phone to get
>
> > So he's going to pay for my data plan
>
> Where was I when that part of the conversation happened in your mind?

Evan Koblentz <evan@...> writes:

>I was contacted today about another garage rescue in central NJ. Someone
>is prepared to give us a variety of DEC, Data General, and Wang
>equipment. I'm not sure what the DEC items include, but the DG items
>include two Novas as part of Kurzweil OCR systems, and the Wang items
>include a VS5000 minicomputer. This rescue first came up two years ago,
>then there were some delays, and contact was recently reestablished. The
>equipment was all used by a data conversion company. Now the owner is
>retiring to a farm.
>
>More to come on this opportunity in a couple of weeks. We'll probably
>have to rent a small truck.

Whereabouts in Central Jersey?

On 10/31/2011 10:07 AM, B. Degnan wrote:
> Yah, he said he'd pay my plan too.  Thanks Evan,

    Hey can I get in on this deal? ;)

> I like my DROID2 - it has a keyboard which is useful for people who use a lot
of quotation marks, etc related to code, etc.

    Oh wow, that's definitely handy!

           -Dave

--
Dave McGuire
New Kensington, PA

Wish I had the room for it...

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/ele/2674504238.html

>>> Whereabouts in Central Jersey?

It's either Somerset or Somerville. I forget which.

>>> Does the club have a Model 1?

Yes, several.

>>> Whereabouts in Central Jersey?
>> It's either Somerset or Somerville. I forget which.
Either one is pretty close for me. I'll try to help, even if it is just
schlepping boxes.

Kelly

From: Dave McGuire
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:50 AM
To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] OT: Which kind of smart phone to get


>>> Yah, he said he'd pay my plan too. Thanks Evan,

>>Hey can I get in on this deal? ;)

Go out to dinner or lunch with Evan and bring a really old cell phone with
you and then he will make you a deal ;)

Ok. So I had the day off, and some free time. Went to the Verizon store. The
sales guy there liked the iPhone. Went to the Staples and the sales girl
like the droid. So I got two very different, but strong opinions about both.
One issue that come up was the battery. You can replace with the droid. With
the iPhone you have to replace the whole phone. The general impression that
I get is that the iPhone is more staple, but less apps. The Droid is less
stable, but more apps. I will do more research and keep asking questions, as
I keep discovering new things that I never considered before. Such as hands
free devices, included or not, compatible with my FM hands free device or
not. But I really have to say that the iPhone 4S feature of voice
recognition (Siri) is really cool ! I will decide by February when my
contract renews.

On 10/31/2011 07:00 PM, Jeffrey Brace wrote:
>>>> Yah, he said he'd pay my plan too. Thanks Evan,
>
>>> Hey can I get in on this deal? ;)
>
> Go out to dinner or lunch with Evan and bring a really old cell phone
> with you and then he will make you a deal ;)

    Fear.

> Ok. So I had the day off, and some free time. Went to the Verizon
> store. The sales guy there liked the iPhone. Went to the Staples and
> the sales girl like the droid. So I got two very different, but
> strong opinions about both. One issue that come up was the battery.
> You can replace with the droid. With the iPhone you have to replace
> the whole phone.

    Untrue; I've replaced many iPhone batteries.  It's just not a "user"
thing.

> The general impression that I get is that the iPhone is more staple,
> but less apps.> The Droid is less stable, but more apps.

    True, and not so true.  (I have both an iPhone and an Android-based
tablet) I've found there are just as many apps in iPhone-land, but they
tend to be of FAR higher quality overall.

    Many Android users (including myself when using my tablet) experience
occasional "FCs" ("Force Closes"), which is what happens when an app
crashes.  This happens to me several times per week when regularly using
my (otherwise loved) tablet.  In nearly two years of heavy iPhone use,
I've seen it precisely once.

    iOS is a nicer, more stable, faster, more polished OS overall, by a
good margin.  Android is a more open, more accessible, more capable OS
overall, also by a good margin.  It depends on where your priorities are.

> The Droid is less stable, but more apps. I will do more research and
> keep asking questions, as I keep discovering new things that I never
> considered before. Such as hands free devices, included or not,
> compatible with my FM hands free device or not. But I really have to
> say that the iPhone 4S feature of voice recognition (Siri) is really
> cool ! I will decide by February when my contract renews.

    Siri runs on standard iPhone 4 (non-4S) now as well, though not
"officially", FYI.  To me, the best thing that the 4S does is push down
the prices on the 4.

               -Dave

--
Dave McGuire
New Kensington, PA

>>> there are just as many apps in iPhone-land, but they tend to be of FAR
higher quality overall.

...At least the ones that are real apps. I hear that many are little more than
shortcuts to web sites.

Jeff B.: You haven't stated your priorities in a smartphone. That makes all the
difference.

On 10/31/2011 07:33 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote:
>>>> there are just as many apps in iPhone-land, but they tend to be of FAR
higher quality overall.
>
> ...At least the ones that are real apps. I hear that many are little more than
shortcuts to web sites.

    I haven't actually run into any of those.  And actually I don't think
I've ever even heard of them.  Weird.

            -Dave

--
Dave McGuire
New Kensington, PA

From: Evan Koblentz
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 7:33 PM
To: MARCH Yahoo Midatlanticretro
Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] OT: Which kind of smart phone to get

>Jeff B.: You haven't stated your priorities in a smartphone. That makes all
>the difference.

I stated that in my first e-mail:

Wislist:
1) More message memory (I’m tired of my phone telling me to delete messages
all the time)
2) A decent camera
3) E-mail capability
4) Web Browsing capability.
5) Video capability would be nice.


How do I use it now:
I mostly use text messaging. I use the phone to call people, but try to
limit it as it is expensive (I share a plan with two others and there is a
limited amount of minutes available to us all). I receive calls and use my
FM transmitter while driving so that I can drive hands free and control the
volume. I mostly use my phone for work. Text messaging is always
overflowing. The video camera has been very handy to take pictures at
various times, when I forgot the "regular" camera. I'd like to use e-mail
and web so that I can do it from anywhere, not just at the office. I also
have started using the calendar and trying to keep a schedule with reminders
etc. I would like to keep the price down as much as possible.