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#13383 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2004 2:00 pm
Subject: Excellent Swami Satchidananda Daily Reading
medit8ionsoc...
 
You may be regular in your practice; but if every morning you sit
without any movement for one whole hour and meditate, and the next
minute you go out and express all your negative feelings to others,
what is the use? That's not spiritual practice. How much of
animosity, backbiting, dislike, hatred, "I don't like her, I don't
like him," is there in your life? Touch your own heart and question
yourself, "Am I loved by everyone? Do I love everyone? Or is there
any dislike towards anybody?" Go to that person, shake his or her
hand and say, "I'm sorry I had this kind of feeling. It's terrible,
it makes me sick. I am sorry." That is worth a hundred days'
meditation. Have no ill feeling toward anyone. The moment you have
some difference of opinion or any feelings of suspicion, go,
immediately talk to that person. Say, "I am getting a feeling like
this. Please, I must clarify it. Come on, let's get that over with."
Don't even allow it to stay in your heart for a few hours. Sometimes
these kinds of feelings come up. It's natural; but don't go to sleep
like that. Before you go to bed, it should be cleared up. Don't you
brush your teeth before you go to bed? You go to bed with clean
teeth, is it not so? In the same way, brush your heart also. How can
you brush your heart? Talk to the people concerned. Clean out the
negative feelings, then you can go to bed with a clean heart and
sleep comfortably. If you consciously try it, it becomes very easy.
It's not really an impossible thing.

Om Shanti, Om Shanti, Om Shanti

From todays daily reading from The Golden Present, as posted on
http:://www.yogaville.org

#13384 From: "Era" <mi_nok@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2004 6:13 pm
Subject: Re: PATANJALI'S VISION OF ONENESS
satkartar7
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medit8ionsociety <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> <jeff@m...> wrote:
> >
> > Paraphrase of a Christian model that parallels
> > Swami Venkatesananda's interpretive
> > translation of Patajali's vision of Oneness:
> >
> > Leave behind the rituals of religion,
> > which may be likened to milk, and feast
> > on the meat of the advanced teachings
> > (and you will)...
> >
> > step into perfection.
> >
> > Hebrews 5-6
>
> Yo PapaJeff,
> Did you see that there's a new nonduality Bible project?
> Actually since you've been doing this for decades, let's just say it's
> new to the web...
> http://nonduality.com/nondual_bible_verses_project.htm
> Enjoy!



  that was funny, thanks Bob


> Peace and blessings,
> Bob

> > medit8ionsociety <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > AN INTERPRETIVE TRANSLATION BY SWAMI
> > VENKATESANANDA
> > > SRI PATANJALA YOGA DARSANAM
> > > II. 45
> > >
> > > Perfection in self-awareness instantly follows total, dynamic
> > and
> > > intelligent surrender of the individual ego-sense (in the sense
> > of
> > > the realization of its unreal nature) or the merging of it in the
> > > indwelling omnipresence (in the sense of the direct realization
> > of
> > > the falsity of the "me", the ego-sense, and therefore the sole
> > > reality of the indwelling omnipresence) .

#13385 From: Pradheepkumar Chhalliyil <pradheep53556@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2004 10:19 pm
Subject: Accept - a perfect mantra
pradheep53556
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Use the mantra "Accept" to bring self awareness. Accept every person and every situation. This is the best way to watch the "ego" which culminates in self awareness. This transcends the mind from Judgemental mode to analytical mode. This brings peace because one stops to judge things and start to see things as they are. This is a powerful way to weaken the negativity of the ego. Through this love blossom and one can see perfection in the whole creation. "Accept" is the password to get access to the cosmic computer. It is simple difficult and complete mantra.

Pradheep Chhalliyil.

 

 

 



A scientist's explanation of Man's eternal quest to Know the mystery of life using the metaphor of computer simulation, the theme of Matrix movies. www.matrixjourney.com
 


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#13387 From: "Jeff Belyea" <jeff@...>
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2004 9:59 pm
Subject: Re: PATANJALI'S VISION OF ONENESS
mindgoal
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Thanks, Bob -

First, Namaskar to the Enlightened Eagles.

Yes, duality was what the bite of the apple
brought. As soon as A&E decided to eat of the
tree of the "knowledge of good and evil", duality
was introduced and the appearance of things,
known as maya or illusion in some traditions,
took precedence over what IS - only God, and
us - all of us - within God, as individualized
"sparks" of God's own fire - consciousness.

Much of the rest of the Christian bible, at its
core, is an admonition to not be deceived and
instruction on how to get back to the garden
of nonduality - realization of our timeless
and inherent Oneness within God, Source,
Spirit.

Awareness of what IS our true identity comes
through an awakening experience and the new
(renewed) understanding of Enlightened
Consciousness, Christ Consciousness,
Buddhahood, Samadhi, Satori, Nondual
Realization and Such. This forever ends
the duality and sense of separation.
We do not give up our individual "being"
in this human form, but the illusory boundary
between us and others, and us and God
dissolves upon realization.

