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#9601 From: "James Winkler" <jrwinkler@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:46 am
Subject: RE: [MedievalSawdust] Master Charles web site missing?
rivendalehall
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Hey all…  well, I was going through the mail and noticed this thread…  as this isn’t the first time a site has apparently gone the way of all things (i.e., belly up in the fish tank of life), I’m going to be putting the site up under my own domain…  I’ll post details once I get this done.    Who knows… might even get around to putting some new stuff up there one of these days…  in any case, a big thanks to the folks at www.livinghistory.org  for having copied the site and keeping it going… 

 

Your most obdn’t servant –

Chas.


#9602 From: "James Winkler" <jrwinkler@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:01 am
Subject: New Web Site for Chas. Oakley
rivendalehall
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 WELL… that sure went faster than I expected.   Just got the word that the website can now be found at:

 

www.mastercharlesoakley.com

 

I checked it out… there are two plans where the pictures didn’t show up… but then they weren’t on the livinghistory.org site either… gonna’ have to dig through my files and see if I can find em’ and fix the site up a bit.

 

Chas.


#9603 From: "logan" <logan@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:47 am
Subject: RE: [MedievalSawdust] New Web Site for Chas. Oakley
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has anyone made the bed listed on his site?  if so, please let us know of any issues or advancements you came up with.  and, if so, post some pictures.  my camp bed is five years old and is wonderful but is too large to pack for weekend events so it lives in my trailer at pennsic.  i need to make a smaller (take apart) bed for those weekend events.

 

regards

logan

 

 

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared"

Niccolo Machiavelli

www.ebonwoulfe.com


From: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com [mailto:medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Winkler
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:01 PM
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MedievalSawdust] New Web Site for Chas. Oakley

 

 WELL… that sure went faster than I expected.   Just got the word that the website can now be found at:

 

www.mastercharlesoakley.com

 

I checked it out… there are two plans where the pictures didn’t show up… but then they weren’t on the livinghistory.org site either… gonna’ have to dig through my files and see if I can find em’ and fix the site up a bit.

 

Chas.


#9604 From: "logan" <logan@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:53 am
Subject: RE: [MedievalSawdust] New Web Site for Chas. Oakley
dukelogan1
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ooops.  sorry, the “medieval” one, not the one indicative of people that went a viking.

 

regards

logan

 

 

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared"

Niccolo Machiavelli

www.ebonwoulfe.com


From: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com [mailto:medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of logan
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:48 PM
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MedievalSawdust] New Web Site for Chas. Oakley

 

has anyone made the bed listed on his site?  if so, please let us know of any issues or advancements you came up with.  and, if so, post some pictures.  my camp bed is five years old and is wonderful but is too large to pack for weekend events so it lives in my trailer at pennsic.  i need to make a smaller (take apart) bed for those weekend events.

 

regards

logan

 

 

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared"

Niccolo Machiavelli

www.ebonwoulfe.com


From: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com [mailto:medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Winkler
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:01 PM
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MedievalSawdust] New Web Site for Chas. Oakley

 

 WELL… that sure went faster than I expected.   Just got the word that the website can now be found at:

 

www.mastercharlesoakley.com

 

I checked it out… there are two plans where the pictures didn’t show up… but then they weren’t on the livinghistory.org site either… gonna’ have to dig through my files and see if I can find em’ and fix the site up a bit.

 

Chas.


#9605 From: "James Winkler" <jrwinkler@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:06 am
Subject: RE: [MedievalSawdust] New Web Site for Chas. Oakley
rivendalehall
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Hey Logan, 

 

My own input on the “SCA bed” goes like this.  That is the one m’Lady and I have used for years.  I go 230 to 240 depending on the week and it’s held up well for many years… in fact, we still have it.   If your transport is a truck the plywood pieces for the platform work well if they’re the first parts in the bed of the truck.  The rest of it packs pretty small.    If I were to make it over again I’d probably consider making the legs just a touch taller (to slide things under the bed easier… )…    Using a futon on it *can* make it a rather… ummm… “firm” night’s rest…  particularly if the  futon begins to compress down… ;-)     

 

It’s a simple set up/tear down bed.  M’Lady has, on occasion set it up and taken it apart by herself without difficulty. 

