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#11733 From: "Barbara Dodge" <awench1@...>
Date: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: Powermatic Lathe
awench2000
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Ooooooooo, this solves the problem of where to put the doggone tailstock when you take it off the machine! 
B~
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:21 PM
Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Re: Powermatic Lathe

Your birthday is just past, but you'll need some fun accessories for your Christmas list. Here's one: a tilt-away extension to let you move that massive tailstock out of the way for hollowing.

http://www.turnrobust.com/Tilt-A-Matic_by_Robust.html

I'm considering one for mine, because I do make a lot of hollow vessels, but I've also had a lot of requests for 36" work, and the 3520 can only do 35" This adds a couple of inches I can use. Now, if I only knew some creative people who work metal to help me make my own...

Bayard

(No connection to the Robust Lathe company, just jealous envy of their stuff...)

--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "Barbara Dodge" <awench1@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. I'll be picking the guys brains at Woodcraft for "must have" accessories this weekend. Maybe later on I'll look for the "nice to have" accesories. I'll look on line to see what prices I can find. If I have to shop Woodcraft, they're doing a storewide sale 7/24 & 7/25. 10% off power tools and 15% off everything else (some exceptions apply).
>


#11734 From: "bayard_turner" <williams@...>
Date: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:43 am
Subject: Re: Powermatic Lathe
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I came across a site full of tips and ideas for the 3520

      http://mustardmonster.weebly.com/

Enjoy!

Bayard

#11735 From: leaking pen <itsatrap@...>
Date: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:42 pm
Subject: Drawings of various tools through the ages
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#11736 From: "Barbara Dodge" <awench1@...>
Date: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:32 am
Subject: Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel
awench2000
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Anyone on this list ever make one?

Barbara
----- Original Message -----
From: <katrous@...>
To: "Keep" <keep@...>; <atlantia@...>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:31 AM
Subject: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel



Hello! I am interested in commissioning someone to replicate a simple
medieval 'kick' style pottery wheel. There is also a short video on youtube
showing one in use http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6rxr07sqp8 and I have a
few period illustrations I can send people. I wouldn't expect to throw more
than 5 lbs of clay at a time on this (it would primarily be for using at
demos, and making small things at home when I can't get to the studio).


Please contact me off list to discuss. This is something ideally I'd like to
have for next summer's demo season.

Thanks,

Kateryn Rous


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#11737 From: Conal O'hAirt Jim Hart <baronconal@...>
Date: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:41 am
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel
baronconal
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where are you? ( for shipping considerations )

got pictures of something like what you want?

foot powered or...?

have not made one before, sounds like it could be fun though...


 
Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart

Aude Aliquid Dignum
' Dare Something Worthy '



From: Barbara Dodge <awench1@...>
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:32:09 PM
Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

 

Anyone on this list ever make one?

Barbara
----- Original Message -----
From: <katrous@yahoo. com>
To: "Keep" <keep@windmastershil l.org>; <atlantia@atlantia. sca.org>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:31 AM
Subject: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

Hello! I am interested in commissioning someone to replicate a simple
medieval 'kick' style pottery wheel. There is also a short video on youtube
showing one in use http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=W6rxr07sqp8 and I have a
few period illustrations I can send people. I wouldn't expect to throw more
than 5 lbs of clay at a time on this (it would primarily be for using at
demos, and making small things at home when I can't get to the studio).

Please contact me off list to discuss. This is something ideally I'd like to
have for next summer's demo season.

Thanks,

Kateryn Rous

============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======
The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside
List Info: http://merryrose. atlantia. sca.org/
Submissions: Atlantia@seahorse. atlantia. sca.org
Subscriptions:
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#11738 From: Conal O'hAirt Jim Hart <baronconal@...>
Date: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:47 am
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel
baronconal
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Hi!

Where are you? ( for shipping considerations )

Is the style shown in the video what you want?

What is the difference in a kick style?  Got pictures?

I've seen electrically powered wheels ( that the right word? )
with a big heavy flywheel to keep it moving.... I'd
guess that a kick wheel is similar but with out the motor....



 
Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart

Aude Aliquid Dignum
' Dare Something Worthy '



From: Barbara Dodge <awench1@...>
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:32:09 PM
Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

 

Anyone on this list ever make one?

Barbara
----- Original Message -----
From: <katrous@yahoo. com>
To: "Keep" <keep@windmastershil l.org>; <atlantia@atlantia. sca.org>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:31 AM
Subject: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

Hello! I am interested in commissioning someone to replicate a simple
medieval 'kick' style pottery wheel. There is also a short video on youtube
showing one in use http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=W6rxr07sqp8 and I have a
few period illustrations I can send people. I wouldn't expect to throw more
than 5 lbs of clay at a time on this (it would primarily be for using at
demos, and making small things at home when I can't get to the studio).

Please contact me off list to discuss. This is something ideally I'd like to
have for next summer's demo season.

