Yes. I have a copy. Buy it.

Beth

At 07:42 PM 12/5/2007, you wrote:

>
>Anyone know anything about this book?
>
>
>
>Domestic Wooden Artifacts
>
>
>by Caroline Earwood
>
>
>
>Radiocarbon dating has made possible a chronology for the hundreds
>of previously undated wooden artefacts found during the drainage
>works and peat diggings in 19th and 20th century Ireland and
>Scotland. Using these results this book is able to analyse the
>developments in manufacturing methods of domestic wooden artefacts
>in Britain and Ireland from the Neolithic to the end of the first
>millennium AD. The distribution of artefacts - chronologically and
>geographically - and the organisation of manufacture and the
>cultural context are analysed and discussed, and comparison with
>European types made. The relationships between function, style and
>value of wooden artefacts and those made of metal, pottery and stone
>are also examined. `One of the most refreshing and stimulating
>recent books on British archaeology' - Current Archaeolgy. 300p with
>136 figs & illus. (Exeter UP 1993)
>
>Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart
>
>Aude Aliquid Dignum
>'Dare Something Worthy'

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "Tracy Swanson"
<tstar2000@...> wrote:
>
> Speaking of dating wooden artifacts, has anyone else heard of the annual
> tree ring record method of dating? It is supposed to rely upon the
annual
> tree ring growth record. It seems that all trees, regardless of
where they
> grow, have a relative annual growth ring thickness record that has been
> traced, from what I've heard, at least as far back as the early
Middle Ages.
>
Actually yes, and it doesn't work like you describe.

It's called Dendrochronology, while it can be accurate, it requires
correlation to the growing area and maybe even the specie for accuracy.

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrochronology
http://www.sonic.net/bristlecone/dendro.html

TTFN
Ralg
AnTir

Domingos

You've had some good advice, so far, so now for some that might not be
as good...

Avoid the Harbor Freight tools, that have the tan/white handles (these
are sold both at the stores and via mail-order). If you buy HF tools
get the RED handled ones. These are only available via the stores. The
steel in these is much better, but still cheap ($40 for the set as I
recall)

Another good option, in the "cheap" tools is Benjamin's Best, imported
by PennState, but sold by a number of firms. Of similar quality is
Bodger, imported by Highland Hardware.

The advise you got to buy quality tools can also be good, -if- you
already know how to sharpen lathe tools (especially bowl and detail
gouges). If you don't, stay with cheap tools at first. Better to grind
away cheap steel, then expensive steel.

If you really want to be serious about learning to turn, look into
joining your local chapter of the AAW (assuming you live in North
America). http://www.woodturner.org/

One last point... in period they used an entire different type of
chisels then we do today.

TTFN
Ralg
AnTir

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph Lindberg" <n7bsn@...>
wrote:

> One last point... in period they used an entire different type of
> chisels then we do today.
>


Okay, I'll bite, so, what were the chisels like in period?


Aleyn
Cragmere
AnTir

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To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
From: stickbow@...
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:16:39 -0600
Subject: RE: [MedievalSawdust] FW: [TY] Canopy camping bed, visually period

Master Geoffry (spelling may be off ) from Meridies has a period looking canopy bed that looks great and is very portable. Hope this helps.

 

Domingos

 

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From: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com [mailto:medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill McNutt
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:56 AM
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MedievalSawdust] FW: [TY] Canopy camping bed, visually period

 

Does anyone know where I might point this nice lady? Doctoraicha –at- yahoo.com

 

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From: meridian-ty@yahoogroups.com [mailto:meridian-ty@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of doctoraicha
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:52 PM
To: meridian-ty@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TY] Canopy camping bed, visually period

 

I need some assistance locating either plans for a portable full sized
canopy bed, or links to some reputable SCA artisans who can make me
one. I know several of you out there have them.

YIS,
Sibella

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Tingle" <stu.shan@...>
wrote:

>
> Okay, I'll bite, so, what were the chisels like in period?
>

   Hook chisels mostly
   For reference see Robin Wood's book "The Wooden Bowl", or see his
web-site at http://www.robin-wood.co.uk/turnframe.htm

   Actually, if you wanted to use a hook chisel yourself, there is a
source really close. Just drive up to Comox to Island Wood Craft
(http://www.islandwoodcraft.ca/) and enjoy.
   I should note that the hook chisel they sell is designed for turning
the inside of small boxes
   I should also warn you that it can be a very expensive place to
visit (yup, I've been there).