Our words, and all the words ever written
will not achieve this for us. Thought and
debate will not do it. Meditation...that will do it.
Or at least it will prepare the ground
on which we are able to "hear" the
still, small voice of God - from within.

We are barraged by our own internal
chatter and whisperings from long held
beliefs planted by pop cultural religion
and the socialization and coercion
passed on from generation to generation,
and from which few ever recover.

It is from the Silence of meditation that
the wisdom whisper of the mystic heart
will be "heard" and transformation known.

Oops. You provoked the preacher.
Sorry, gentle reader.

Thanks, Bob.


--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
medit8ionsociety <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff
Belyea"
> <jeff@m...> wrote:
> >
> > Paraphrase of a Christian model that parallels
> > Swami Venkatesananda's interpretive
> > translation of Patajali's vision of Oneness:
> >
> > Leave behind the rituals of religion,
> > which may be likened to milk, and feast
> > on the meat of the advanced teachings
> > (and you will)...
> >
> > step into perfection.
> >
> > Hebrews 5-6
>
> Yo PapaJeff,
> Did you see that there's a new nonduality Bible project?
> Actually since you've been doing this for decades, let's just say
it's
> new to the web...
> http://nonduality.com/nondual_bible_verses_project.htm
> Enjoy!
> Peace and blessings,
> Bob
> > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
> > medit8ionsociety <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > AN INTERPRETIVE TRANSLATION BY SWAMI
> > VENKATESANANDA
> > > SRI PATANJALA YOGA DARSANAM
> > > II. 45
> > >
> > > Perfection in self-awareness instantly follows total,
dynamic
> > and
> > > intelligent surrender of the individual ego-sense (in the
sense
> > of
> > > the realization of its unreal nature) or the merging of it in the
> > > indwelling omnipresence (in the sense of the direct
realization
> > of
> > > the falsity of the "me", the ego-sense, and therefore the
sole
> > > reality of the indwelling omnipresence) .

#13388 From: "Jeff Belyea" <jeff@...>
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2004 10:02 pm
Subject: What?
mindgoal
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Pardon. I posted and
then deleted to correct
a glaring mis-type.

Then re-posted the
corrected post.

Time to meditate and
ssssllllloooooow down.

#13389 From: bhalla sandeep <gradbm@...>
Date: Thu Nov 4, 2004 3:12 am
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] What?
gradbm
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Jeff Belyea <jeff@...> wrote:


Pardon. I posted and
then deleted to correct
a glaring mis-type.

Then re-posted the
corrected post.

Time to meditate and
ssssllllloooooow down.

hi jeff, this is sandeep here in india. i really did not get your message. hey tell me how do you meditate. what do you do or not do in meditation. do write and interact with me as we will mutually gain from each other.bye for now




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#13390 From: "Jeff Belyea" <jeff@...>
Date: Thu Nov 4, 2004 11:05 am
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] What?
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Hi Sandeep -

My meditation is a simple one.
I rarely sit for formal meditation,
although I did for several years.
Now my meditation is more ongoing,
an undercurrent of daily activity.

The meditation I teach is to:

On occasion simply stop and
come into the present moment
and present environment - just
allow for a  quiet awareness,
without any internal dialogue
(as much as possible).

Then, maintaining the quiet
awareness, notice your breathing -
and follow the flow of inhaling
and exhaling. Allow the quiet
relaxation this brings to move
you into longer and longer
periods of silence, without
the internal dialogue. To
help sustain this:

Next,  "listen" internally and
focus attention in the area
of the heart. With each breath,
listen for the message of
the "mystic heart", a nonverbal
"wisdom whisper".

For some, this wisdom whisper
is "heard" after only a few
meditations, and for others it
takes years.

For the beginning meditator,
I suggest a formal schedule
and sitting for meditation in
a prepared environment.

For experienced meditators,
this can be done while eyes
are opened or closed, and
while engaged in other activity.




--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, bhalla
sandeep <gradbm@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Jeff B Belyea <jeff@m...> wrote:
>
> Pardon. I posted and
> then deleted to correct
> a glaring mis-type.
>
> Then re-posted the
> corrected post.
>
> Time to meditate and
> ssssllllloooooow down.
>
>
> hi jeff, this is sandeep here in india. i really did not get your
message. hey tell me how do you meditate. what do you do or
not do in meditation. do write and interact with me as we will
mutually gain from each other.bye for now
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#13391 From: bhalla sandeep <gradbm@...>
Date: Thu Nov 4, 2004 12:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] What?
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Jeff Belyea <jeff@...> wrote:

Hi Sandeep -

My meditation is a simple one.
I rarely sit for formal meditation,
although I did for several years.
Now my meditation is more ongoing,
an undercurrent of daily activity.

