One of the most common emails the

Meditation Society of America gets

asks for advice on which books are

the best dealing with meditation.

We had several this week and also

received an email from the Divya

Jivan Newsletter that pointed to

one answer to this question. We'll

let these quotes speak for themselves:



"When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and

reflace about how God created this

universe everything else seems so superfluous."

Albert Einstein



"The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to

dedicate body, mind and soul

to pure duty and not to become mental

voluptuaries at the mercy of

random desires and undisciplined impulses."

Mahatma Gandhiji



"The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement

of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.

It is one of the most clear and comprehensive

summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;

hence its enduring value is subject not only to

India but to all of humanity."

Aldous Huxley



"The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the

human race a living creation rather than a book,

with a new message for every age and a

new meaning for every civilization."

Sri Aurobindo



"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the

stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the

Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern

world and its literature seems puny and trivial."

Henry David Thoreau



"The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly

beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which

enables philosophy to blossom into religion."

Herman Hesse



"The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the

spiritual foundation of human existence. It is

a call of action to meet the obligations and

duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual

nature and grander purpose of the universe."

Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru



"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.

It was the first of books; it was as if an empire

spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,

but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an

old intelligence which in another age and climate

had pondered and thus disposed of the same

questions which exercise us."

Ralph Waldo Emerson



"The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought

and in its philosophical teachings Krishna

has all the attributes of the full-fledged

montheistic deity and at the same time the

attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."

Ralph Waldo Emerson



"In order to approach a creation as sublime

as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding

it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -

Rudolph Steiner



"The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the

Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam

fully reveals the true import of this doctrine

which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal

of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may

think that they are advised to engage in

warfare. When the second chapter has been read

it can be clearly understood that knowledge and

the soul is the ultimate goal to be

attained. On studying the third chapter it is

apparent that acts of righteousness are also of

high priority. If we continue and patiently

take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and

try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter

we can see that the ultimate conclusion

is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas

of religion which we possess and fully surrender

directly unto the Supreme Lord."

Sri Swami Prabhupada



"The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

actions without any fruitive desires is taught

by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."

Swami Vivekananda



"The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to

reveal the science of devotion to God which is the

essence of all spiritual knowledge. The

Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending

and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac

and negative, undesirable influences that are

opposed to spiritual development, yet

simultaneously it is His incomparable intention

to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."

Sri Ramanuja



"Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal

or external, that the Gita has not made clear

and enabled me to deal with or understand."

Swami Nirmalananda Giri



"When doubts haunt me, when disappointments

stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of

hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and

find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin

to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those

who meditate on the Gita will

derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."

Mahatma Gandhiji



"From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all

the goals of human existence become fulfilled.

Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence

of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."

Adi Sankara



"The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

actions without any fruitive desires is taught

by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -

Swami Vivekananda



"The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to

His devotee Arjuna."

Paramahansa Yogananda



"The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on

the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God

which is manifested by actions."

Dr. Albert Schweizer

--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn Plaine"

<gplaine@...> wrote:

>

> So, the Gita?

>

Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best

(along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).

My favorite translation and commentary

will be found in this version:

The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita

Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda

Many other "Best" books can be found on our

Suggested Reading list:

http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html

Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:

Essential Writings on Nonduality

ONE

Edited by Jerry Katz

and I would include one of the truly classic

treasures to be:

I AM THAT,

Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj



But...I really think that there is no book

that can do as much for your understanding of

meditation and help your evolution in

consciousness as actually meditating.

Peace and blessings,

Bob



> On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:

>

> >   One of the most common emails the

> > Meditation Society of America gets

> > asks for advice on which books are

> > the best dealing with meditation.

> > We had several this week and also

> > received an email from the Divya

> > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to

> > one answer to this question. We'll

> > let these quotes speak for themselves:

> >

> > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > reflace about how God created this

> > universe everything else seems so superfluous."

> > Albert Einstein

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to

> > dedicate body, mind and soul

> > to pure duty and not to become mental

> > voluptuaries at the mercy of

> > random desires and undisciplined impulses."

> > Mahatma Gandhiji

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement

> > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.

> > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive

> > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;

> > hence its enduring value is subject not only to

> > India but to all of humanity."

> > Aldous Huxley

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the

> > human race a living creation rather than a book,

> > with a new message for every age and a

> > new meaning for every civilization."

> > Sri Aurobindo

> >

> > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the

> > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the

> > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern

> > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."

> > Henry David Thoreau

> >

> > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly

> > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which

> > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."

> > Herman Hesse

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the

> > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is

> > a call of action to meet the obligations and

> > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual

> > nature and grander purpose of the universe."

> > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

> >

> > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.

> > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire

> > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,

> > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an

> > old intelligence which in another age and climate

> > had pondered and thus disposed of the same

> > questions which exercise us."

> > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought

> > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna

> > has all the attributes of the full-fledged

> > montheistic deity and at the same time the

> > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."

> > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> >

> > "In order to approach a creation as sublime

> > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding

> > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -

> > Rudolph Steiner

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the

> > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam

> > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine

> > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal

> > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may

> > think that they are advised to engage in

> > warfare. When the second chapter has been read

> > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and

> > the soul is the ultimate goal to be

> > attained. On studying the third chapter it is

> > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of

> > high priority. If we continue and patiently

> > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter

> > we can see that the ultimate conclusion

> > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas

> > of religion which we possess and fully surrender

> > directly unto the Supreme Lord."

> > Sri Swami Prabhupada

> >

> > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."

> > Swami Vivekananda

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to

> > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the

> > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The

> > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending

> > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac

> > and negative, undesirable influences that are

> > opposed to spiritual development, yet

> > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention

> > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."

> > Sri Ramanuja

> >

> > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal

> > or external, that the Gita has not made clear

> > and enabled me to deal with or understand."

> > Swami Nirmalananda Giri

> >

> > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments

> > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of

> > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and

> > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin

> > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those

> > who meditate on the Gita will

> > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."

> > Mahatma Gandhiji

> >

> > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all

> > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.

> > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence

> > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."

> > Adi Sankara

> >

> > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -

> > Swami Vivekananda

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to

> > His devotee Arjuna."

> > Paramahansa Yogananda

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on

> > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God

> > which is manifested by actions."

> > Dr. Albert Schweizer

> >

> >

> >

>

--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn Plaine"
<gplaine@...> wrote:
>
> So, the Gita?
>
Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
(along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
My favorite translation and commentary
will be found in this version:
The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
Many other "Best" books can be found on our
Suggested Reading list:
http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html
Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
Essential Writings on Nonduality
ONE
Edited by Jerry Katz
and I would include one of the truly classic
treasures to be:
I AM THAT,
Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

But...I really think that there is no book
that can do as much for your understanding of
meditation and help your evolution in
consciousness as actually meditating.
Peace and blessings,
Bob