   I come up to the Parksville area fairly often, I've made a few
practices and even one event! (unusual, since my schedule almost never
matches what is going on up there)

TTFN
Ralg
Dragons Laire
AnTir

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph Lindberg" <n7bsn@...>
wrote:
>
>
>   Hook chisels mostly
>   For reference see Robin Wood's book "The Wooden Bowl", or see his
> web-site at http://www.robin-wood.co.uk/turnframe.htm
>

Thanks, I have a better idea now.

>   Actually, if you wanted to use a hook chisel yourself, there is a
> source really close. Just drive up to Comox to Island Wood Craft
> (http://www.islandwoodcraft.ca/) and enjoy.
>   I should note that the hook chisel they sell is designed for turning

Yeah, they are two blocks down the street from my home. I wish I could
afford their wonderful toys, but no. also, I mostly do reeded
woodwinds and they are always confused and bemused when I go looking
for tools. (try asking them about d-bit drills some time when you want
to yank a chain) Then when they are finished looking lost I just go
home and make what I need instead. Ask them about bowl or goblet
turning and tools however and they are awesome, but deviate sideways a
bit....


>   I come up to the Parksville area fairly often, I've made a few
> practices and even one event! (unusual, since my schedule almost
>never matches what is going on up there)

Myself I rarely get to just drop down to Hartwood anymore, used to go
to every event I could down there, due to gas prices, and mostly play
here in Cragmere except for the odd event of course. Might run into
there one day or perhaps Seagirt. I'm the fellow usually flogging his
bagpipes, cornemuses, harps, lyres and their ilk. (next sales table,
kingdom 12th night, crass plug)

In Service

Aleyn
Shire of Cragmere
AnTir

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "leaking pen" <itsatrap@...>
wrote:
>
> ohh, wow.  those look like potters tools ive used.  i actually
wondered when
> i was first introduced to lathes, if tools like that would work.  im
glad to
> see they do.
>

Be great for bowl turning, but I cant see how they could be used in
the spindle turning I use for making instruments however. If so, how?
If not, what did they use?

Aleyn
shire of cragemere
AnTir

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Tingle" <stu.shan@...>
wrote:

>
> Be great for bowl turning, but I cant see how they could be used in
> the spindle turning I use for making instruments however. If so, how?
> If not, what did they use?
>
Depends.. I've seen some photo's of Roman era chisels that look very
modern, more like gouges and bedans.

Also, you need to recall that when you are face turning, the grain
varies from end-on to side-on, and that spindle turning is primarily
side-on. The cuts are very similar, which is why spindle gouges are
similar to bowl gouges.

From what I have been able to learn (and I am certainly no expert on
period turning) there was spindle turning with hook chisels, designed
for that purpose.

TTFN
Ralg
An Tir

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Tingle" <stu.shan@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, they are two blocks down the street from my home. I wish I could
> afford their wonderful toys, but no.

I don't know my wallet could afford living two blocks from what I
think of as the primer wood turning shop in Canada!

>
> Myself I rarely get to just drop down to Hartwood anymore, used to go
> to every event I could down there, due to gas prices..

It would be a long drive for a "just the evening". The only reason I
could go up was I had the afternoon off.

>Might run into
> there one day or perhaps Seagirt. I'm the fellow usually flogging his
> bagpipes, cornemuses, harps, lyres and their ilk. (next sales table,
> kingdom 12th night, crass plug)
>
I will look for you there.

TTFN
Ralg
AnTir

While there is the limitation that (at best) you can only date a
section of wood to the date when it was cut down, it's not true that
it's not applicable to furniture. You can overlap know section
profiles with your sample and get a pattern match with just sections.

There's a very good description of the technique in "Die gotishen Truhen".

I was reading the dendrochronological report for an item at the Cluny
in Paris last week (brag). They were able to stack the individual
pieces in such a way that they could reconstruct the section of log
the pieces came from, giving a very complete cross section on which
they could base their analysis.