The meditation I teach is to:

On occasion simply stop and
come into the present moment
and present environment - just
allow for a  quiet awareness,
without any internal dialogue
(as much as possible).

Then, maintaining the quiet
awareness, notice your breathing -
and follow the flow of inhaling
and exhaling. Allow the quiet
relaxation this brings to move
you into longer and longer
periods of silence, without
the internal dialogue. To
help sustain this:

Next,  "listen" internally and
focus attention in the area
of the heart. With each breath,
listen for the message of
the "mystic heart", a nonverbal
"wisdom whisper".

For some, this wisdom whisper
is "heard" after only a few
meditations, and for others it
takes years.

For the beginning meditator,
I suggest a formal schedule
and sitting for meditation in
a prepared environment.

For experienced meditators,
this can be done while eyes
are opened or closed, and
while engaged in other activity.




--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, bhalla
sandeep <gradbm@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Jeff B Belyea <jeff@m...> wrote:
>
> Pardon. I posted and
> then deleted to correct
> a glaring mis-type.
>
> Then re-posted the
> corrected post.
>
> Time to meditate and
> ssssllllloooooow down.
>
>
> hi jeff, this is sandeep here in india. i really did not get your
message. hey tell me how do you meditate. what do you do or
not do in meditation. do write and interact with me as we will
mutually gain from each other.bye for now
>
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>
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#13392 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Sat Nov 6, 2004 3:51 am
Subject: Book Reviewers Wanted
medit8ionsoc...
 
It seems like it is becoming practically a daily event for us to
receive books submitted either for review in The Inner Traveler or for
listing in the Suggested Reading section of our web site, Meditation
Station. So, we intend to start including more reviews with each
upcoming issue, and will be contacting our web master about expanding
our Suggested Reading section. For The Inner Traveler, this will
necessitate having a few volunteers to review the books. We now have
several excellent ones waiting to be read. If you are interested in
becoming a reviewer, please feel free to email me at
medit8@... and let's discuss this opportunity to
share your impressions with our members and readers.
Peace and blessings,
Bob Rose, President,
Meditation Society of America

#13393 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Sat Nov 6, 2004 6:45 am
Subject: Dante's 2 years old
medit8ionsoc...
 
Two years and 160+ pounds ago Dante was just born. He's sweet, funny
and happy, and is continually teaching us about gentleness, honesty,
and unqualified love. We are very blessed to be able to share his energy.
His picture is posted in the photo section #51.
Happy birthday son!

#13394 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Sun Nov 7, 2004 12:08 am
Subject: Meditation
medit8ionsoc...
 
"Meditation is not a matter of life or death. It's much more important
than that."
Kir Li Molari

#13395 From: "Jerry Katz" <jerry@...>
Date: Sun Nov 7, 2004 1:14 pm
Subject: Re: Book Reviewers Wanted
nondualguy
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> Message: 1        
>   Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 03:51:53 -0000
>   From: medit8ionsociety
> Subject: Book Reviewers Wanted
>
>
> It seems like it is becoming practically a daily event for us to
> receive books submitted either for review in The Inner Traveler or for
> listing in the Suggested Reading section of our web site, Meditation
> Station. So, we intend to start including more reviews with each
> upcoming issue, and will be contacting our web master about expanding
> our Suggested Reading section. For The Inner Traveler, this will
> necessitate having a few volunteers to review the books. We now have
> several excellent ones waiting to be read. If you are interested in
> becoming a reviewer, please feel free to email me at
> medit8@... and let's discuss this opportunity to
> share your impressions with our members and readers.
> Peace and blessings,
> Bob Rose, President,
> Meditation Society of America
Potential reviewers might want to look at this article on how to review books: http://www.library.dal.ca/how/bookrev.htm
 
There are reviews and there are reviews. It's not too challenging to read a book and write a paragraph or two about it. It's another story to write something in accord with the guidelines presented at the link above.
 
Maybe, Bob, you'd want to create your own set of guidelines so that reviewers know what to expect and understand what they have to do.
 
Here's a briefer list of guidelines for reviewing: http://www.well.com/user/ladyhawk/bookrevs.html
 
Because a proper review takes many hours -- reading, writing, re-writing -- I'm only doing ones for books that I really like and that I think are significant contributions to nonduality literature. There aren't many of those. I recently did one for The Sacred Mirror: http://tinyurl.com/3rxcg.
 
It seems as though the state of publishing in the genre of nonduality is one of identifying and presenting nondual people, teachers, gurus, and presenting and explaining Advaita or nonduality. There are a number of works that are worthwhile and important, but there's always a demand for QUALITY CREATIVE works. Jed McKenna's work is captivating teaching-fiction. Of course Ken Wilber is on a level of his own. Eckhart Tolle struck a chord. Jerry Wennstrom is interesting.  Pradhhep Chhalliyil took a nondual/Upanishadic look at The Matrix in his book. Chuck Hillig has an interesting angle with his simplicity style. Deepak Chopra succeeds (but his fiction failed). Byron Katie has a whole new shot going. Sentient Publications just published a book by a guy named John Levy, who is Wei Wu Wei-like, but is unknown and passed away some years ago.
 