 

Like you, I’d like to hear if anybody else has built it and what their perceptions were… 

 

Chas.


#9606 From: Lewis Newby <dragon@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:32 am
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Master Charles web site missing?
ian_the_fariner
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I still have all the original files but have been unable to get my domain going again.

Farin

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On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:46 PM, James Winkler wrote:


Hey all…  well, I was going through the mail and noticed this thread…  as this isn’t the first time a site has apparently gone the way of all things (i.e., belly up in the fish tank of life), I’m going to be putting the site up under my own domain…  I’ll post details once I get this done.    Who knows… might even get around to putting some new stuff up there one of these days…  in any case, a big thanks to the folks at www.livinghistory.org  for having copied the site and keeping it going… 

 

Your most obdn’t servant –

Chas.




#9607 From: "Jim Looper" <jimlooper@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:39 am
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] New Web Site for Chas. Oakley
jimlooper1970
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I made a queen-sized one for Brig and myself for Gulf Wars. Instead of using a rabbit and pocket mortise for the slat, I used 5 slats with mortise and tenons. It held up extremely well for GW, Midsummer's Twilight Tourney, and War of the Wings II. Looking at close to/slightly over 400 #'s of combined weight. I raised the bed a bit to fit our war totes under the bed (note: When I make another one, I will run another support from the head post to the foot post to add linear stability). When it is just me, I do not take the posts (used leftover pieces to make "corners" for a ground bed). I'd also recommend splitting the plywood lengthwise for compacting it further (those get a couple of old army blankets to lay between the wood and an air mattress to keep it from pinching a hole...)
 
As a side question to the group as a whole: All wood beds squeak. I have been considering shaving the tenons down a wee bit and gluing felt to them as a noise dampener. Has anyone tried this or something similar? How about leather?
 
Lucien
 
----- Original Message -----
From: logan
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:47 PM
Subject: RE: [MedievalSawdust] New Web Site for Chas. Oakley

has anyone made the bed listed on his site?  if so, please let us know of any issues or advancements you came up with.  and, if so, post some pictures.  my camp bed is five years old and is wonderful but is too large to pack for weekend events so it lives in my trailer at pennsic.  i need to make a smaller (take apart) bed for those weekend events.

 

regards

logan

 

 

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared"

Niccolo Machiavelli

www.ebonwoulfe.com


#9608 From: "Jan-Simon Hoogschagen" <jan-simon@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:52 pm
Subject: Re: Oseberg archaeology reports
jansimon
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I have access to volume 5 of this series. It is a huge book and
although interesting, I do not think it is of much use in the context
of this group.
Nevertheless, I should try to borrow it, just in order to make a copy
of it (with digital camera, as no normal scanner would be big enough
for the book) because it is very rare.

Jan-Simon


--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, Beth and Bob Matney
<bmatney@...> wrote:
>
> You are most welcome.
>
> Beth
>
> At 09:35 AM 2/28/2008, you wrote:
> >That is incredible information you are making available, thank you
very much!
> >
> >Saeth
>

#9609 From: Beth and Bob Matney <bmatney@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: Oseberg archaeology reports
bmatney2000
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Each volume of the set is of the same large folio format... including
Vol 4 (Textiles) that was released in 2006. I agree that there
probably is not a lot of Volume 5 of interest to this group. I have
digital images of all except some of the large fold out plates
(skulls) in the back.

If you have access to any of the other volumes, I am missing a few
things from volume 3 that had been torn out and a couple of plates
from Volume 1, that I would really like to get to complete my set.

