Bill,
Great!  Yes I meant the red plastic switch cover.  Did you still need a TI/99
Expansion unit?
Bill

In a message dated 8/2/2005 6:03:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,
wh.sudbrink@... writes:

> Coming.
>
>  Bringing spare red IMSAI front panel switch.  I assume you mean the plastic
>  "slap"
>  lever switch.  I have a bunch of those.  I don't have a spare "rocker"
style
>  power switch.
>  But, those never break anyway (but they can get very dirty).  Also,
bringing
>  various tools
>  and spare S-100 boards useful in troubleshooting an IMSAI.
>
>  Bringing a couple of fans, some extension cords and power strips.  Should I
>  bring a
>  couple of folding chairs?
>
>  Bringing my Sol and OSI C4P-MF.
>
>  Not bringing the Northstar and ADM-3A as leaving it behind will make some
>  more room in
>  my car for the fans and it sounds like we want to keep this event a little
>  smaller anyway.
>
>  Also, if I don't kill him first, probably bringing my 12-year-old son
(which
>  will probably
>  be a mistake).
>
>  Bill Sudbrink

I decided to bring the Atari again, to get kids' attention (big kids
too!)... Can someone bring a TV larger than my 13-inch one?  It needs to be
color and have a coax input, however.

A reminder to all MARCH'ers -- you don't have to exhibit to be welcome at
the Aug. 13 event -- EVERYONE is encouraged to show up that day, hang out,
help, take a tour, and preach our hobby to the public.  Fun guaranteed!!


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Would the guy who emailed me about getting the IBM XT clone 200 watt
power supplies please write again. I DID reply, but did not hear back
from you. Thank you. Bill/KA3AIS

Quite right! There was a sticker over the E (L?), making it look like
an "L". Anybody know the power pin-out, so I can fire up this bad boy?
Original supply gone with the wind.  Bill/KA3AIS

--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, "Evan" <evan947@y...> wrote:
> I dialed up Curt Vendel for this one.  He says it's the 65XE, not
XL, and
> that it's actually an 800XL repackaged in grey and white plastic.
He said
> it was one of several name changes when the Trammiel clan took over.
>
>   _____
>
> From: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wpileggi
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:00 PM
> To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [midatlanticretro] Just what is an Atari 65XL?
>
>
> Just what is an Atari 65XL? A friend pulled one out of garage and told
> me to find a home for it.
> Bill/KA3AIS
>
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dude, if you're referring to me, I might want to pick
them up, seeing that I've had to pick up stuph in the
Philly area for over a year now. Don't know how soon
that'll be though. As it is I work 65-75 hours a week,
and this particular one might turn into 95! If you're
really in a hurry, I could send you the postage to
ship them, but I'd just as soon let you have it.
Thanks.

--- wpileggi <wpileggi@...> wrote:

> Would the guy who emailed me about getting the IBM
> XT clone 200 watt
> power supplies please write again. I DID reply, but
> did not hear back
> from you. Thank you. Bill/KA3AIS
>
>
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early on I would say most uP's have bugs. It took
Motorola some time to get the 68000 correct. As to the
power supplies, some of the AT's had issues, can't
remember what, but they had warnings posted on them
saying this or that would happen if this or that
was/wasn't done. Vague I know. And it's also my
understanding that the original IBM mono monitors
would explode if they were plugged into a CGA card.
I'm not willing to try this though.
  I think I may have reached my qouta for the week.
Evan seems to have a problem with my posts. I'll have
to investigate the matter further to see if the
problem is reconcilable.

--- wpileggi <wpileggi@...> wrote:

> Regarding the IBM PC, it was manufactured over a 6
> year span. There
> were quite a few changes during the production run.
> Hence, there are a
> LOT of them floating about, mostly worth nil,
> especially "B" models. I
> had examples of all of them. The first general
> production run had 16Kb
> (RAM) motherboards; the power supply and rear panels
> were painted
> black; and the 8080 CPU had a bug (shades of the
> much later Pentium).
> THOSE are the coolest and actually valuable PC's.
> The rest?....
>
> An interesting aside: a fellow I know who worked for
> IBM in Australia
> says the power supplies were always blowing
> up....the early ones
> didn't get the power supply quite right. Bill/KA3AIS
>
>
>