I'm not saying these 'interesting' books are more important or useful than those that are more traditional in their process, style, and format. They're just different, while being effective in a nondual way. Because they're different, they're more fun for me to read. And because they're different it's possible they could expand the audience of readers of nonduality books. Having said all that, ANYTHING that's extremely well written interests me, though I don't get around to all of it.
 
Those are some thoughts on book reviewing and my take on what I like to review and what I think is interesting.
 
Jerry
 

#13396 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Sun Nov 7, 2004 7:09 pm
Subject: Re: Book Reviewers Wanted
medit8ionsoc...
 
Thanks to my cuz, Sri Jerryji for the insightful commentary and the
links to the excellent articles. We also get some pointings directly
from authors that let us know of the availability of their works. We
received just such a one today, and found excerpts from many "rave"
reviews of the book that indeed did stir the desire to read the book....

"many people find my book helpful in their meditation practice --
interfaith - as it is a collection of immediate teachings from many
diverse sources - eastern and western, modern and ancient, etc."

365 Nivana Here and Now
Josh Baran
Thorsons / Element

www.nirvanaherenow.com

warm wishes,

josh

As far as the articles that deal with how to write book reviews, the
shorter article lists two things (of 10) that don't apply to The Inner
Traveler. The author says that you shouldn't review books by people
you know or love (or hate). But we don't mind at all if you review a
friend's, or someone you admire's, book. I think this can add an
insight into where the author is coming from. Also, we only review
"Suggested Readings", so only favorable reviews will be considered for
publication. In any event, we hope that our reviews will reach the
eloquence and wisdom-sharing that you have demonstrated in yours. Thanks!
Peace and blessings,
Bob


--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Katz"
<jerry@n...> wrote:
>
>
> > Message: 1
> >   Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 03:51:53 -0000
> >   From: medit8ionsociety
> > Subject: Book Reviewers Wanted
> >
> >
> > It seems like it is becoming practically a daily event for us to
> > receive books submitted either for review in The Inner Traveler or for
> > listing in the Suggested Reading section of our web site, Meditation
> > Station. So, we intend to start including more reviews with each
> > upcoming issue, and will be contacting our web master about expanding
> > our Suggested Reading section. For The Inner Traveler, this will
> > necessitate having a few volunteers to review the books. We now have
> > several excellent ones waiting to be read. If you are interested in
> > becoming a reviewer, please feel free to email me at
> > medit8@m... and let's discuss this opportunity to
> > share your impressions with our members and readers.
> > Peace and blessings,
> > Bob Rose, President,
> > Meditation Society of America
>
> Potential reviewers might want to look at this article on how to
review books: http://www.library.dal.ca/how/bookrev.htm
>
> There are reviews and there are reviews. It's not too challenging to
read a book and write a paragraph or two about it. It's another story
to write something in accord with the guidelines presented at the link
above.
>
> Maybe, Bob, you'd want to create your own set of guidelines so that
reviewers know what to expect and understand what they have to do.
>
> Here's a briefer list of guidelines for reviewing:
http://www.well.com/user/ladyhawk/bookrevs.html
>
> Because a proper review takes many hours -- reading, writing,
re-writing -- I'm only doing ones for books that I really like and
that I think are significant contributions to nonduality literature.
There aren't many of those. I recently did one for The Sacred Mirror:
http://tinyurl.com/3rxcg.
>
> It seems as though the state of publishing in the genre of
nonduality is one of identifying and presenting nondual people,
teachers, gurus, and presenting and explaining Advaita or nonduality.
There are a number of works that are worthwhile and important, but
there's always a demand for QUALITY CREATIVE works. Jed McKenna's work
is captivating teaching-fiction. Of course Ken Wilber is on a level of
his own. Eckhart Tolle struck a chord. Jerry Wennstrom is interesting.
  Pradhhep Chhalliyil took a nondual/Upanishadic look at The Matrix in
his book. Chuck Hillig has an interesting angle with his simplicity
style. Deepak Chopra succeeds (but his fiction failed). Byron Katie
has a whole new shot going. Sentient Publications just published a
book by a guy named John Levy, who is Wei Wu Wei-like, but is unknown
and passed away some years ago.
>
> I'm not saying these 'interesting' books are more important or
useful than those that are more traditional in their process, style,
and format. They're just different, while being effective in a nondual
way. Because they're different, they're more fun for me to read. And
because they're different it's possible they could expand the audience
of readers of nonduality books. Having said all that, ANYTHING that's
extremely well written interests me, though I don't get around to all
of it.
>
> Those are some thoughts on book reviewing and my take on what I like
to review and what I think is interesting.
>
> Jerry
> http://nonduality.com

#13397 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Sun Nov 7, 2004 9:29 pm
Subject: More Zen and the Art of Knifemaking
medit8ionsoc...
 
