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#16745

From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Sat Aug 8, 2009 1:13 pm
Subject: The Hardest Meditation Techniques

Back in the 60's and 70's many people came to

know first hand that taking drugs was

a very hard way to evolve in consciousness.

The psychedelic drugs would reveal previously

unknown perceptions of reality, and that may

be perceived as being "good" (good being

defined as those things which bring or

maintain your peace), but then the drugs

would take you away from your peace by

thrusting you from here to there without your

having control. Of course, our senses, minds,

and emotions do this all the time, but at a

pace where, with meditative/yogic/spiritual/etc

training, we can have some degree of self-control

and stop the flow of changes and redirect our

attention elsewhere if we deem it appropriate.

LSD, peyote, etc take this ability away unless we

become very familiar with their activity and if

we have a "Guide" (inner or outer) to lead us

through the turbulence. This makes drug-use one

of the most challenging types of Meditation or Yoga.



During the many classes we shared in adult education

classes we found one technique the "hardest". This

was simply to refrain from voicing negativity in

any way for an hour. And if you succeeded, try it

for longer and longer periods of time. If this seems

easy (or just for a revealing understanding of what

you habitually do), try it yourself. It's not only "hard",

but very educational!

Peace and blessings,

Bob

#16747

From: sean tremblay <bethjams9@...>
Date: Sat Aug 8, 2009 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The Hardest Meditation Techniques

bethjams9

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And How!!

--- On Sat, 8/8/09, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Meditation Society of America] The Hardest Meditation Techniques
To: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 9:13 AM

Back in the 60's and 70's many people came to
know first hand that taking drugs was
a very hard way to evolve in consciousness.
The psychedelic drugs would reveal previously
unknown perceptions of reality, and that may
be perceived as being "good" (good being
defined as those things which bring or
maintain your peace), but then the drugs
would take you away from your peace by
thrusting you from here to there without your
having control. Of course, our senses, minds,
and emotions do this all the time, but at a
pace where, with meditative/yogic/ spiritual/ etc
training, we can have some degree of self-control
and stop the flow of changes and redirect our
attention elsewhere if we deem it appropriate.
LSD, peyote, etc take this ability away unless we
become very familiar with their activity and if
we have a "Guide" (inner or outer) to lead us
through the turbulence. This makes drug-use one
of the most challenging types of Meditation or Yoga.

During the many classes we shared in adult education
classes we found one technique the "hardest". This
was simply to refrain from voicing negativity in
any way for an hour. And if you succeeded, try it
for longer and longer periods of time. If this seems
easy (or just for a revealing understanding of what
you habitually do), try it yourself. It's not only "hard",
but very educational!
Peace and blessings,
Bob

#16748

From: Sandeep <sandeep1960@...>
Date: Sun Aug 9, 2009 2:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The Hardest Meditation Techniques

sandeep1960

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Hi Bob,

The really difficult meditation is to see responses, actions arising out of an identification with this spectacle.....

.....aka obligations, responsibilities, conforming to societal norms, and the consequent results, impacts.....

.......both the good and the bad ....

... the whole enchilada.......

.....and know that all along the whole enchilada is a mere spectacle...

..... while the spectacle is getting played out exactly as it does.

For example ....to be a parent....... with the entirety of what parenthood entails..........while knowing that it's all puff.

In the midst of the impositions of the market place........to be the serenity of a mountain top seat.

..

medit8ionsociety wrote:

Back in the 60's and 70's many people came to
know first hand that taking drugs was
a very hard way to evolve in consciousness.
The psychedelic drugs would reveal previously
unknown perceptions of reality, and that may
be perceived as being "good" (good being
defined as those things which bring or
maintain your peace), but then the drugs
would take you away from your peace by
thrusting you from here to there without your
having control. Of course, our senses, minds,
and emotions do this all the time, but at a
pace where, with meditative/yogic/spiritual/etc
training, we can have some degree of self-control
and stop the flow of changes and redirect our
attention elsewhere if we deem it appropriate.
LSD, peyote, etc take this ability away unless we
become very familiar with their activity and if
we have a "Guide" (inner or outer) to lead us
through the turbulence. This makes drug-use one
of the most challenging types of Meditation or Yoga.

During the many classes we shared in adult education
classes we found one technique the "hardest". This
was simply to refrain from voicing negativity in
any way for an hour. And if you succeeded, try it
for longer and longer periods of time. If this seems
easy (or just for a revealing understanding of what
you habitually do), try it yourself. It's not only "hard",
but very educational!
Peace and blessings,
Bob

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