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--- Jim Scheef <jscheef@...> wrote:

> Could we change "New York" to "Connecticut"? :-)
>
> Jim

  Well for a jumpstart on that Jim, they could build
that bridge across the L.I. sound joining the two. But
I think the fear there was that Connecticut would turn
into New York. Or something like that ;)



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Chris,

I suspect you're referring to IBM's anti-overclocking moves: Early IBM AT's
ran at 6MHz on chips rated at 8Mhz. This was done purely because of IBM's
conservative design philosophy. The first AT clones ran at 8MHz and were
faster. Duh! So IBM released the AT Model 339 running at 8MHz (I had one at
work for several years) and the clones quickly moved to 10, 12, and 16MHz.
And so overclocking became an industry. Naturally IBM thought this was
~*BAD*~ and took steps in the BIOS to prevent overclocking. I do not know if
they actually had a warning label, but a machine with such a label might be
"more collectible".

Early IBM monitors (and all?? computer monitors of those years) were single
frequency. The MDA (monochrome) adapter had a higher vertical sync frequency
than the CGA adapter so monitor damage was probably quite possible.

The NEC Multisync was (I believe) the first multi-frequency monitor. It
predated the VGA standard but accepted both digital (MDA, CGA, EGA) and
analog (VGA) inputs. This would qualify as 'vintage' in my book.
Unfortunately my NEC Multisync finally gave up a few years ago after decades
of use on EGA and then VGA graphics. (Returning to my original digression...)
It is still possible to fry a monitor by feeding it the wrong frequencies.
While today's monitors are much more tolerant, today's graphics cards can do
things undreamed of a few years ago, so caution is always warranted when
connecting a monitor to a computer for the first time. They don't call it
"Safe Mode" for nothin'.

Jim


--- Chris M <chrism3667@...> wrote:

> early on I would say most uP's have bugs. It took
> Motorola some time to get the 68000 correct. As to the
> power supplies, some of the AT's had issues, can't
> remember what, but they had warnings posted on them
> saying this or that would happen if this or that
> was/wasn't done. Vague I know. And it's also my
> understanding that the original IBM mono monitors
> would explode if they were plugged into a CGA card.
> I'm not willing to try this though.
>  I think I may have reached my qouta for the week.
> Evan seems to have a problem with my posts. I'll have
> to investigate the matter further to see if the
> problem is reconcilable.
>
> --- wpileggi <wpileggi@...> wrote:
>
> > Regarding the IBM PC, it was manufactured over a 6
> > year span. There
> > were quite a few changes during the production run.
> > Hence, there are a
> > LOT of them floating about, mostly worth nil,
> > especially "B" models. I
> > had examples of all of them. The first general
> > production run had 16Kb
> > (RAM) motherboards; the power supply and rear panels
> > were painted
> > black; and the 8080 CPU had a bug (shades of the
> > much later Pentium).
> > THOSE are the coolest and actually valuable PC's.
> > The rest?....
> >
> > An interesting aside: a fellow I know who worked for
> > IBM in Australia
> > says the power supplies were always blowing
> > up....the early ones
> > didn't get the power supply quite right. Bill/KA3AIS
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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--- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, billdeg@a... wrote:
> I may have missed a reply to my inquiry...is there a chat
scheduled for  this
> monday to discuss the infoage gathering?
>
> I plan to bring
> 1) a shelf case of TRS 80 model II/12/16 (and some model 4)
components  and
> software (not the computers),
> 2) candidate external harddrives for the TRS 80 Model 4 with
cables.
> 3) an IMSAI 8080
> 4) SOL terminal computer (just for show).
> 5) A monitor and disk drives for the IMSAI
> 6) IMSAI/SOL software
> 7) Evan still need a basic color monitor?
> 8) Cable making equipment, tools
> 9) stuff to give away as room in my car permits.
>
> My goal is to work on the IMSAI with Bill (and anyone interested)
and the
> TRS 80 stuff with Kelly (and anyone interested).
>
> I assume Bill and Kelly are still coming?
>
> I could use a red switch for the IMSAI if anyone has a spare.
>
> Bill Degnan

Bill,

Regretfully, I won't be able to attend the upcoming opening, but am
looking forward to other opportunities to see the space and help get
it set up. (In addition to my computer and tech writing skills, I'm
good at construction stuff, too.)

