I don't recognize the extension (not well enough informed, I guess) so I don't know how to open it.  I can open Word Perfect, MS Word, MS Excel, and RTF, but am totally unfamiliar with ODT. 

 

~~ Katarina Helene

 

I use open office.  Here is my treatise on medieval glue as a PDF.  For
those of you who have been interested I would like some feedback.  I
tired to make sure that everything is clearly documented as well as
completely presented.  For what we do, it is important that the original
basis-that is the translations of the original material, go along with
and be readily available and compared to the current new and original
research.  Although I have completely documented the work that is from
others,  I think I run a fine line on copyright issues, mostly because
there is so much of it.  The medieval originals would be OK but not
understandable to us only English speakers.  The translations which are
technically the same "thoughts" but in the English words which is what
we are after for our educational purposes, are what fall under
copyright.  And doing my own translation of the same original- wouldn't
that say the same thing or be a lessor more amateur version of what a
professional has already done?  I have is a writing style here that puts
the necessary information directly in front of the reader and it is my
feeling that any less and the writing falls way short short of the
intended purpose.  Copyright concerns are why I don't do more writing.
Why write if I can't convey what I want to say and then put it in some
sort of publishable format.  I am open to any help YOU the interested
readers might be able to give me.

Greetings, all.

I've been using fish glue on the most recent musical instrument I'm
building. It dries very clear and hard, much like hide glue except that
the open time allows for a more leisurely construction. If anybody's
interested, I'll be glad to bring some to Estrella War for you to play with.

Which reminds me: This is to let you all know that my workshop (bench,
tools, and space) will be returning to Estrella War after a two-year
hiatus. I'll be doing "demos" on Wednesday afternoon and Thursday
morning. They're "demos" in the sense that I'll be there working on
stuff. Feel free to bring your own projects, use my tools, and keep me
company. The wood shop will be there throughout the war, but you can
actually count on me being there at the abovementioned times. Come help
me make sawdust and wood chips!

Johann von Drachenfels
West Kingdom

As with any glue it is important to to have good mechanical joints.  I
have used cheese lime glue on all glued parts of The great machine which
has been set up and taken down at Lilies war for about 5 years now.  I
am fond of it because of its weather resistance and it has worked well.
All the glue joints have held well.  The Great machine is a period power
tool- a 8 foot diameter dog powered tread-wheel which can run things
like a grinding wheel or barrel tumbler.  In the future, bellows,
power-hammer, and saw.  I will see if I can send some attached a video
or some photos in the near future as my next internet-fu experiment.

Here are a couple of photos of TGM

I tried several times to send a video as an attachment the same way I
sent the photos.  The photos showed up correctly.  The video showed up
in my sent folder but not on the list. Anyone know why? Oddly when I
click on the video attachment in my sent folder thunderbird asks what to
do with it suggesting the desk top.  When I say ok it stores the video
on the desktop as one would expect.  Then I can click it and watch it.
But most importantly the message doesn't show up in the medievalsawdust
list postings at all.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jerry Harder

To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:00 AM

Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Photos of The Great Machine [5 Attachments]

 

Here are a couple of photos of TGM

----- Original Message -----

From: Jerry Harder

To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:39 AM

Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Video of the Great Machine

 

I tried several times to send a video as an attachment the same way I
sent the photos. The photos showed up correctly. The video showed up
in my sent folder but not on the list. Anyone know why? Oddly when I
click on the video attachment in my sent folder thunderbird asks what to
do with it suggesting the desk top. When I say ok it stores the video
on the desktop as one would expect. Then I can click it and watch it.
But most importantly the message doesn't show up in the medievalsawdust
list postings at all.

Yahoo groups software will scrub off any attachments you send in an email to the
group. Instead you include in your message a link to the website the video is
stored on.

Karin C

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Harder <geraldgoodwine@...> wrote:
>
> I tried several times to send a video as an attachment the same way I
> sent the photos.  The photos showed up correctly.  The video showed up
> in my sent folder but not on the list. Anyone know why? Oddly when I
> click on the video attachment in my sent folder thunderbird asks what to
> do with it suggesting the desk top.  When I say ok it stores the video
> on the desktop as one would expect.  Then I can click it and watch it.
> But most importantly the message doesn't show up in the medievalsawdust
> list postings at all.
>

 

Wow!!  What an awesome set-up.  How do you keep the dog moving?  How long can you expect to keep him/her doing it?  Just curious.