This time we have a 16" skinner with a damascus blade and a moose
antler handle. The pics have been uploaded into our Photo section (#52
and 53). There seems to be something similar about learning to
meditate with learning to make knives. There were many times that
nothing seemed to be going "right". But with the encouragement of
others (who really know the process) to persevere, something now
exists that didn't before. And perhaps there is even a kind of beauty
that can be shared in this particular "something".
Peace and blessings,
Bob

#13398 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Tue Nov 9, 2004 12:53 am
Subject: US News & World Article Help Needed
medit8ionsoc...
 
Bob,
I am hoping you can help with an article I'm working on for
USNews&World Report magazine… Any insight, advice or actual contacts
would be much appreciated...
You might mention to your members that I'm looking for:

An American citizen currently living in the US whose life has been
changed, for the better, by meditation - preferably someone who's
relatively new to the practice, say the past 3-5 years. This could be
a man or woman with a medical condition whose doctor recommended
meditation and whose health has improved, or someone focusing on
stress reduction, for example.
This person should be willing to go on the record and can contact me
at carolynkleiner@... anytime this week, through Nov. 12th, if
interested.

Thanks again and all best,
Carolyn Kleiner
carolynkleiner@...

#13399 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:38 am
Subject: Weekly Words of Wisdom of Swami Satchidananda
medit8ionsoc...
 
"There is a Guru in all of us. The external Guru and the Teachings are
there to guide you to go within and recognize that Guru within, who is
constantly guiding you. It's almost like a mirror showing you your
face. The mirror doesn't have a face of its own. It simply reflects
your face. No one has seen his or her own face. Have you ever seen
your face? Do you know you even have a face? Have you seen it? Only in
the mirror. In the mirror you don't see your actual face. What you see
in the mirror is the reflection. Like that, you are the Guru but you
have not seen it. The external Guru is there to point out the Guru
within you.

God bless you. Om Shanthi, Shanthi, Shanthi."

For more about Swamiji:
http://www.swamisatchidananda.org

#13400 From: "Jeff Belyea" <jeff@...>
Date: Fri Nov 12, 2004 8:46 pm
Subject: New Book on Meditation
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"How To Meditate Using Chakras,
Mantras and Breath" by Dr. Dennis Chernin, M.D.

at http://www.spiritwells.com

click on the books tab.

#13401 From: "Era" <mi_nok@...>
Date: Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:13 am
Subject: Understanding is ALL
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-Nisargadatta Maharaj:

The funny thing about enlightenment
is that it reveals the self-evident.
It is nothing more than the discovery
of what you already are - pure being
which creates and experiences its own
  world. It is simply the art of seeing
the obvious.

         * * *

The most perfect and direct expression
of Nonduality is the silence of Being
But, since silence is a somewhat
ambiguous communication tool, we
concede grudgingly to the use and proliferation of slightly less
ambiguous words and concepts.




    metta, Era


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#13402 From: "Jeff Belyea" <jeff@...>
Date: Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:19 pm
Subject: Life On Automatic Pilot
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Ever pull into your driveway
and suddenly realize that you
have no recall of driving
the last few miles? It is as
though you were on automatic pilot
and somehow safely navigated
your way through traffic and
made the right turns that
brought you home, without being
"there", consciously driving.

Now imagine a mode of being in
which you could actually witness
the driving and feel as though
you were watching yourself drive -
while still on automatic pilot.

The witnessing "you" would not
be consciously driving...
and the physical/sensual "you"
would not be consciously driving.

Who would be driving?

Meditation can bring you to
this mode of being in which
you witness your life, your
daily activities, and the course
of your life going on without
conscious control, without
emotional or even rational
or judgmental interference.

And, for some, even the
witness fades or merges
into the automatic pilot
mode...and life is transformed.

This transformation is not
into a state of stupefied beatitude,
but rather a clear and quiet
confident way that has
absolute trust in "the
automatic pilot". The
joy of this mode of being
is indescribable, and
may seem paradoxical -
in that giving up conscious
control suddenly brings
realization that you are in
complete control.

Life becomes spontaneous
and events flow harmoniously.
Opportunities present themselves,
solutions present themselves,
questions dissolve, the sky opens,
doors open, and you go through
the door without any of the
"should I or shouldn't I"
forethought.

From this perspective, you
realize that "you" are not
merely the separate self,
but are one with consciousness
itself. This is a "stepping
into perfection", written
of in Christian scripture
as available to those who
are interested in what are
called "advanced teachings".

