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> Phone Number for Tech Weekend Jan 30-31.
>
> Call this number when you arrive for access:
>
> 302 295 2249 (this is the # of the 1st floor IP phone)
>
> 1.  Pull up to 103 W. 7th and park, no meter/money needed.
> 2.  Call
> 3.  Someone will let you know where to park and how to load in from the
> back of the building.

Starting around what time?

#16064

From: "Bill Degnan" <billdeg@...>
Date: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:08 pm
Subject: Re: Phone Number / Load-in Info for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

billdeg

> >
> > Call this number when you arrive for access:
> >
> > 302 295 2249 (this is the # of the 1st floor IP phone)
> >
>
> Starting around what time?
>
>

Start calling now.

I expect the first people to start arriving in the late morning?? I don't
know.  I will be there some time between 9-11, unless someone says they
will be there definitely before 11, and in which case I will be there to
match the first person's arrival.

bd

#16065

From: Mike Loewen <mloewen@...>
Date: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:12 pm
Subject: Re: Phone Number / Load-in Info for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

mloewen16823

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, Bill Degnan wrote:

> I expect the first people to start arriving in the late morning?? I don't
> know.  I will be there some time between 9-11, unless someone says they
> will be there definitely before 11, and in which case I will be there to
> match the first person's arrival.

     I hope to arrive around 1:00 P.M.  I'm bringing my IMSAI and drives,
along with a Televideo terminal to repair.

     Who else is going?


Mike Loewen 		 mloewen@...
Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/

#16066

From: "Bill Degnan" <billdeg@...>
Date: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: Phone Number / Load-in Info for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

billdeg

>
>     I hope to arrive around 1:00 P.M.  I'm bringing my IMSAI and drives,

> along with a Televideo terminal to repair.
>

Is this for CP/M prep?  I may bring mine then too, I think Dan may be
bringing his IMSAI.  I plan to start working on the machine that will be my
CP/M class machine.

I was also going to bring my Altair 8800b, because it's stable, and I have
a probably working I/O card (Dan is bringing 3 of my I/O cards) and boot
prom.   I have already tested that the boot prom loads into memory, etc.
It's looking for an Altair SIO.



Bill

#16067

From: Evan Koblentz <evan@...>
Date: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:22 pm
Subject: Re: Phone Number / Load-in Info for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

evan947

> Who else is going?

I'll probably get there around noon-ish .... just in time for lunch!

#16068

From: Mike Loewen <mloewen@...>
Date: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:22 pm
Subject: Re: Phone Number / Load-in Info for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

mloewen16823

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, Bill Degnan wrote:

> Is this for CP/M prep?  I may bring mine then too, I think Dan may be
> bringing his IMSAI.  I plan to start working on the machine that will be my
> CP/M class machine.

     CP/M, yes.  The machine itself works, but it's not talking to the
drives.  If I get that working, I may take a whack at the 68K coprocessor
board and CP/M-68K.


Mike Loewen 		 mloewen@...
Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/

#16069

From: Dan Roganti <ragooman@...>
Date: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: Phone Number / Load-in Info for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

ragoo_sauce

_{----- Mike Loewen wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, Bill Degnan wrote:
>
> > Is this for CP/M prep?  I may bring mine then too, I think Dan may be
> > bringing his IMSAI.  I plan to start working on the machine that will be my
> > CP/M class machine.
>
>     CP/M, yes.  The machine itself works, but it's not talking to the
> drives.  If I get that working, I may take a whack at the 68K coprocessor
> board and CP/M-68K.
>

I will bring mine too. I like to finally fix my Z80 card. I can bring the Zapple Monitor Rom, we can build that and install it. I'll have my eprom burner station too.

But I finally}_{want to copy the Cutter Monitor Rom. Is that in a 2716 or 9216 ? I dont have an 9216 adapter yet, but I think I can make one there, it's a couple of pins.

I'll have your stuff too Bill.
Would you have an extra terminal there ?

I'll bring my equipment, tools and parts too.