Beth

At 06:52 AM 2/29/2008, you wrote:
>I have access to volume 5 of this series. It is a huge book and
>although interesting, I do not think it is of much use in the context
>of this group.
>Nevertheless, I should try to borrow it, just in order to make a copy
>of it (with digital camera, as no normal scanner would be big enough
>for the book) because it is very rare.
>
>Jan-Simon
>
>
>--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, Beth and Bob Matney
><bmatney@...> wrote:
> >
> > You are most welcome.
> >
> > Beth
> >
> > At 09:35 AM 2/28/2008, you wrote:
> > >That is incredible information you are making available, thank you
>very much!
> > >
> > >Saeth

#9610 From: "Eric" <ewdysar@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:23 pm
Subject: Re: New Web Site for Chas. Oakley
ewdysar
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I have noticed that if my Gokstad slat bed (based on the Oakley
plans)only makes noise if the tenon pegs are beginning to loosen.
With all the pegs snug, the bed is silent under a variety of dynamic
stresses.  ;)

Yours in Service,
Eirikr Mjoksiglandi
Ashgrove, Barony of Angels, Caid

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Looper" <jimlooper@...>
wrote:
>
> As a side question to the group as a whole: All wood beds squeak.
I have been considering shaving the tenons down a wee bit and gluing
felt to them as a noise dampener. Has anyone tried this or something
similar? How about leather?
>
> Lucien
>

#9611 From: "Bill McNutt" <mcnutt@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:09 pm
Subject: RE: [MedievalSawdust] Re: New Web Site for Chas. Oakley
billmcnutt
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You need to use hardwood, though.  Or a good hard pine.  Soft framing lumber crushes at the joints, rounds off, and allows the pegs to work loose easier.

 

Squeekie-squeekie-squeekie

 

Will

 


From: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com [mailto:medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:23 PM
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Re: New Web Site for Chas. Oakley

 

I have noticed that if my Gokstad slat bed (based on the Oakley
plans)only makes noise if the tenon pegs are beginning to loosen.
With all the pegs snug, the bed is silent under a variety of dynamic
stresses. ;)

Yours in Service,
Eirikr Mjoksiglandi
Ashgrove, Barony of Angels, Caid

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Looper" <jimlooper@...>
wrote:
>
> As a side question to the group as a whole: All wood beds squeak.
I have been considering shaving the tenons down a wee bit and gluing
felt to them as a noise dampener. Has anyone tried this or something
similar? How about leather?
>
> Lucien
>


#9612 From: Lewis Newby <dragon@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: New Web Site for Chas. Oakley
ian_the_fariner
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Having made several of these I have seen them put under some incredible weight loadings ( 6 large adults lounging around on one for instance ). Hardwood is a must on this scenario though. I have used Ash, Cherry, and Oak. My personal one is a queen size with Ash frame and white oak slats and has lasted for 8+ years at a couple hundred events and was used in my sons room for a while cause he liked it. 

The one place I ran into a problem is with one particular couple and the gentleman was a little overzealous driving the pegs into the center slat and blew out the mortis twice. His lady has since told him if he does it again he has to fix it or make a new slat cause she won't ask me to again.

As for noise, when it is tight none can be heard, at Pennsic I have to re-tap them periodically because of weather conditions.

The tenons can be real knee knockers though so be sure and round them off well.


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On Feb 29, 2008, at 3:23 PM, Eric wrote:

I have noticed that if my Gokstad slat bed (based on the Oakley 
plans)only makes noise if the tenon pegs are beginning to loosen. 
With all the pegs snug, the bed is silent under a variety of dynamic 
stresses. ;)

Yours in Service,
Eirikr Mjoksiglandi
Ashgrove, Barony of Angels, Caid

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Looper" <jimlooper@...> 
wrote:
>
> As a side question to the group as a whole: All wood beds squeak. 
I have been considering shaving the tenons down a wee bit and gluing 
felt to them as a noise dampener. Has anyone tried this or something 
similar? How about leather?
> 
> Lucien
> 



#9613 From: jimlooper@...
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:20 pm
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: New Web Site for Chas. Oakley
jimlooper1970
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Okay, it was at Gulf Wars where I ran into the problem; and we know how GW can
be in regards to humidity shifts...