> On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
>
> > One of the most common emails the
> > Meditation Society of America gets
> > asks for advice on which books are
> > the best dealing with meditation.
> > We had several this week and also
> > received an email from the Divya
> > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
> > one answer to this question. We'll
> > let these quotes speak for themselves:
> >
> > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > reflace about how God created this
> > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
> > Albert Einstein
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
> > dedicate body, mind and soul
> > to pure duty and not to become mental
> > voluptuaries at the mercy of
> > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
> > Mahatma Gandhiji
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
> > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
> > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
> > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
> > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
> > India but to all of humanity."
> > Aldous Huxley
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
> > human race a living creation rather than a book,
> > with a new message for every age and a
> > new meaning for every civilization."
> > Sri Aurobindo
> >
> > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
> > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
> > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
> > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
> > Henry David Thoreau
> >
> > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
> > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
> > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
> > Herman Hesse
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
> > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
> > a call of action to meet the obligations and
> > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
> > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
> > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
> >
> > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
> > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
> > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
> > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
> > old intelligence which in another age and climate
> > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
> > questions which exercise us."
> > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
> > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
> > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
> > montheistic deity and at the same time the
> > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
> > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> >
> > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
> > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
> > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
> > Rudolph Steiner
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
> > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
> > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
> > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
> > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
> > think that they are advised to engage in
> > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
> > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
> > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
> > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
> > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
> > high priority. If we continue and patiently
> > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
> > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
> > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
> > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
> > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
> > Sri Swami Prabhupada
> >
> > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
> > Swami Vivekananda
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
> > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
> > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
> > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
> > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
> > and negative, undesirable influences that are
> > opposed to spiritual development, yet
> > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
> > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
> > Sri Ramanuja
> >
> > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
> > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
> > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
> > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
> >
> > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
> > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
> > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
> > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
> > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
> > who meditate on the Gita will
> > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
> > Mahatma Gandhiji
> >
> > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
> > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
> > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
> > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
> > Adi Sankara
> >
> > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
> > Swami Vivekananda
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
> > His devotee Arjuna."
> > Paramahansa Yogananda
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
> > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
> > which is manifested by actions."
> > Dr. Albert Schweizer
> >
> >
> >
>

sean tremblay <bethjams9@...> wrote:

>

> It's been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing

through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife's

required reading for her yoga training.  I would have to agree with

Gwyn that it seems at least on surface to be a work more concerned

with behavior than spirituality or meditation ...



snip below



The deal here is that many translations are very

hard for Americans to "get". That's one main reason

why I point to Swami Satchidananda's translation. His

Americanized English is pretty clear. One aspect of this

"war story" is that it can be seen to be pointing to the

enemy that is within our mind...greed, hate, anger,

jealousy, etc and that's what we really need to fight.

Raja Yoga is the Yoga of Meditation and it has 8 steps.

Here's the Wikipedia take on them.

The eight limbs of Ashtanga (Raja) Yoga are:



     * Yama - Code of conduct - self-restraint

     * Niyama - religious observances - commitments

       to practice, such as study and devotion

     * Āsana - integration of mind and body

       through physical activity

     * Pranayama - regulation of breath leading

       to integration of mind and body

     * Pratyahara - abstraction of the senses,

       withdrawal of the senses of perception from their objects

     * Dharana - concentration, one-pointedness of mind

     * Dhyana - meditation (quiet activity that

       leads to samadhi)

     * Samadhi - the quiet state of blissful

       awareness, superconscious state



As you can see, meditation has 6 steps before it can

take place. Even just being able to concentrate will

not happen without self-restraint, study, control of

the mind and senses, etc. So if seen as a course in

getting enough self control to meditate,the Gita is

quite a guidebook.Everyone has something that is the

main way that they become distracted when meditating.

For some it can be their emotions, others their bodily

reactivity, and many their mind chatter. That's the war

that we need to wage. And seeing Krishna as the Divine

identity within us and Arjuna as our "normal" mind/ego,

the Gita and its directions on how life should be faced

will well take us to where we must be for meditation to

flow us into Samadhi.

And in any event, it's a bit better than any Rambo movie

if war stories are your thing.

Peace and blessings,

Bob





but I didn't get down to the gnats ass of it.  When I first read it I

think I was looking at it from a historical or anthropological view a

curiosity such as reading the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Icelandic

chronicles and I considered it interesting from that point.  As an

American and as a bit of an Anarchist in spirit I found the concepts

of total abandonment of self to one duty or station in life to be a

hard pill to swallow especial;y since I am a strong believer in the

individuals choice for "Good" works especially when it come to making

the choice for or against WAR, Violence, Killing ect...Or how we

define the way in which we operate in this world IE what our

>  calling is and how we choose to fulfill it. So when Krishna and

Arjuna are poised and ready at the battle field and Arjuna expresses

his doubt I can't help but think of Pakistan and India poised on the

border of Kashmir both parties brandishing the Nuke option One side

believing in Karmic predestination The other  in Gods righteous fury

and quite frankly that scares the Bjesus outta me.  I might be reading

it wrong but as a piece of literature I still enjoyed as a portal into

the mind of an ancient

>    culture

>

> medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>           --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn

Plaine"

> <gplaine@> wrote:

> >

> > So, the Gita?

> >

> Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best

> (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).

> My favorite translation and commentary

> will be found in this version:

> The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita

> Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda

> Many other "Best" books can be found on our

> Suggested Reading list:

> http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html

> Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:

> Essential Writings on Nonduality

> ONE

> Edited by Jerry Katz

> and I would include one of the truly classic

> treasures to be:

> I AM THAT,

> Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

>

> But...I really think that there is no book

> that can do as much for your understanding of

> meditation and help your evolution in

> consciousness as actually meditating.

> Peace and blessings,

> Bob

>

> > On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>

> wrote:

> >

> > > One of the most common emails the

> > > Meditation Society of America gets

> > > asks for advice on which books are

> > > the best dealing with meditation.

> > > We had several this week and also

> > > received an email from the Divya

> > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to

> > > one answer to this question. We'll

> > > let these quotes speak for themselves:

> > >

> > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > reflace about how God created this

> > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."

> > > Albert Einstein

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to

> > > dedicate body, mind and soul

> > > to pure duty and not to become mental

> > > voluptuaries at the mercy of

> > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."

> > > Mahatma Gandhiji

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement

> > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.

> > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive

> > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;

> > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to

> > > India but to all of humanity."

> > > Aldous Huxley

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the

> > > human race a living creation rather than a book,

> > > with a new message for every age and a

> > > new meaning for every civilization."

> > > Sri Aurobindo

> > >

> > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the

> > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the

> > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern

> > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."

> > > Henry David Thoreau

> > >

> > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly

> > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which

> > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."

> > > Herman Hesse

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the

> > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is

> > > a call of action to meet the obligations and

> > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual

> > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."

> > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

> > >

> > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.

> > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire

> > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,

> > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an

> > > old intelligence which in another age and climate

> > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same

> > > questions which exercise us."

> > > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought

> > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna

> > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged

> > > montheistic deity and at the same time the

> > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."

> > > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > >

> > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime

> > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding

> > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -

> > > Rudolph Steiner

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the

> > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam

> > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine

> > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal

> > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may

> > > think that they are advised to engage in

> > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read

> > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and

> > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be

> > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is

> > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of

> > > high priority. If we continue and patiently

> > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter

> > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion

> > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas

> > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender

> > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."

> > > Sri Swami Prabhupada

> > >

> > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."

> > > Swami Vivekananda

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to

> > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the

> > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The

> > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending

> > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac

> > > and negative, undesirable influences that are

> > > opposed to spiritual development, yet

> > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention

> > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."

> > > Sri Ramanuja

> > >

> > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal

> > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear

> > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."

> > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri

> > >

> > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments

> > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of

> > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin

> > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those

> > > who meditate on the Gita will

> > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."

> > > Mahatma Gandhiji

> > >

> > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all

> > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.

> > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence

> > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."

> > > Adi Sankara

> > >

> > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -

> > > Swami Vivekananda

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to

> > > His devotee Arjuna."

> > > Paramahansa Yogananda

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on

> > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God

> > > which is manifested by actions."