This is the truth that sets
you free; free from fear and
doubt, free from the social god
of what-will-other-people-think,
free from freaking out over virtually
anything. It is a moving
out of the drama of the soap
opera life and into clarity -
seeing, knowing and accepting
the course of your life and
the events of your life as
already perfected.

Enjoying life on automatic pilot,


Jeff

#13403 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Tue Nov 16, 2004 4:00 am
Subject: From the Mouths of Babes
medit8ionsoc...
 
A father was approached by his small son, who told him proudly,
"I know what the Bible means!"
His father smiled and replied, "What do you mean, you 'know' what the
Bible means?"
The son replied, "I do know!"
"Okay," said his father. "So, son, what does the Bible mean?"
"B---Basic I---Instructions B---Before L---Leaving E---Earth"

#13404 From: "dukef16cd" <dukef16cd@...>
Date: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:32 pm
Subject: the final analysis
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enjoy....


The Final Analysis
People are often unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered;
...Forgive them anyway!

If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives;
...Be kind anyway!

If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true
enemies;
...Succeed anyway!

If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you;
...Be honest and frank anyway!

What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight;
...Build anyway!

If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous;
...Be happy anyway!

The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow;
...Do good anyway!

Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough;
...Give the world the best you've got anyway!

You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and God;
It was never between you and them anyway.

by

Mother Teresa
1910 - 1997

#13405 From: cindy e <butterfly10954@...>
Date: Wed Nov 17, 2004 2:05 pm
Subject: Intro
butterfly10954
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Hi everyone!  I am new here and have been meditating on and off for a few years. I am trying to redevelop my practice. I am a little confused with all the different types of meditation, and am trying to decide which one is right for me.
I had been taught to focus on my breathing, which works quite well for me. But I am also interested in other types of meditation, such as mantra meditation, etc.
Hope to share and learn from you all!
Namaste, Cindy


   

 


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#13406 From: Bob Hart <hartbd_62521@...>
Date: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:12 am
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] Intro
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Hi Cindy, acouple of simple meditations are use a simple mantra, just pick out a meaning less phrase and repeat that as you breath out. (sham.  hum.  sat num.) or one of my favorites is saying a meaning full phrase.  I like using Namaste.  which means the spirit i me salutes the spirit in you. or a short bible verse or any short meaningfull phrase.   namaste Bob

#13407 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:38 am
Subject: Re: Intro
medit8ionsoc...
 
--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, cindy e
<butterfly10954@y...> wrote:
> Hi everyone!  I am new here and have been meditating on and off for
a few years. I am trying to redevelop my practice. I am a little
confused with all the different types of meditation, and am trying to
decide which one is right for me.
> I had been taught to focus on my breathing, which works quite well
for me. But I am also interested in other types of meditation, such as
mantra meditation, etc.
> Hope to share and learn from you all!
> Namaste, Cindy

Welcome Cindy,
The mantra most practiced is OM. In issue #8 of our newsletter, The
Inner Traveler, we had the great blessing of using some of the best OM
illustrations ever done, in conjunction with an article about OM. They
are the artwork of Daniel Holeman, who is clearly divinely gifted, and
is compassionate and gracious enough to be willing to share the
products of his (he)art-work with us. And gazing at OM, or any other
holy symbol, is one of the oldest meditation methods. Here is the URL
for that issue...
http://www.meditationsociety.com/it81019/index.html
It is about 2.5MB, so will take a while to download, unless you have a
high speed connection, but I am confident that you will find it worth
the wait. I hope this will be of benefit and enjoyment to you.
Peace and blessings,
(another) Bob

#13408 From: "veganlady21" <Lotusflowering@...>
Date: Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:14 pm
Subject: Aoha, Cindy!
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And welcome to the group! You say you are "a little confused with all
the different types of meditation," and well you should be -- there
are over 100 types of meditation out there!

I'm Rev. Sue Annabrooke Jones, the voice behind 'Mental Yentl, the
Meditation Matchmaker,' and my job is to use my mediumship abilities
to match the seeker with 8-12 meditation methods that are suited to
his or her unique situation. I work under the auspices of Ascended
Masters and the client's own spirit guides, who can see deeply into
the querent's spiritual energies. The meditation methods they
recommend for the individual have nothing to do with what works for
others, but rather with the individual's soul vibration, temperment
and life purpose.

You can learn about the Mental Yentl Reading and read what others are
saying about it at my website.

Bright blessings,

for 'MENTAL YENTL, THE MEDITATION MATCHMAKER,'

Rev. Sue Annabrooke Jones
http://CosmicLotus.org/MentalYentl
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#13409 From: "Jeff Belyea" <jeff@...>
Date: Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:11 pm
Subject: The narrow path
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Masters speak of a gate, a
narrow path, a straight way,
that leads to awakening.

There is also a narrow
meaning that must be
carefully discerned from
some of the more esoteric,
mystical and (especially!)
non-dual teachings. if one
is not to be discouraged
along the way, and left
in despair, thinking that
there is nothing they can
do to end their suffering
or assuage their longing.