Thanks,

Kateryn Rous

============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======
The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside
List Info: http://merryrose. atlantia. sca.org/
Submissions: Atlantia@seahorse. atlantia. sca.org
Subscriptions:
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#11739 From: Conal O'hAirt Jim Hart <baronconal@...>
Date: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:49 am
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel
baronconal
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feeling dumb....

same mistake twice.....

that was supposed to be a reply to the sender....

( long day )

 
Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart

Aude Aliquid Dignum
' Dare Something Worthy '



From: Conal O'hAirt Jim Hart <baronconal@...>
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:47:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

 

Hi!

Where are you? ( for shipping considerations )

Is the style shown in the video what you want?

What is the difference in a kick style?  Got pictures?

I've seen electrically powered wheels ( that the right word? )
with a big heavy flywheel to keep it moving.... I'd
guess that a kick wheel is similar but with out the motor....



 
Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart

Aude Aliquid Dignum
' Dare Something Worthy '



From: Barbara Dodge <awench1@cox. net>
To: medievalsawdust@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:32:09 PM
Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

 

Anyone on this list ever make one?

Barbara
----- Original Message -----
From: <katrous@yahoo. com>
To: "Keep" <keep@windmastershil l.org>; <atlantia@atlantia. sca.org>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:31 AM
Subject: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

Hello! I am interested in commissioning someone to replicate a simple
medieval 'kick' style pottery wheel. There is also a short video on youtube
showing one in use http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=W6rxr07sqp8 and I have a
few period illustrations I can send people. I wouldn't expect to throw more
than 5 lbs of clay at a time on this (it would primarily be for using at
demos, and making small things at home when I can't get to the studio).

Please contact me off list to discuss. This is something ideally I'd like to
have for next summer's demo season.

Thanks,

Kateryn Rous

============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======
The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside
List Info: http://merryrose. atlantia. sca.org/
Submissions: Atlantia@seahorse. atlantia. sca.org
Subscriptions:
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#11740 From: "Mike King" <the_spanishpeacock@...>
Date: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:55 am
Subject: RE: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel
thespanishpe...
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Someone actually contacted me about just such a beast a few days ago…..doing research now and planning on starting to play right after war

 

Miguel

 


From: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com [mailto:medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Dodge
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:32 PM
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

 

 

Anyone on this list ever make one?

Barbara
----- Original Message -----
From: <katrous@yahoo.com>
To: "Keep" <keep@windmastershill.org>; <atlantia@atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:31 AM
Subject: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

Hello! I am interested in commissioning someone to replicate a simple
medieval 'kick' style pottery wheel. There is also a short video on youtube
showing one in use http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6rxr07sqp8 and I have a
few period illustrations I can send people. I wouldn't expect to throw more
than 5 lbs of clay at a time on this (it would primarily be for using at
demos, and making small things at home when I can't get to the studio).

Please contact me off list to discuss. This is something ideally I'd like to
have for next summer's demo season.

Thanks,

Kateryn Rous

========================================================================
The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside
List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/
Submissions: Atlantia@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subscriptions:
http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/atlantia-atlantia.sca.org


#11741 From: "Barbara Dodge" <awench1@...>
Date: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:59 am
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel
awench2000
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Maybe I have gone about forwarding this message all wrong.  Don't forget, the original request is by someone on the Merry Rose (Atlantia's e-mail list).  Her name is Kateryn Rous (katrous@yahoo. com).  I'll be happy to continue forwarding info in regards to this project from the Merry Rose to the Sawdust list if you like.  I just want to make sure all necessary info is disseminated.
 
Below  marked with ** is additional info from Kateryn. 
Barb
 
**FWIW, here's some period illustrations of potters ... And the 15th C playing card on the site above is the kind I'm interested in.  http://www.larsdatter.com/potters.htm**
 
Note from Barbara:
Here is the direct link to the specific card that is mentioned above:                            http://www.khm.at/de/kunsthistorisches-museum/sammlungen/kunstkammer/varia/?aid=1&cHash=aab80f0abd
Try to ignore the sculpture to the right!
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

 

where are you? ( for shipping considerations )

got pictures of something like what you want?

foot powered or...?

have not made one before, sounds like it could be fun though...


 
Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart

Aude Aliquid Dignum
' Dare Something Worthy '



From: Barbara Dodge <awench1@cox.net>
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:32:09 PM
Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

 

Anyone on this list ever make one?

Barbara
----- Original Message -----
From: <katrous@yahoo. com>
To: "Keep" <keep@windmastershil l.org>; <atlantia@atlantia. sca.org>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:31 AM
Subject: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

Hello! I am interested in commissioning someone to replicate a simple
medieval 'kick' style pottery wheel. There is also a short video on youtube
showing one in use http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=W6rxr07sqp8 and I have a
few period illustrations I can send people. I wouldn't expect to throw more
than 5 lbs of clay at a time on this (it would primarily be for using at
demos, and making small things at home when I can't get to the studio).

Please contact me off list to discuss. This is something ideally I'd like to
have for next summer's demo season.