Regarding items 1 and 9 in your list: I'm interested in anything
related to TRS-80, any model. (I'm going to see if I can get one of
my Mod Is up and running next month...) Anything you don't want,
please let me know!

Thanks,

-John M.

Evan,
Sure.  I don't really know much about the 100/200's.
Bill

In a message dated 8/3/2005 3:27:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
evan947@... writes:

> Bill / Kelly -- want me to bring the Model 100 again?
>
>  Kelly -- I haven't played with it since TCF; I forget what you said about
>  how it works sometimes and not other times.

John,

I will keep that in mind.  Let me know what you need.  Right off I have a lot
of extra disk doubler cards for Mod 1 expansion units, disk controllers for
model III/4, and. RS232 cards for model III.

I have a cool software programs called PC3 and PC Four that emulate Model III
and Model 4's on an IBM XT, and and copy utility that allows copying of Model
III and 4 software to PC and back again.    You can format Model III disks on
a PC, etc.  Very useful for archiving.

If you're in the Wilmington, Delaware area, feel free to come down for a
visit.  Too much to list here.

Bill



> Bill,
>
>  Regretfully, I won't be able to attend the upcoming opening, but am
>  looking forward to other opportunities to see the space and help get
>  it set up. (In addition to my computer and tech writing skills, I'm
>  good at construction stuff, too.)
>
>  Regarding items 1 and 9 in your list: I'm interested in anything
>  related to TRS-80, any model. (I'm going to see if I can get one of
>  my Mod Is up and running next month...) Anything you don't want,
>  please let me know!
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  -John M.
>

Hi Bob,

    I suppose it would be fun to see that old stuff one more time...
We could make a trip of it.  Why isn't the seller willing to pack the
stuff himself, if he'll be reimbursed?

    I worked on the CX floppy drive (Qume), and the disk controller
circuit.

     Bob

--- Bob Applegate <bob@...> wrote:

> Evan <evan947@...> wrote :
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > VCF's Sellam Ismail asks if anyone from our group would pack and
> ship some
> > Apple II clones and other gear for him.  The loot is currently
> in Blackwood,
> > NJ (a bit south of Cherry Hill).  In exchange, he's offering a
> free VCF
> > t-shirt and he'll pick up your admission to any VCF event (which is
> VCF 8
> > this fall or our VCF East 3.0 next spring).  He also says the
> helper can
> > keep the monitors from the stash in question.  Of course, he
> will reimburse
> > the S/H costs.
> >
> > What's to be packed and shipped:
> >
> > - Three luggables
> > - a box of disks
> > - external hard drives
> > - box of miscellany
> >
> > See photo here:
>
> That fellow kept trying to sell it all to ex-Franklin people, but
> nobody
> would bite.  I worked on all the equipment in the pile and expressed
> an
> interest, but wouldn't give firm prices.  Other Apple-clone guys
> (Ernest
> at apple2clones.com) was also very interested.  This fellow picked up
> all
> the stuff at the famous Franklin "yard sale" at the disco.
>
> If anyone wants to lead the project, I'll volunteer to assist.  It'll
> be
> fun to see all this stuff again.  All of the portables are Franklin
> CXs,
> a "portable" machine that could read many different disk formats, ran
> CP/M as well as FDOS (Franklin's much-improved DOS), etc.
>
> Hey Bob Grieb, are you interested?  You worked on the CXs, right?
>
> Bob
>
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My first (compatible) PC was an ITT Xtra XP. I don't
think it would run Longhorn though. Nor Shorthorn. It
had a 6mhz crystal (12 mhz I think actually). I went
out and bought a 16, or possibly swapped it out of my
Tandy 2000, which ran at 8mhz, and plugged it in. The
speed differential was noticeable, not blinding
though.
  Come to think of it the original PC divided the
crystal frequency by 3, so I don't know what
frequencies were required for a '286. Therefore ignore
all the above.
  I think the IBM monitor would explode if you plugged
it into a CGA card. This is what I've heard. Good ol'
Big Blue. Again, don't try it at home (or work).
  The NEC created the Multisync. I found one at TCF for
3 bucks :). Not for sale...sorry. My first one, a
Multisync II, I still have, and it probably has about
200 hours on the tube. It's flakey though. When I get
a chance, I got to crack it open and have a looksee.

