Hi Karta,



Where did you find lasloacs? He was a nineteenth century political cartoonist

working in England, but yes, Hungarian I think. I like the sound of the name.



My thought isn't influenced by Judi in the sense I think you mean, ie I'm not

brainwashed by Judi, nor able to be. Judi speaks a lot of sense in my opinion,

and while I can see how others would be upset by her, she doesn't upset me (and

I'm as PC as they come in many respects,  what a redneck might well term

commie/pinko/hippy/fag :)). I'm also not able to detect hatred in her, from my

perspective. I agree with Greg that she can be crude, abrupt, insensitive

perhaps, but all this is intentional as far as I can tell, aimed at the small

self. Dr D does seem to me to be a different kettle of fish; aggressive and

misguided in a way that Judi isn't.



Grant.



> ** Original Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: mind trick /Grant

> ** Original Sender: "satkartar7 <mi_nok@...>" <mi_nok@...>

> ** Original Date: 1 Mar 2003 16:31:47 -0000



> ** Original Message follows...



>

> --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, bardsley@c... wrote:

> > Hi Karta,

> >

> > I'm on the ranch list and I don't recognise myself in your description. It's

clear that you don't like Judi which is fine of course; everyone has their own

preferences to which they're entitled. It seems unecessary and inaccurate to

characterise all the members of the ranch list as a homogenous, perhaps

homophobic/misogynist mass, though. I'm not homophobic nor misogynist and have

thankfully never had to solict Judi's advice to tell the difference between my

arse and my mouth.

> >

> > Grant.

>

> you see Grant, to singe up for a

> list doesn't mean that one learns

> the gutter language spoken there,

> neither, that one turns into a

> homophobic prejudice disliking woman

>  too

>

> but it influences ones thought,

> specially of the owner of the list

> simplifies thought and than in a army

> boot-camp style drills by repeating

> these simplified idiocities untill one

>  belives them as truth

>

> Than instead of having an *awareness*

>  based on ones own observations: on

>  reality one begins to view everything

>  mutated from the whole picture to

> the 'SIDE' of a rhetoric acepted and consciousness than becomes out of

> balance

>

>    love, Karta

>

> Laszlo Acs is a Hngarian name..

> lasloacs

> <smiles>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Karta: We should not worry about belonging

> > to a small percentage of the populous;

> >  there are even smaller % groups,

> > like the club of the Elite Ranch

> > members of 120, with special

> > *understanding* how to reach the

> > BOTTOM Enlightenment; who are thought

> >  where their bottom is and to

> > differentiate between their mouth

> > and asses by the enlightening Light

> > of their Grand Master: the Reverend

> >  Jiving First Ass.

> >

> > To this tribe woman gays and those

> > in pink attire should not apply: they

> >  are not among the chosen ones

> >

> > ---hehehe Hoaha Karta

> > ex cult-member of

> > TheEndOfTheRopeRanch

>

>

>

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>

--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, bardsley@c... wrote:

> Hi Karta,

>

> Where did you find lasloacs? He was a nineteenth century political cartoo=

nist working in England, but yes, Hungarian I think. I like the sound of the=

  name.



K: ács means carpenter in Hungarian



<smiles>



>

> My thought isn't influenced by Judi

> in the sense I think you mean, ie I'm

> not brainwashed by Judi, nor able to be.





K: yes, I noticed that Grant.







G: Judi speaks a lot of sense in my

opinion, and while I can see how others

  would be upset by her, she doesn't

upset me



K: no need to be upset it is just

a boring repetitious symplistic BS



G: (and I'm as PC as they come in many respects,  what a redneck might well=

  term commie/pinko/hippy/fag :)).



K: now! "pinko" LOL a whole new PINK?

  i never heard this one we called

"pink" the non-red communist like

Jugislavians back than...





G: I'm also not able to detect hatred in her, from my perspective. I agree =

with Greg that she can be crude, abrupt, insensitive perhaps, but all this i=

s intentional as far as I can tell, aimed at the small self.





K: well, not everybody is looking for

  being reminded to the noble idea of

  Ramana to do vichara by being atatcked

  out of the blue in guther language



---love,

    Karta



G: Dr D does seem to me to be a different kettle of fish; aggressive and mi=

sguided in a way that Judi isn't.





>

> Grant.

>

> > ** Original Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: mind trick /Gr=

ant

> > ** Original Sender: "satkartar7 <mi_nok@y...>" <mi_nok@y...>

> > ** Original Date: 1 Mar 2003 16:31:47 -0000

>

> > ** Original Message follows...

>

> >

> > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, bardsley@c... wrote:=



> > > Hi Karta,

> > >

> > > I'm on the ranch list and I don't recognise myself in your descriptio=

n. It's clear that you don't like Judi which is fine of course; everyone has=

  their own preferences to which they're entitled. It seems unecessary and in=

accurate to characterise all the members of the ranch list as a homogenous, =

perhaps homophobic/misogynist mass, though. I'm not homophobic nor misogynis=

t and have thankfully never had to solict Judi's advice to tell the differen=

ce between my arse and my mouth.

> > >

> > > Grant.

> >

> > you see Grant, to singe up for a

> > list doesn't mean that one learns

> > the gutter language spoken there,

> > neither, that one turns into a

> > homophobic prejudice disliking woman

> >  too

> >

> > but it influences ones thought,

> > specially of the owner of the list

> > simplifies thought and than in a army

> > boot-camp style drills by repeating

> > these simplified idiocities untill one

> >  belives them as truth

> >

> > Than instead of having an *awareness*

> >  based on ones own observations: on

> >  reality one begins to view everything

> >  mutated from the whole picture to

> > the 'SIDE' of a rhetoric acepted and consciousness than becomes out of =



> > balance

> >

> >    love, Karta

> >

> > Laszlo Acs is a Hngarian name..

> > lasloacs

> > <smiles>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Karta: We should not worry about belonging

> > > to a small percentage of the populous;

> > >  there are even smaller % groups,

> > > like the club of the Elite Ranch

> > > members of 120, with special

> > > *understanding* how to reach the

> > > BOTTOM Enlightenment; who are thought

> > >  where their bottom is and to

> > > differentiate between their mouth

> > > and asses by the enlightening Light

> > > of their Grand Master: the Reverend

> > >  Jiving First Ass.

> > >

> > > To this tribe woman gays and those

> > > in pink attire should not apply: they

> > >  are not among the chosen ones

> > >

> > > ---hehehe Hoaha Karta

> > > ex cult-member of

> > > TheEndOfTheRopeRanch