Thanks,

Kateryn Rous

============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======
The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside
List Info: http://merryrose. atlantia. sca.org/
Submissions: Atlantia@seahorse. atlantia. sca.org
Subscriptions:
http://seahorse. atlantia. sca.org/listinfo .cgi/atlantia- atlantia. sca.org



#11742 From: "Barbara Dodge" <awench1@...>
Date: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:05 am
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel
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Wow Conal, you are not dumb at all!  You realized your error even before I saw it and sent my message about the request coming from the Merry Rose etc.!
 
Barb
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

 

feeling dumb....

same mistake twice.....

that was supposed to be a reply to the sender....

( long day )

 
Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart

Aude Aliquid Dignum
' Dare Something Worthy '

.


#11743 From: Wolf <wolfeyes@...>
Date: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:37 am
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel
sancoeur
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Glad I am that you did, too!

("you" in the plural sense, here)

That looks highly interesting! I've toyed with the idea off and on for a
while, but my puny brain hasn't been able to work around some of the
engineering involved for what I was "thinking" I wanted to do. I also
wasn't overly-thrilled at the prospect of ending up with a table that I
could use for pretty much nothing else but turning pottery.

Plus, there's that trivial little issue about not even KNOWING how to do
pottery! Last time I did was ca. 1975, Jr.High Art. Even then, my
pottery was done a-la-table-top, not on a wheel.

Disk with a "bump" on the underside, eight uprights (I'm assuming eight,
the artist sure as heck made it look like an octagonal pattern!), disk
on top to work on! One of those "Duh!!" moments for sure.

Conal, if you're dumb, I must be a flippin' moron!

Wolf
(no, that is NOT an invitation to agree with me!)

Statue on the right? O-o-o-o-o-o-h-h-h-h-h.

On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 21:05 -0400, Barbara Dodge wrote:
>
> Wow Conal, you are not dumb at all!  You realized your error even
> before I saw it and sent my message about the request coming from the
> Merry Rose etc.!
>
> Barb
>
<snippified for brevity>

#11744 From: julian wilson <smnco37@...>
Date: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:28 pm
Subject: Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel
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Yes, I did. Back in the 1960's I did 4 years at Bishop Otter College [ BOC], Chichester, West Sussex, with a Craft Main Course, split between Woodworking [ I was already a professional woodworker before attending the College as a "mature" Student Teacher] - and Pottery.
The BOC Lecturer in Pottery & Ceramics [and my personal Tutor - we were each assigned one] was Norah Braden [may God be good to her] who was one of the first 2 students of the great Studio Potter, Bernard Leach when he set up his Workshop & Studio in St. Ives, Cornwall, between the Wars
Each Craft Main Course Student had to complete a Main Exhibition Project - and since I enjoyed "throwing" and wanted my own kickwheel, - it seemed natural to choose to make myself a kick-wheel as my Exhibition Project, with much advice from Norah Braden [ who by that date was a little, white-haired, rosy-cheeked lady who looked like everyone's ideal grandmother - and treated all "her" students as though was was that to them in fact]

Looking back down the years, I don't recall it being a particularly difficult job to do [ not nearly as demanding as - for example - building an 18ft long sloop-rigged, 3/4-decked One Design Dayboat - but then I was a Journeyman Shipwright from a traditional background; with good metal-working skills; and all my own woodworking tools; and the full run of the College's Metalworking Shop. and a Forge nearby where I was then living in the sailing-village of Bosham..

What happened to my kickwheel?
 I donated it to the College when I finished my Course because it was simply too bulky & heavy to move around; and since we were moving back to "old" Jersey, [ where I didn't see any Pottery in my future] - I thought I'd leave the kick-wheel to benefit future BOC students. For all I know, it might even still be there.

YiS,
 Matthew Baker

--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Barbara Dodge <awench1@...> wrote:

From: Barbara Dodge <awench1@...>
Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 21 July, 2009, 1:32 AM

 

Anyone on this list ever make one?

Barbara
----- Original Message -----
From: <katrous@yahoo. com>
To: "Keep" <keep@windmastershil l.org>; <atlantia@atlantia. sca.org>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:31 AM
Subject: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

Hello! I am interested in commissioning someone to replicate a simple
medieval 'kick' style pottery wheel. There is also a short video on youtube
showing one in use http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=W6rxr07sqp8 and I have a
few period illustrations I can send people. I wouldn't expect to throw more
than 5 lbs of clay at a time on this (it would primarily be for using at
demos, and making small things at home when I can't get to the studio).

Please contact me off list to discuss. This is something ideally I'd like to
have for next summer's demo season.

Thanks,

Kateryn Rous

============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======
The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside
List Info: http://merryrose. atlantia. sca.org/
Submissions: Atlantia@seahorse. atlantia. sca.org
Subscriptions:
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#11745 From: julian wilson <smnco37@...>
Date: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel
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Hmm,  having had a look at the card, that's an early "kick-wheel", with a very small "flywheel".
I'd say that will require a fair degree of skill to build it "right" and properly balanced; and a great deal of throwing experience to be able to use it properly and throw "good" pots.
The flywheel isn't very large or thick,  - and, unless it's made of a very dense stone - or cast from lead - won't store much rotational energy.
Every time the potter kicks, that will jar his/her body, which will tend to jar the throwing hands.
Moreover, there is no water-retaining tray arounf the turntable work-face [ a quick way to get absolutely filthy, IMHO], and so nothing to rest the hands upon while doing tightly controlled movements.
I would even want to think about trying to use the wheel  if built as illustrated !
Can we be sure that the illustrator hasn't used artistic license - and omitted things while striving to get the basic idea across to the viewer.
 Are there any other period illustrations of such a kick-wheel design to confirm/support the accuracy of the picture?