=Dan}

#16070

From: "Bill Degnan" <billdeg@...>
Date: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: Phone Number / Load-in Info for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

billdeg

9216.  I would love to help!  Can we convert to a more common format like
1702's?   My Processor Tech Prom card (used for Cutter) has a bad
compontent and the boot does not complete.  After the data loads into
memory, gets stuck in a loop.
Bill


>I'll have my eprom burner station too.
>
> But I finally want to copy the Cutter Monitor Rom. Is that in a 2716 or
9216 ? I dont have an 9216 adapter yet, but I think I can make one there,
it's a couple of pins.
>
> I'll have your stuff too Bill.

awesome

> Would you have an extra terminal there ?
>

I will make sure I have at least one reliable terminal on hand, in addition
to my laptop with the terminal emulator.

#16071

From: Dan Roganti <ragooman@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:54 am
Subject: Re: Phone Number / Load-in Info for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

ragoo_sauce

Bill Degnan wrote:

9216. I would love to help! Can we convert to a more common format like 1702's? My Processor Tech Prom card (used for Cutter) has a bad compontent and the boot does not complete. After the data loads into memory, gets stuck in a loop.

Is the the GPM card ?
The smallest that can use is a 2708. The card must be compatible with 2716 since the 9216 rom is wired on there for the same logic level on the chip select pins(that Rom is configurable at the manufacturer).

Plus, I rather make a 2716, mainly because I don't have a 1702/2708 programmer(another To Do), it would too many 1702's to hold that monitor rom - jeesh- plus the 2716 is just the right size(not to big, not to small) and easy to get, and it's compatible with all 6116 ram cards.

The loop problem sounds weird
Are you sure the SIO card is ok?
Do you at least get a prompt ?
Sounds like it's going to be a looong wknd :)
I think we better order in

=Dan

#16072

From: BDegnan <billdeg@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:39 am
Subject: RE: Phone Number / Load-in Info for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

billdeg

Dan we don't have to try to fix the gpm, what I meant really is-can we transport the CUTTER prom image to any prom(s) as long as the end result is that cutter ends up in c000?
bd

From: Dan Roganti <ragooman@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:54 PM
To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] Phone Number / Load-in Info for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

Bill Degnan wrote:

9216. I would love to help! Can we convert to a more common format like 1702's? My Processor Tech Prom card (used for Cutter) has a bad compontent and the boot does not complete. After the data loads into memory, gets stuck in a loop.

#16073

From: Evan Koblentz <evan@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:10 am
Subject: Oooh! Oooh! RCA ....

evan947

Look what Dave Sica gave to MARCH tonight, via the recently closed David
Sarnoff library:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/legodude522/4310658484/in/photostream/

#16074

From: Evan Koblentz <evan@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:11 am
Subject: Re: Oooh! Oooh! RCA ....

evan947

> Look what Dave Sica gave to MARCH tonight, via the recently closed David
Sarnoff library:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/legodude522/4310658484/in/photostream/

PS - Unlabeled thing on the left is a Microtutor.

#16075

From: Matthew Mikolay <mikolaym@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:46 am
Subject: Re: Oooh! Oooh! RCA ....

mikolaym

I'm extremely jealous right now! Hahahaha

That thing better go on display! There's a ton of documentation over at the COSMAC VIP group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rcacosmac), including some issues of VIPER, that would go nice with it if MARCH ever puts it on display.

--- On Thu, 1/28/10, Evan Koblentz <evan@...> wrote:

From: Evan Koblentz <evan@...>
Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] Oooh! Oooh! RCA ....
To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 6:11 AM

> Look what Dave Sica gave to MARCH tonight, via the recently closed David Sarnoff library:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/legodude522/4310658484/in/photostream/

PS - Unlabeled thing on the left is a Microtutor.

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#16076

From: Ray Sills <raysills@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: Oooh! Oooh! RCA ....

raysills

OMG!   (Drool).... That's my baby!!  A for real honest-to-goodness RCA
VIP!!   YAY!