--- Jim Scheef <jscheef@...> wrote:

> Chris,
>
> I suspect you're referring to IBM's
> anti-overclocking moves: Early IBM AT's
> ran at 6MHz on chips rated at 8Mhz. This was done
> purely because of IBM's
> conservative design philosophy. The first AT clones
> ran at 8MHz and were
> faster. Duh! So IBM released the AT Model 339
> running at 8MHz (I had one at
> work for several years) and the clones quickly moved
> to 10, 12, and 16MHz.
> And so overclocking became an industry. Naturally
> IBM thought this was
> ~*BAD*~ and took steps in the BIOS to prevent
> overclocking. I do not know if
> they actually had a warning label, but a machine
> with such a label might be
> "more collectible".
>
> Early IBM monitors (and all?? computer monitors of
> those years) were single
> frequency. The MDA (monochrome) adapter had a higher
> vertical sync frequency
> than the CGA adapter so monitor damage was probably
> quite possible.
>
> The NEC Multisync was (I believe) the first
> multi-frequency monitor. It
> predated the VGA standard but accepted both digital
> (MDA, CGA, EGA) and
> analog (VGA) inputs. This would qualify as 'vintage'
> in my book.
> Unfortunately my NEC Multisync finally gave up a few
> years ago after decades
> of use on EGA and then VGA graphics. (Returning to
> my original digression...)
> It is still possible to fry a monitor by feeding it
> the wrong frequencies.
> While today's monitors are much more tolerant,
> today's graphics cards can do
> things undreamed of a few years ago, so caution is
> always warranted when
> connecting a monitor to a computer for the first
> time. They don't call it
> "Safe Mode" for nothin'.
>
> Jim
>
>
> --- Chris M <chrism3667@...> wrote:
>
> > early on I would say most uP's have bugs. It took
> > Motorola some time to get the 68000 correct. As to
> the
> > power supplies, some of the AT's had issues, can't
> > remember what, but they had warnings posted on
> them
> > saying this or that would happen if this or that
> > was/wasn't done. Vague I know. And it's also my
> > understanding that the original IBM mono monitors
> > would explode if they were plugged into a CGA
> card.
> > I'm not willing to try this though.
> >  I think I may have reached my qouta for the week.
> > Evan seems to have a problem with my posts. I'll
> have
> > to investigate the matter further to see if the
> > problem is reconcilable.
> >
> > --- wpileggi <wpileggi@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Regarding the IBM PC, it was manufactured over a
> 6
> > > year span. There
> > > were quite a few changes during the production
> run.
> > > Hence, there are a
> > > LOT of them floating about, mostly worth nil,
> > > especially "B" models. I
> > > had examples of all of them. The first general
> > > production run had 16Kb
> > > (RAM) motherboards; the power supply and rear
> panels
> > > were painted
> > > black; and the 8080 CPU had a bug (shades of the
> > > much later Pentium).
> > > THOSE are the coolest and actually valuable
> PC's.
> > > The rest?....
> > >
> > > An interesting aside: a fellow I know who worked
> for
> > > IBM in Australia
> > > says the power supplies were always blowing
> > > up....the early ones
> > > didn't get the power supply quite right.
> Bill/KA3AIS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Hello - I wrote earlier that I have a Compaq Deskpro 386s (with math co-pro,
ethernet card, and 9MB RAM) with a 3.5 and 5 1/4" drive (both high density),
but the 5 1/4" did not work. I have learned last night that after you insert a
disk you have to depress the disk release button to read disks (but not too
far, as to eject the diskette).  For the past year or so I thought the disk
drive was bad!  I have a PS/1 (486) with the same type of 5 1/4 drive (that I
thought was also bad and will be testing today).