YiS,
 Matthew Baker

--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Barbara Dodge <awench1@...> wrote:

From: Barbara Dodge <awench1@...>
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 21 July, 2009, 1:59 AM

 

Maybe I have gone about forwarding this message all wrong.  Don't forget, the original request is by someone on the Merry Rose (Atlantia's e-mail list).  Her name is Kateryn Rous (katrous@yahoo. com).  I'll be happy to continue forwarding info in regards to this project from the Merry Rose to the Sawdust list if you like.  I just want to make sure all necessary info is disseminated.
 
Below  marked with ** is additional info from Kateryn. 
Barb
 
**FWIW, here's some period illustrations of potters ... And the 15th C playing card on the site above is the kind I'm interested in.  http://www.larsdatt er.com/potters. htm**
 
Note from Barbara:
Here is the direct link to the specific card that is mentioned above:                            http://www.khm. at/de/kunsthisto risches-museum/ sammlungen/ kunstkammer/ varia/?aid= 1&cHash=aab80f0abd
Try to ignore the sculpture to the right!
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

 

where are you? ( for shipping considerations )

got pictures of something like what you want?

foot powered or...?

have not made one before, sounds like it could be fun though...


 
Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart

Aude Aliquid Dignum
' Dare Something Worthy '



From: Barbara Dodge <awench1@cox. net>
To: medievalsawdust@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:32:09 PM
Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Fw: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

 

Anyone on this list ever make one?

Barbara
----- Original Message -----
From: <katrous@yahoo. com>
To: "Keep" <keep@windmastershil l.org>; <atlantia@atlantia. sca.org>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:31 AM
Subject: [MR] ISO woodworker to make pottery wheel

Hello! I am interested in commissioning someone to replicate a simple
medieval 'kick' style pottery wheel. There is also a short video on youtube
showing one in use http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=W6rxr07sqp8 and I have a
few period illustrations I can send people. I wouldn't expect to throw more
than 5 lbs of clay at a time on this (it would primarily be for using at
demos, and making small things at home when I can't get to the studio).

Please contact me off list to discuss. This is something ideally I'd like to
have for next summer's demo season.

Thanks,

Kateryn Rous

============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======
The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside
List Info: http://merryrose. atlantia. sca.org/
Submissions: Atlantia@seahorse. atlantia. sca.org
Subscriptions:
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#11746 From: Conal O'hAirt Jim Hart <baronconal@...>
Date: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:40 am
Subject: A 'Bowsaw' Bed?
baronconal
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This is a great idea ! ! ! ! !

I may have to try this one out.... as a trundle bed for Emma ( 4yrs )
I do not think it would work as a double bed for two adults.

My concern is head to foot 'racking' but I guess if the
'joint' area of the leg is wide enough that will not happen

http://www.manufactum.de/Produkt/194069/1444775/0/FaltbettBuchenholz.html

Sorry, the web site is German, but we are probably smart enough
to figure it out.
 
Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart

Aude Aliquid Dignum
' Dare Something Worthy '



#11747 From: "Bobby Bourgoin \(Robert du Bourg\)" <bobby.bourgoin@...>
Date: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:52 pm
Subject: RE: [MedievalSawdust] A 'Bowsaw' Bed?
robert_du_bourg
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It resembles the stretchers the military uses…

 

Seigneur Robert du Bourg

Sénéchal du Havre des Glaces

Homme d’Arme de Lord Marek O’Brien

Menuisier, Combattant, Archer, Danseur

bobby.bourgoin@...

Bobby Bourgoin

 

 


From: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com [mailto:medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Conal O'hAirt Jim Hart
Sent: 23 juillet 2009 07:40
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MedievalSawdust] A 'Bowsaw' Bed?

 

 

This is a great idea ! ! ! ! !

I may have to try this one out.... as a trundle bed for Emma ( 4yrs )
I do not think it would work as a double bed for two adults.

My concern is head to foot 'racking' but I guess if the
'joint' area of the leg is wide enough that will not happen

http://www.manufactum.de/Produkt/194069/1444775/0/FaltbettBuchenholz.html

Sorry, the web site is German, but we are probably smart enough
to figure it out.

 

Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart

Aude Aliquid Dignum
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#11748 From: Wolf <wolfeyes@...>
Date: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] A 'Bowsaw' Bed?
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Agreed - downright ingenious, clever, and a few other superlatives that
I can't think of off the top of my head!

Definitely a good project for singles and children (not "to do"...oh,
you know what I mean!). Especially at 345.00 Euro. "At the moment", that
converts to $492.33, and my German's far too rusty to figure out if that
includes shipping!