> > > Dr. Albert Schweizer

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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sean tremblay <bethjams9@...> wrote:
>
> It's been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing
through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife's
required reading for her yoga training. I would have to agree with
Gwyn that it seems at least on surface to be a work more concerned
with behavior than spirituality or meditation ...

snip below

The deal here is that many translations are very
hard for Americans to "get". That's one main reason
why I point to Swami Satchidananda's translation. His
Americanized English is pretty clear. One aspect of this
"war story" is that it can be seen to be pointing to the
enemy that is within our mind...greed, hate, anger,
jealousy, etc and that's what we really need to fight.
Raja Yoga is the Yoga of Meditation and it has 8 steps.
Here's the Wikipedia take on them.
The eight limbs of Ashtanga (Raja) Yoga are:

* Yama - Code of conduct - self-restraint
* Niyama - religious observances - commitments
to practice, such as study and devotion
* &#256;sana - integration of mind and body
through physical activity
* Pranayama - regulation of breath leading
to integration of mind and body
* Pratyahara - abstraction of the senses,
withdrawal of the senses of perception from their objects
* Dharana - concentration, one-pointedness of mind
* Dhyana - meditation (quiet activity that
leads to samadhi)
* Samadhi - the quiet state of blissful
awareness, superconscious state

As you can see, meditation has 6 steps before it can
take place. Even just being able to concentrate will
not happen without self-restraint, study, control of
the mind and senses, etc. So if seen as a course in
getting enough self control to meditate,the Gita is
quite a guidebook.Everyone has something that is the
main way that they become distracted when meditating.
For some it can be their emotions, others their bodily
reactivity, and many their mind chatter. That's the war
that we need to wage. And seeing Krishna as the Divine
identity within us and Arjuna as our "normal" mind/ego,
the Gita and its directions on how life should be faced
will well take us to where we must be for meditation to
flow us into Samadhi.
And in any event, it's a bit better than any Rambo movie
if war stories are your thing.
Peace and blessings,
Bob

but I didn't get down to the gnats ass of it. When I first read it I
think I was looking at it from a historical or anthropological view a
curiosity such as reading the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Icelandic
chronicles and I considered it interesting from that point. As an
American and as a bit of an Anarchist in spirit I found the concepts
of total abandonment of self to one duty or station in life to be a
hard pill to swallow especial;y since I am a strong believer in the
individuals choice for "Good" works especially when it come to making
the choice for or against WAR, Violence, Killing ect...Or how we
define the way in which we operate in this world IE what our
> calling is and how we choose to fulfill it. So when Krishna and
Arjuna are poised and ready at the battle field and Arjuna expresses
his doubt I can't help but think of Pakistan and India poised on the
border of Kashmir both parties brandishing the Nuke option One side
believing in Karmic predestination The other in Gods righteous fury
and quite frankly that scares the Bjesus outta me. I might be reading
it wrong but as a piece of literature I still enjoyed as a portal into
the mind of an ancient
> culture
>
> medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn
Plaine"
> <gplaine@> wrote:
> >
> > So, the Gita?
> >
> Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
> (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
> My favorite translation and commentary
> will be found in this version:
> The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
> Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
> Many other "Best" books can be found on our
> Suggested Reading list:
> http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html
> Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
> Essential Writings on Nonduality
> ONE
> Edited by Jerry Katz
> and I would include one of the truly classic
> treasures to be:
> I AM THAT,
> Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
>
> But...I really think that there is no book
> that can do as much for your understanding of
> meditation and help your evolution in
> consciousness as actually meditating.
> Peace and blessings,
> Bob
>
> > On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > One of the most common emails the
> > > Meditation Society of America gets
> > > asks for advice on which books are
> > > the best dealing with meditation.
> > > We had several this week and also
> > > received an email from the Divya
> > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
> > > one answer to this question. We'll
> > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
> > >
> > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > > reflace about how God created this
> > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
> > > Albert Einstein
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
> > > dedicate body, mind and soul
> > > to pure duty and not to become mental
> > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
> > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
> > > Mahatma Gandhiji
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
> > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
> > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
> > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
> > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
> > > India but to all of humanity."
> > > Aldous Huxley
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
> > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
> > > with a new message for every age and a
> > > new meaning for every civilization."
> > > Sri Aurobindo
> > >
> > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
> > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
> > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
> > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
> > > Henry David Thoreau
> > >
> > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
> > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
> > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
> > > Herman Hesse
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
> > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
> > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
> > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
> > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
> > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
> > >
> > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
> > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
> > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
> > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
> > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
> > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
> > > questions which exercise us."
> > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
> > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
> > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
> > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
> > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
> > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> > >
> > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
> > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
> > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
> > > Rudolph Steiner
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
> > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
> > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
> > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
> > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
> > > think that they are advised to engage in
> > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
> > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
> > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
> > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
> > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
> > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
> > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
> > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
> > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
> > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
> > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
> > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
> > >
> > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
> > > Swami Vivekananda
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
> > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
> > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
> > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
> > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
> > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
> > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
> > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
> > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
> > > Sri Ramanuja
> > >
> > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
> > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
> > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
> > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
> > >
> > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
> > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
> > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
> > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
> > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
> > > who meditate on the Gita will
> > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
> > > Mahatma Gandhiji
> > >
> > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
> > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
> > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
> > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
> > > Adi Sankara
> > >
> > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
> > > Swami Vivekananda
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
> > > His devotee Arjuna."
> > > Paramahansa Yogananda
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
> > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
> > > which is manifested by actions."
> > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice of

Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find objectives

of the two texts are diametrically opposite.



From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a better

manual.



Thanks for this thread.

regards









--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety

<no_reply@...> wrote:

>

> One of the most common emails the

> Meditation Society of America gets

> asks for advice on which books are

> the best dealing with meditation.

> We had several this week and also

> received an email from the Divya

> Jivan Newsletter that pointed to

> one answer to this question. We'll

> let these quotes speak for themselves:

>

> "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and

> reflace about how God created this

> universe everything else seems so superfluous."

> Albert Einstein

>

> "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to

> dedicate body, mind and soul

> to pure duty and not to become mental

> voluptuaries at the mercy of

> random desires and undisciplined impulses."

> Mahatma Gandhiji

>

> "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement

> of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.

> It is one of the most clear and comprehensive

> summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;

> hence its enduring value is subject not only to

> India but to all of humanity."

> Aldous Huxley

>

> "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the

> human race a living creation rather than a book,

> with a new message for every age and a

> new meaning for every civilization."

> Sri Aurobindo

>

> "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the

> stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the

> Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern

> world and its literature seems puny and trivial."

> Henry David Thoreau

>

> "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly

> beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which

> enables philosophy to blossom into religion."

> Herman Hesse

>

> "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the

> spiritual foundation of human existence. It is

> a call of action to meet the obligations and

> duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual

> nature and grander purpose of the universe."

> Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

>

> "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.

> It was the first of books; it was as if an empire

> spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,

> but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an

> old intelligence which in another age and climate

> had pondered and thus disposed of the same

> questions which exercise us."

> Ralph Waldo Emerson

>

> "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought

> and in its philosophical teachings Krishna

> has all the attributes of the full-fledged

> montheistic deity and at the same time the

> attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."

> Ralph Waldo Emerson

>

> "In order to approach a creation as sublime

> as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding

> it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -

> Rudolph Steiner

>

> "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the

> Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam

> fully reveals the true import of this doctrine

> which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal

> of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may

> think that they are advised to engage in

> warfare. When the second chapter has been read

> it can be clearly understood that knowledge and

> the soul is the ultimate goal to be

> attained. On studying the third chapter it is

> apparent that acts of righteousness are also of

> high priority. If we continue and patiently

> take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and

> try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter

> we can see that the ultimate conclusion

> is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas

> of religion which we possess and fully surrender

> directly unto the Supreme Lord."

> Sri Swami Prabhupada

>

> "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."

> Swami Vivekananda

>

> "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to

> reveal the science of devotion to God which is the

> essence of all spiritual knowledge. The

> Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending

> and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac

> and negative, undesirable influences that are

> opposed to spiritual development, yet

> simultaneously it is His incomparable intention

> to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."

> Sri Ramanuja

>

> "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal

> or external, that the Gita has not made clear

> and enabled me to deal with or understand."

> Swami Nirmalananda Giri

>

> "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments

> stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of

> hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and

> find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin

> to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those

> who meditate on the Gita will

> derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."

> Mahatma Gandhiji

>

> "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all

> the goals of human existence become fulfilled.

> Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence

> of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."

> Adi Sankara

>

> "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -

> Swami Vivekananda

>

> "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to

> His devotee Arjuna."

> Paramahansa Yogananda

>

> "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on

> the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God

> which is manifested by actions."