What threw me off is the fact that the 3.5 in drives on the Deskpro and the
PS/1 do not require that one press in the similar-looking disk release button.
In the days when I would have had a similar computer at work, I never had a
unit with a 5 1/4 drive that had a drive button. This very important knowledge
was never assimilated into my mental operations manual.

I may be the last person on the block to know all of this.  You still see
systems with both the 5 1/4 and 3.5 drives in thrift stores.  They are great
machines for archiving diskettes and highly prized by me for that reason.

For the record I would not consider either a Compaq Deskpro 386 or PS/1 486
"vintage," but every vintage collector should have a system with mixed drive
format for transferring files (and a pair of Laplink cables).

>
> From: john_apw
> Sent: 8/3/2005 3:08 PM
> Subject: [midatlanticretro] Re: InfoAgo Chat? Monday?
> Regarding items 1 and 9 in your list: I'm interested in anything
> related to TRS-80, any model. (I'm going to see if I can get one of
> my Mod Is up and running next month...) Anything you don't want,
> please let me know!
>
> Thanks,
>
> -John M.

UtOh! Looks like I have some competition in the Tandy area! :-)

All kidding aside, I have quite a Tandy business machine collection,
including complete Model II, Model 12, Model 16b, Model 6000s. I also have a
Model 4 and 4p that work. A model 100, 102 and 200. For the PCs, I have a
model 1000sx.

I have bunches of spare parts for the business machines, and several
examples of the 16b and the model 12. If anyone needs help, parts or
software for these just let me know.

Non working units include: A model III ,a model 16, and a Model 600. Both
are in the process of being repaired.

I'm now looking for the Tandy terminals. I have a DT-1 on the way, and am on
the look out for a DT-100 (which is a rebadged and slightly crippled wyse
(60 or 75)). Then it's on to the CoCo and MC-10 machines.

Following is a complete list of the Tandy machines I have right now.
1 - 100
2 - 102
1 - 200
1 - 600 *
1 - 4
2 - 4p
1 - II
1 - III *
3 - 12
1 - 16 *
2 - 16b
2 - 6000
1 - 1000sx

Most have hard drives too. Ones with an * are non working units.

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Kelly Leavitt wrote:

> All kidding aside, I have quite a Tandy business machine collection,
> including complete Model II, Model 12, Model 16b, Model 6000s. I also have a
> Model 4 and 4p that work. A model 100, 102 and 200. For the PCs, I have a
> model 1000sx.

     I am looking at eventually adding more Tandy machines, to include any
of the non-Coco systems prior to the Model 1000s.  Currently, the only
functional unit I have is a 128Kb Model 4 (non-gate array), which was my
2nd computer.  I also have a 64Kb gate-array Model 4 with floppy drive
problems, and a functional Model 1 monitor.  I've been promised a complete
Model III system with printer, hopefully by the end of the summer.  My
first computer was a Model III, which I gradually upgraded to 48Kb, 2 SSDD
floppy drives, RS-232 interface and a 300bps modem.

     I have two 5Mb primary hard drives for the Model III/4 systems, one
with a defective controller and the other untested.

     I'm particularly interested in finding (and making operational) a
6000HD system.  I learned Unix (XENIX, actually) on one of those in 1985,
and wrote a BBS for it which ran for a couple of years in the Tacoma, WA
area.  I understand that hard drives were a common failure point on the
6000s, and indeed that's what eventually took down our BBS system.  We had
an optional 4-port serial board installed, and four 2400bps modems online.

     Most of my recent acquisitions have been CP/M based systems.  I have an
Osborne 1 (original tan case), 2nd revision Osborne 1 (blue/white) and an
Osborne Executive.  Also a Kaypro 2, Kaypro 2X and a Kaypro 10.

     I also have 3 Apple IIe systems and parts which I have to test and
consolidate.  Two are vanilla IIe systems and the third is the enhanced
version.  I'll probably put together one of each, and make the third
available for a trade.

     I'm slowly putting my collection online: URL at the bottom.


Mike Loewen 		 mloewen@...
Old Technology http://ripsaw.cac.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/

Well, all the talking yesterday spurred me to test my model III that had
been sitting for several years. My sister picked this up at a storage center
sale for me and I never got around to testing it.

