Bob and Sridhar,



Well, the **IX command line interface is "retro" (as opposed to "vintage")

because that's where it all started. If you use it today, it's not because

you MUST, but because you want to. "User Friendly is what you know." I use

the command shell in Windows XP when it suits my needs, but I don't try to

configure the Windows DHCP server using the command line. It can be done, but

why would I want to when it's so much easier and faster to use the GUI? Of

course on Linux one has no choice but to edit the config files using vi or

the editor dujour.



CompuServe still exists (sort of) but the old ASCII interface to the fora is

gone. Even the Wizop tools are gone. I will probably not need my copy of

TapCIS anytime soon.



Jim



--- Bob Applegate <bob@...> wrote:



> I've got to agree with this.  What's retro about a command line interface?

> I've got

> multiple Xterm sessions open right now at work.  Is that site "vintage"

> because of

> the machines they use?

>

> Bob

>

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: Sridhar Ayengar

>   To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com

>   Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:27 PM

>   Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] Q-Link - oops!

>

>

>   Jim Scheef wrote:

>   > In today's context, this message is a liitle out of the blue. It sat in

>   > "drafts" for a long time. I meant to delete it and clicked the wrong

> button.

>   > Oh well!

>   >

>   > ...I really do miss CompuServe, the best of the old online services,

> and

>   > freeshell.org is a true "vintage experience".

>

>   Why is freeshell.org a vintage experience?  I still use a shell to do

>   most of my work, both at home *and at work*.  I use a shell to make my

>   living.

>

>   Calling it vintage is calling the CLI outdated is calling UNIX outdated.

>

>   Peace...  Sridhar

>

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Bob Applegate wrote:

> I've got to agree with this.  What's retro about a command line

> interface?  I've got

> multiple Xterm sessions open right now at work.  Is that site "vintage"

> because of

> the machines they use?



They use Alphaservers running NetBSD.  Those aren't vintage either.



They do run a good service, though.



Peace...  Sridhar

----- Original Message -----

From: Sridhar Ayengar

To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:27 PM

Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] Q-Link - oops!

Jim Scheef wrote:
> In today's context, this message is a liitle out of the blue. It sat in
> "drafts" for a long time. I meant to delete it and clicked the wrong button.
> Oh well!
>
> ...I really do miss CompuServe, the best of the old online services, and
> freeshell.org is a true "vintage experience".

Why is freeshell.org a vintage experience?  I still use a shell to do
most of my work, both at home *and at work*.  I use a shell to make my
living.

Calling it vintage is calling the CLI outdated is calling UNIX outdated.

Peace...  Sridhar

There's a few old CIS users out here who miss it tonight and new the

end of computing as we know it occurred not with Windows/DOS but with

the AOL buyout of the CIS name.



Here's to MNET11 8-)



--- Jim Scheef <jscheef@...> wrote:



> In today's context, this message is a liitle out of the blue. It sat

> in

> "drafts" for a long time. I meant to delete it and clicked the wrong

> button.

> Oh well!

>

> ...I really do miss CompuServe, the best of the old online services,

> and

> freeshell.org is a true "vintage experience".

>

> Jim

>

> --- Jim Scheef <jscheef@...> wrote:

>

> > Ah, if only someone could resurect the old text-based CompuServe. I

> miss

> > the

> > comraderie of the forums... Using a 2400bps modem... Downloading

> messages

> > using TapCIS... Paying $24/hour to connect...

> >

> > Oh for the good old days!

> >

> > BTW, if you miss a green-screen UNIX system, try

> http://freeshell.org/. A

> > limited but still useful UNIX shell account is free and for $1 you

> get more

> > complete shell account functionality for life.

> >

> > Jim

> >

> > --- billdeg@... wrote:

> >

> > > I have a number of the original Q-Link disks, I wish I could dial

> in

> > > directly, that'd be even better.

> > > Bill

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

Jim Scheef wrote:

> In today's context, this message is a liitle out of the blue. It sat in

> "drafts" for a long time. I meant to delete it and clicked the wrong button.

> Oh well!

>

> ...I really do miss CompuServe, the best of the old online services, and

> freeshell.org is a true "vintage experience".



Why is freeshell.org a vintage experience?  I still use a shell to do

most of my work, both at home *and at work*.  I use a shell to make my

living.



Calling it vintage is calling the CLI outdated is calling UNIX outdated.



Peace...  Sridhar

In today's context, this message is a liitle out of the blue. It sat in

"drafts" for a long time. I meant to delete it and clicked the wrong button.

Oh well!



...I really do miss CompuServe, the best of the old online services, and

freeshell.org is a true "vintage experience".



Jim



--- Jim Scheef <jscheef@...> wrote:



> Ah, if only someone could resurect the old text-based CompuServe. I miss

> the

> comraderie of the forums... Using a 2400bps modem... Downloading messages

> using TapCIS... Paying $24/hour to connect...

>

> Oh for the good old days!

>

> BTW, if you miss a green-screen UNIX system, try http://freeshell.org/. A

> limited but still useful UNIX shell account is free and for $1 you get more

> complete shell account functionality for life.

>

> Jim

>

> --- billdeg@... wrote:

>

> > I have a number of the original Q-Link disks, I wish I could dial in

> > directly, that'd be even better.

> > Bill

> >

>

>

>

Ah, if only someone could resurect the old text-based CompuServe. I miss the

comraderie of the forums... Using a 2400bps modem... Downloading messages

using TapCIS... Paying $24/hour to connect...



Oh for the good old days!



BTW, if you miss a green-screen UNIX system, try http://freeshell.org/. A

limited but still useful UNIX shell account is free and for $1 you get more

complete shell account functionality for life.



Jim



--- billdeg@... wrote:



> I have a number of the original Q-Link disks, I wish I could dial in

> directly, that'd be even better.

> Bill

>

Ah, if only someone could resurect the old text-based CompuServe. I miss the

comraderie of the forums... Using a 2400bps modem... Downloading messages

using TapCIS... Paying $24/hour to connect...



Oh for the good old days!



BTW, if you miss a green-screen UNIX system, try http://freeshell.org/. A

limited but still useful UNIX shell account is free and for $1 you get more

complete shell account functionality for life.



Jim



--- billdeg@... wrote:



> I have a number of the original Q-Link disks, I wish I could dial in

> directly, that'd be even better.

> Bill

>

I have a number of the original Q-Link disks, I wish I could dial in

directly, that'd be even better.

Bill

How about some retro online services?



I just got done trying out the remake of Quantum Link. A Commodore 64

online service that was the predecessor to today's AOL.



http://www.quantum-link.org/



You can use an emulator, or a true C64 with a serial interface to a

modern PC. For those that could afford to use the original Q-Link,

it's all the same. It'll even use the same Q-Link disk image if you

have one. Some of the services aren't implemented yet, but you get

some games, e-mail, and the People Connection chat room.



It's still beta, and growing..... A great trip down memory lane.



They plan to implement Wikipedia as the Q-Link encyclopedia, IRC

connectivity for multi room chat, and RSS for news feeds. All this

would be done at their server but be a transparent function of Q-Link.