 

~~ Katarina Helene

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jerry Harder

To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:00 AM

Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Photos of The Great Machine [5 Attachments]

 

Here are a couple of photos of TGM

 

your attachment may be too large. Yahoo strips messages that have over sized attachments. How big of a file was it?

 

From: Jerry Harder

Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:39 AM

To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Video of the Great Machine

 

 

I tried several times to send a video as an attachment the same way I
sent the photos. The photos showed up correctly. The video showed up
in my sent folder but not on the list. Anyone know why? Oddly when I
click on the video attachment in my sent folder thunderbird asks what to
do with it suggesting the desk top. When I say ok it stores the video
on the desktop as one would expect. Then I can click it and watch it.
But most importantly the message doesn't show up in the medievalsawdust
list postings at all.

The best way to deal with things like videos & documents etc. is to go
straight into Yahoo groups & upload it directly to the 'files' section.
You probably already have an account with Yahoo groups in order to be on
this list (it is possible to avoid this, but it is more complicated).

1. Using your browser, go to Yahoo Groups, log in then go to the
Medieval Sawdust group. Click on it to open the home page.
The direct link is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/medievalsawdust/
Click on 'Files' in the left hand column. When that opens, click on 'Add
a file' in the right hand column. (Want to make it hard, don't they,
couldn't be consistant)

2. This should bring up a window with a box to browse to the file you
want to upload on your computer (hint: make a copy of the file & put it
somewhere easy to find, like 'Desktop' or 'C:/uploads' before you
start.) - now browse your computer to the file, click on it which should
make the name of the file appear in the file box under the browsing
window, then click 'open'. This will take you back to the 'Add File' window.

3. Put a description in the box underneath the file name ( 'Great
Machine Video' for instance), then click the highlighted box 'upload
file' at the bottom right. Go and get a snack while the file uploads as
it will take a while. When the file seems to have uploaded, check that
it works OK (sometimes things get corrupted or truncated when uploading)
then relax & wait for the reactions.

If you are going to upload a bunch of videos and/or documents, it would
be a good idea to create a personal folder in the files section - the
procedure is much the same.
If you have a lot of photos to upload, follow the above instructions but
substitute 'Photos' for 'Files'.

regards
Brusi of Orkney
Rowany/Lochac.

I put an attachment in a direct email to Helen and found out that yahoo
only allows 41,697,280 bites.  The email worked so I am going to try
doing one other one that is less than that for the list.   bsrlee gave
me a long set of instructions I will have to beat my way through and
figure out.  In the mean time, Is attaching videos considered a bad
thing-just in case it works?

The easy way would be to upload it to youtube and then put a link to it in email
and in the links file.

Karin

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Harder <geraldgoodwine@...> wrote:
>
> It was 16.2MB.  Karin said,"Yahoo groups software will scrub off any
> attachments you send in an email to the group. Instead you include in
> your message a link to the website the video is stored on."  My pictures
> went through so its not "any attachments".  It must be too big like you
> say or related to the fact that it is a video.  Do you happen to know
> which? I don't have a website and its a video I took with my own
> camera.  I have seen where others have referred to pictures but had no
> way to figure how to get to them.  I'm not very good with with the web
> and computers and may need some walking through.  In the mean time, I am
> attempting to send some attached videos direct to someone that has
> requested it direct.
>
> On 2/19/2013 8:39 AM, maf@... wrote:
> >
> > your attachment may be too large. Yahoo strips messages that have over
> > sized attachments. How big of a file was it?
> > *From:* Jerry Harder <mailto:geraldgoodwine@...>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:39 AM
> > *To:* medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com>
> > *Subject:* [MedievalSawdust] Video of the Great Machine
> >
> > I tried several times to send a video as an attachment the same way I
> > sent the photos. The photos showed up correctly. The video showed up
> > in my sent folder but not on the list. Anyone know why? Oddly when I
> > click on the video attachment in my sent folder thunderbird asks what to
> > do with it suggesting the desk top. When I say ok it stores the video
> > on the desktop as one would expect. Then I can click it and watch it.
> > But most importantly the message doesn't show up in the medievalsawdust
> > list postings at all.
> >
> >
>

 

The easy way would be to upload it to youtube and then put a link to it in email and in the links file.

Karin

 

The easy way would be to upload it to youtube and then put a link to it in email and in the links file.

Karin

From Brusi of Orkney's help I was able to post some photos of the
barrel-tumbler the tread-wheel ran last summer.  When I push the add now
button it appears to do nothing but eventually tells me yahoo timed
out.  When I go there the photos are there, but am I doing something wrong?

If the photos are getting there then you are NOT doing anything wrong.