It works. That's one fewer on the not working list. Still needs some TLC in
the keyboard and display, but at least it works!

So, here is the updated list:
Following is a complete list of the Tandy machines I have right now.
1 - 100
2 - 102
1 - 200
1 - 600 *
1 - 4
2 - 4p
1 - II
1 - III
3 - 12
1 - 16 *
2 - 16b
2 - 6000
1 - 1000sx

Most have hard drives too. Ones with an * are non working units.

For those who may have any stuff laying around, here's what I'm looking for:

TRS-80 (Model I)
DT-100
MC-10
CoCo
CoCo2
CoCo3
16

Marchers -- below is a message that InfoAge's Fred C. posted to the NJARC
mailing list -- it certainly would be nice if some of us helped as well.  I
plan to go tomorrow.  (Questions tomorrow?  My cell is 646-546-999.)

  - Evan

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Hello All,

   This is our last weekend before the dedication and open house.

   In spite of the hot weather we are close to having the hotel and
library looking acceptable.   If you can spare any time between 9am to
5PM Saturday and 12PM to 5PM Sunday it will make a difference.  Contact
me if you can work other times.

   As of today we need to finish painting the foyer, entrance office and
dining room.  Finish removing the boards off the rear downstairs
windows, clean the restrooms, some spot painting, some leaf raking and
general clean-up.  We also need to setup the display cases for the WW2
artifacts.

   If possible we will start hanging the WW2 posters.

   In spite of the terrible heat this past weekend our volunteers Dan
Lieb, Warren Cockran, Reid Cashour, Dan Lieb, Karin Carl, Ray Chase and
his grandson got alot done.  The hedges infront of the hotel are
trimmed
and the cuttings removed.  The 10 years of leaves on the front porch
are
removed.   The window boards are removed from the porch windows.  The
fallen limbs are removed from the lawns and roads.  And we painted half
the dining room.

   Yesterday Mike Ruane, his son Tom visited to look over the sound
system layout, the speaker podium placement etc.  Nels Warren also
visited.  His group restores WW2 military vehicles and he will have
three here for our event.

   So things are shaping up.  We have alot to do but we can make it with
help.....please help if you can.

Thank you,
Fred Carl
732 299-0894


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> Hardware Memory Management Unit.  :  )
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> 73 de Ray

Nope. Hochsprung Memory Management Unit. Shame on y'all :D

if I might ask, if the job is still open, is this stuph all
Apple/Franklin? If I were to go out there on my only night off this
week I'll need coaxing. Like something really groovy I'd get to keep
:D. Next week (not sure what the week'll bring though), I might be
more inclined just on the basis of goodwill.
  And it might not be common knowledge, but Franklin made a PC. I think
I have a lead on one though.

When you talk to Sellam, ask if we could maybe make some copies of the
disks.  That fellow bought a whole pile of Engineering notes, disks from
the Engineering department, etc.  I'll probably recognize some of my old
disks and would be interested in copying some of them.  Besides, he'll
need help just figuring out what disks are associated with what project.

Name a night when you want to go down, and maybe you'll get some
help from some of the guys that produced those computers.

Bob

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> It needs to be color and have a coax input, however.

Beware that there are two (plus) types of single-coax inputs.
1./ Cable TV 75 ohm "F" connector...  and sometimes RCA
2./ video / RS170 / NTSC  RCA connector *or* BNC.
Don't want you to get the wrong one.

John A.

All:

        I've tried posting this query both on the ClassicCmp list and on comp.os.cpm and no one has offered a solution so I'm going to try here.

        I have an Altair 8800b that I'm trying to get Microsoft 8k tape BASIC running on. I have two serial card options: a Vector Graphics Bitstreamer (8251-based) and a Solid State Music 2p/2s (AY3-1015 based). I have images of the paper tapes from my emulator and I have a copy of the toggle loader configured for 8k BASIC. This is the same setup I use on my Altair emulator to load the paper tapes and it works beautifully.