Lucien


----- Original Message -----
From: Lewis Newby <dragon@...>
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:22:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: New Web Site for Chas. Oakley


As for noise, when it is tight none can be heard, at Pennsic I have
to re-tap them periodically because of weather conditions.

The tenons can be real knee knockers though so be sure and round them
off well.


Lewis Newby
Jr.

#9614 From: "Bill McNutt" <mcnutt@...>
Date: Sat Mar 1, 2008 7:30 am
Subject: RE: [MedievalSawdust] Re: New Web Site for Chas. Oakley
billmcnutt
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I’ve learned to avoid that by cross-pinning the mortise with a dowel.  It doesn’t take much.  Just a quarter-inch or so.

 

Will

 


From: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com [mailto:medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Newby
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:23 PM
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: New Web Site for Chas. Oakley

 

Having made several of these I have seen them put under some incredible weight loadings ( 6 large adults lounging around on one for instance ). Hardwood is a must on this scenario though. I have used Ash, Cherry, and Oak. My personal one is a queen size with Ash frame and white oak slats and has lasted for 8+ years at a couple hundred events and was used in my sons room for a while cause he liked it.

 

The one place I ran into a problem is with one particular couple and the gentleman was a little overzealous driving the pegs into the center slat and blew out the mortis twice. His lady has since told him if he does it again he has to fix it or make a new slat cause she won't ask me to again.

 

As for noise, when it is tight none can be heard, at Pennsic I have to re-tap them periodically because of weather conditions.

 

The tenons can be real knee knockers though so be sure and round them off well.

 

 

Lewis Newby Jr. Email: dragon@neei.com

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On Feb 29, 2008, at 3:23 PM, Eric wrote:



I have noticed that if my Gokstad slat bed (based on the Oakley
plans)only makes noise if the tenon pegs are beginning to loosen.
With all the pegs snug, the bed is silent under a variety of dynamic
stresses. ;)

Yours in Service,
Eirikr Mjoksiglandi
Ashgrove, Barony of Angels, Caid

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Looper" <jimlooper@...>
wrote:
>
> As a side question to the group as a whole: All wood beds squeak.
I have been considering shaving the tenons down a wee bit and gluing
felt to them as a noise dampener. Has anyone tried this or something
similar? How about leather?
>
> Lucien
>

 


#9615 From: "Peter Valentine" <wolfgang@...>
Date: Sat Mar 1, 2008 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: War beds - an slightly different question.
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We have been using a 4 poster which I made nigh unto 10 years ago which has held up admirably.  The four redwood turned wooden posts consist of 3 segments each which friction fit into each other with turned tenon joints and the portions of the posts which accepted the plywood head/foot boards and side rails are thru mortised to allow  tongues to pass through the post and held with wedges in a fashion similar to the osberg beds.  The overall look is of a 15th century 4 poster but I used wedges to hold the elements together.  The bed is a slat bed with most of the slats resting on a cleat inside the rails (one in the center passes through to keep the rails from spreading).  http://www.roguehaven.org/Events/Estrella2005/Estrel22.jpg

This bed is a fusion of Osberg and late 15th century bed and is a compromise to my woodworking skills at the time.  It has stood up remarkable well.. .the only problem is the edge banding used to disguise the plywood has delaminated in a few spots requiring minor repair.  One day (when I get a round tuit) I plan on a much more accurate reproduction of a german 15th camp bed which was my original inspiration. 

