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#10015 From: Michael Martin <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:40 pm
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The spectacle in Lufkin's sky was to corroborate the prophecy that Walt Whitman made, regarding Shakespeare appearing in America.  The Shabd Guru moves even aliens around, if he wants to intervene.  He knows best.
 
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#10014 From: Michael Martin <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:07 pm
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MM:
A couple of years ago, as I recall, there were UFO sightings over Stratford-On-Avon.  Some explained that these sightings were Chinese Lanterns.  Others said that no way were they Chinese Lanterns.
 
Day before yesterday several UFOs were reported over Lufkin, Texas.  A report came out that a Chinese Wedding had released 50 Chinese Lanterns over Lufkin, Texas.  Others claim that this report is a cover-up.  Some say they've seen similar lights for years over the area.
 
I won't take one side, or the other, but I'll just say that this appears to be a Shakespearean Parallel disigned to tell us something.  I wonder what Jove might be trying to tell us?  LOL  I mean, coincidence is one thing, but what would the odds be on this one?  Hmmmmm???  Oh, here is the link to the Lufkin UFO sightings:
 
 
Michael Martin


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#10013 From: "Mike" <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:55 pm
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--- In michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com, "Sid" <hear.shabd1@...> wrote:
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> Dear Master,
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> I was wondering about the time you described the 8th region as a twilight. I thought that it was descriptionless and without such attributes? Thanks.

Saints try to describe it, but we have little to compare with it.  The light and sound are unmanifested.  I might as well stop, because nothing I say accurately describes it.  It just has to be experienced.  Thanks.

Michael Martin



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#10012 From: Michael Martin <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:23 pm
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MM:
Below is an excerpt from wikipedia.  I will comment on Edward
Herbert's teachings.  He was associated with the Wilton Cult and was son-in-law to William Herbert, a successor of William Shakespeare.

 
Early deism
Edward Herbert, portrait by Isaac Oliver (1560–1617)Lord Herbert of Cherbury (d. 1648) is generally considered the "father of English deism", and his book De Veritate (On Truth, as It Is Distinguished from Revelation, the Probable, the Possible, and the False) (1624) the first major statement of deism.[23][24]
MM:
Even the title as described is written cryptically, IMO.  Truth is the highest stage, so naturally it is distinguished from all lower truths, but mysticism can't be denied.
Early Deism continues:
Like his contemporary Descartes, Herbert searched for the foundations of knowledge. In fact, the first two thirds of De Veritate are devoted to an exposition of Herbert's theory of knowledge. Herbert distinguished truths obtained through experience, and through reasoning about experience, from innate truths and from revealed truths. Innate truths are imprinted on our minds, and the evidence that they are so imprinted is that they are universally accepted. Herbert's term for universally accepted truths was notitiae communes – common notions.
MM:
Naturally, innate truths are experienced through mysticism.
Revelations also occur as a result of the practice of mysticism.
 
Early Deism continues:
In the realm of religion, Herbert believed that there were five common notions.
* There is one Supreme God.
He ought to be worshipped.
Virtue and piety are the chief parts of divine worship.
We ought to be sorry for our sins and repent of them
Divine goodness doth dispense rewards and punishments both in this life and after it.

 
MM:
Prayer and meditation are the means to worship God, but Edward Herbert
had to write this cryptically.  He was calling on certain tributaries
and trying not to offen anyone, as far as possible.

 
Early Deism continues:
—Lord Herbert of Cherbury, The Antient Religion of the Gentiles, and
Causes of Their Errors, pp. 3–4, quoted in John Orr, English Deism, p.
62
It is worth quoting Herbert at some length, to give the flavor of his
writing. A sense of the importance that Herbert attributed to innate
Common Notions will help in understanding how devastating Locke's
attack on innate ideas was for Herbert's philosophy.
No general agreement exists concerning the Gods, but there is
universal recognition of God. Every religion in the past has
acknowledged, every religion in the future will acknowledge, some
sovereign deity among the Gods. ...
Accordingly that which is everywhere accepted as the supreme
manifestation of deity, by whatever name it may be called, I term God.
 
MM:
So, Edward Herbert has made the goal very clear.  Religions have been
started by the Perfect Mystic Adepts.  Obviously, one must conclude
that Herbert suggests to believe the teachings of the Perfect Mystic
Adepts.
Early Deism continues, quoting Edward Herbert:
While there is no general agreement concerning the worship of Gods,
sacred beings, saints, and angels, yet the Common Notion or Universal
Consent tells us that adoration ought to be reserved for the one God.
Hence divine religion— and no race, however savage, has existed
without some expression of it— is found established among all
nations. ...

 
MM:
Again, this reaffirms his belief that Perfect Mystic Adepts have
started the religions.  They tell us about a Supreme Being, who
created all, and who should be worshipped.

 
Early Deism continues, quoting Edward Herbert:
The connection of Virtue with Piety, defined in this work as the right
conformation of the faculties, is and always has been held to be, the
most important part of religious practice. There is no general
agreement concerning rites, ceremonies, traditions...; but there is
the greatest possible consensus of opinion concerning the right
conformation of the faculties. ... Moral virtue... is and always has
been esteemed by men in every age and place and respected in every land...
MM:
Reminds me of Ralph Waldo Emerson.  He called God as Virtue, also.  If
we are full of virtue and piety, what is the condition of our mind?
It is still.  It is concentrated.  It is humble.  All this related to
meditation or muses.

 
Early Deism continues, quoting Edward Herbert:
There is no general agreement concerning the various rites or
mysteries which the priests have devised for the expiation of sin....
General agreement among religions, the nature of divine goodness, and
above all conscience, tell us that our crimes may be washed away by
true penitence, and that we can be restored to new union with God. ...

 
MM:
Here he tells us to worship God with the goal of God-Realization.
That is exactly the same as taught by William Herbert, Philip Herbert,
Mary Sidney Herbert, and by William Shakespeare, himself.

 
Early Deism continues, quoting Edward Herbert:
 I do not wish to consider here whether any other more appropriate
means exists by which the divine justice may be appeased, since I have
undertaken in this work only to rely on truths which are not open to
dispute but are derived from the evidence of immediate perception and
admitted by the whole world. ...
MM:
Self-explanatory.  He doesn't want to step on anybody's toes.  He's
drawing on all seekers, all tributaries, to come to the truth.
Early Deism continues, quoting Edward Herbert:
The rewards that are eternal have been variously placed in heaven, in
the stars, in the Elysian fields... Punishment has been thought to lie
in metempsychosis, in hell,... or in temporary or everlasting death.
But all religion, law, philosophy, and ... conscience, teach openly or
implicitly that punishment or reward awaits us after this life. ... [T]
here is no nation, however barbarous, which has not and will not
recognise the existence of punishments and rewards. That reward and
punishment exist is, then, a Common Notion, though there is the
greatest difference of opinion as to their nature, quality, extent, and mode. ...
MM:
This is also congruent with the teachings of the Holy Bard, William Shakespeare.
Early Deism continues, quoting Edward Herbert:
It follows from these considerations that the dogmas which recognize a
sovereign Deity, enjoin us to worship Him, command us to live a holy
life, lead us to repent our sins, and warn us of future recompense or
punishment, proceed from God and are inscribed within us in the form of Common Notions. ...
MM:
Ditto.
Early Deism continues, quoting Edward Herbert:
Revealed truth exists; and it would be unjust to ignore it. But its
nature is quite distinct from the truth [based on Common Notions] ...
[T]he truth of revelation depends upon the authority of him who
reveals it. We must, then, proceed with great care in discerning what
actually is revealed.... [W]e must take great care to avoid deception,
for men who are depressed, superstitious, or ignorant of causes are
always liable to it. ...
MM:
Edward Herbert enjoins us to use our best discernment when choosing a
Master.  Some Masters are very high, while others are still within the
realm of sin, so the differences between the revelations of each
should be analyzed with great discernment.
Early Deism continues:
—Lord Herbert of Cherbury , De Veritate
According to Gay, Herbert had relatively few followers, and it was not
until the 1680s that Herbert found a true successor in Charles Blount
(1654–1693). Blount made one special contribution to the deist debate:
"by utilizing his wide classical learning, Blount demonstrated how to
use pagan writers, and pagan ideas, against Christianity. ... Other
Deists were to follow his lead."[25]
MM:
Oliver Cromwell, John Milton, and then came Charles Blount?
Interesting.
Michael Martin



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#10011 From: "Sid" <hear.shabd1@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:31 am
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Dear Master,


I was wondering about the time you described the 8th region as a twilight. I
thought that it was descriptionless and without such attributes? Thanks.