        The VG card works beautifully with a modified Turnkey Monitor but is not configurable to match what Microsoft BASIC expects for a terminal (the data register comes before the status register and the parallel port comes before serial in the I/O block). The SSM card is very configurable and can be made to match almost any serial card (it has an "Altair SIO Revision 1" section in the manual) but I can't get it to work for beans.

        Interestingly though, a short loopback program I wrote to use with the SSM works fine, echoing the characters back. I modified the monitor program from the VG configuration to use the SSM and it doesn't work.

        So, here's the question: does anyone in this group have a known-working SSM configuration and known-working program that I can compare to what I have? I'm looking to compare jumper settings, cable wiring and software -- everything. A solution is here but I'm not seeing it yet. I'm also going to write a short Windows-based "paper tape" emulator instead of trying to use the upload command of Procomm. I think that something is getting messed up with that.

        Thoughts? Thanks.

Rich

Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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All:

        I've tried posting this query both on the ClassicCmp list and on comp.os.cpm and no one has offered a solution so I'm going to try here.

        I have an Altair 8800b that I'm trying to get Microsoft 8k tape BASIC running on. I have two serial card options: a Vector Graphics Bitstreamer (8251-based) and a Solid State Music 2p/2s (AY3-1015 based). I have images of the paper tapes from my emulator and I have a copy of the toggle loader configured for 8k BASIC. This is the same setup I use on my Altair emulator to load the paper tapes and it works beautifully.

        The VG card works beautifully with a modified Turnkey Monitor but is not configurable to match what Microsoft BASIC expects for a terminal (the data register comes before the status register and the parallel port comes before serial in the I/O block). The SSM card is very configurable and can be made to match almost any serial card (it has an "Altair SIO Revision 1" section in the manual) but I can't get it to work for beans.

        Interestingly though, a short loopback program I wrote to use with the SSM works fine, echoing the characters back. I modified the monitor program from the VG configuration to use the SSM and it doesn't work.

        So, here's the question: does anyone in this group have a known-working SSM configuration and known-working program that I can compare to what I have? I'm looking to compare jumper settings, cable wiring and software -- everything. A solution is here but I'm not seeing it yet. I'm also going to write a short Windows-based "paper tape" emulator instead of trying to use the upload command of Procomm. I think that something is getting messed up with that.

        Thoughts? Thanks.

Rich

Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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Chris and I went to InfoAge today (Saturday, even though it's 4:19AM Sunday
as I'm writing this!) to help the staff there and to scope out the location
for next week's event.

I arrived in the morning and was assigned to painting duty.  LOL, that
didn't work out, so I was transferred to garbage-schlepping duty.
Eventually, I found a home in removing-wooden-boards-from-windows duty.
What can I say: physical destruction is fun.  The task allowed me to use a
drill and a sledgehammer.  Woohoo!

Then there was lunch, courtesy of InfoAge.  Quite tasty sub sandwiches.

Chris arrived after lunch, and Fred showed us around the building; I was
able to compare parts of it to how it looked when I visited a few months
with Andy.

Oh, speaking of "the building" -- the specific building where next week's
event will be held is called "the hotel" because, well, it was used for
barracks / dorms (the facility changed from Army to a college, many years
ago).

Chris and I checked out a bunch of potential rooms we could use next week,
and decided on a corner of the largest room, known as the dining room (it
was the cafeteria back in the days of old).   The dining room is VERY dirty
but we spent most of the afternoon sweeping, vacuuming, and mopping.  The
good news: this particular corner has several power outlets, a few windows,
and no obstructions.  We figured out that we can arrange our electric fans
on the side opposite the windows, so that with the windows open, it will
create a cooling draft.

Since the floor is in lousy condition, I'm going to shop for an inexpensive
tarp this week, and we can put that down, held down at the corners by duct
tape and on the sides by our tables.  It is far from an ideal solution (that
would be carpet), but it is cheap, easy, and effective.  If there's time,
however, I might call some carpet stores in the town where InfoAge is, to
see if someone will donate a leftover section for us.  You never know unless
you ask.   :)

Anyway, be prepared to see a lot of ugliness next week!  The staff at
InfoAge does not (and can not!) hide that the facility is very, very much
under renovation.  They're trying as much as possible to make it look nice
for the event but there are some big limitations.

- Evan





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