Wolfgang


--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <michaelgosline@...> wrote:
>
> Out of all the war beds people have made and used, which designs seem
> to be the sturdiest?
>
> Which holds up to the most use and abuse?
>
> What kinds of woods have you tried?
>
> And has anyone had any "interesting failures" of a bed?
>
> As in, did one ever break on you while you were doing more than just
> sleeping on it!
>
> Mike...
>


#9616 From: "Peter Valentine" <wolfgang@...>
Date: Sat Mar 1, 2008 6:46 pm
Subject: Re: peanut crossbow
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In order to afford our SCA hobby we turned our crafting skills to making our hobby pay for itself and selling 1/3rd scale mini marshmallow crossbows earned enough money to buy several large period tents!  http://www.roguehaven.org/Merchanting/XBows/Crossbows.htm does not give you a design, but from the picture its easy enough to work out..

The key was the prods... finding a material that could act like crossbow prod that would work reliably without breaking and was quick and easy to manufacture... I was hunting for materials one day in my ladies sewing room when I knocked over a jar of ladies corset stays... and voila!

You can make a jig to bend an 8" corset stay into a prod shape and use a ground off 10 penney  nail and a strip of brass as a push pin and trigger. I also put a brass spring clip on top to securely hold the ammo..  I used hardwood (poplar) 1 by 2 as the lumber and cut it to shape.. drilled the hole for the pushpin aligned with the notch for the string (See the PDF instructions on that page) The groove for the ammo is routed on a router bench and the prod attached with a screw to the front of the stock.  I jigged everything up for mass production and stained the wood to four different colors for our customers.

After having made literally over a thousand of these bows.. I can safely say NEVER AGAIN!

Wolfgang


--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "leaking pen" <itsatrap@...> wrote:
>
> anyone have plans online anywhere?
>
> --
> That which yields isn't always weak.
>


#9617 From: "Peter Valentine" <wolfgang@...>
Date: Sat Mar 1, 2008 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: A question on lathe tools
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Hmmm... there are opinions than there are turners.. but as its sound like are a beginner... and don't currently plan to make turning the center of your universe like some of us <sheepish grin> Lets go with simple and practical:

1) Forget about making your own tools, it can be done and most serious turners end up making many tools, but you first need to exerience a good tool before you go about making them I think (after all you want to make feast gear and stuff and don't want to spend time making tools)

2) Good tools are worth the money... cheap lightweight tools from companies like Harbor Freight and others may work OK, but I would advise go for quality over quantity. 

3) By Feast Gear I am assuming that you want to make: Plates, Bowls, Goblets, Salt Cellars, Candle Sticks, etc... With this in mind you need to do a combination of faceplate and spindle turning.

4) Do you have a WoodCraft store in your area?  Look them up, its is always better to put your hands on a tool before making a purchasing decision, and they usually have knowledge folks in their stores. (Employees AND customers) 

4) Tools I would suggest to start with:

  • Roughing Gouge: This is the tool that roughs stock down to size... the bigger the better... for your bowls you will be working with rather large stock and its the mass of your roughing gouge that makes all the difference, the heavier the gouge the easier it will be to rough down stock, the tiny gouges the all in one "turning toolkits" give you are a waste of time.
  • Spindle Gouge: Fingernail profile gouges are nice in reducing catches.  Use this for detailed spindle work. Alternately you can use a "Skewchigouge" which is a cross between a skew and a gouge (sometimes called a tripoint tool).  This is a great all purpose tool.
  • Bowl Gouge: This tool is designed to reach in a remove alot of material  fast from the inside of your bowl... it is important to make this tool as massive as you can afford as well as mass again helps keep you from "catches". 
  • End Grain hollowing tool:  These can take many forms, I myself use a Sorby Multi-tip scraper most of the time to hollow with the carbide tip and then shear scrape to a final surface. 

And from a minimalist perspective I would stop right there.  Purists will say you need to use skew, and that everything can be done using a skew (they are right to a degree) but skews require a much higher degree of skill to use correctly and are very unforgiving... I know several people who tried staring with skews and after several terrible catches they were frightened away from turning.