> Dr. Albert Schweizer

>

No further views?

regards







--- In

meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

<jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:

>

> Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice of

> Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find objectives

> of the two texts are diametrically opposite.

>

> From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a better

> manual.

>

> Thanks for this thread.

> regards

>

>

>

>

> --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,

medit8ionsociety

> <no_reply@> wrote:

> >

> > One of the most common emails the

> > Meditation Society of America gets

> > asks for advice on which books are

> > the best dealing with meditation.

> > We had several this week and also

> > received an email from the Divya

> > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to

> > one answer to this question. We'll

> > let these quotes speak for themselves:

> >

> > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > reflace about how God created this

> > universe everything else seems so superfluous."

> > Albert Einstein

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to

> > dedicate body, mind and soul

> > to pure duty and not to become mental

> > voluptuaries at the mercy of

> > random desires and undisciplined impulses."

> > Mahatma Gandhiji

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement

> > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.

> > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive

> > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;

> > hence its enduring value is subject not only to

> > India but to all of humanity."

> > Aldous Huxley

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the

> > human race a living creation rather than a book,

> > with a new message for every age and a

> > new meaning for every civilization."

> > Sri Aurobindo

> >

> > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the

> > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the

> > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern

> > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."

> > Henry David Thoreau

> >

> > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly

> > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which

> > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."

> > Herman Hesse

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the

> > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is

> > a call of action to meet the obligations and

> > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual

> > nature and grander purpose of the universe."

> > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

> >

> > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.

> > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire

> > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,

> > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an

> > old intelligence which in another age and climate

> > had pondered and thus disposed of the same

> > questions which exercise us."

> > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought

> > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna

> > has all the attributes of the full-fledged

> > montheistic deity and at the same time the

> > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."

> > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> >

> > "In order to approach a creation as sublime

> > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding

> > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -

> > Rudolph Steiner

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the

> > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam

> > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine

> > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal

> > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may

> > think that they are advised to engage in

> > warfare. When the second chapter has been read

> > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and

> > the soul is the ultimate goal to be

> > attained. On studying the third chapter it is

> > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of

> > high priority. If we continue and patiently

> > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter

> > we can see that the ultimate conclusion

> > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas

> > of religion which we possess and fully surrender

> > directly unto the Supreme Lord."

> > Sri Swami Prabhupada

> >

> > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."

> > Swami Vivekananda

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to

> > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the

> > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The

> > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending

> > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac

> > and negative, undesirable influences that are

> > opposed to spiritual development, yet

> > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention

> > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."

> > Sri Ramanuja

> >

> > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal

> > or external, that the Gita has not made clear

> > and enabled me to deal with or understand."

> > Swami Nirmalananda Giri

> >

> > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments

> > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of

> > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and

> > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin

> > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those

> > who meditate on the Gita will

> > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."

> > Mahatma Gandhiji

> >

> > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all

> > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.

> > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence

> > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."

> > Adi Sankara

> >

> > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -

> > Swami Vivekananda

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to

> > His devotee Arjuna."

> > Paramahansa Yogananda

> >

> > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on

> > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God

> > which is manifested by actions."

> > Dr. Albert Schweizer

> >

>

--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

<jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:

>

> No further views?

> regards

>

Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,

I didn't realize that you were referring to

the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you

were, and that it was your unique spelling

(Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable

to reply. I don't see in any way that the

2 books as being "diametrically opposite.

Actually, I feel they compliment each other

perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best

prepare to medtate and live a pure life that

eliminates the distractions that hold one back

from experiencing the bounty of treasures that

meditation brings. And the Sutras are the

perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together

they comprise the totality of all one

needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold

the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is

within and is the birthright of all of humanity.

Peace and Blessings,

Bob

> --- In

> meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> >

> > Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice of

> > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find objectives

> > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.

> >

> > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a better

> > manual.

> >

> > Thanks for this thread.

> > regards

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,

> medit8ionsociety

> > <no_reply@> wrote:

> > >

> > > One of the most common emails the

> > > Meditation Society of America gets

> > > asks for advice on which books are

> > > the best dealing with meditation.

> > > We had several this week and also

> > > received an email from the Divya

> > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to

> > > one answer to this question. We'll

> > > let these quotes speak for themselves:

> > >

> > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > reflace about how God created this

> > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."

> > > Albert Einstein

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to

> > > dedicate body, mind and soul

> > > to pure duty and not to become mental

> > > voluptuaries at the mercy of

> > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."

> > > Mahatma Gandhiji

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement

> > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.

> > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive

> > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;

> > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to

> > > India but to all of humanity."

> > > Aldous Huxley

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the

> > > human race a living creation rather than a book,

> > > with a new message for every age and a

> > > new meaning for every civilization."

> > > Sri Aurobindo

> > >

> > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the

> > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the

> > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern

> > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."

> > > Henry David Thoreau

> > >

> > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly

> > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which

> > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."

> > > Herman Hesse

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the

> > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is

> > > a call of action to meet the obligations and

> > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual

> > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."

> > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

> > >

> > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.

> > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire

> > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,

> > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an

> > > old intelligence which in another age and climate

> > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same

> > > questions which exercise us."

> > > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought

> > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna

> > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged

> > > montheistic deity and at the same time the

> > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."

> > > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > >

> > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime

> > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding

> > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -

> > > Rudolph Steiner

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the

> > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam

> > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine

> > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal

> > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may

> > > think that they are advised to engage in

> > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read

> > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and

> > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be

> > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is

> > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of

> > > high priority. If we continue and patiently

> > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter

> > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion

> > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas

> > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender

> > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."

> > > Sri Swami Prabhupada

> > >

> > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."

> > > Swami Vivekananda

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to

> > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the

> > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The

> > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending

> > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac

> > > and negative, undesirable influences that are

> > > opposed to spiritual development, yet

> > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention

> > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."

> > > Sri Ramanuja

> > >

> > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal

> > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear

> > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."

> > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri

> > >

> > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments

> > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of

> > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin

> > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those

> > > who meditate on the Gita will

> > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."

> > > Mahatma Gandhiji

> > >

> > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all

> > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.

> > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence

> > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."

> > > Adi Sankara

> > >

> > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -

> > > Swami Vivekananda

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to

> > > His devotee Arjuna."

> > > Paramahansa Yogananda

> > >

> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on

> > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God

> > > which is manifested by actions."

> > > Dr. Albert Schweizer

> > >

> >

>

Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat Geeta.



No.

The definitions of Yoga:



Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of mind/procliviries).



Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting success

and failure as the same)



Objectives-Moksha.



Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time and

space.



Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.



Approach:



Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.



Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.



regards













--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety

<no_reply@...> wrote:

>

> --- In

meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> >

> > No further views?

> > regards

> >

> Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,

> I didn't realize that you were referring to

> the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you

> were, and that it was your unique spelling

> (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable

> to reply. I don't see in any way that the

> 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.

> Actually, I feel they compliment each other

> perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best

> prepare to medtate and live a pure life that

> eliminates the distractions that hold one back

> from experiencing the bounty of treasures that

> meditation brings. And the Sutras are the

> perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together

> they comprise the totality of all one

> needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold

> the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is

> within and is the birthright of all of humanity.

> Peace and Blessings,

> Bob

> > --- In

> > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice of

> > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find

objectives

> > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.

> > >

> > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a

better

> > > manual.

> > >

> > > Thanks for this thread.

> > > regards

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,

> > medit8ionsociety

> > > <no_reply@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > One of the most common emails the

> > > > Meditation Society of America gets

> > > > asks for advice on which books are

> > > > the best dealing with meditation.

> > > > We had several this week and also

> > > > received an email from the Divya

> > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to

> > > > one answer to this question. We'll

> > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:

> > > >

> > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > > reflace about how God created this

> > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."

> > > > Albert Einstein

> > > >

> > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to

> > > > dedicate body, mind and soul

> > > > to pure duty and not to become mental

> > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of

> > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."