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#10010 From: "Mike" <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:40 pm
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> Unusual 17th century play critical of men sold
> (AP) – 2 days ago

> LONDON — A 17th-century play with an unusually critical take on men
> has sold at auction for 84,000 pounds ($140,000).


> Bonhams auction house says their staff uncovered a manuscript titled
> "Amazon" written by a close friend of leading 17th-century English
> poet John Donne in a trunk at Powis Castle in Wales.


> Bonhams spokesman Julian Roup says Lord Edward Herbert's play had a
> strong feminist theme.



MM:
There were two prominent feminists in those days.  Aemelia Lanyer
wrote "Eve's Apology In Defense Of Women."  Mary Sidney wrote "The
Tragedy of Antonie."  Mark Antony was a Master, and so was Cleopatra.
Here is a comment on Mary Sidney's "The Tragedy of Antonie:"

http://f99.middlebury.edu/FS013A/cleopatra_by_thayer.htm


The children in Mary Sidney's The Tragedy of Antonie are more symbols
than characters. They appear only once, just before Cleopatra dies of
grief, and have only two lines between them all, but over half of the
last act of the play is spent with Cleopatra addressing them,
bewailing their fate, counseling them, and looking toward their
safety. After they depart for a life of anonymity and orphanage,
Cleopatra cries, "Thy children thou, mine I, poor soul, have lost-/
And lost their father; more than them I wail:/ Lost this fair
realm" (Sidney 5.101-3). There is here an inherent linking of
motherhood to maternal feelings towards Egypt and her people. It makes
the utmost sense that Cleopatra would group Egypt in with her husband
and children, for they are the things that she holds dearest in all
the world. Like her children, upon her death Egypt too will be
orphaned, a ward to people who love it far less than Cleopatra does.
The meaning these sentiments are to convey is quite clear: a good
mother equals a good woman equals a good queen.


MM:
Not only that, but it is significant that Mary Sidney was a Master,
and she writes about two Masters here.



> The manuscript came to light after the castle's owner Edward Powis
> asked Bonhams to sort through and value some of his manuscripts.

> Bonhams research found that the play had been due to be performed
> before King James I and his court on New Year's Day in 1618, but it
> was canceled. It was sold to an unidentified buyer Tuesday.



MM:
Aemelia Lanyer and Mary Sidney were prominent Divine Feminines at this
particular time.


> Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.


Michael Martin

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#10009 From: Michael Martin <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:21 pm
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Unusual 17th century play critical of men sold
(AP) – 2 days ago
LONDON — A 17th-century play with an unusually critical take on men
has sold at auction for 84,000 pounds ($140,000).
Bonhams auction house says their staff uncovered a manuscript titled
"Amazon" written by a close friend of leading 17th-century English
poet John Donne in a trunk at Powis Castle in Wales.
Bonhams spokesman Julian Roup says Lord Edward Herbert's play had a
strong feminist theme.
The manuscript came to light after the castle's owner Edward Powis
asked Bonhams to sort through and value some of his manuscripts.
Bonhams research found that the play had been due to be performed
before King James I and his court on New Year's Day in 1618, but it
was canceled. It was sold to an unidentified buyer Tuesday.

 
Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.



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#10008 From: Michael Martin <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:52 pm
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(Bilingue) An Amazing Discovery With Ties To Sant Mat
 
Un Descubrimiento Asombroso Con Apegos Al Sendero
De Los Maestros
 
 
An old play supposedly written to be performed for King James I has been found in an attic of a castle in England.  The play was written by Edward Herbert.  Edward Herbert married the daughter of William Herbert.  She was his cousin.  Edward Herbert's mother's name was Magdalen.  I've posted that Countess Mary Sidney Herbert was the reincarnation of Mary Magdalene.  For those who don't know, William Herbert was one of the "incomparable brothers," who succeeded Master William Shakespeare.  Their mother was Countess Mary Sidney Herbert.
 
Una obra de teatro supuestamente escrito para performarse antes El Rey Jaime I ha sido encontrado en un atico de una castilla en La Iglaterra.  La obra fue escrito por Eduardo Herbert.  Eduardo Herbert se caso con la hija de Guillermo Herbert.  Ella era su prima.  La nombre de la madre de Eduardo Herbert era Magdalen.  Yo he publicado que La Contesa Maria Sidney Herbert era la reencarnacion de Maria Magdalena.  Para las que no saben, Eduardo Herbert era uno de "los hermanos incomparables," los quien sucedido El Maestro Guillermo Shakespeare.  La madre de ellos era La Contesa Maria Sidney Herbert.
 
The play is titled "The Amazon."  I have posted that two women succeeded the Master William Shakespeare.  The Countess Mary Sidney Herbert and Aemelia Lanyer.  Aemelia Lanyer was "the dark lady" mentioned many times in the sonnets of Master William Shakespeare.  The two women were Divine Feminines.  Then, the play might refer to them,  or possibly to the wife of Edward Herbert.  This discovery has, apparently, much to do with Sant Mat.  Both women were known as early feminists.
 
La obra se titulada "La Amazona."  Yo he publicado que dos mujeres sucedieron a El Maestro Guillermo Shakespeare.  La Contesa Maria Sidney Herbert y Aemelia Lanyer.  Aemelia Lanyer era "la dama oscura" menciono muchas veces en los sonetos del Maestro Guillermo Shakespeare.  Las dos mujeres eran Divinas Femininas.  Entonces, la obra puede referir a ellas, o posiblemente a la esposa de Eduardo Herbert.  Esta descubrimiento tiene, aparentement, mucho que ver con El Sendero de Los Maestros, yo creo.  Las dos mujeres fueron conocidas como feministas tempranas.
 
Much could be written about this, but I'll close for now.
 
Mucho puede estar escrito sobre esto, pero voy a acabar por ahora.
 
Miguel Martin
Michael Martin
 
 


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#10007 From: Michael Martin <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 5:41 pm
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MM:
It's difficult to translate all of Nostradamus' words.  The word "deceu," might have meant "disappointment."  Here is a definition from wordreference.com:
décevoir:
en español | in context | images
conjugator 
Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary © 2005 Oxford University Press:
décevoir /desəvwaʀ/ (conjugate⇒)
transitive verb
 
to disappoint;
to fail to fulfil (BrE) [hope].

Subscribe to the Oxford Concise or Unabridged dictionary for more translations, meanings and examples.

'décevoir' found in these entries:
French:
déçu
English:
disappoint - disappointment
décevoir: WordReference English-French Dictionary © 2009
Principal Translations
décevoir ⇒ (qn : désappointer) vtr disappoint (sb: let down)
 
Additional Translations:
décevoir (espoir, attentes) vtr disappoint (fail to meet expectations)
 
La Palabra "Deceu," posiblemente significa esto:
 
disappointment /'dɪsə'pɔɪntmənt/ sustantivo
  1. uncountable (emotion) desilusión f, decepción f
  1. countable (letdown) decepción f, chasco m
 


--- On Thu, 11/5/09, Michael Martin <kabir_75901@...> wrote:

From: Michael Martin <kabir_75901@...>
Subject: [Michael Martin Western Sat Guru] (Bilingue) Nostradamus Quatrain VII --- 35
To: michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com, radhasoamisatsangworld@yahoogroups.com, lightfromsoundoasis@yahoogroups.com, radhasoamistudies@yahoogroups.com, theosophy_talks_truth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 12:31 AM

 
VII --- 35  by Nostradamus
 
La grande poche viendra plaindre, pleurer,
D'auoir esleu : trompez seront en l'aage.
Guiere auec eux ne voudra demeurer :
Deceu sera par ceux de son langage.
 
The great fisherman will come to pity, to mourn,
To be heard alone: deception will be in the age.
He will hardly want to be with them:
Deception will be by those of his language.
 
El gran pescador vendra con piedad y lastimar,
Se oye solo: el engano sera en la edad.
Apenas el querera juntarse con ellos:
La decepcion estara por ellos de su lenguage.
 
It seems to be a reference to Jesus Christ, the great fisherman.  This must be a reference to a return of the Saviour, Jesus Christ.  The Bible says that a prophet won't be recognized in his own country.
 