Thanks, Conal - just what I needed, something *else* for my "to do"
list!

Wolf

On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 04:40 -0700, Conal O'hAirt Jim Hart wrote:
>
> This is a great idea ! ! ! ! !
>
> I may have to try this one out.... as a trundle bed for Emma ( 4yrs )
> I do not think it would work as a double bed for two adults.
>
> My concern is head to foot 'racking' but I guess if the
> 'joint' area of the leg is wide enough that will not happen
>
> http://www.manufactum.de/Produkt/194069/1444775/0/FaltbettBuchenholz.html
>
> Sorry, the web site is German, but we are probably smart enough
> to figure it out.
>
> Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart
>
> Aude Aliquid Dignum
> ' Dare Something Worthy '
>

#11749 From: "Greg" <gs_lutz@...>
Date: Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: A 'Bowsaw' Bed?
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I like the idea, and think that it would be far easier to assembe at times than
the vintage military cot that I currently sleep on.

I too am curious about any racking that might occur with the leg to rail joint.
As well if you got too um . . . enthusiastic on tightening the ropes what would
the result be.

It is very tempting to make on, but I would probably change the depth of the leg
joint. Thats just me.

#11750 From: "kirkdrago" <kith@...>
Date: Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: A 'Bowsaw' Bed?
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I think you could add some korbals to give it some head to foot strength fairly
easily.  The design is great and I'm going to incorporate it into something, but
probably not a bed.  My lady's version of roughing it means that the hotel we're
in doesn't have an attached coffee shop.

KirKD

#11751 From: julian wilson <smnco37@...>
Date: Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: A 'Bowsaw' Bed?
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--- On Sat, 25/7/09, kirkdrago <kith@...> wrote:
SNIPPED FOR BREVITY
My lady's version of "roughing it" means that the hotel we're in doesn't have an attached coffee shop.
KirKD
COMMENT
My Lord of Drago,
oh, how Kingdom views on camping differ!
This reminds me of one of the sayings about SCA  camping supposed to be common in Caid - viz
"What do you mean, the cabins don't  have hot-tubs and saunas!"

Whereas in Drachenwald it's more likely to be something like
"Waht do you mean - we can't pitch our tents in the Castle's dry moat?"

YiS,
 Matthew Baker, ODB.,
[ chuckling]
from "old" Jersey





























#11752 From: "Adam MacDonald" <caid.court.musician@...>
Date: Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:42 pm
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: A 'Bowsaw' Bed?
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In Caid, our camping events don't have cabins.
 
Iskander, Caid
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Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: A 'Bowsaw' Bed?

--- On Sat, 25/7/09, kirkdrago <kith@...> wrote:
SNIPPED FOR BREVITY
My lady's version of "roughing it" means that the hotel we're in doesn't have an attached coffee shop.
KirKD
COMMENT
My Lord of Drago,
oh, how Kingdom views on camping differ!
This reminds me of one of the sayings about SCA  camping supposed to be common in Caid - viz
"What do you mean, the cabins don't  have hot-tubs and saunas!"

Whereas in Drachenwald it's more likely to be something like
"Waht do you mean - we can't pitch our tents in the Castle's dry moat?"

YiS,
 Matthew Baker, ODB.,
[ chuckling]
from "old" Jersey





























#11753 From: julian wilson <smnco37@...>
Date: Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:04 pm
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: A 'Bowsaw' Bed?
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My Lord Iskander, I do but quote from a humourous List entitled "Attitudes to Camping, listed by Kingdoms"
 copied to me by a 30year SCAdian, now resident in Drachenwald; viz -
QUOTE

SCA Area “camping-attitude” quotes –

An Tir #1– “What’s that bright thing in the sky?”

An Tir #2: Rust is Period, dammit!

These are several proposed Kingdom of An Tir mottoes:
An Tir; when you positively, absolutely HAVE to find out how much your van can hold.
An Tir, when being within a half year on period fashions isn't close enough.
An Tir, when you can't possibly get muddy ENOUGH.
An Tir, “Scotchguarded” for your protection.
An Tir, arrive in pouring rain, and set up your tent in horse poop!
An Tir; going blind doing embroidery since 1973!
An Tir; if the babes don't make you stay, the food will! That, or the hangover.
An Tir; if you're up before 8 and NOT on volunteer duty, you haven't been drinking enough!
An Tir; kidnapped by gypsies and weaned on mead.

An Tir:  Full size SUV and trailer = room for one.

An Tir:  Camping is like moving, only you put all your living room furniture back on Monday. And the feather bed... all interior decorations...

An Tir, May Crown: “no, that's not my tent frame, it's the bed”.   - answering comments from the Troll at Gate.  (that from my New Beetle days when I put a Queen size mortice and tenon bed-frame in it)

Northshield: Just break the ice out of the porta castle

West Kingdom: What do you mean this site isn't eco-friendly?

Middle Kingdom: shake the rattlesnakes out of your sleeping bag.

Atlantia #1: What do you mean there's no hot water in my cabin?

Atlantia #2: Cabins are for peasants. We stay in hotels!