> > > > Mahatma Gandhiji

> > > >

> > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement

> > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.

> > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive

> > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;

> > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to

> > > > India but to all of humanity."

> > > > Aldous Huxley

> > > >

> > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the

> > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,

> > > > with a new message for every age and a

> > > > new meaning for every civilization."

> > > > Sri Aurobindo

> > > >

> > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the

> > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the

> > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern

> > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."

> > > > Henry David Thoreau

> > > >

> > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly

> > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which

> > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."

> > > > Herman Hesse

> > > >

> > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the

> > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is

> > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and

> > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual

> > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."

> > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

> > > >

> > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.

> > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire

> > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,

> > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an

> > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate

> > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same

> > > > questions which exercise us."

> > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > > >

> > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought

> > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna

> > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged

> > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the

> > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."

> > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > > >

> > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime

> > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding

> > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -

> > > > Rudolph Steiner

> > > >

> > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the

> > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam

> > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine

> > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal

> > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may

> > > > think that they are advised to engage in

> > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read

> > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and

> > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be

> > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is

> > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of

> > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently

> > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter

> > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion

> > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas

> > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender

> > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."

> > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada

> > > >

> > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."

> > > > Swami Vivekananda

> > > >

> > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to

> > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the

> > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The

> > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending

> > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac

> > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are

> > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet

> > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention

> > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."

> > > > Sri Ramanuja

> > > >

> > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal

> > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear

> > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."

> > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri

> > > >

> > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments

> > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of

> > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin

> > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those

> > > > who meditate on the Gita will

> > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."

> > > > Mahatma Gandhiji

> > > >

> > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all

> > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.

> > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence

> > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."

> > > > Adi Sankara

> > > >

> > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -

> > > > Swami Vivekananda

> > > >

> > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to

> > > > His devotee Arjuna."

> > > > Paramahansa Yogananda

> > > >

> > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on

> > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God

> > > > which is manifested by actions."

> > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

Oh! I forgot one very important aspect.



In relation to God:



Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)



Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon all

and surrender to Me)-Lord Krishna

regards







--- In

meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

<jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:

>

> Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat

Geeta.

>

> No.

> The definitions of Yoga:

>

> Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of

mind/procliviries).

>

> Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting

success

> and failure as the same)

>

> Objectives-Moksha.

>

> Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time and

> space.

>

> Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.

>

> Approach:

>

> Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.

>

> Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.

>

> regards

>

>

>

>

>

>

> --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,

medit8ionsociety

> <no_reply@> wrote:

> >

> > --- In

> meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> > >

> > > No further views?

> > > regards

> > >

> > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,

> > I didn't realize that you were referring to

> > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you

> > were, and that it was your unique spelling

> > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable

> > to reply. I don't see in any way that the

> > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.

> > Actually, I feel they compliment each other

> > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best

> > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that

> > eliminates the distractions that hold one back

> > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that

> > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the

> > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together

> > they comprise the totality of all one

> > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold

> > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is

> > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.

> > Peace and Blessings,

> > Bob

> > > --- In

> > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice

of

> > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find

> objectives

> > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.

> > > >

> > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a

> better

> > > > manual.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for this thread.

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,

> > > medit8ionsociety

> > > > <no_reply@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > One of the most common emails the

> > > > > Meditation Society of America gets

> > > > > asks for advice on which books are

> > > > > the best dealing with meditation.

> > > > > We had several this week and also

> > > > > received an email from the Divya

> > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to

> > > > > one answer to this question. We'll

> > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:

> > > > >

> > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > > > reflace about how God created this

> > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."

> > > > > Albert Einstein

> > > > >

> > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to

> > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul

> > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental

> > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of

> > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."

> > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji

> > > > >

> > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement

> > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.

> > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive

> > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;

> > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to

> > > > > India but to all of humanity."

> > > > > Aldous Huxley

> > > > >

> > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the

> > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,

> > > > > with a new message for every age and a

> > > > > new meaning for every civilization."

> > > > > Sri Aurobindo

> > > > >

> > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the

> > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the

> > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern

> > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."

> > > > > Henry David Thoreau

> > > > >

> > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly

> > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which

> > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."

> > > > > Herman Hesse

> > > > >

> > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the

> > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is

> > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and

> > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual

> > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."

> > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

> > > > >

> > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.

> > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire

> > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,

> > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an

> > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate

> > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same

> > > > > questions which exercise us."

> > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > > > >

> > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought

> > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna

> > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged

> > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the

> > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."

> > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > > > >

> > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime

> > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding

> > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -

> > > > > Rudolph Steiner

> > > > >

> > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the

> > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam

> > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine

> > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal

> > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may

> > > > > think that they are advised to engage in

> > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read

> > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and

> > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be

> > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is

> > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of

> > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently

> > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter

> > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion

> > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas

> > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender

> > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."

> > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada

> > > > >

> > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."

> > > > > Swami Vivekananda

> > > > >

> > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to

> > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the

> > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The

> > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending

> > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac

> > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are

> > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet

> > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention

> > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."

> > > > > Sri Ramanuja

> > > > >

> > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal

> > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear

> > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."

> > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri

> > > > >

> > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments

> > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of

> > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin

> > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those

> > > > > who meditate on the Gita will

> > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."

> > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji

> > > > >

> > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all

> > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.

> > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence

> > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."

> > > > > Adi Sankara

> > > > >

> > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -

> > > > > Swami Vivekananda

> > > > >

> > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to

> > > > > His devotee Arjuna."

> > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda

> > > > >

> > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on

> > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God

> > > > > which is manifested by actions."

> > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

So,I think, now there will be focus on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras,the

smallest book of the greatest importance.

regards





--- In

meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

<jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:

>

> Oh! I forgot one very important aspect.

>

> In relation to God:

>

> Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)

>

> Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon all

> and surrender to Me)-Lord Krishna

> regards

>

>

>

> --- In

> meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> >

> > Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat

> Geeta.

> >

> > No.

> > The definitions of Yoga:

> >

> > Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of

> mind/procliviries).

> >

> > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting

> success

> > and failure as the same)

> >

> > Objectives-Moksha.

> >

> > Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time and

> > space.

> >

> > Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.

> >

> > Approach:

> >

> > Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.

> >

> > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.

> >

> > regards

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,

> medit8ionsociety

> > <no_reply@> wrote:

> > >

> > > --- In

> > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > No further views?

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,

> > > I didn't realize that you were referring to

> > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you

> > > were, and that it was your unique spelling

> > > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable

> > > to reply. I don't see in any way that the

> > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.

> > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other

> > > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best

> > > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that

> > > eliminates the distractions that hold one back

> > > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that

> > > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the

> > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together

> > > they comprise the totality of all one

> > > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold

> > > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is

> > > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.

> > > Peace and Blessings,

> > > Bob

> > > > --- In

> > > >

meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice

> of

> > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find

> > objectives

> > > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.

> > > > >

> > > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a

> > better

> > > > > manual.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for this thread.

> > > > > regards

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,

> > > > medit8ionsociety

> > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One of the most common emails the

> > > > > > Meditation Society of America gets

> > > > > > asks for advice on which books are

> > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.

> > > > > > We had several this week and also

> > > > > > received an email from the Divya

> > > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to

> > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll

> > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > > > > reflace about how God created this

> > > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."

> > > > > > Albert Einstein

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to

> > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul

> > > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental

> > > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of

> > > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."

> > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement

> > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.

> > > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive

> > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;

> > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to

> > > > > > India but to all of humanity."

> > > > > > Aldous Huxley

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the

> > > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,

> > > > > > with a new message for every age and a

> > > > > > new meaning for every civilization."

> > > > > > Sri Aurobindo

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the

> > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the

> > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern

> > > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."

> > > > > > Henry David Thoreau

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly

> > > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which

> > > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."