73 de Ray

On Jan 28, 2010, at 1:10 AM, Evan Koblentz wrote:

> Look what Dave Sica gave to MARCH tonight, via the recently closed
> David
> Sarnoff library:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/legodude522/4310658484/in/photostream/
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
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#16077

From: Ray Sills <raysills@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: Oooh! Oooh! RCA ....

raysills

I knew that!

On Jan 28, 2010, at 1:11 AM, Evan Koblentz wrote:

>
>> Look what Dave Sica gave to MARCH tonight, via the recently closed
>> David Sarnoff library:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/legodude522/4310658484/in/photostream/
>
> PS - Unlabeled thing on the left is a Microtutor.
>
>
> ----

#16078

From: Dan Roganti <ragooman@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: Phone Number / Load-in Info for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

ragoo_sauce

BDegnan wrote:

Dan we don't have to try to fix the gpm, what I meant really is-can we transport the CUTTER prom image to any prom(s) as long as the end result is that cutter ends up in c000?
bd

oh yeah, no problem.

=Dan

http://www.vintagecomputer.net/ragooman/

#16079

From: Christian Liendo <christian_liendo@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: Oooh! Oooh! RCA ....

christian_li...

Very Very Nice..

Well I can donate my VCFE display so you can display that right away. I do think it should go in the "Made in NJ" area.

#16080

From: "Bill Degnan" <billdeg@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: Phone Number / Load-in Info for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

billdeg

>
> BDegnan wrote:
>
>   Dan
> we don't have to try to fix the gpm, what I meant really is-can we
> transport the CUTTER prom image to any prom(s) as long as the end
> result is that cutter ends up in c000?
>
> bd
>
> oh yeah, no problem.
>

Because if so, I can put CUTTER on one of these:
http://vintagecomputer.net/MITS/S-100_cards/
using 1702(s).  The C000 address space is still open on this card.

Bill

#16081

From: Evan Koblentz <evan@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:03 pm
Subject: Re: Oooh! Oooh! RCA ....

evan947

> Look what Dave Sica gave to MARCH tonight, via the recently closed David
Sarnoff library:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/legodude522/4310658484/in/photostream/

Chris and our other RCA fans: I appreciate your enthusiasm!

We can fit this into our existing homebrew-era computers exhibit.  Big
display case, not much currently inside it.  Chris, let's talk offline
about your previous VCF exhibit.

#16082

From: "Bill Degnan" <billdeg@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: Oooh! Oooh! RCA ....

billdeg

This is not necessarily homebrew era, rather later 70's early 80's.  That's
when all of the SBC magazines were most popular.
bd

-------- Original Message --------
> From: "Evan Koblentz" <evan@...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:04 PM
> To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] Oooh!  Oooh!  RCA ....
>
> > Look what Dave Sica gave to MARCH tonight, via the recently closed
David Sarnoff library:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/legodude522/4310658484/in/photostream/
>
> Chris and our other RCA fans: I appreciate your enthusiasm!
>
> We can fit this into our existing homebrew-era computers exhibit.  Big
> display case, not much currently inside it.  Chris, let's talk offline
> about your previous VCF exhibit.
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#16083

From: evan@...
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:45 pm
Subject: Re: Oooh! Oooh! RCA ....

evan947

The exhibit covers both technologies -- homebrew computers + SBC.

Like all ours exhibits, it could use a refresh presentation-wise. I fully admit
that we rushed these exhibits to have * something * ready for the previous VCF
East. Hoping to make them all much nicer in 2010.