There are some other "tools" which are equally important which are not gouges:

  • Sharpening:  I would advise a slow speed grinder with a coarse and fine stone and a "Wolverine Jig", there are many other ways to sharpen your tools, but this approach is fast and relatively foolproof, and without sharp tools, your turning experience will be a torturous one!  How often your will sharpen depends upon alot of factors, but I find that I am sharpening between each piece, and for some woods several times for a single piece.  Having this rig on hand means that sharpening your tools is only a matter of seconds and then you are back to turning.
  • Chuck:  Using a good chuck like a "Nova Chuck" or one from "Talon" is ciritical to bowl and end-work like goblets.  You need to be able to remove the tailstock and work into the end-grain for bowls and goblets and plates... and a good chuck cannot be replaced.  I use the Nova Chuck myself and am quite happy with it.  You can get attachments for screw chucking and different sized jaws for this chuck as well.. .so you can upgrade as you learn.

Hope it helps,

Wolfgang
--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Brown" <stickbow@...> wrote:
>
> Simple question, what about lathe tools. Is quality of the tool the utmost
> important or is technique? Also, what about making my own tools, is it like
> a blacksmith in that you just make what works at the time or is there some
> gotta have tools. I am looking at making mostly feast gear type stuff for
> family and friend.
>
>
>
> Domingos
>


#9618 From: "leaking pen" <itsatrap@...>
Date: Sat Mar 1, 2008 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: peanut crossbow
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well, i was looking for making a chrisptmas present, heh.  but thanks,
ill keep that in mind.

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Peter Valentine
<wolfgang@...> wrote:
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>
>
>
>
> In order to afford our SCA hobby we turned our crafting skills to making our
> hobby pay for itself and selling 1/3rd scale mini marshmallow crossbows
> earned enough money to buy several large period tents!
> http://www.roguehaven.org/Merchanting/XBows/Crossbows.htm does not give you
> a design, but from the picture its easy enough to work out..
>
> The key was the prods... finding a material that could act like crossbow
> prod that would work reliably without breaking and was quick and easy to
> manufacture... I was hunting for materials one day in my ladies sewing room
> when I knocked over a jar of ladies corset stays... and voila!
>
> You can make a jig to bend an 8" corset stay into a prod shape and use a
> ground off 10 penney  nail and a strip of brass as a push pin and trigger. I
> also put a brass spring clip on top to securely hold the ammo..  I used
> hardwood (poplar) 1 by 2 as the lumber and cut it to shape.. drilled the
> hole for the pushpin aligned with the notch for the string (See the PDF
> instructions on that page) The groove for the ammo is routed on a router
> bench and the prod attached with a screw to the front of the stock.  I
> jigged everything up for mass production and stained the wood to four
> different colors for our customers.
>
> After having made literally over a thousand of these bows.. I can safely say
> NEVER AGAIN!
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
>
> --- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "leaking pen" <itsatrap@...> wrote:
> >
> > anyone have plans online anywhere?
> >
> > --
> > That which yields isn't always weak.
> >
>



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#9619 From: Conal O'hAirt Jim Hart <baronconal@...>
Date: Sun Mar 2, 2008 2:29 am
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: New Web Site for Chas. Oakley
baronconal
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my wife banged her knees one too many times and I
was instructed to find another way..

So I use these.....

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=10&filter=bed%20rail&cookietest=1

You can't see em once the bed is together, work great, not effected at all by humidity
no pegs to fall out or lose . ( my nod to the Creative part of our name.... )

And with a bed wrench, I'd go with a rope bed instead of slats anyway.....
The bed wrench works great and I've had no problem with sagging ropes.
The center support probably helps, but the ropes have never sagged enough
for me to be sure.

after trying both I will never go back to slats..... ever.

In fact since we are waiting for the Ikea to open near Cincinnati and the box
springs would not fit up the stairs in our new house, we are sleeping on the rope
bed right now.... If we do not find something we like at Ikea I'll just build a
rope bed for home use also....
 
Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart

Aude Aliquid Dignum
' Dare Something Worthy '






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#9620 From: "gameresearch" <myspace@...>
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:32 pm
Subject: Bow lathe video rough draft
gameresearch
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There's no narration yet, but I've been experimenting with making a
little video of myself using my hand-powered bow lathe.
http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/Groomporter/video%20experiment/?action=vi\
ew¤t=BowLathe.flv
--
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http://historicgames.com

#9621 From: "James Winkler" <jrwinkler@...>
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:39 pm
Subject: RE: [MedievalSawdust] Bow lathe video rough draft
rivendalehall
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Nice work!!!   I really love the set up pics in front that give a context to the your lathe.   Nice camera work too…  neat way to present the content.  Bravo!

 

Chas.

 

=============================

There's no narration yet, but I've been experimenting with making a
little video of myself using my hand-powered bow lathe.
http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/Groomporter/video%20experiment/?action=view&current=BowLathe.flv
--
MacGregor Historic Games


#9622 From: "gameresearch" <myspace@...>
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: Bow lathe video rough draft
gameresearch
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Thanks!
The other Chas ;-)

Chas
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http://historicgames.com


--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "James Winkler"
<jrwinkler@...> wrote:
>
> Nice work!!!   I really love the set up pics in front that give a
context to
> the your lathe.   Nice camera work too.  neat way to present the
content.
> Bravo!
>
>
>
> Chas.
>
>
>
> =============================
>
> There's no narration yet, but I've been experimenting with making a
> little video of myself using my hand-powered bow lathe.
>
http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/Groomporter/video%20experiment/?actio
> n=view
>
<http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/Groomporter/video%20experiment/?acti
> on=view¤t=BowLathe.flv> ¤t=BowLathe.flv
> --
> MacGregor Historic Games
>

#9623 From: Rebekah d'Avignon <rebekahdavignon@...>
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: Bow lathe video rough draft
rebekahdavignon
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I clicked on the link....things flash, but no pictures. What's up?

gameresearch <myspace@...> wrote:

>
> There's no narration yet, but I've been experimenting with making a
> little video of myself using my hand-powered bow lathe.
>
http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/Groomporter/video%20experiment/?actio
> n=view
>
<http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/Groomporter/video%20experiment/?acti
> on=view&current=BowLathe.flv> &current=BowLathe.flv
> --
> MacGregor Historic Games
>




RdA
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#9624 From: "Jason Lewis" <jason.lewis@...>
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: Bow lathe video rough draft
gwalchmai_sa...
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Very cool video, I am currently working on a bow lathe myself so this
is actually very helpful for me, thank you kindly.

Ademar de Chartres (tentative name ;) changing personas)

#9625 From: "gameresearch" <myspace@...>
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: Bow lathe video rough draft
gameresearch
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Try this link The way yahoo wraps around lonf URLs sometimes breaks
the link, (or you may need update a plug-in on your browser)

http://tinyurl.com/28vr8b

Chas
--
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http://historicgames.com

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, Rebekah d'Avignon
<rebekahdavignon@...> wrote:
>
> I clicked on the link....things flash, but no pictures. What's up?
>
> gameresearch <myspace@...> wrote:
> >
> > There's no narration yet, but I've been experimenting with making a
> > little video of myself using my hand-powered bow lathe.
> >
>
http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/Groomporter/video%20experiment/?actio
> > n=view
> >
>
<http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/Groomporter/video%20experiment/?acti
> > on=view¤t=BowLathe.flv> ¤t=BowLathe.flv
> > --
> > MacGregor Historic Games
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   RdA
>   A waist is a terrible thing to mind.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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#9626 From: "Eric" <ewdysar@...>
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:00 pm
Subject: Re: Bow lathe video rough draft
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I agree, very well done.  I've wanted to make a lathe to take to
events but I always get caught up in thinking to big and
complicated.  This seems much better, and there's always little
things that could be turned as needed.  You've been a huge
inspiration.