> > > > > > Herman Hesse

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the

> > > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is

> > > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and

> > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual

> > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."

> > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.

> > > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire

> > > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,

> > > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an

> > > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate

> > > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same

> > > > > > questions which exercise us."

> > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought

> > > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna

> > > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged

> > > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the

> > > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."

> > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime

> > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding

> > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -

> > > > > > Rudolph Steiner

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the

> > > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam

> > > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine

> > > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal

> > > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may

> > > > > > think that they are advised to engage in

> > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read

> > > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and

> > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be

> > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is

> > > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of

> > > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently

> > > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter

> > > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion

> > > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas

> > > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender

> > > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."

> > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."

> > > > > > Swami Vivekananda

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to

> > > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the

> > > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The

> > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending

> > > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac

> > > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are

> > > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet

> > > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention

> > > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."

> > > > > > Sri Ramanuja

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal

> > > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear

> > > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."

> > > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments

> > > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of

> > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin

> > > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those

> > > > > > who meditate on the Gita will

> > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."

> > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all

> > > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.

> > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence

> > > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."

> > > > > > Adi Sankara

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -

> > > > > > Swami Vivekananda

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to

> > > > > > His devotee Arjuna."

> > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on

> > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God

> > > > > > which is manifested by actions."

> > > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

In my opinion, the best currently available book on meditation is The

Myth of Freedom by Chogyam Trungpa.



It is said that it takes 100 life times for a monk to realize

enlightenment,...for a yogi it takes about 10 lifetimes,...however,

for a sly (wo)man, enlightenment can be realized in a single

lifetime.  That meditation is called the Short Path or Vajrayana.



If you really cannot acknowledge the impermanence of duality and feel

you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by all

means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras.  If, on the other hand, you

realize that you don't have all the time in the world, and truly

appreciate how lucky you are to even have time for meditation, try

the Short Path.



V

:)





--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

<jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:

>

> So,I think, now there will be focus on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras,the

> smallest book of the greatest importance.

> regards

>

>

> --- In

> meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> >

> > Oh! I forgot one very important aspect.

> >

> > In relation to God:

> >

> > Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)

> >

> > Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon all

> > and surrender to Me)-Lord Krishna

> > regards

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In

> > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat

> > Geeta.

> > >

> > > No.

> > > The definitions of Yoga:

> > >

> > > Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of

> > mind/procliviries).

> > >

> > > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting

> > success

> > > and failure as the same)

> > >

> > > Objectives-Moksha.

> > >

> > > Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time and

> > > space.

> > >

> > > Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.

> > >

> > > Approach:

> > >

> > > Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.

> > >

> > > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,

> > medit8ionsociety

> > > <no_reply@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > No further views?

> > > > > regards

> > > > >

> > > > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,

> > > > I didn't realize that you were referring to

> > > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you

> > > > were, and that it was your unique spelling

> > > > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable

> > > > to reply. I don't see in any way that the

> > > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.

> > > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other

> > > > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best

> > > > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that

> > > > eliminates the distractions that hold one back

> > > > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that

> > > > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the

> > > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together

> > > > they comprise the totality of all one

> > > > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold

> > > > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is

> > > > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.

> > > > Peace and Blessings,

> > > > Bob

> > > > > --- In

> > > > >

> meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and

practice

> > of

> > > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find

> > > objectives

> > > > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is

a

> > > better

> > > > > > manual.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for this thread.

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,

> > > > > medit8ionsociety

> > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > One of the most common emails the

> > > > > > > Meditation Society of America gets

> > > > > > > asks for advice on which books are

> > > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.

> > > > > > > We had several this week and also

> > > > > > > received an email from the Divya

> > > > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to

> > > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll

> > > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > > > > > reflace about how God created this

> > > > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."

> > > > > > > Albert Einstein

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to

> > > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul

> > > > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental

> > > > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of

> > > > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."

> > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement

> > > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.

> > > > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive

> > > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;

> > > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to

> > > > > > > India but to all of humanity."

> > > > > > > Aldous Huxley

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the

> > > > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,

> > > > > > > with a new message for every age and a

> > > > > > > new meaning for every civilization."

> > > > > > > Sri Aurobindo

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the

> > > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the

> > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern

> > > > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."

> > > > > > > Henry David Thoreau

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly

> > > > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which

> > > > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."

> > > > > > > Herman Hesse

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the

> > > > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is

> > > > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and

> > > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual

> > > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."

> > > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.

> > > > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire

> > > > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,

> > > > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an

> > > > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate

> > > > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same

> > > > > > > questions which exercise us."

> > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought

> > > > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna

> > > > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged

> > > > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the

> > > > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."

> > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime

> > > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding

> > > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -

> > > > > > > Rudolph Steiner

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the

> > > > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam

> > > > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine

> > > > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal

> > > > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may

> > > > > > > think that they are advised to engage in

> > > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read

> > > > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and

> > > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be

> > > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is

> > > > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of

> > > > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently

> > > > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter

> > > > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion

> > > > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas

> > > > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender

> > > > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."

> > > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."

> > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to

> > > > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the

> > > > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The

> > > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending

> > > > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac

> > > > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are

> > > > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet

> > > > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention

> > > > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."

> > > > > > > Sri Ramanuja

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal

> > > > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear

> > > > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."

> > > > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments

> > > > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of

> > > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin

> > > > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those

> > > > > > > who meditate on the Gita will

> > > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."

> > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all

> > > > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.

> > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence

> > > > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."

> > > > > > > Adi Sankara

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -

> > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to

> > > > > > > His devotee Arjuna."

> > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on

> > > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God

> > > > > > > which is manifested by actions."

> > > > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

"feel

you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by all

means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras."



Yes. The first objective is to prolong your life span first.

regards







--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jvmarco"

<jvmarco@...> wrote:

>

> In my opinion, the best currently available book on meditation is

The

> Myth of Freedom by Chogyam Trungpa.

>

> It is said that it takes 100 life times for a monk to realize

> enlightenment,...for a yogi it takes about 10

lifetimes,...however,

> for a sly (wo)man, enlightenment can be realized in a single

> lifetime.  That meditation is called the Short Path or Vajrayana.

>

> If you really cannot acknowledge the impermanence of duality and

feel

> you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by

all

> means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras.  If, on the other hand, you

> realize that you don't have all the time in the world, and truly

> appreciate how lucky you are to even have time for meditation, try

> the Short Path.

>

> V

> :)

>

>

> --- In

meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> >

> > So,I think, now there will be focus on Patanjali's Yoga

Sutras,the

> > smallest book of the greatest importance.

> > regards

> >

> >

> > --- In

> > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Oh! I forgot one very important aspect.

> > >

> > > In relation to God:

> > >

> > > Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)

> > >

> > > Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon

all

> > > and surrender to Me)-Lord Krishna

> > > regards

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

> > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write

Madbhagavat

> > > Geeta.

> > > >

> > > > No.

> > > > The definitions of Yoga:

> > > >

> > > > Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of

> > > mind/procliviries).

> > > >

> > > > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting

> > > success

> > > > and failure as the same)

> > > >

> > > > Objectives-Moksha.

> > > >

> > > > Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time

and

> > > > space.

> > > >

> > > > Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.

> > > >

> > > > Approach:

> > > >

> > > > Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.

> > > >

> > > > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,

> > > medit8ionsociety

> > > > <no_reply@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > > >

meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No further views?

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,

> > > > > I didn't realize that you were referring to

> > > > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you

> > > > > were, and that it was your unique spelling

> > > > > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable

> > > > > to reply. I don't see in any way that the

> > > > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.

> > > > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other

> > > > > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best

> > > > > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that

> > > > > eliminates the distractions that hold one back

> > > > > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that

> > > > > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the

> > > > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together

> > > > > they comprise the totality of all one

> > > > > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold

> > > > > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is

> > > > > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.