------Original Message------
From: Bill Degnan
Sender: MARCH Yahoo
To: MARCH Yahoo
ReplyTo: MARCH Yahoo
Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] Oooh!  Oooh!  RCA ....
Sent: Jan 28, 2010 12:27 PM

This is not necessarily homebrew era, rather later 70's early 80's.  That's
when all of the SBC magazines were most popular.
bd

-------- Original Message --------
> From: "Evan Koblentz" <evan@...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:04 PM
> To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] Oooh!  Oooh!  RCA ....
>
> > Look what Dave Sica gave to MARCH tonight, via the recently closed
David Sarnoff library:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/legodude522/4310658484/in/photostream/
>
> Chris and our other RCA fans: I appreciate your enthusiasm!
>
> We can fit this into our existing homebrew-era computers exhibit.  Big
> display case, not much currently inside it.  Chris, let's talk offline
> about your previous VCF exhibit.
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



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#16084

From: "Dan Roganti" <ragooman@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:04 pm
Subject: Re: Oooh! Oooh! RCA ....

ragoo_sauce

--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, evan@... wrote:
>
> The exhibit covers both technologies -- homebrew computers + SBC.
>

I was wondering what you call 'homebrew' That's typically the homebuilt variety
of computers, as in, hand-wired, wirewrapped,  custom design machines (not one
of the brands). Computer kits sold retail back then wouldn't fall into this, if
it's Altair kit or a KIM-1 kit. That was just the inexpensive way of owning your
own computer, rather than buying an assembled machine.

=Dan

#16085

From: Evan Koblentz <evan@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:22 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Oooh! Oooh! RCA ....

evan947

>> The exhibit covers both technologies -- homebrew computers + SBC.
> I was wondering what you call 'homebrew' That's typically the homebuilt
variety .... Computer kits sold retail back then wouldn't fall into this, if
it's Altair kit or a KIM-1 kit.

Sign on the door says "Homebrew-era" to cover ourselves.  :)

Contents of the room currently include:
- TV Typewriter II
- Altair 8800 w/ ASR-33
- IMSAI 8080 w/ ADM3A
- Space allocated for Processor Tech. SOL-20 from Sridhar ....
HELLLLOOOOOO Sridhar, where are you?
- True homebrew'ed computer from Bill Dudley, who lives close to Infoage
and also gave us the TVT-II
- Display case containing some SBC dev kits, Byte V.1/#1, Creative
Computing Vol.1/#1, and space for more stuff .... we're waiting on a
Replica 1 (from Vince) and we are trying to find where we put our KIM-1.
(Not lost!!!! Just probably buried somewhere.)

#16086

From: "Bill Degnan" <billdeg@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:34 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Oooh! Oooh! RCA ....

billdeg

The homebrew era was over before the ELF came out.  Homebrew era is
typically considered 1970-1975, maybe 1976.  Elf was later.  I know it's
not that big of a deal, I don't really care, except to just say that the
low-cost SBC computers were most popular after the homebrew era.  The sbc's
were pre-fab kits that you assembled.  Homebrew to me means you build the
entire computer yourself without any pre-fab kit.  Another way to look at
the ElF - it's a 2nd generation homebrew/SBC era computer.

ok dead horse beaten.

Bill

-------- Original Message --------
> From: "Evan Koblentz" <evan@...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:24 PM
> To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] Re: Oooh!  Oooh!  RCA ....
>
> >> The exhibit covers both technologies -- homebrew computers + SBC.
> > I was wondering what you call 'homebrew' That's typically the homebuilt
variety .... Computer kits sold retail back then wouldn't fall into this,
if it's Altair kit or a KIM-1 kit.
>
> Sign on the door says "Homebrew-era" to cover ourselves.  :)
>
> Contents of the room currently include:
> - TV Typewriter II
> - Altair 8800 w/ ASR-33
> - IMSAI 8080 w/ ADM3A
> - Space allocated for Processor Tech. SOL-20 from Sridhar ....
> HELLLLOOOOOO Sridhar, where are you?
> - True homebrew'ed computer from Bill Dudley, who lives close to Infoage

> and also gave us the TVT-II
> - Display case containing some SBC dev kits, Byte V.1/#1, Creative
> Computing Vol.1/#1, and space for more stuff .... we're waiting on a
> Replica 1 (from Vince) and we are trying to find where we put our KIM-1.

> (Not lost!!!! Just probably buried somewhere.)
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#16087

From: evan@...
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:37 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Oooh! Oooh! RCA ....

evan947

>>> the low-cost SBC computers were most popular after the homebrew era.