For those of us like me, with Ante Diluvian connection speeds, we get a
progress bar come up - or at least we used to, I haven't posted anything
to Yahoo groups for a while. If your connection is fast enough or the
file is small enough, you probably don't get the progress bar and
eventually Yahoo's site software thinks you have fallen asleep waiting
for it, gets bored & goes off to play solitare. If there is a progress
bar or some other indication of success it may be coming up in a
backgroup window that goes away after a few seconds (another pet hate of
mine) before you get a change to notice it.

A simple check on this is to open a second browser window while you have
the upload window open, and have a look at the group's home page - it
will have a bar that says 'Z new posts - X new files - Y new photos' at
the top centre near the word home. You can just go straight to the new
photos by clicking on the 'new photos' text, which is also a button -
unfortunately that does not work the same for 'files', it just takes you
to ALL the files, not just the new ones.

You may also have noticed that Yahoo's site software also automatically
reduces the size of all photos that you post, regardless of how small
the photo was to start with, another pita 'feature' that we have come to
live with. At least you are not posting everything to a site that
requires you to create an 'account' with all your personal details (and
a pint of blood).

regards
Brusi of Orkney

On 21-Feb-13 9:05 PM, Jerry Harder wrote:
>   From Brusi of Orkney's help I was able to post some photos of the
> barrel-tumbler the tread-wheel ran last summer.  When I push the add now
> button it appears to do nothing but eventually tells me yahoo timed
> out.  When I go there the photos are there, but am I doing something wrong?
>

Last year a work friends neighbor was going to kill a patch of cane he
had growing on his property.  Knowing that I might be interested, he ask
if i wanted it.  Now I have a 5ft by 35 foot bed of it.
it looked like tall corn when I got it very late in the spring and grew
that tall again on my property the same year.  It originally came from
California but I don't know where it's really native too.  I thing it
may get as much as 15 ft tall this year, and I did cut and save last
years canes.  Can anyone document any medieval uses?  Even better 16th C
German?  Anyone want to play with some?

Have you any idea what kind of cane it is? Speaking as an instrument
maker, some kinds are wonderful for reeds.
Perhaps send an image to the list, I might be able to identify it. If it
is a type I can use, I would be quite interested in some.
--
Aleyn Wykington O.L.
Shire of Hartwood
Tir Righ
AnTir

On 2/24/2013 12:36 AM, Jerry Harder wrote:
> Last year a work friends neighbor was going to kill a patch of cane he
> had growing on his property.  Knowing that I might be interested, he ask
> if i wanted it.  Now I have a 5ft by 35 foot bed of it.
> it looked like tall corn when I got it very late in the spring and grew
> that tall again on my property the same year.  It originally came from
> California but I don't know where it's really native too.  I thing it
> may get as much as 15 ft tall this year, and I did cut and save last
> years canes.  Can anyone document any medieval uses?  Even better 16th C
> German?  Anyone want to play with some?
>
>

 

Have you any idea what kind of cane it is? Speaking as an instrument
maker, some kinds are wonderful for reeds.
Perhaps send an image to the list, I might be able to identify it. If it
is a type I can use, I would be quite interested in some.
--
Aleyn Wykington O.L.
Shire of Hartwood
Tir Righ
AnTir

On 2/24/2013 12:36 AM, Jerry Harder wrote:
> Last year a work friends neighbor was going to kill a patch of cane he
> had growing on his property. Knowing that I might be interested, he ask
> if i wanted it. Now I have a 5ft by 35 foot bed of it.
> it looked like tall corn when I got it very late in the spring and grew
> that tall again on my property the same year. It originally came from
> California but I don't know where it's really native too. I thing it
> may get as much as 15 ft tall this year, and I did cut and save last
> years canes. Can anyone document any medieval uses? Even better 16th C
> German? Anyone want to play with some?
>
>

By the way the DSCoo958 pic was of the haystack method of charcoal
making project I did this summer.  That's still working with wood, right?
Its documented in Pyrotechnica Byrringuccio (1533-44)  I think the 33
date is when they think it was written and 44 when published.  my
spelling and the 2 dates may be off a "smige" but less than a decade.
Left the source at home.

Hi, given the cane came from California and what it looks like, I'd say it was
Arundo donax. You can wiki its characteristics, the height depends on the soil
it is in though. The stuff is originally Mediterranean, but was dragged all over
the world as it is so incredibly useful. To me, that is the ideal type of cane
for wood wind instruments from early clarinets to bagpipes. I'd love to try
playing with some of it. Mind if I contact you off list about this?

Aleyn Wykington O.L.