> > > > > Peace and Blessings,

> > > > > Bob

> > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

> > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"

> > > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and

> practice

> > > of

> > > > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I

find

> > > > objectives

> > > > > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras

is

> a

> > > > better

> > > > > > > manual.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for this thread.

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,

> > > > > > medit8ionsociety

> > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > One of the most common emails the

> > > > > > > > Meditation Society of America gets

> > > > > > > > asks for advice on which books are

> > > > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.

> > > > > > > > We had several this week and also

> > > > > > > > received an email from the Divya

> > > > > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to

> > > > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll

> > > > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > > > > > > reflace about how God created this

> > > > > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."

> > > > > > > > Albert Einstein

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to

> > > > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul

> > > > > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental

> > > > > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of

> > > > > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."

> > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement

> > > > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.

> > > > > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive

> > > > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;

> > > > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to

> > > > > > > > India but to all of humanity."

> > > > > > > > Aldous Huxley

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the

> > > > > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,

> > > > > > > > with a new message for every age and a

> > > > > > > > new meaning for every civilization."

> > > > > > > > Sri Aurobindo

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the

> > > > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the

> > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern

> > > > > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."

> > > > > > > > Henry David Thoreau

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly

> > > > > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which

> > > > > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."

> > > > > > > > Herman Hesse

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the

> > > > > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is

> > > > > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and

> > > > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual

> > > > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."

> > > > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.

> > > > > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire

> > > > > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,

> > > > > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an

> > > > > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate

> > > > > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same

> > > > > > > > questions which exercise us."

> > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought

> > > > > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna

> > > > > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged

> > > > > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the

> > > > > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."

> > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime

> > > > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding

> > > > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -

> > > > > > > > Rudolph Steiner

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the

> > > > > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam

> > > > > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine

> > > > > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal

> > > > > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may

> > > > > > > > think that they are advised to engage in

> > > > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read

> > > > > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and

> > > > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be

> > > > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is

> > > > > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of

> > > > > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently

> > > > > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > > > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter

> > > > > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion

> > > > > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas

> > > > > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender

> > > > > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."

> > > > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."

> > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to

> > > > > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the

> > > > > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The

> > > > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending

> > > > > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac

> > > > > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are

> > > > > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet

> > > > > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention

> > > > > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."

> > > > > > > > Sri Ramanuja

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal

> > > > > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear

> > > > > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."

> > > > > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments

> > > > > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of

> > > > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and

> > > > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin

> > > > > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those

> > > > > > > > who meditate on the Gita will

> > > > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."

> > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all

> > > > > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.

> > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence

> > > > > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."

> > > > > > > > Adi Sankara

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform

> > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught

> > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -

> > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to

> > > > > > > > His devotee Arjuna."

> > > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on

> > > > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God

> > > > > > > > which is manifested by actions."

> > > > > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

---

To: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
From: jogeshwarmahanta@...
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:17:00 +0000
Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: The Best Book on Meditation

"feel
you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by all
means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras."

Yes. The first objective is to prolong your life span first.
regards

--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jvmarco"
<jvmarco@...> wrote:
>
> In my opinion, the best currently available book on meditation is
The
> Myth of Freedom by Chogyam Trungpa.
>
> It is said that it takes 100 life times for a monk to realize
> enlightenment,...for a yogi it takes about 10
lifetimes,...however,
> for a sly (wo)man, enlightenment can be realized in a single
> lifetime. That meditation is called the Short Path or Vajrayana.
>
> If you really cannot acknowledge the impermanence of duality and
feel
> you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by
all
> means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. If, on the other hand, you
> realize that you don't have all the time in the world, and truly
> appreciate how lucky you are to even have time for meditation, try
> the Short Path.
>
> V
> :)
>
>
> --- In
meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
> <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
> >
> > So,I think, now there will be focus on Patanjali's Yoga
Sutras,the
> > smallest book of the greatest importance.
> > regards
> >
> >
> > --- In
> > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
> > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh! I forgot one very important aspect.
> > >
> > > In relation to God:
> > >
> > > Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)
> > >
> > > Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon
all
> > > and surrender to Me)-Lord Krishna
> > > regards
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In
> > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
> > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write
Madbhagavat
> > > Geeta.
> > > >
> > > > No.
> > > > The definitions of Yoga:
> > > >
> > > > Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of
> > > mind/procliviries).
> > > >
> > > > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting
> > > success
> > > > and failure as the same)
> > > >
> > > > Objectives-Moksha.
> > > >
> > > > Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time
and
> > > > space.
> > > >
> > > > Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.
> > > >
> > > > Approach:
> > > >
> > > > Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.
> > > >
> > > > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
> > > medit8ionsociety
> > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In
> > > >
meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
> > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No further views?
> > > > > > regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,
> > > > > I didn't realize that you were referring to
> > > > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you
> > > > > were, and that it was your unique spelling
> > > > > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable
> > > > > to reply. I don't see in any way that the
> > > > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.
> > > > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other
> > > > > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best
> > > > > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that
> > > > > eliminates the distractions that hold one back
> > > > > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that
> > > > > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the
> > > > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together
> > > > > they comprise the totality of all one
> > > > > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold
> > > > > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is
> > > > > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.
> > > > > Peace and Blessings,
> > > > > Bob
> > > > > > --- In
> > > > > >
> > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
> > > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and
> practice
> > > of
> > > > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I
find
> > > > objectives
> > > > > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras
is
> a
> > > > better
> > > > > > > manual.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for this thread.
> > > > > > > regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > medit8ionsociety
> > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > One of the most common emails the
> > > > > > > > Meditation Society of America gets
> > > > > > > > asks for advice on which books are
> > > > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.
> > > > > > > > We had several this week and also
> > > > > > > > received an email from the Divya
> > > > > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
> > > > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll
> > > > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > > > > > > > reflace about how God created this
> > > > > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
> > > > > > > > Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
> > > > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
> > > > > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
> > > > > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
> > > > > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
> > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
> > > > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
> > > > > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
> > > > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
> > > > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
> > > > > > > > India but to all of humanity."
> > > > > > > > Aldous Huxley
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
> > > > > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
> > > > > > > > with a new message for every age and a
> > > > > > > > new meaning for every civilization."
> > > > > > > > Sri Aurobindo
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
> > > > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
> > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
> > > > > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
> > > > > > > > Henry David Thoreau
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
> > > > > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
> > > > > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
> > > > > > > > Herman Hesse
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
> > > > > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
> > > > > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
> > > > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
> > > > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
> > > > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
> > > > > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
> > > > > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
> > > > > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
> > > > > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
> > > > > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
> > > > > > > > questions which exercise us."
> > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
> > > > > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
> > > > > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
> > > > > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
> > > > > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
> > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
> > > > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
> > > > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
> > > > > > > > Rudolph Steiner
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
> > > > > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
> > > > > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
> > > > > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
> > > > > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
> > > > > > > > think that they are advised to engage in
> > > > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
> > > > > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
> > > > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
> > > > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
> > > > > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
> > > > > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
> > > > > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > > > > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
> > > > > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
> > > > > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
> > > > > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
> > > > > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
> > > > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
> > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
> > > > > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
> > > > > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
> > > > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
> > > > > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
> > > > > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
> > > > > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
> > > > > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
> > > > > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
> > > > > > > > Sri Ramanuja
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
> > > > > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
> > > > > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
> > > > > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
> > > > > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
> > > > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
> > > > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
> > > > > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
> > > > > > > > who meditate on the Gita will
> > > > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
> > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
> > > > > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
> > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
> > > > > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
> > > > > > > > Adi Sankara
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
> > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
> > > > > > > > His devotee Arjuna."
> > > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
> > > > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
> > > > > > > > which is manifested by actions."
> > > > > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

From 1 book to 4 now.