Correct. That's why the homebrew-era stuff is in the first half of the room, and
SBC stuff is in the second half.

#16088

From: Christian Liendo <christian_liendo@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:26 pm
Subject: Fw: Re: Fwd: [COMMODOR] The Commodore 64 - 1980's Number 1 computer

christian_li...

Did anyone just get this now?

Seriously I have been getting MARCH e-mails days after they have been sent

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, fieldfan1 <jburke293@...> wrote:

From: fieldfan1 <jburke293@...>
Subject: [midatlanticretro] Re: Fwd: [COMMODOR] The Commodore 64 - 1980's Number 1 computer
To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:09 PM

Bah! Commodore only sold so much because they kept pushing prices down to drive the competition out of business. :^)

--- In midatlanticretro@ yahoogroups. com, Bryan Pope <bryan.pope@ ...> wrote:
>
> Of course the Commodore 64 is the number 1 computer of the 1980's! :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bryan
>
> P.S. And it is very good indeed to see the Amiga in their list!
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [COMMODOR] The Commodore 64 - 1980's Number 1 computer
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:45:06 -0800 (PST)
> From: rbernardo@.. .
> To: commodor@...
>
>
>
> CNET TV has posted a short video listing the Top 5 computers of the
> 1980's. The Commodore 64 wins out by being number 1! (We're number
> 1... we're number 1!) The Amiga computer comes in fifth place. To
> see the video, go to
>
> <http://cnettv. cnet.com/ 1980s-computers/ 9742-1_53- 50081092. html?tag= smallCarouselAre a.1>
>
> Truly,
> Robert Bernardo
> Fresno Commodore User Group
> http://videocam. net.au/fcug
> The Other Group of Amigoids
> http://www.calweb. com/~rabel1/
> Southern California Commodore& Amiga Network
> http://www.sccaners .org
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#16089

From: "Dan Roganti" <ragooman@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:26 pm
Subject: Things To Do for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

ragoo_sauce

Mike,

Can we make some foam pads too for the TRS80 Model II kybd ??

=Dan

#16090

From: Mike Loewen <mloewen@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:32 pm
Subject: Re: Things To Do for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

mloewen16823

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, Dan Roganti wrote:

> Can we make some foam pads too for the TRS80 Model II kybd ??

     If you can find some suitable foam, then yes.  Our hobby shop closed up
and I don't have any other local sources.  I can bring the punch, rubber
cement and mylar foil.


Mike Loewen 		 mloewen@...
Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/

#16091

From: "Bill Degnan" <billdeg@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:42 pm
Subject: Re: Things To Do for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

billdeg

There is a Lowes near by, I thought you mentioned Lowes was where you got
the foam the last time?  I also have a Model II keyboard, but to my
knowlege it's OK.
Bill


-------- Original Message --------
> From: "Mike Loewen" <mloewen@...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:33 PM
> To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] Things To Do  for Tech Weekend (Jan
30-31)
>
> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, Dan Roganti wrote:
>
> > Can we make some foam pads too for the TRS80 Model II kybd ??
>
>     If you can find some suitable foam, then yes.  Our hobby shop closed
up
> and I don't have any other local sources.  I can bring the punch, rubber

> cement and mylar foil.
>
>
> Mike Loewen 		 mloewen@...
> Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#16092

From: "Dan Roganti" <ragooman@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:44 pm
Subject: Re: Things To Do for Tech Weekend (Jan 30-31)

ragoo_sauce

--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, Mike Loewen <mloewen@...> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, Dan Roganti wrote:
>
> > Can we make some foam pads too for the TRS80 Model II kybd ??
>
>     If you can find some suitable foam, then yes.  Our hobby shop closed up
> and I don't have any other local sources.  I can bring the punch, rubber
> cement and mylar foil.


ok, I'll take a look aroun here, there's a bunch of hobby shops.
I can't remember what should I look for again, and what thickness ?

=Dan