Esto parece que se apunte hacia Jesus Cristo, el gran pescador.  Esto debe referirse a un regreso del Salvador, Jesus Cristo.  La Biblia dice que un profeta no se reconocera en su propio pais.
 
Michael Martin
Miguel Martin
 
 
 




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#10006 From: Michael Martin <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 6:31 am
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VII --- 35  by Nostradamus
 
La grande poche viendra plaindre, pleurer,
D'auoir esleu : trompez seront en l'aage.
Guiere auec eux ne voudra demeurer :
Deceu sera par ceux de son langage.
 
The great fisherman will come to pity, to mourn,
To be heard alone: deception will be in the age.
He will hardly want to be with them:
Deception will be by those of his language.
 
El gran pescador vendra con piedad y lastimar,
Se oye solo: el engano sera en la edad.
Apenas el querera juntarse con ellos:
La decepcion estara por ellos de su lenguage.
 
It seems to be a reference to Jesus Christ, the great fisherman.  This must be a reference to a return of the Saviour, Jesus Christ.  The Bible says that a prophet won't be recognized in his own country.
 
Esto parece que se apunte hacia Jesus Cristo, el gran pescador.  Esto debe referirse a un regreso del Salvador, Jesus Cristo.  La Biblia dice que un profeta no se reconocera en su propio pais.
 
Michael Martin
Miguel Martin
 
 
 



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#10005 From: Michael Martin <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 8:28 pm
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HELICANUS: Your griefs! for what? wrong not your prince you love.

First Lord: Wrong not yourself, then, noble Helicane;
But if the prince do live, let us salute him,
Or know what ground's made happy by his breath.
If in the world he live, we'll seek him out;
If in his grave he rest, we'll find him there;
And be resolved he lives to govern us,
Or dead, give's cause to mourn his funeral,
And leave us to our free election.

Second Lord: Whose death indeed's the strongest in our censure:
And knowing this kingdom is without a head,--
 
If the Master dies, it has a strong effect on us.  The Sangat needs a leader, otherwise it would wander in circles.
 
 
Si El Maestro se muera, nos afectara mucho.  El Sangart le faltara un lider, de otros modos se vagaran en los circulos.

 Like goodly buildings left without a roof
Soon fall to ruin,--your noble self,
That best know how to rule and how to reign,
We thus submit unto,--our sovereign.
 
Shakespeare tells us that the successor knows best for us, and he will keep the sangat going.  We should submit to the successor, of course.
 
Shakespeare nos dice que el sucesor sabe lo mejor por nosotros, y el mantendra el sangart en marcha.  Debemos nos someter al sucesor, por supuesto.


All: Live, noble Helicane!

HELICANUS: For honour's cause, forbear your suffrages:
If that you love Prince Pericles, forbear.
Take I your wish, I leap into the seas,
Where's hourly trouble for a minute's ease.
 
Shakespeare tells us, if we loved the Master, we should love the successor, also.  Helicanus says that to be a Master is an onerous task, for every minute's ease, there will be trouble for an hour.  Very beautifully described, and it indicates why Masters hesitate to become the New Master.
 
Shakespeare nos dice, si amamos el Maestro, tenemos que amar al sucesor, tambien.  Helicanus dice que ser un Maestro es un quehacer muy pesado, porque cada descanso de minuto, se seguira por molestias de una hora.  Muy hermosamente descrito, y nos indica porque los Maestros vacilan por tomar el oficio del Nuevo Maestro.

 A twelvemonth longer, let me entreat you to
Forbear the absence of your king:
If in which time expired, he not return,
I shall with aged patience bear your yoke.
 
Helicanus asks them not to suffer the absence of the Master for 12 months.  If he doesn't return, Helicanus will function as the New Master, and bear the karmas of the Sangat.
 
Helicanus nos pide que no sufra de la perdida del Maestro pur 12 meses.  Si el no regrese, Helicanus se funcionara como el Nuevo Maestro, y llevar los karmas del Sangart.

 But if I cannot win you to this love,
Go search like nobles, like noble subjects,
And in your search spend your adventurous worth;
Whom if you find, and win unto return,
You shall like diamonds sit about his crown.
 
Helicanus indicates that they can search for another successor, if they like.  He says that we can spend our karmas that way.  He indicates that they should find HIM, for he is the real successor, and then they can become diamonds in his crown.
 
Helicanus dice que en el caso que el no podria ganar el amor de los discipulos, los dice que buscar como los nobles, como nobles sujetos,  y en la busqueda gaste su valer aventurero; lo quien si lo encuentre, y gane a su regreso, ustedes como los diamantes se sentiran alrededor de su corona.
 
Helicanus nos indica que ellos pueden buscar por otro sucesor, si quieran.  El dice que podemos gastar nuestros karmas en esta manera.  El nos indica que debemos encontrar a EL, porque El es el verdadero sucesor, y luego ellos pueden convertirse en los diamantes de su corona.
 
Michael Martin
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#10004 From: Michael Martin <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 4:54 pm
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Hi Sid,
Thank you.  Yes, that is the purpose of our meditation.  I'll continue that, and I urge others to do it, also.  Blessings.
 
Michael Martin


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From: Sid <hear.shabd1@...>
Subject: [Michael Martin Western Sat Guru] Happy Birthday!
To: michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 6:53 AM

 
Happy Birthday Michael! I hope your day is full of Happiness and fun!

May God's awesome blessings
Be upon you this day
And for the future years ahead
May His blessings never fade
In every area of your life
May God abound much more
So you may be a fruitful vine
With the abundance of the Lord.



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Happy Birthday Michael! I hope your day is full of Happiness and fun!

May God's awesome blessings
Be upon you this day
And for the future years ahead
May His blessings never fade
In every area of your life
May God abound much more
So you may be a fruitful vine
With the abundance of the Lord.

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#10002 From: Michael Martin <kabir_75901@...>
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MM:
Pericles, Prince of Tyre.  Act 2, Scene 4
 
First Lord.
Wrong not yourself, then, noble Helicane;
But if the prince do live, let us salute him,
Or know what ground's made happy by his breath. 980
If in the world he live, we'll seek him out;
If in his grave he rest, we'll find him there;
And be resolved he lives to govern us,
Or dead, give's cause to mourn his funeral,
And leave us to our free election. 985
 
MM:
This is clearly written by the Master, Shakespeare.
 
If the Master lives, we should salute him.  He hints that even the ground is made happy by the Master.
 
If the Master is in the world, we should seek him out.
 
If the Master is dead (in his grave), that's where his dead body will be, BUT we should be resolved that he will still govern us.  Read that line over a couple of times.  Why will he govern us?  Because the Master was God in human form.  Christopher Marlowe was God in human form, also, and he still governs his disciples, as I've hinted recently.  The conclusion is, whether the Master is alive, or dead, he's governing us.  Why?  Because he is one with the Supreme Being.
Shakespeare further says that if the Master is dead, we will mourn him, but we will be left to free election.  Whom will we elect?  We will elect which successor to follow.  For example, Ben Jonson chose to follow Francis Bacon.
 
Michael Martin


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Date: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:02 pm
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Dear Sid,
Radha Soami.
 
Based on what Shakespeare wrote, Marc Antony and Cleopatra were Masters.  They must have had foresight and could see that their end was pending.  So, they chose to end their own lives.  Over and above the obvious worldly emotions, perhaps God told them that they had no more spiritual duties in this world.  If they had initiated the last sheep, then there was no reason to continue to live in this pigpen of a world.
 
It's possible that they had commissioned someone to succeed them, also.  Some texts have indicated a possible connection between them and the Gnostics.
 
Michael Martin


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Subject: [Michael Martin Western Sat Guru] Marc Antony
To: michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 9:05 AM

 
Dear Master,

Who was Marc Antony and why did he commit suicide if he was a Master? You also said that Cleopatra killed herself, and that God gives them the green light to do these things. I think I read that Marc killed himself because Cleopatra killed herself.



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Dear Master,

Who was Marc Antony and why did he commit suicide if he was a Master? You also
said that Cleopatra killed herself, and that God gives them the green light to
do these things. I think I read that Marc killed himself because Cleopatra
killed herself.