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--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Balasubramanian

Radhakrishnan Kumar <kumarbr20@...> wrote:

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> Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharishi's self enquiry method for self

realisation is the shortest and the best. -- B.R.Kumar, Chennai -41,

INDIA

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> To: meditationsocietyofamerica@...: jogeshwarmahanta@...: Thu, 10

Jan 2008 06:17:00 +0000Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re:

The Best Book on Meditation

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> "feelyou have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here,

by allmeans go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras."Yes. The first objective

is to prolong your life span first.regards--- In

meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jvmarco" <jvmarco@>

wrote:>> In my opinion, the best currently available book on

meditation is The > Myth of Freedom by Chogyam Trungpa.> > It is

said that it takes 100 life times for a monk to realize >

enlightenment,...for a yogi it takes about 10 lifetimes,...however,

> for a sly (wo)man, enlightenment can be realized in a single >

lifetime. That meditation is called the Short Path or Vajrayana.> >

If you really cannot acknowledge the impermanence of duality and

feel > you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here,

by all > means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. If, on the other

hand, you > realize that you don't have all the time in the world,

and truly > appreciate how lucky you are to even have time for

meditation, try > the Short Path. > > V> :)> > > --- In

meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta" >

<jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:> >> > So,I think, now there will be focus

on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras,the > > smallest book of the greatest

importance.> > regards> > > > > > --- In > >

meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta" > >

<jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:> > >> > > Oh! I forgot one very important

aspect.> > > > > > In relation to God:> > > > > > Patanjal-Ishwara

pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)> > > > > > Geeta-Sarba dharman

parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon all > > > and surrender to

Me)-Lord Krishna> > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > >

meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta" > > >

<jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Sorry for the spelling

mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat > > > Geeta.> > > > > > > >

No. > > > > The definitions of Yoga:> > > > > > > > Patnjali-

Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of > > > mind/procliviries).>

> > > > > > > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate

(Accepting > > > success > > > > and failure as the same)> > > > > >

> > Objectives-Moksha.> > > > > > > > Patanjali-Attaining the purest

conscience/Transcending time and > > > > space.> > > > > > > > Geeta-

Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.> > > > > > > > Approach:> >

> > > > > > Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.>

> > > > > > > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached

manner.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,

> > > medit8ionsociety > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > -

-- In > > > >

meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"> > >

> > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > No further

views?> > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > Yo Sri

Jogeshwarmahanta,> > > > > I didn't realize that you were referring

to > > > > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you > > > > >

were, and that it was your unique spelling> > > > > (Magbhagvat

Geeta) that made me feel unable> > > > > to reply. I don't see in

any way that the> > > > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.>

> > > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other> > > > >

perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best> > > > > prepare to

medtate and live a pure life that> > > > > eliminates the

distractions that hold one back> > > > > from experiencing the

bounty of treasures that> > > > > meditation brings. And the Sutras

are the> > > > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together> > >

> > they comprise the totality of all one> > > > > needs to learn,

and then do, to best unfold> > > > > the flower of peace, wisdom and

bliss that is> > > > > within and is the birthright of all of

humanity.> > > > > Peace and Blessings,> > > > > Bob> > > > > > ---

In > > > > > > > >

meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta" > > >

> > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Has any

body gone through comparative reading and > practice > > > of > > >

> > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find > >

> > objectives > > > > > > > of the two texts are diametrically

opposite.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the practice point of

view, I think, Yoga Sutras is > a > > > > better > > > > > > >

manual.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for this thread.> > > > >

> > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, > > >

> > > medit8ionsociety > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > One of the most common emails the> > > > > > > >

Meditation Society of America gets> > > > > > > > asks for advice on

which books are> > > > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.> >

> > > > > > We had several this week and also> > > > > > > >

received an email from the Divya> > > > > > > > Jivan Newsletter

that pointed to> > > > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll> >

> > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and > > > > > > > >

reflace about how God created this> > > > > > > > universe

everything else seems so superfluous." > > > > > > > > Albert

Einstein> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on

humanity to > > > > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul> > > > > >

> > to pure duty and not to become mental > > > > > > > >

voluptuaries at the mercy of> > > > > > > > random desires and

undisciplined impulses."> > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic

statement > > > > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to

mankind. > > > > > > > > It is one of the most clear and

comprehensive > > > > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever

revealed;> > > > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not

only to > > > > > > > > India but to all of humanity."> > > > > > >

> Aldous Huxley> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is

a true scripture of the > > > > > > > > human race a living creation

rather than a book, > > > > > > > > with a new message for every age

and a> > > > > > > > new meaning for every civilization." > > > > >

> > > Sri Aurobindo> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In the morning I

bathe my intellect in the > > > > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal

philosophy of the > > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with

which our modern> > > > > > > > world and its literature seems puny

and trivial."> > > > > > > > Henry David Thoreau> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly > > > > >

> > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which > > > > > > > >

enables philosophy to blossom into religion." > > > > > > > > Herman

Hesse> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals

essentially with the > > > > > > > > spiritual foundation of human

existence. It is > > > > > > > > a call of action to meet the

obligations and> > > > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view

the spiritual > > > > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the

universe."> > > > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita. > > > >

> > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire > > > > >

> > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,> > > > > > > > but

large, serene, consistent, the voice of an > > > > > > > > old

intelligence which in another age and climate > > > > > > > > had

pondered and thus disposed of the same> > > > > > > > questions

which exercise us."> > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought > > > >

> > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna > > > > > > > >

has all the attributes of the full-fledged> > > > > > > >

montheistic deity and at the same time the > > > > > > > >

attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."> > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo

Emerson> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In order to approach a

creation as sublime > > > > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full

understanding > > > > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to

it." -> > > > > > > > Rudolph Steiner> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the > > > > > > > >

Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam > > > > > > > > fully

reveals the true import of this doctrine> > > > > > > > which is

transmigation of the soul. On perusal > > > > > > > > of the first

chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may > > > > > > > > think that they are

advised to engage in> > > > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter

has been read > > > > > > > > it can be clearly understood that

knowledge and > > > > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be> >

> > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is > > > > >

> > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of > > > > > > >

> high priority. If we continue and patiently> > > > > > > > take

the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and > > > > > > > > try to

ascertain the truth of its closing chapter > > > > > > > > we can

see that the ultimate conclusion> > > > > > > > is to relinquish all

the conceptualized ideas > > > > > > > > of religion which we

possess and fully surrender > > > > > > > > directly unto the

Supreme Lord."> > > > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform > > > >

> > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught > > > > > > >

> by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." > > > > > > > > Swami

Vivekananda> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was

spoken by Lord Krishna to > > > > > > > > reveal the science of

devotion to God which is the > > > > > > > > essence of all

spiritual knowledge. The> > > > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas

primary purpose for descending > > > > > > > > and incarnating is

relieve the world of any demoniac > > > > > > > > and negative,

undesirable influences that are > > > > > > > > opposed to spiritual

development, yet> > > > > > > > simultaneously it is His

incomparable intention > > > > > > > > to be perpetually within

reach of all humanity."> > > > > > > > Sri Ramanuja> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal > > > >

> > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear > > > > > > >

> and enabled me to deal with or understand." > > > > > > > > Swami

Nirmalananda Giri> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "When doubts haunt

me, when disappointments > > > > > > > > stare me in the face, and I

see not one ray of > > > > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to

Bhagavad-Gita and> > > > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I

immediately begin > > > > > > > > to smile in the midst of

overwhelming sorrow. Those > > > > > > > > who meditate on the Gita

will> > > > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every

day."> > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all > > > > > > > >

the goals of human existence become fulfilled. > > > > > > > >

Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence> > > > > > > > of all the

teachings of the Vedic scriptures."> > > > > > > > Adi Sankara> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to

perform > > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is

taught> > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -> > >

> > > > > Swami Vivekananda> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The

Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to > > > > > > > > His

devotee Arjuna."> > > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on > > >

> > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God > > > > > > >

> which is manifested by actions."> > > > > > > > Dr. Albert

Schweizer> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> >

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