Caid #1:  "Camping?  We don't need no stinkin' camping!"

Caid #2: "Camping!?!   Where is the closest Hotel?"

Caid #3  "What do you mean - the cabins don't have hot-tubs and saunas?"

Calontir #1:  "What? Are you kidding? *Of Course* I know a song!"

Calontir #2: Who needs a tent? We have the Purple Pimple....

Drachenwald: "what do you mean, we are not allowed to pitch tents in the castle's dry moat.?"

Trimaris - "Let's do Elizabethan garb in 110 degrees F. at 98% humidity!"

Outlands: “Don't bother to paint your tent, the site will make sure it turns the same colour as the blowing dirt.

Gleann Abhann:  "If the site does not have Cabins we can't use it!"

Meridian: "It's good to see the kids carrying on the home Kingdom traditions".

Ansteorra:  If you don't like the weather, wait an hour.  It'll change.

Atenveldt: Concrete Nails, Railroad Spikes and Rebar - how Atenveldter's  say "Tent Stake"

Estrella: It’s the weather that you *didn't* pack for.

One I haven't seen mentioned yet from my younger day in Meridies is

"I want to stay in the powder magazine at Gatalop!"

Pentamere Region, Midrealm:  "Living well is the best revenge. From Coleman stoves and dry tents at Pennsic IV to the Shadow Clan's Cathedral... we know how to live right."

East, Shire of Quintavia: "If you don't like the weather wait 5 minutes".

East, Canton of Aschehyrst: We may not dress pretty but we sure can shoot!

Pennsic: - 1.  It ain't Pennsic without a quart of chocolate milk from Cooper's store!!  
                Or 2. we're here for the chocolate milk!

Caidan Royal Artillery Corp to SCA newcomers: "Pardon me, did you know that your tent is on the battlefield?"

Atenveldt: 1. Bring your own shade

                  2.. Don't forget the landscaping nails!

Calontir: - My first thought was:  "Storm?  What storm?  The sky isn't even green yet!"

               I'm surprised Tibor didn't chime in with "If they aren't throwing the

beer out of the pit, don't panic."

               But, in the end, I think what sums up Calontir camping the best is

"Yeah, it may be a bit crowded, but we're all together."

ENDIT


YiS,
Lord Matthew Baker,
[grinning after re-reading that list of possibly ficticious sayings]
dwelling in "old" Jersey

#11754 From: Abrahe aragoa <abrahecaragoca@...>
Date: Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: A 'Bowsaw' Bed?
abrahe_caragoca
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AnTir:    GMC Suburban - Official Vehicle of The Kingdom of AnTir, SCA, Inc.

Abrahe

julian wilson wrote:
 

My Lord Iskander, I do but quote from a humourous List entitled "Attitudes to Camping, listed by Kingdoms"
 copied to me by a 30year SCAdian, now resident in Drachenwald; viz -
QUOTE

SCA Area “camping-attitude” quotes –

An Tir #1– “What’s that bright thing in the sky?”

An Tir #2: Rust is Period, dammit!

These are several proposed Kingdom of An Tir mottoes:
An Tir; when you positively, absolutely HAVE to find out how much your van can hold.
An Tir, when being within a half year on period fashions isn't close enough.
An Tir, when you can't possibly get muddy ENOUGH.
An Tir, “Scotchguarded” for your protection.
An Tir, arrive in pouring rain, and set up your tent in horse poop!
An Tir; going blind doing embroidery since 1973!
An Tir; if the babes don't make you stay, the food will! That, or the hangover.
An Tir; if you're up before 8 and NOT on volunteer duty, you haven't been drinking enough!
An Tir; kidnapped by gypsies and weaned on mead.

An Tir:  Full size SUV and trailer = room for one.

An Tir:  Camping is like moving, only you put all your living room furniture back on Monday. And the feather bed... all interior decorations...

An Tir, May Crown: “no, that's not my tent frame, it's the bed”.   - answering comments from the Troll at Gate.  (that from my New Beetle days when I put a Queen size mortice and tenon bed-frame in it)

Northshield: Just break the ice out of the porta castle

West Kingdom: What do you mean this site isn't eco-friendly?

Middle Kingdom: shake the rattlesnakes out of your sleeping bag.

Atlantia #1: What do you mean there's no hot water in my cabin?

Atlantia #2: Cabins are for peasants. We stay in hotels!

Caid #1:  "Camping?  We don't need no stinkin' camping!"

Caid #2: "Camping!?!   Where is the closest Hotel?"

Caid #3  "What do you mean - the cabins don't have hot-tubs and saunas?"

Calontir #1:  "What? Are you kidding? *Of Course* I know a song!"

Calontir #2: Who needs a tent? We have the Purple Pimple....

Drachenwald: "what do you mean, we are not allowed to pitch tents in the castle's dry moat.?"

Trimaris - "Let's do Elizabethan garb in 110 degrees F. at 98% humidity!"

Outlands: “Don't bother to paint your tent, the site will make sure it turns the same colour as the blowing dirt.

Gleann Abhann:  "If the site does not have Cabins we can't use it!"