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Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:02 pm
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PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA has cast himself as a skeptic when it comes to sending more troops and has said he would ask "tough questions" of his advisers. Obama, who has described Afghanistan as a "war of necessity," told senior lawmakers in a recent White House meeting that he would neither substantially reduce U.S. troop levels in Afghanistan nor shift the strategy focus mainly on hunting militants, suggesting he is looking for a middle ground approach. Obama's aides have emphasized that his strategy deliberations will be guided by the overriding goal of defeating al Qaeda.
 
MM:
According to my meditation, America and its allies should withdraw from Afghanistan.  If there is a long, protracted war there, similar to Viet Nam, the casualties could reach into the millions.  Some "good" might be done there, but the "bad" repercussions could outweigh the good, according to my meditation.
 
Segun mi meditacion,  Norteamerica y sus amigos paises deberia quitarse de Afghanistan.  Si sea una guerra muy largo por alla, similar a la guerra en Viet Nam, los muertos puede alcanzar a las millones.  Algo "bueno" deberia hacer alla, pero el "malo" repercusiones puede superar a los buenos, segun mi meditacion.
 
There are a little more than 100,000 Allied troops in Afghanistan.  They could not hope to win a war with such a tiny number.  I'd urge President Obama to get them out of danger, ASAP.
 
Cuentan con un poquito mas de 100,000 soldados en Afghanistan.  Ellos no pueden esperar una victoria por guerra con tal numero tan poquito.  Yo deberia aconsejar al Presidente Obama para quitarselos del peligro, tan pronto como posible.
 
Michael Martin


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Alexander the Great went to Egypt and according to certain historians said, "I'm the Son of Zeus," or "I'm the Son of Ammon."  Ammon was an Egyptian God.  It is mentioned often on internet searches.  Alexander was in the line of Masters from Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle.
 
Alejandro el Maximo se fue al Egipto y segun los historianos dijo, "Estoy el Hijo de Zeus," o "Estoy el Hijo de Ammon."  Ammon era un Dios Egipto.  Ello mencionaba mucho en las busquedas en el internet.  Alexjandro era en la line de Maestros de Socrates, Platon, y Aristotle.
 
Miguel Martin
 
 


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon

The Sun is shifting its position one degree every 72 years, according to this article.  The alignment with the galactic center might have already occurred, as this article says it was most exact in 1998.  Since that time the Sun's relative position has shifted only .15 of a degree.  The Sun is only one-half degree wide, so this is a tiny amount.

El Sol se mueve su posicion un grado cada 72 anos, segun este articulo.  Este alineacion con el centro de la galaxia podia pasado ya, come este articulo dic que fue mas exacto en el ano 1998.  De este tiempo la posicion relativa del Sol se movio solamente .15 de un grado.  El Sol es de tamano solamente .5 grado, entonces este us un pequeno movimiento.

I think we can consider that the new cycle has already started.  It's very close to the date Sept. 1999, in which Nostradamus predicted that a Great King from heaven would appear on earth.  That is quatrain X-72.

Yo creo que podemos considerar que el nuevo ciclo ya ha empezado.  Esta muy cerca a la fecha Sept. 1999 en cual Nostradamus predijo que un Gran Rey del cielo apareceria en el mundo.  Este es cuarteta X-72.

If you scroll down, you will see mention of a "black hole alignment," and there is a black hole in the center of the galaxy.  God is at the center of everything.  Hopefully, the alignment with the black hole (God) will create a spiritual awakening on earth.

Mire abajo, puede usted ver discutido un "hoyo negro alineacion," y existe un hoyo negro en el centro de la galaxia.  El Dios esta en el centro de todo.  Ojala, la alineacion con el hoyo negro (Dios) creara una onda de la espiritualidad en el mundo.

Michael Martin
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--- In radhasoamisatsangworld@yahoogroups.com, Michael Martin <kabir_75901@...> wrote:
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> I think many of us have heard of this date.  According to the Mayan Calendar, it marks the end of a cycle, and the beginning of a new one.  The Sun will be aligned with the Galactic Center. 
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> Yo creo que muchos de nuestros han oido de esta fecha.  Segun el Calendario Mayan,  se empieza el fin de un ciclo, y el principio de un nuevo ciclo.  El Sol estara alineado con el Centro de La Galaxia.
>  
> I saw a program on History Channel today, which discussed this event.  The Hopi Indians also give it importance, and they basically see it as a negative event.  The Hindus were mentioned, and most of us know that we are in Kal Yuga.  Kal Yuga is the age of negativity.  Although most people think Kal Yuga is nowhere near its end, the increasing negativity is alarming, and the Supreme Being could call an end to the sinning at any time.  Leonardo Da Vinci saw a lot of suffering prior to the end of the world in his visions.
>  
> Yo lo vi un programa en el canal de la historia el dia de hoy, lo que discutio este evento.  Los Indios Hopis tambien lo dio importancia, and ellos basicamente lo ven como un evento negativo.  Los Hindus fueron mencionadas, y la mayoria de nosotros sabe que estamos en Kal Yuga en este momento.  Kal Yuga es la edad de la negatividad.  Aunque la mayoria de la gente piensa que Kal Yuga sea no cercano al fin, la creciente negatividad nos alarma, y El Ser Supremo podria poner fin a los pecados cuandoquiera.  Leonardo Da Vinci lo vi mucho sufrimiento antes del fin del mundo en sus visiones.
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> The sinful nature of the world has definitely been more negative in recent decades.  They say, if a nuclear war breaks out in the Northern Hemisphere, some 190 million could die in thirty minutes.  Those left would be living in a radioactive no-man's land.
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> La naturaleza pecador del mundo ha sido mas negativo definitivamente en las decadas recientes.  Ellos dicen que si una guerra estallaria en el hemisferio norte, algunas 190 millones de gente se matarian en 30 minutos.  Estos todavia viviente estaria en una tierra radioactiva de ningun hombre.
>  
> We have seen an increase, even in natural disasters, lately.  Why?  Only God knows why, but the fact is, if we continue sinning, we are going to have to reap our own crops.  The crops could come in the form of earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, etc., etc.  These events are not just happening at random.  There is a cause behind them.
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> Hemos visto un incremento, aun en los desastres naturales, recientemente.  Por que?  Solamente Dios sabe porque, pero el hecho es, si seguimos pecando, vamos a tener a cosechar nuestras propias cosechas.  Las consechas podrian venir en las formas de terremotos, tsunamis, huracanes, etc., etc.  Estos eventos nos son acontecimientos de casualidad.  Tenian una causa detras de ellos.
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> Everything is in God's hands.  Astrologically, the bad karmas could continue until the NEW CYCLE starts on Dec. 21, 2012.  I'm not saying that God couldn't end the world on that date.  He could.  That's up to him.  He can decide, if he wants to save us from self-destruction.  Other dangers, such as asteroids, are out there, and he will make decisions on them, also.
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> Todo es en las manos de Dios.  Astrologicamente, los karmas malos pueden seguir hasta que principie El Nuevo Ciclo en Dic. 21, 2012.  No yo digo que El Dios no podria poner fin al mundo en esta fecha.  El podria.  Es su decision.  El puede decidir, si el quiera salvarnos de la autodestruccion.  Otros peligros, tal como los asteroides, existen afuera, y el puede hacer las deciones con respecto a ellos, tambien.
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> A veces, es mas oscuro poquito antes de la madrugada.  Si podemos sobrevivir hasta que comienze El Nuevo Ciclo, luego quizas las circunstancis se hacen mas favorable?  Necesitamos a empezar vidas con mas amor y con menos odio.  Si queremos a cosechar buenas consechas, entonces deberiamos sembrar semillas buenas.
>  
> Michael Martin
> Miguel Martin
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--- In michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com, Michael Martin <kabir_75901@...> wrote:
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> I think many of us have heard of this date.  According to the Mayan Calendar, it marks the end of a cycle, and the beginning of a new one.  The Sun will be aligned with the Galactic Center. 
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> Yo creo que muchos de nuestros han oido de esta fecha.  Segun el Calendario Mayan,  se empieza el fin de un ciclo, y el principio de un nuevo ciclo.  El Sol estara alineado con el Centro de La Galaxia.
>  
> I saw a program on History Channel today, which discussed this event.  The Hopi Indians also give it importance, and they basically see it as a negative event.  The Hindus were mentioned, and most of us know that we are in Kal Yuga.  Kal Yuga is the age of negativity.  Although most people think Kal Yuga is nowhere near its end, the increasing negativity is alarming, and the Supreme Being could call an end to the sinning at any time.  Leonardo Da Vinci saw a lot of suffering prior to the end of the world in his visions.
>  
> Yo lo vi un programa en el canal de la historia el dia de hoy, lo que discutio este evento.  Los Indios Hopis tambien lo dio importancia, and ellos basicamente lo ven como un evento negativo.  Los Hindus fueron mencionadas, y la mayoria de nosotros sabe que estamos en Kal Yuga en este momento.  Kal Yuga es la edad de la negatividad.  Aunque la mayoria de la gente piensa que Kal Yuga sea no cercano al fin, la creciente negatividad nos alarma, y El Ser Supremo podria poner fin a los pecados cuandoquiera.  Leonardo Da Vinci lo vi mucho sufrimiento antes del fin del mundo en sus visiones.
>  
> The sinful nature of the world has definitely been more negative in recent decades.  They say, if a nuclear war breaks out in the Northern Hemisphere, some 190 million could die in thirty minutes.  Those left would be living in a radioactive no-man's land.
>  
> La naturaleza pecador del mundo ha sido mas negativo definitivamente en las decadas recientes.  Ellos dicen que si una guerra estallaria en el hemisferio norte, algunas 190 millones de gente se matarian en 30 minutos.  Estos todavia viviente estaria en una tierra radioactiva de ningun hombre.
>  
> We have seen an increase, even in natural disasters, lately.  Why?  Only God knows why, but the fact is, if we continue sinning, we are going to have to reap our own crops.  The crops could come in the form of earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, etc., etc.  These events are not just happening at random.  There is a cause behind them.
>  
> Hemos visto un incremento, aun en los desastres naturales, recientemente.  Por que?  Solamente Dios sabe porque, pero el hecho es, si seguimos pecando, vamos a tener a cosechar nuestras propias cosechas.  Las consechas podrian venir en las formas de terremotos, tsunamis, huracanes, etc., etc.  Estos eventos nos son acontecimientos de casualidad.  Tenian una causa detras de ellos.
>  
> Everything is in God's hands.  Astrologically, the bad karmas could continue until the NEW CYCLE starts on Dec. 21, 2012.  I'm not saying that God couldn't end the world on that date.  He could.  That's up to him.  He can decide, if he wants to save us from self-destruction.  Other dangers, such as asteroids, are out there, and he will make decisions on them, also.
>  
> Todo es en las manos de Dios.  Astrologicamente, los karmas malos pueden seguir hasta que principie El Nuevo Ciclo en Dic. 21, 2012.  No yo digo que El Dios no podria poner fin al mundo en esta fecha.  El podria.  Es su decision.  El puede decidir, si el quiera salvarnos de la autodestruccion.  Otros peligros, tal como los asteroides, existen afuera, y el puede hacer las deciones con respecto a ellos, tambien.
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> Sometimes, it is darkest before the dawn.  If we can survive until the NEW CYCLE starts, then maybe circumstances will get better?  We need to start being more loving and less hateful.  If we want to reap good crops, then we should sow good seeds.
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> A veces, es mas oscuro poquito antes de la madrugada.  Si podemos sobrevivir hasta que comienze El Nuevo Ciclo, luego quizas las circunstancis se hacen mas favorable?  Necesitamos a empezar vidas con mas amor y con menos odio.  Si queremos a cosechar buenas consechas, entonces deberiamos sembrar semillas buenas.
>  
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> Miguel Martin
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#9996 From: "Mike" <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:31 pm
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Dear Harpreet Singh,
I'll reply below:

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Radha Soami, Brother.

> 1st thanks for your comment on my chart.

You're welcome, Brother.

> dear master some time when i am sleeping after doing the meditation I feel electricity shok in my mind & body. I dont understand what is this. Can u please tell me what is this.
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> Radha Sowami.
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> Harpreet Singh

It is because the withdrawal is "new" to us, when this happens.  When the habit of withdrawal of the mind and soul from the cells and chakras becomes better established, the shocking feeling will vanish.  Mystic Adepts do not feel this, so it is just a matter of perfecting the concentration of the mind and soul.  The body has to get used to the withdrawal of consciousness.  Don't worry about it.  It fades out gradually, generally speaking.

Michael Martin


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> > To: michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com
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> > > I'd be very honored to receive your feeback, Master. Maybe you can give me tips from what you see?
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#9995 From: sabi Multani <sabimultani@...>
Date: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:07 pm
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Dear Master,

Radha Sowami.

1st thanks for your comment on my chart.

dear master some time when i am sleeping after doing the meditation I feel electricity shok in my mind & body. I dont understand what is this. Can u please tell me what is this.

Radha Sowami.

Harpreet Singh

To: michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com
From: kabir_75901@...
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:08:18 +0000
Subject: [Michael Martin Western Sat Guru] Re: Horoscope

 

Dear Harpreet Singh,
I'll make some additional comments on your chart.
Neptune conjunct Ascendent
This means that Neptune plays a big part in your personality.  Neptune is associated with mysticism, the realization of mystic truths.  This is a great aspect.

Moon conjunct Midheaven
This would indicate that you should deal with your destiny with your emotions.  Of course, keeping emotions under control is the best way.  Meditation helps us to do that.  Emotions are fine, if they are directed to Sat Guru Bhakti or Shabd Bhakti.

Sun square Jupiter
This aspect indicates an interest in Sat Gurus.  It indicates a desire to expand consciousness.

Sun conjunct Uranus
Uranus is a big player in your chart, as I already discussed.  It is in conjunction with Mercury, Venus, Mars, and the Sun.  Uranus tends to make us have an interest in mysticism and solutions unorthodox.  Uranus sometimes represents electricity, according to some astrologers, but could refer to the SHABD, as well.  Electricity has come from Shabd.
Michael Martin
--- In michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com, sabi Multani <sabimultani@...> wrote:
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> Dear Master,
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> Radha Sowami.
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> Can please tell me about my astrologi chart. Have any special for santmat in my chart.
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> My info is
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> 29th oct. 1978
> time between 10.00 to 10.30 am
> plase: City Dhuliya,
> State : Maharashtra,
> India.
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> Radha Sowami
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> Harpreet Singh
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> To: michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com
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> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:19:09 +0000
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> --- In michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com, "Sid" hear.shabd1@ wrote:
> >
> > Dear Master,
> >
> >
> > How are you doing? How has the Heavens been? I'm doing good. Earlier you said you could do an astrological report for me? I noticed that you've done it for others. I think you are pretty good at it and it's always a really nice thing for a guru to do IMO :).
>
> I'm all right, Sid. Thanks. The stars are according to his will. Yes, I use Astrodienst. They have a form, in which you type in the info, and then a chart is constructed. I did that with the info you gave me, and so now I have a chart in My Astro file for you. There was no problem, as they had the coordinates for Bhilai, India in the database already. It's called astro.com, if you want to visit that astrological website.
>
> > I've had a reading done for me by other astrological pundits and gurus before. But I'm sure they were just stepping stones to You. I myself believe that the planets can tell a story about someone, though I'm not an expert at the subject. But you are, and your knowledge of that language is very impressive :).
>
> I don't claim to be an astrologer, but my knowledge of the aspects, etc., could be superior to some, IMO. The ability to separate the wheat from the chaff helps.
>
> > I'd be very honored to receive your feeback, Master. Maybe you can give me tips from what you see?
>
> I'll make some comments, but it's late, and I want to do it justice, so I'll add more later.
>
> > I can give you some info, maybe it will be sufficient?
> >
> > I was born April 23, 1989 at 12:45 am.
> >
> > The location was in Bhilai, Chhattisgarh, India.
> >
> > I'm thinking that you might need the coordinates or something of that nature? This website might help:
> > http://stable.toolserver.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Bhilai&params=21.22_N_81.43_E_
> >
> > and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhilai
> >
> > Many thanks to you for your seva, it's greatly appreciated and I'm in debted to you.
> > Best Wishes,
> > Love Sid.
>
> First thing, Sid, the fact that you were born on Shakespeare's birthday is quite impressive. I think the Creator was sending us a message. It is also claimed that Shakespeare died that same date. Your connection with Shakespeare is VERY STRONG. This is more than just a parallel. It is mind-boggling, IMO.
>
> You were born with a Saturn/Neptune/Uranus TRIPLE CONJUNCTION in the twelfth house. This means you have a strong interest in Mysticism. Your Uranus is likewise very strong, which means you don't mind appearing unorthodox. You can be a trailblazer. Saturn is also very strong. Saturn means that your mystic inclinations bring you in touch with an OLDER TEACHER, and you're quite willing to follow spiritual disciplines.
>
> You were born with a Sun/Venus conjunction. This means you have a tremendous capability for Bhakti. You can love with intensity, and of course, this is a tremendous help in Sat Guru Bhakti or Shabd Bhakti. As a sidenote, your Sun and Shakespeare's Sun are at the same degree. So your Venus indicates that your bhakti is easily sent in the direction of William Shakespeare.
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> Also, I not that your Venus is 30 deg. from your Jupiter. Jupiter represents Sat Gurus, so the potential for Sat Guru Bhakti is there. Also, your natal Sun is close to 36 deg. from Jupiter, which forms a decile aspect. This also strengthens your incliations to learn from Sat Gurus.
>
> Your Mercury is in opposition to your moon. I consider this a positive for your emotions and intellect. They will be more in tune with one another, forming a nice balance.
>
> Your Sun is trine with Uranus. Your Venus is also trine with Uranus. This adds to the strength of all three planets. Venus is very helpful, as this is your love or bhakti. Your Venus is super powerful as it is in a triple conjunction and forms two trines.
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> Sid, I guess it's late, now, so we can think about these aspects, and when I get time, maybe I'll add some more comments.
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#9994 From: "Mike" <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:34 pm
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Dear Sid,