When it is taught that no
volitional effort can bring
us closer to awakening,
because awakening is beyond
the rational process of mind,
apart from mind and logic,
and that; therefore, any
effort will come from ego
and thereby serve to
strengthen the ego rather
than lead to awakening...
this is true.

And so one might ask,
"Why meditate, why seek?"

Here is where the careful
discernment is required.

The volitional effort of sitting
for meditation, attending
satsang or classes, and
the effort of seeking out and
listening to the teachings of
authentic teacher is not
"wrong action".  It is rather
preparatory to entering
the narrow path, the place
of no effort, no internal
dialogue, no attempts to
explain or presume.

These preparatory activities
serve to strength "faith, hope
and trust " in the authenticity of
enlightenment. The teachings
that speak of the peace of mind,
joy and new understanding
that enlightenment, awakening
and realization will bring, will
resonate in the searching and
seeking, intuitively stirring, heart.

Effort precedes grace.
The "mystery" is...

the exquisite timing of when
to completely surrender concepts
and enter the noble silence beyond
seeking, beyond desire of
any sort, is...

entrance onto the narrow path.

This part of the journey
begins only when the seeker,
the aspirant, the inquirer
is ready to finally give up
any and all concepts, any
activity of mind or ego, that
attempt to frame or explain
what the aspirant does not
know experientially.

There is nothing that one
can or should do to try
to "figure out" awakening.

There are no words sufficient.
Awakening is wholly experiential,
arising from within - as startling
wisdom.

Deep inquiry, ardent seeking,
any and all mind stuff must
be silenced in order to "hear"
the wisdom whisper of awakening,
allowing the natural state of
enlightenment (that we were
socialized and coerced out
of experiencing as the
ever-present undercurrent
of our lives) to be "re-discovered".

Effort precedes grace. Silence
precedes awakening.

Meditation is a tool for silencing
the mind and the concepts, so
that the seeker may step onto
the narrow path of silence and
non-activity, open a pure heart
to Truth beyond what can be
thought or imagined, and,
by grace, awaken.

#13410 From: "°:-\)" <n0by4you@...>
Date: Sat Nov 20, 2004 8:03 am
Subject: Ramrod recognizes an awakened hara
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http://www.n0by.de/n0/ka/ka32.htm
 
 

Ramrod recognizes an awakened hara

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Thu Nov 18, 2004  1:01 am

N0by,

there is no need to describe an "awakened" hara in any way.

First of all the effects are so strong and so "bodily", that nobody is probably ever going to mis-take it for (say) the usual "spiritual feelings" after intense meditations, which are often just phantasies, mild illusions or projections of religious/spriritual concepts.

To mistake it with anything else is only possible, if the Hara is not totally open i.e. if it's just a little open. Most probable explanation then might be some "strange sort of illness" - because Hara-opening is a psychosomatic phenomenon, the body is an integral part of it. But when it's really open, the energy moves your body. For example, there is no room for wishy-washy explanations, if the hand of an invisible Giant had just thrown you on the earth and keept you there for some undefined time, while your spine is electrified joy and the body shakes all over, as if every cell of it has gone to the dance club.

Secondly, up to now I've never heard or read it to be called "Hara awakening". That's not how I would describe the feeling and that's not the energetical happening. "Opening", yes, or "breaking through", yes, or "removing blocks", "activating the energy", "falling into the energy" or even "awakening the energy" yes. If Ramarshi calls it "awakening of the Hara", that's fine with me - but misleading for people who have not yet experienced it themselves. The Hara is just like a door, when you are awake, you open it and step thru. But the door itself is neither "awake", nor was is "asleep" before - it was just closed/blocked.


Third: the need for explanations vanishes. Open Hara means your energy goes more into the belly and less into the head than before. So how to explain a thing which takes away our wish for explanations? And why explain it then? And who would want to explain something which is a personal experience?

Ever heard some girls talking about how an orgasm feels like? How to get there - yes, that's a practical question. But then she either knows or she doesn't. Explaining it is the consolation price.
 

 

Ramarshi is said to have written:
 .....
 An awakened hara you notice when your eyes feel as if they are four times bigger than normal. Are your eyes feeling so while reading this mail. My eyes are feeling that way just now.
 And more over, you will notice that thoughts and emotions stay away from you when your hara is wake. I guess thoughts hate the presence of the wakeful hara, just like poor Sakal and  Tanmayo hate my presence here at your list.  BTW, when you wonder why Tanmayo does not like my sharing  here, see the mails i wrote to her at:
 http://www.ramarshi.de
 .....Ramarshi


No comment. Draw your own conclusions.

 

Kabir

--

Certified trainer for "Dynamic

Body Energy Release"

(Bodhidharma's technique

for Kundalini-activation

and Hara-opening).

10 years experience.