Thank you!

In Service to the Dream,
Eirikr Mjoksiglandi
Ashgrove, barony of Angels, Caid

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "James Winkler"
<jrwinkler@...> wrote:
>
> Nice work!!!   I really love the set up pics in front that give a
context to
> the your lathe.   Nice camera work too.  neat way to present the
content.
> Bravo!
>
>
>
> Chas.
>
>
>
> =============================
>
> There's no narration yet, but I've been experimenting with making a
> little video of myself using my hand-powered bow lathe.
> http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/Groomporter/video%
20experiment/?actio
> n=view
> <http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/Groomporter/video%
20experiment/?acti
> on=view¤t=BowLathe.flv> ¤t=BowLathe.flv
> --
> MacGregor Historic Games
>

#9627 From: Michael T Combs <stmike7@...>
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: Bow lathe video rough draft
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I have considered making a flywheel lathe for demos and recruit viewers to power the flywheel.  DaVinci had a great design!
Michaeus

Eric <ewdysar@...> wrote:
I agree, very well done. I've wanted to make a lathe to take to
events but I always get caught up in thinking to big and
complicated. This seems much better, and there's always little
things that could be turned as needed. You've been a huge
inspiration.

Thank you!

In Service to the Dream,
Eirikr Mjoksiglandi
Ashgrove, barony of Angels, Caid

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "James Winkler"
wrote:
>
> Nice work!!! I really love the set up pics in front that give a
context to
> the your lathe. Nice camera work too. neat way to present the
content.
> Bravo!
>
>
>
> Chas.
>
>
>
> =============================
>
> There's no narration yet, but I've been experimenting with making a
> little video of myself using my hand-powered bow lathe.
> http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/Groomporter/video%
20experiment/?actio
> n=view
> 20experiment/?acti
> on=view¤t=BowLathe.flv> ¤t=BowLathe.flv
> --
> MacGregor Historic Games
>




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#9628 From: "gameresearch" <myspace@...>
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:14 pm
Subject: Re: Bow lathe video rough draft
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--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, Michael T Combs <stmike7@...>
wrote:
>
> I have considered making a flywheel lathe for demos and recruit
viewers to power the flywheel.  DaVinci had a great design!
>   Michaeus
>

Check out this video of a British turner using a lathe based on Da Vinci's
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zQ3IiQyyb7Y

I've been planning on making a smaller version using an old grinding
stone we salvaged from a family farm as the flywheel.

Chas
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http://historicgames.com

#9629 From: "Eric" <ewdysar@...>
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:14 pm
Subject: Re: Period lathe types
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That's the direction that I had always been headed before, but the
great wheel lathes are inherently less portable.  First there's the
size and weight of the flywheel in transit.  And then the lathe frame
has to be that much more solid/substantial to deal with the mass.
Period bearings and shafts must be scaled up from what we see in
modern lathes and the general machine wear and maintenance goes up
with the overall loads.

These reasons and general procrastination are probably why the only
lathe I own today was made by Jet.  Perhaps the Bow lathe design can
provide the practical aspects that have been getting in my way.

Eirikr

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "gameresearch" <myspace@...>
wrote:
>
> I've been planning on making a smaller version using an old grinding
> stone we salvaged from a family farm as the flywheel.
>
> Chas
> --
> MacGregor Games
> http://historicgames.com
>

#9630 From: "Su Ralston" <suralston@...>
Date: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:21 pm
Subject: Bowl turning competition video
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With all the talk about bow lathes and turning, and the video on YouTube, I
did a bit more snooping...

This video is just terrific... make sure you wait until the very end and
check out the difference in profile on the finished bowls!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDgIGzw4VtA&NR=1

Su of the Silver Horn
(Hi Eirikr!)

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