I noticed your Venus/Jupiter make a semi-sextile (30 deg.) aspect.  This is a fortunate aspect, as Venus represents Bhakti, and Jupiter represents the Master.  You should have inclinations to both.

Michael Martin
--- In michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <kabir_75901@...> wrote:
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>
>
> --- In michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com, "Sid"
> hear.shabd1@ wrote:
> >
> > Dear Master,
> >
> >
> > How are you doing? How has the Heavens been? I'm doing good. Earlier
> you said you could do an astrological report for me? I noticed that
> you've done it for others. I think you are pretty good at it and it's
> always a really nice thing for a guru to do IMO :).
>
> I'm all right, Sid. Thanks. The stars are according to his will. Yes,
> I use Astrodienst. They have a form, in which you type in the info, and
> then a chart is constructed. I did that with the info you gave me, and
> so now I have a chart in My Astro file for you. There was no problem,
> as they had the coordinates for Bhilai, India in the database already.
> It's called astro.com, if you want to visit that astrological website.
>
> > I've had a reading done for me by other astrological pundits and gurus
> before. But I'm sure they were just stepping stones to You. I myself
> believe that the planets can tell a story about someone, though I'm not
> an expert at the subject. But you are, and your knowledge of that
> language is very impressive :).
>
> I don't claim to be an astrologer, but my knowledge of the aspects,
> etc., could be superior to some, IMO. The ability to separate the wheat
> from the chaff helps.
>
> > I'd be very honored to receive your feeback, Master. Maybe you can
> give me tips from what you see?
>
> I'll make some comments, but it's late, and I want to do it justice, so
> I'll add more later.
>
> > I can give you some info, maybe it will be sufficient?
> >
> > I was born April 23, 1989 at 12:45 am.
> >
> > The location was in Bhilai, Chhattisgarh, India.
> >
> > I'm thinking that you might need the coordinates or something of that
> nature? This website might help:
> >
> http://stable.toolserver.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Bhilai&params=\
> 21.22_N_81.43_E_
> >
> > and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhilai
> >
> > Many thanks to you for your seva, it's greatly appreciated and I'm in
> debted to you.
> > Best Wishes,
> > Love Sid.
>
> First thing, Sid, the fact that you were born on Shakespeare's birthday
> is quite impressive. I think the Creator was sending us a message. It
> is also claimed that Shakespeare died that same date. Your connection
> with Shakespeare is VERY STRONG. This is more than just a parallel. It
> is mind-boggling, IMO.
>
> You were born with a Saturn/Neptune/Uranus TRIPLE CONJUNCTION in the
> twelfth house. This means you have a strong interest in Mysticism.
> Your Uranus is likewise very strong, which means you don't mind
> appearing unorthodox. You can be a trailblazer. Saturn is also very
> strong. Saturn means that your mystic inclinations bring you in touch
> with an OLDER TEACHER, and you're quite willing to follow spiritual
> disciplines.
>
> You were born with a Sun/Venus conjunction. This means you have a
> tremendous capability for Bhakti. You can love with intensity, and of
> course, this is a tremendous help in Sat Guru Bhakti or Shabd Bhakti.
> As a sidenote, your Sun and Shakespeare's Sun are at the same degree.
> So your Venus indicates that your bhakti is easily sent in the direction
> of William Shakespeare.
>
> Also, I not that your Venus is 30 deg. from your Jupiter. Jupiter
> represents Sat Gurus, so the potential for Sat Guru Bhakti is there.
> Also, your natal Sun is close to 36 deg. from Jupiter, which forms a
> decile aspect. This also strengthens your incliations to learn from Sat
> Gurus.
>
> Your Mercury is in opposition to your moon. I consider this a positive
> for your emotions and intellect. They will be more in tune with one
> another, forming a nice balance.
>
> Your Sun is trine with Uranus. Your Venus is also trine with Uranus.
> This adds to the strength of all three planets. Venus is very helpful,
> as this is your love or bhakti. Your Venus is super powerful as it is
> in a triple conjunction and forms two trines.
>
> Sid, I guess it's late, now, so we can think about these aspects, and
> when I get time, maybe I'll add some more comments.
>
> Love, Michael Martin
>


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#9993 From: "Mike" <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:24 pm
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Hi Tiggerlooks,

I'll make some additional comments on your chart.

Jupiter in Sidereal Sagittarius

This is a good placement for Jupiter.  It supposedly "rules" Sagittarius.  Jupiter represents Sat Gurus, so it's a good place for Sant Mat.


Venus/Jupiter Decile Aspect

These are the two "benefic" planets.  Great for Sant Mat.  Venus is Bhakti.  Jupiter is the Master.  They resonate well in your chart.


Mars/Saturn Square

This is an aspect, which seems difficult at times, but we learn a lot from it.  I have the Mars/Saturn conjunction in my chart, so I know.  Nostradamus had the same conjunction.  You have them in square, but the effects are the same, IMO.  It means your ambition will be to learn for older teachers, and you will not be afrain of concentrating the mind, or following a discipline.

Sun/Jupiter Semi-Nonagon

This is the 20 deg. aspect.  This, of course, bodes well for Sant Mat, and your personality should resonate well with a Sat Guru.

Michael artin
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> My Zodiac sign in Libra
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#9992 From: "Mike" <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:08 pm
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Dear Harpreet Singh,

I'll make some additional comments on your chart.

Neptune conjunct Ascendent

This means that Neptune plays a big part in your personality.  Neptune is associated with mysticism, the realization of mystic truths.  This is a great aspect.


Moon conjunct Midheaven

This would indicate that you should deal with your destiny with your emotions.  Of course, keeping emotions under control is the best way.  Meditation helps us to do that.  Emotions are fine, if they are directed to Sat Guru Bhakti or Shabd Bhakti.


Sun square Jupiter

This aspect indicates an interest in Sat Gurus.  It indicates a desire to expand consciousness.


Sun conjunct Uranus

Uranus is a big player in your chart, as I already discussed.  It is in conjunction with Mercury, Venus, Mars, and the Sun.  Uranus tends to make us have an interest in mysticism and solutions unorthodox.  Uranus sometimes represents electricity, according to some astrologers, but could refer to the SHABD, as well.  Electricity has come from Shabd.