 


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#13411 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:02 am
Subject: On Being a Meditation Teacher
medit8ionsoc...
 
"When one is positioned by the universe to be in the position of
teaching this sacred wisdom, it is congruent with flowing with the
highest aspirations of the universe - sharing pure consciousness
ItSelf, as the means to evolve ItSelf."
Kir LI Molari

#13412 From: "°:-\)" <n0by4you@...>
Date: Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:23 am
Subject: Kundalini breaks through - beyond logic
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Dear Readers,
 
if your logical system agrees or  disagrees
if you integrate words for your presentation,
if words from this or another book, from
this or another wisdom-entertainer resonate
with your own mind frame, has not much
to do with your real process, cooking inside.
 
This real process cooking inside boils
beyond mind, far beyond mind all
our knowledge, our self esteem and
opens the greatest door possible:
 
the door to reality
 
 
 
This is where mind experience ends.
There starts a body experience.
My Munich friend Michael has
travelled in more than 20 ardous years
of efforts, without questions of costs,
reputation, money in deep trust and
surrender to his teachers Bhagwan
and Bodhidharma to and over the
 
point of no return.
 
 
 
 
From now nearly five years of
personal meetings and guidance
in Michael's infinite patient, honest
and noble way, to share his ultimate
experience, Michael lives and gives with
 
his inner door open.
 
 
When all logical approach fails to ''understand'',
maybe your own experience gives you
a chance to connect deeper with this
existencial understanding from Michael ?
 
 
 
 
 
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welcome (partly) in reality, Valerie

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Mon Nov 22, 2004  7:55 pm


 
valerie, I read from you:

> ANY "mentors" around?
> because I most certainly need one
> (in case no one notices).



Interesting. The moment I started reading your posts
I recognized, that you should better be left alone
though Kundalini raising symptoms where allready all
over your posts. Perhaps you had had enough of therapy
for the rest of your lives? .o)



Now you say, you "most certainly need a mentor". Hhhmmm.


What an u-trun. So the Energy has become stronger?
That's good IMO.
Too strong for you to handle it?
That's not so good
(I mean trying to "handle" it).
 

And what should this mentor do then?


Help you control it again?
 

That would be as if a midwife helps you to push back
the baby instead of helping you to deliver it.

In some early stages of pregnancy that might be
the right thing to do, but in your case I think,
that might be a little late, don't you agree?

And how should this "most certainly needed" mentor
help you? If you (or: as you?) allready know what you
need and what to do, then she/he is not needed.

First and last of all make yourself ready for it.

From my experience I know, that sincery seeker get
sincere helpers, egocentric meet egocentric ones,
egoistic meet egoistic and stubbornness meets
stubborness. What might be yours like?

Also from my experience I'd say:

Look at yourself, prepare yourself as best as you can
by being honest to yourself about where you stand
and what you know and what not. Ruthless honest towards
and about yourself.

And prepare for somebody else deciding what you need.

During the sessions with my spiritual friends (there
were two, first a female, later a male), she/he decided
when I needed to go to the toilet or drink some water.

And of course they decided when the session would end -
not seldomly when the sun came up again after a long,
intense night.
 

You think you could manage to create that much TRUST?

The more you can trust the more trustworthy will be the
trainer, whom you finally get.

Ah, yes: as soon as it's decided who trains you
(decided not by you, but by the trainer with your
allowance), then trust only this one trainer.

Listen only to this one person. Only one. Not two.

Don't even trust your own mind,
if it's against the trainer. because part of her/his
job will be to bring up the suppressed stuff in you,
and this Pandora-stuff will influence your judgement
immensely (and unnoticable for you).

Good luck

Michael


 

From my experience I know, that sincery seeker get
sincere helpers, egocentric meet egocentric ones,
egoistic meet egoistic and stubbornness meets
stubborness. What might be yours like?

 


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Re: welcome (partly) in reality, Valerie

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Mon Nov 22, 2004  10:03 pm


 

Valerie said:
> i've pretty much noticed that everyone thinks i'm a TROLL;

You behaved pretty like it. I thought and still think, that this was just a phase of strong and illogical and unsocial expression - which is regularily triggered by Kundalini beginning to raise. This way Energy starts to clean the system from "educated" behaviour-patterns (like having to be friendly, having to answer when asked something etc.). At the same time the unsocial behaviour will get negative responses from others, thus the social-dependence (ego) is reduced, too.

Later you have the unsocial beaviour at your fingetips should
you feel the need for it, but are no longer reduced to only that.

So don't be astonished if it comes again in certain situations or towards certain people; it may then go away as fast as it comes. The overall, final result is more freedom for you and others.

A "broader spectrum of expression" so to say.

Not to be taken as an excuse but as an explanation.

All velly natulal, missis, and velly plactical

flom the viewpoint of the enelgy. ,O)

 


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Date: Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:41 pm
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