Meridian: "It's good to see the kids carrying on the home Kingdom traditions".

Ansteorra:  If you don't like the weather, wait an hour.  It'll change.

Atenveldt: Concrete Nails, Railroad Spikes and Rebar - how Atenveldter's  say "Tent Stake"

Estrella: It’s the weather that you *didn't* pack for.

One I haven't seen mentioned yet from my younger day in Meridies is

"I want to stay in the powder magazine at Gatalop!"

Pentamere Region, Midrealm:  "Living well is the best revenge. From Coleman stoves and dry tents at Pennsic IV to the Shadow Clan's Cathedral... we know how to live right."

East, Shire of Quintavia: "If you don't like the weather wait 5 minutes".

East, Canton of Aschehyrst: We may not dress pretty but we sure can shoot!

Pennsic: - 1.  It ain't Pennsic without a quart of chocolate milk from Cooper's store!!  
                Or 2. we're here for the chocolate milk!

Caidan Royal Artillery Corp to SCA newcomers: "Pardon me, did you know that your tent is on the battlefield?"

Atenveldt: 1. Bring your own shade

                  2.. Don't forget the landscaping nails!

Calontir: - My first thought was:  "Storm?  What storm?  The sky isn't even green yet!"

               I'm surprised Tibor didn't chime in with "If they aren't throwing the

beer out of the pit, don't panic."

               But, in the end, I think what sums up Calontir camping the best is

"Yeah, it may be a bit crowded, but we're all together."

ENDIT


YiS,
Lord Matthew Baker,
[grinning after re-reading that list of possibly ficticious sayings]
dwelling in "old" Jersey


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#11755 From: Conal O'hAirt Jim Hart <baronconal@...>
Date: Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:38 pm
Subject: member number 899
baronconal
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member number 899 joined today.

wonder when we will reach 1000?


 
Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart

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' Dare Something Worthy '



#11756 From: Conal O'hAirt Jim Hart <baronconal@...>
Date: Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:14 pm
Subject: interesting link
baronconal
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http://www.evenfallstudios.com/woodworks_library/woodworks_library.html#Blacksmithing,
 
Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart

Aude Aliquid Dignum
' Dare Something Worthy '



#11757 From: "Ralph Lindberg" <n7bsn@...>
Date: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:50 am
Subject: Re: Powermatic Lathe
n7bsn
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--- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "Barbara Dodge" <awench1@...> wrote:
>
> It's my hope to turn some serving platters and bowls for my Barony as well as
some larger projects for myself.  This is (hopefully) the last lathe I will ever
have to buy.  I don't plan on turning tree trunks!
>


Great Lathe, no really. Yesterday I was at a seminar by Jimmy Clewes and he
thinks it's the best lathe for the money there is, it's what he bought for his
teaching lathes.

While Woodcraft is not a bad place to shop, it's hardly my favorite place to buy
spinny things.

Craft Supplies USA ranks up there ( http://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/)
Packard Woodworks is another ( http://www.packardwoodworks.com/)
KMS Tools is the third ( http://www.kmstools.com/ )

Robust tools rests are about the best there is.

I don't like Oneway Chucks, as the tenon they use is straight, not dove-tailed.
Dove-tailed is stronger, much stronger. For that reason I use Nova chucks,
although Vicmarc are great too. Nova jaws are 100%  interchangeable between
chucks, while Vicmarc makes a wider variety of jaws.

For face-plates, I like Don Pencil's, check his blems for good deals
http://www.donpencil.com/

For tools, the list is, well, endless...

If you are really serious about improving your techniques, check into your local
chapter of the AAW http://www.woodturner.org/

TTFN
Ralg (who only owns two lathes, but is planning on building a third)
AnTir

#11758 From: avery1415@...
Date: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:51 pm
Subject: Roughing It (was: A 'Bowsaw' Bed)
avery1415
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>My lady's version of roughing it means that the hotel we're in doesn't >have an
attached coffee shop.

You know, they make a sweet little espresso device that works well with a
Coleman stove, and Italian drip or is practically designed for camping out in
the woods.  I mean have you ever looked at the infernal devices in most hotels? 
(Just trying to help.)

I love explaining what I do for fun to people and finally have to come out and
say something like, "Oh, come on.  Everyone takes 500 pounds of solid oak
furniture camping in the woods."

The thing I've always found interesting at Pennsic is the way people sort out
when a thunderstorm is coming.  If Pennsic got an even draw of scadians I
wounder how the sides would be if the two armies were sorted out based on "Looks
like some rain." and "We're all going to die!"

Avery

#11759 From: "sean14powell" <powell.sean@...>
Date: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:27 pm
Subject: Q: Surface treatment before 2nd coat of Polyeurethane or Verithane?
sean14powell
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Hello, this is my first post here and I haven't had time to read the entire
archive so please excuse my ignorance if this has been covered multiple times
before.

I am attempting to finish up a pair of glastonbury-esk chairs before Pennsic.
They are in 5/4 pine and were sanded rather nicely before a cherry stain. Last
night they got their first coat of Helmsman Spar Varithane (Minwax brand if that
matters). This morning the surface is rough and scratchy in patches, I assume
because the grain was raised by the Verithane. I did not notice this after the
staining.