Michael Martin

--- In michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com, sabi Multani <sabimultani@...> wrote:
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> Dear Master,
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> Radha Sowami.
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> Can please tell me about my astrologi chart. Have any special for santmat in my chart.
>
> My info is
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> 29th oct. 1978
> time between 10.00 to 10.30 am
> plase: City Dhuliya,
> State : Maharashtra,
> India.
>
> Radha Sowami
>
> Harpreet Singh
>
> To: michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com
> From: kabir_75901@...
> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:19:09 +0000
> Subject: [Michael Martin Western Sat Guru] Re: Horoscope
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> > Dear Master,
> >
> >
> > How are you doing? How has the Heavens been? I'm doing good. Earlier you said you could do an astrological report for me? I noticed that you've done it for others. I think you are pretty good at it and it's always a really nice thing for a guru to do IMO :).
>
> I'm all right, Sid. Thanks. The stars are according to his will. Yes, I use Astrodienst. They have a form, in which you type in the info, and then a chart is constructed. I did that with the info you gave me, and so now I have a chart in My Astro file for you. There was no problem, as they had the coordinates for Bhilai, India in the database already. It's called astro.com, if you want to visit that astrological website.
>
> > I've had a reading done for me by other astrological pundits and gurus before. But I'm sure they were just stepping stones to You. I myself believe that the planets can tell a story about someone, though I'm not an expert at the subject. But you are, and your knowledge of that language is very impressive :).
>
> I don't claim to be an astrologer, but my knowledge of the aspects, etc., could be superior to some, IMO. The ability to separate the wheat from the chaff helps.
>
> > I'd be very honored to receive your feeback, Master. Maybe you can give me tips from what you see?
>
> I'll make some comments, but it's late, and I want to do it justice, so I'll add more later.
>
> > I can give you some info, maybe it will be sufficient?
> >
> > I was born April 23, 1989 at 12:45 am.
> >
> > The location was in Bhilai, Chhattisgarh, India.
> >
> > I'm thinking that you might need the coordinates or something of that nature? This website might help:
> > http://stable.toolserver.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Bhilai&params=21.22_N_81.43_E_
> >
> > and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhilai
> >
> > Many thanks to you for your seva, it's greatly appreciated and I'm in debted to you.
> > Best Wishes,
> > Love Sid.
>
> First thing, Sid, the fact that you were born on Shakespeare's birthday is quite impressive. I think the Creator was sending us a message. It is also claimed that Shakespeare died that same date. Your connection with Shakespeare is VERY STRONG. This is more than just a parallel. It is mind-boggling, IMO.
>
> You were born with a Saturn/Neptune/Uranus TRIPLE CONJUNCTION in the twelfth house. This means you have a strong interest in Mysticism. Your Uranus is likewise very strong, which means you don't mind appearing unorthodox. You can be a trailblazer. Saturn is also very strong. Saturn means that your mystic inclinations bring you in touch with an OLDER TEACHER, and you're quite willing to follow spiritual disciplines.
>
> You were born with a Sun/Venus conjunction. This means you have a tremendous capability for Bhakti. You can love with intensity, and of course, this is a tremendous help in Sat Guru Bhakti or Shabd Bhakti. As a sidenote, your Sun and Shakespeare's Sun are at the same degree. So your Venus indicates that your bhakti is easily sent in the direction of William Shakespeare.
>
> Also, I not that your Venus is 30 deg. from your Jupiter. Jupiter represents Sat Gurus, so the potential for Sat Guru Bhakti is there. Also, your natal Sun is close to 36 deg. from Jupiter, which forms a decile aspect. This also strengthens your incliations to learn from Sat Gurus.
>
> Your Mercury is in opposition to your moon. I consider this a positive for your emotions and intellect. They will be more in tune with one another, forming a nice balance.
>
> Your Sun is trine with Uranus. Your Venus is also trine with Uranus. This adds to the strength of all three planets. Venus is very helpful, as this is your love or bhakti. Your Venus is super powerful as it is in a triple conjunction and forms two trines.
>
> Sid, I guess it's late, now, so we can think about these aspects, and when I get time, maybe I'll add some more comments.
>
> Love, Michael Martin
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#9991 From: "Mike" <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:18 am
Subject: [Michael Martin Western Sat Guru] Re: Horoscope 		kabir_75901
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Dear Harpreet Singh,

It's very late now.  I'll look at your chart tomorrow.  I took a quick look at it, already.  You have four planets in conjunction, Mercury, Venus, Mars, and Uranus.  This means that each planet is unusually strong.  It would help to create a sharp intellect, one which could separate the wheat from the chaff.  That's the Mercury effect.  Venus helps to make you at ease with your mind, your ambitions, and unusual circumstances, which you might face in life.  Mars gives you energy and strength.

Mercury, Venus, and Mars are like pereliminaries leading up to Uranus.  Uranus would be the actual mystic practice.  Uranus sometimes is volatile, and satsangis know that sometimes practice is exciting, but sometimes mind doesn't want to cooperate.  The Venus/Uranus conjunction means you should be interested in the actual practice of meditation.  You would not mind appearing unorthodox, in my opinion.

Your chart is very good for Sant Mat, IMO.

Michael Martin
--- In michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com, sabi Multani <sabimultani@...> wrote:
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> Dear Master,
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> Radha Sowami.
>
> Can please tell me about my astrologi chart. Have any special for santmat in my chart.
>
> My info is
>
> 29th oct. 1978
> time between 10.00 to 10.30 am
> plase: City Dhuliya,
> State : Maharashtra,
> India.
>
> Radha Sowami
>
> Harpreet Singh
>
> To: michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com
> From: kabir_75901@...
> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:19:09 +0000
> Subject: [Michael Martin Western Sat Guru] Re: Horoscope
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> > Dear Master,
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> > How are you doing? How has the Heavens been? I'm doing good. Earlier you said you could do an astrological report for me? I noticed that you've done it for others. I think you are pretty good at it and it's always a really nice thing for a guru to do IMO :).
>
> I'm all right, Sid. Thanks. The stars are according to his will. Yes, I use Astrodienst. They have a form, in which you type in the info, and then a chart is constructed. I did that with the info you gave me, and so now I have a chart in My Astro file for you. There was no problem, as they had the coordinates for Bhilai, India in the database already. It's called astro.com, if you want to visit that astrological website.
>
> > I've had a reading done for me by other astrological pundits and gurus before. But I'm sure they were just stepping stones to You. I myself believe that the planets can tell a story about someone, though I'm not an expert at the subject. But you are, and your knowledge of that language is very impressive :).
>
> I don't claim to be an astrologer, but my knowledge of the aspects, etc., could be superior to some, IMO. The ability to separate the wheat from the chaff helps.
>
> > I'd be very honored to receive your feeback, Master. Maybe you can give me tips from what you see?
>
> I'll make some comments, but it's late, and I want to do it justice, so I'll add more later.
>
> > I can give you some info, maybe it will be sufficient?
> >
> > I was born April 23, 1989 at 12:45 am.
> >
> > The location was in Bhilai, Chhattisgarh, India.
> >
> > I'm thinking that you might need the coordinates or something of that nature? This website might help:
> > http://stable.toolserver.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Bhilai&params=21.22_N_81.43_E_
> >
> > and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhilai
> >
> > Many thanks to you for your seva, it's greatly appreciated and I'm in debted to you.
> > Best Wishes,
> > Love Sid.
>
> First thing, Sid, the fact that you were born on Shakespeare's birthday is quite impressive. I think the Creator was sending us a message. It is also claimed that Shakespeare died that same date. Your connection with Shakespeare is VERY STRONG. This is more than just a parallel. It is mind-boggling, IMO.
>
> You were born with a Saturn/Neptune/Uranus TRIPLE CONJUNCTION in the twelfth house. This means you have a strong interest in Mysticism. Your Uranus is likewise very strong, which means you don't mind appearing unorthodox. You can be a trailblazer. Saturn is also very strong. Saturn means that your mystic inclinations bring you in touch with an OLDER TEACHER, and you're quite willing to follow spiritual disciplines.
>
> You were born with a Sun/Venus conjunction. This means you have a tremendous capability for Bhakti. You can love with intensity, and of course, this is a tremendous help in Sat Guru Bhakti or Shabd Bhakti. As a sidenote, your Sun and Shakespeare's Sun are at the same degree. So your Venus indicates that your bhakti is easily sent in the direction of William Shakespeare.
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> Also, I not that your Venus is 30 deg. from your Jupiter. Jupiter represents Sat Gurus, so the potential for Sat Guru Bhakti is there. Also, your natal Sun is close to 36 deg. from Jupiter, which forms a decile aspect. This also strengthens your incliations to learn from Sat Gurus.
>
> Your Mercury is in opposition to your moon. I consider this a positive for your emotions and intellect. They will be more in tune with one another, forming a nice balance.
>
> Your Sun is trine with Uranus. Your Venus is also trine with Uranus. This adds to the strength of all three planets. Venus is very helpful, as this is your love or bhakti. Your Venus is super powerful as it is in a triple conjunction and forms two trines.
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> Sid, I guess it's late, now, so we can think about these aspects, and when I get time, maybe I'll add some more comments.
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> Love, Michael Martin
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#9990 From: "Mike" <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:56 am
Subject: Re: (Bilingue) A Photo (I Was 16) --- Un Foto (Tenia 16 Anos) 		kabir_75901
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Dear Harpreet Singh,

I don't own any photos of Maharaj Ji and me,  but I've seen some taken by others.  One was at the Capitol Building in Washington, D.C., when Maharaj Ji was there in 1964.  I wasn't standing next to him, but I was there as he was touring.