Jeff J /Geoff Bourette

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "Bill McNutt" <mcnutt@...> wrote:
>
> One of my colleagues here at the University of Tennessee was
instrumental in
> developing the technique.  Alas, it is not useable for furniture
because you
> have to get a core of so much of the original tree to get meaningful
data.
> They did use it on the Mary Rose timbers, though, to tell when the trees
> were felled to build her.  It helped nail down her construction
dates.  The
> technique is called "dendrochronology."
>
>
>
> Will
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tracy Swanson
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:31 PM
> To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [MedievalSawdust] Looking for a book review
>
>
>
> Speaking of dating wooden artifacts, has anyone else heard of the annual
> tree ring record method of dating? It is supposed to rely upon the
annual
> tree ring growth record. It seems that all trees, regardless of
where they
> grow, have a relative annual growth ring thickness record that has been
> traced, from what I've heard, at least as far back as the early
Middle Ages.
>
>
>
> Just thought this might be of interest...
>
> In Magical Service,
>
> Malaki
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> =9434/stime=1196905331/nc1=5008815/nc2=3848614/nc3=4840951>
>

Greetings Mesire Matthew,

Attending KWHS is my goal, I didn't realise Raglan Fair was a SCAdian event... but of course if I DO save enough bikkies to come over to ID I'd be mad not to stay for the fair.

I have been to the Weald and Downland Museum -- it was amazing.  I was lucky enough to be the only person there for the Gridshell Tour, so got to ask questions about the tools, house bits etc stored there - a (literally) hands-on tour, as I was allowed to pick up and examine the artifacts etc.  which is not normally allowed when there are heaps of people on the tour.

I could have spent several days there instead of the 1 that I had available.

Lowry

medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com wrote:

SCA and Medieval Woodworking

3a.

Re: St Cross

Posted by: "julian wilson" smnco37@...   smnco37

Thu Dec 6, 2007 9:42 am (PST)

REPLY
Chris, Lowry,
for future reference then, - so far as I know, Insulę Draconis has recently mounted events at the following Period Locations - Raglan Castle; - St. Cross; - Tretower Court & Castle;
and Barley Hall, York. - all of which have well-illustrated websites.
Of these, "Raglan Fair" 2008 will run from September 11th to 15th and looks as though it will be the longest period-location SCA event in ID next year.
A chance to camp medievally in a "slighted" castle, and test your medieval combat skills against other SCAdians, anywhere within the walls; and to attend a torchlit Ball in the Fountain Court on the Saturday evening!
My Lady and I missed Raglan 1, attended Raglan 2 and 3 where we had a wonderful weekend each time; and have already booked leave from our mundane world for Raglan 4 - which this year will be longer than ever before.
If one was thinking about travelling to the UK for one of those events, I'd say Raglan 4 would be the one to choose, - 'cos you'd get longer onsite in a period location. As an added incentive to visit the UK for SCAdians, KWHS 2008 is being held in London that September, also.
If we of ID are privileged to have another "Winchester Pilgrimage" in 2008, then St. Cross would be my second choice - especially for anyone on this medieval Sawdust List.. You've seen the pictures of St Cross, plus there is the ancient City of Winchester within walking distance, - and within an hour's drive there is the outstanding "Weald & Downland Museum" - a collection of [mostly-timber-framed] medieval buildings salvaged from their original locations, and carefully re-erected [shorn of their later modifications] on a huge 45-acre "greenfield" site just to the north of the village of Singleton, West Sussex, 4 miles north of the ancient City of Chichester, - which of course has the wonderful "Roman Palace" nearby in the village of Fishbourne.
Amongst it's many attactions, the Weald & Downland Museum's "collection" includes a fully-furnished medieval manor house, and a separate Tudor Kitchen [working and staffed by re-enactor volunteers]; a working watermill which "mills" on an almost daily basis, a working Smithy, and a working [heavy] woodworking area in the woods at the back of the Museum Site. The gardens of the various houses are planted with period plants [ appropriate to the date of each building]. And there are stables for the Museums working draught horses, too.
The heavy woodworking "shop" in the Museum's woods has a working sawpit, a restored Victorian woodyard crane, a mobile and possibly Victorian sawmill for turning logs into planks, and the people who run this "woodyard" know how to do things in a historic manner with maximum hand-tooling and minimum powered-tool assitance.

yours in humble service,
Matthew Baker

mka: Tracey Sawyer
 
  ska:  THL Lowry ferch Gwynwynwyn ap Llewelyn, OGT
  (pronounced: Lo-oo-ra v-air-k When-when-when up hhhL-yew-elen)
 
  aka:  Badra


I'm NOT middle-aged ... I'm medieval!
 

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