I always intended a 2nd coat of verithane anyway. What is the best way to smooth
and prep the surface before proceding? I vaguely remember something about
steel-wool but do not know which grade is appropriate. I could take it back to
the belt sander and palm sander but I'm worried about removing too much
verithane and maybe exposing un-stained wood.

Any/all advice is appriciated.

Thanks,
Sean

#11760 From: <afpopa@...>
Date: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Q: Surface treatment before 2nd coat of Polyeurethane or Verithane?
afpopa
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From the Min-Wax website:

5.Apply a thin coat of Helmsman® Spar Urethane using a high quality natural
bristle brush. On unfinished wood, apply sufficient material to seal open
joints, edges and end-grain.
6.Let dry at least four hours, then sand entire surface lightly with very fine
sandpaper (220 grit) to ensure an even finish and proper adhesion of additional
coats.
7.Apply second coat. If a third coat is desired, repeat Step 6 before applying.
Note: For exterior surfaces or for previously unfinished wood, three coats are
recommended.
8.After final coat, allow 24 hours before normal use.

---- sean14powell <powell.sean@...> wrote:
What is the best way to smooth and prep the surface before proceding?

#11761 From: "Oakes, George" <goakes@...>
Date: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:58 pm
Subject: RE: [SPAM] Re: [MedievalSawdust] Q: Surface treatment before 2nd coat of Polyeurethane or Verithane?
gavin.kinkade
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It should be noted, if it’s not already apparent

 

Insert these steps into the steps below

 

#4.  after sanding to desired smoothness, remove excess sawdust, by using a  tack cloth or similar dust removal system before applying Urethane

And

#6a.  remove excess sawdust, by using a  tack cloth or similar dust removal system before applying next coat of Urethane (repeat after each coat of Urethane, and sanding)

 

From: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com [mailto:medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of afpopa@...
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:39 AM
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [MedievalSawdust] Q: Surface treatment before 2nd coat of Polyeurethane or Verithane?
Importance: Low

 

 

From the Min-Wax website:

5.Apply a thin coat of Helmsman® Spar Urethane using a high quality natural bristle brush. On unfinished wood, apply sufficient material to seal open joints, edges and end-grain.
6.Let dry at least four hours, then sand entire surface lightly with very fine sandpaper (220 grit) to ensure an even finish and proper adhesion of additional coats.
7.Apply second coat. If a third coat is desired, repeat Step 6 before applying. Note: For exterior surfaces or for previously unfinished wood, three coats are recommended.
8.After final coat, allow 24 hours before normal use.

---- sean14powell <powell.sean@...> wrote:
What is the best way to smooth and prep the surface before proceding?


#11762 From: Conal O'hAirt Jim Hart <baronconal@...>
Date: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [MedievalSawdust] Q: Surface treatment before 2nd coat of Polyeurethane or Verithane?
baronconal
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I tried a small roller the other day with some water based poly
( semi gloss ) I used a small 6" roller....

I got a lot of little bubbles even going slow. But it went on
much quicker than brushing and there were no brush marks.
( give and take I guess )

I put down a second coat and then sanded once that was dry.
That did not take all that long...

I brushed on a third coat and followed that with paste wax and a
buff....The two prior coats sanded smooth gave me a great base
to work on top of for this final coat

REALLY NICE results. In fact the best results I've gotten using
water based poly.

 
Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart

Aude Aliquid Dignum
' Dare Something Worthy '



From: "Oakes, George" <goakes@...>
To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:58:08 AM
Subject: RE: [SPAM] Re: [MedievalSawdust] Q: Surface treatment before 2nd coat of Polyeurethane or Verithane?

 

It should be noted, if it’s not already apparent

 

Insert these steps into the steps below

 

#4.  after sanding to desired smoothness, remove excess sawdust, by using a  tack cloth or similar dust removal system before applying Urethane

And

#6a.  remove excess sawdust, by using a  tack cloth or similar dust removal system before applying next coat of Urethane (repeat after each coat of Urethane, and sanding)

 

From: medievalsawdust@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:medievalsaw dust@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of afpopa@...
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:39 AM
To: medievalsawdust@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [MedievalSawdust] Q: Surface treatment before 2nd coat of Polyeurethane or Verithane?
Importance: Low

 

 

From the Min-Wax website:

5.Apply a thin coat of Helmsman® Spar Urethane using a high quality natural bristle brush. On unfinished wood, apply sufficient material to seal open joints, edges and end-grain.
6.Let dry at least four hours, then sand entire surface lightly with very fine sandpaper (220 grit) to ensure an even finish and proper adhesion of additional coats.
7.Apply second coat. If a third coat is desired, repeat Step 6 before applying. Note: For exterior surfaces or for previously unfinished wood, three coats are recommended.
8.After final coat, allow 24 hours before normal use.

---- sean14powell <powell.sean@ comcast.net> wrote:
What is the best way to smooth and prep the surface before proceding?



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