Somebody snapped one of Maharaj Ji and me in Pasadena, Calif.  Maharaj was going from disciple to disciple giving mini-interviews.  We shook hands in the photo, as I recall.

Espanol:

Querido Harpreet Singh,

No estoy el dueno de algunos fotos de Maharaj Ji y Yo, pero yo he visto a algunos de los demas.  Uno fue cerca del Edificio Capitolio en Washington, Distrito Federal, cuando Maharaj estaba de gira en 1964.  Yo no estaba a pie junto a El, pero estaba yo ahi como el estaba de gira.

Alguno tomo un foto de Maharaj Ji y Yo en Pasadena, Calif.  Maharaj Ji iba de discipulo a discipulo dando mini-entrevistas.  Estabamos mano en mano en el foto, como yo lo recuerdo.

Michael Martin
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#9989 From: sabi Multani <sabimultani@...>
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Subject: RE: [Michael Martin Western Sat Guru] (Bilingue) A Photo (I Was 16) --- Un Foto (Tenia 16 Anos) 		sabimultanisabi
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Dear Master,

Radha Sowami ji.

Nice photo. Have you any more photo of you with Maharaj Charan Singh Ji.

Radha Sowami Ji

Harpreet singh

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:25:46 -0700
Subject: [Michael Martin Western Sat Guru] (Bilingue) A Photo (I Was 16) --- Un Foto (Tenia 16 Anos)

 
 
This photo was taken in 1960, some four years before I was initiated by Maharaj Ji Charan Singh Ji.  I'm the young fellow in the middle.
 
Este foto fue tomado en el ano 1960,  algunos cuatros anos antes de mi iniciacion por Maestro Charan Singh Ji.  Estoy el muchacho en el medio.
 
Michael Martin
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#9988 From: sabi Multani <sabimultani@...>
Date: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:35 am
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Dear Master,

Radha Sowami.

Can please tell me about my astrologi chart. Have any special for santmat in my chart.

My info is

29th oct. 1978
time between 10.00 to 10.30 am
plase: City Dhuliya,
State : Maharashtra,
India.

Radha Sowami

Harpreet Singh

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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:19:09 +0000
Subject: [Michael Martin Western Sat Guru] Re: Horoscope

 


--- In michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com, "Sid" <hear.shabd1@...> wrote:
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> Dear Master,
>
>
> How are you doing? How has the Heavens been? I'm doing good. Earlier you said you could do an astrological report for me? I noticed that you've done it for others. I think you are pretty good at it and it's always a really nice thing for a guru to do IMO :).

I'm all right, Sid.  Thanks.  The stars are according to his will.  Yes, I use Astrodienst.  They have a form, in which you type in the info, and then a chart is constructed.  I did that with the info you gave me, and so now I have a chart in My Astro file for you.  There was no problem, as they had the coordinates for Bhilai, India in the database already.  It's called astro.com, if you want to visit that astrological website.

> I've had a reading done for me by other astrological pundits and gurus before. But I'm sure they were just stepping stones to You. I myself believe that the planets can tell a story about someone, though I'm not an expert at the subject. But you are, and your knowledge of that language is very impressive :).

I don't claim to be an astrologer, but my knowledge of the aspects, etc., could be superior to some, IMO.  The ability to separate the wheat from the chaff helps.

> I'd be very honored to receive your feeback, Master. Maybe you can give me tips from what you see?

I'll make some comments, but it's late, and I want to do it justice, so I'll add more later.
 
> I can give you some info, maybe it will be sufficient?
>
> I was born April 23, 1989 at 12:45 am.
>
> The location was in Bhilai, Chhattisgarh, India.
>
> I'm thinking that you might need the coordinates or something of that nature? This website might help:
> http://stable.toolserver.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Bhilai&params=21.22_N_81.43_E_
>
> and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhilai
>
> Many thanks to you for your seva, it's greatly appreciated and I'm in debted to you.
> Best Wishes,
> Love Sid.

First thing, Sid, the fact that you were born on Shakespeare's birthday is quite impressive.  I think the Creator was sending us a message.  It is also claimed that Shakespeare died that same date.  Your connection with Shakespeare is VERY STRONG.  This is more than just a parallel.  It is mind-boggling, IMO.
You were born with a Saturn/Neptune/Uranus TRIPLE CONJUNCTION in the twelfth house.  This means you have a strong interest in Mysticism.  Your Uranus is likewise very strong, which means you don't mind appearing unorthodox.  You can be a trailblazer.  Saturn is also very strong.  Saturn means that your mystic inclinations bring you in touch with an OLDER TEACHER, and you're quite willing to follow spiritual disciplines.
You were born with a Sun/Venus conjunction.  This means you have a tremendous capability for Bhakti.  You can love with intensity, and of course, this is a tremendous help in Sat Guru Bhakti or Shabd Bhakti.  As a sidenote, your Sun and Shakespeare's Sun are at the same degree.  So your Venus indicates that your bhakti is easily sent in the direction of William Shakespeare.
Also, I not that your Venus is 30 deg. from your Jupiter.  Jupiter represents Sat Gurus, so the potential for Sat Guru Bhakti is there.  Also, your natal Sun is close to 36 deg. from Jupiter, which forms a decile aspect.  This also strengthens your incliations to learn from Sat Gurus.
Your Mercury is in opposition to your moon.  I consider this a positive for your emotions and intellect.  They will be more in tune with one another, forming a nice balance.
Your Sun is trine with Uranus.  Your Venus is also trine with Uranus.  This adds to the strength of all three planets.  Venus is very helpful, as this is your love or bhakti.  Your Venus is super powerful as it is in a triple conjunction and forms two trines.
Sid, I guess it's late, now, so we can think about these aspects, and when I get time, maybe I'll add some more comments.
Love, Michael Martin

 


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#9987 From: "Mike" <kabir_75901@...>
Date: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:23 pm
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Hi Tiggerlooks,

I'm short of time now.  I constructed your chart without the exact birth time.

There are three prominent features, IMO.

Sun/Neptune Conjuntion.  This aspect gives us a pull to mystic or spiritual desires.  It's great for Sant Mat.  It means we have a subconscious desire for something above the mundane

Mercury/Uranus Conjuntion.  This aspect means that one thinks in unorthodox ways, or seeks unusual solutions, and one is not afraid to appear as a trail-blazer.  Uranus gives the mind some volatility, but meditation can conquer that.

Moon/Saturn Conjunction.  This indicates that emotionally, we often tend to run into obstacles.  From a positive point of view, it means we are not afraid to follow an "older teacher."  Saturn represents disciplines, also, so this aspect is fine for those willing to follow Sant Mat.  In Sant Mat we need to conquer the emotions, which is not easy, but Saturn helps us to do that.

I have to go now.  Radha Soami.

Michael Martin


--- In michaelmartinwesternsatguru@yahoogroups.com, "tiggerlooks" <tiggerlooks@...> wrote:
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> RadhaSoami,
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> Dear Master Michael Martin,
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> I am fine here and hopes the same for you
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> I have seen your posts on horoscope.
>
> I, therefore like to reuiest to say on my horosocpe.
>
> My Zodiac sign in Libra
> and Date of birth is 20 december 1984
> and place is Delhi, INdia
>


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#9986 From: "tiggerlooks" <tiggerlooks@...>
Date: Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:35 pm
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RadhaSoami,

Dear Master Michael Martin,

I am fine here and hopes the same for you

I have seen your posts on horoscope.

I, therefore like to reuiest to say on my horosocpe.

My Zodiac sign in Libra
and Date of birth is 20 december 1984
and place is Delhi, INdia

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