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#4402 From: "robtyenow" <robtyenow@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
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Hi Andy

Its a while since I posted here – and I was pleased to see Steve's mildly
provocative post of 12th December was received in the constructive manner that
he surely intended it.

you write:

<<There doesn't seem to be a message counter as there is on the Everycountry
site, but it's my impression that we are often in single digits monthly with
many of those offering some kind of junk for sale>>

Yes – across all the coin groups I am signed into there seems to me to have been
a very marked drop in volume, and general standard of mails coming in, for many
months now.

I do not contribute to groups which have an open archive policy – in part
because I do not like to see google taking my comments out of context and
plastering them all over the internet.  I mentioned this before (under a
previous moderator I suspect), but if there is now a will here to follow the
lead of ICG etc, and close to archive of MCG (making it members only), I would
be pleased to take part again.

best wishes to all

Robert Tye

http://earlyworldcoins.com

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--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Singer" <andysinger@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Steve,
>
> I am another who doesn't receive the Celator, but this isn't exceptional for
medievalists.  I did view the article briefly in a friend's copy, however, and
would request an ecopy from you so that I can actually study it and send in a
few comments.
>
> I am also glad to see that the Medievalcoins message traffic has picked up a
bit.  There doesn't seem to be a message counter as there is on the Everycountry
site, but it's my impression that we are often in single digits monthly, with
many of those offering some kind of junk for sale.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Andy
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#4401 From: Georges Depeyrot <georges.depeyrot@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:26 pm
Subject: Duke Richard
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To publish in an European numismatic journal is a very good idea.
I can arrange this in the next issue of the Bulletin du Cercle d'Etudes
Numismatiques (Brussels).
They are collecting the papers right now for the December issue. I think that
there is no problem to publish in English.

If you are ok, just send me a mail to my own email, I will call at night (in few
hours here) to see what can be done.

Best

Georges

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#4400 From: "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
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Hi David,
Please send your email address to:

alandeshazo@...

I will send the page later this evening. Thanks for your interest.

Regards,
Alan



--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "crusadercoins" <amelialevy@...> wrote:
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> Dear Mr. DeShazo,
> If not too trouble for you, I'd like to receive a copy via word or PDF.
> Thanks,
> David.
>
> --- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Andy,
> > I'm very glad to hear from you. I've been wondering how to open a
> > working relationship with you to help build my collection. I'm not able to
attend shows because of a fairly rigid obligation to my employer. I will send an
ecopy to your business email address. IF
> > you are unable to open the Word doc. just let me know and I can arrange a
jpeg. It is rather brief and to the point and is complete on one page. I'm
pleased that you remembered that I used to go by
> > Steve, the short form of my middle name Stephen.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Steve
> >
> > --- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Singer" <andysinger@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Steve,
> > >
> > > I am another who doesn't receive the Celator, but this isn't exceptional
for medievalists.  I did view the article briefly in a friend's copy, however,
and would request an ecopy from you so that I can actually study it and send in
a few comments.
> > >
> > > I am also glad to see that the Medievalcoins message traffic has picked up
a bit.  There doesn't seem to be a message counter as there is on the
Everycountry site, but it's my impression that we are often in single digits
monthly, with many of those offering some kind of junk for sale.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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#4399 From: "crusadercoins" <amelialevy@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
crusadercoins
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Dear Mr. DeShazo,
If not too trouble for you, I'd like to receive a copy via word or PDF.
Thanks,
David.

--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...> wrote:
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>
> Dear Andy,
> I'm very glad to hear from you. I've been wondering how to open a
> working relationship with you to help build my collection. I'm not able to
attend shows because of a fairly rigid obligation to my employer. I will send an
ecopy to your business email address. IF
> you are unable to open the Word doc. just let me know and I can arrange a
jpeg. It is rather brief and to the point and is complete on one page. I'm
pleased that you remembered that I used to go by
> Steve, the short form of my middle name Stephen.
>
> Best regards,
> Steve
>
> --- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Singer" <andysinger@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Steve,
> >
> > I am another who doesn't receive the Celator, but this isn't exceptional for
medievalists.  I did view the article briefly in a friend's copy, however, and
would request an ecopy from you so that I can actually study it and send in a
few comments.
> >
> > I am also glad to see that the Medievalcoins message traffic has picked up a
bit.  There doesn't seem to be a message counter as there is on the Everycountry
site, but it's my impression that we are often in single digits monthly, with
many of those offering some kind of junk for sale.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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#4398 From: "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:22 am
Subject: Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
alandeshazo
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Dear Andy,
I'm very glad to hear from you. I've been wondering how to open a
working relationship with you to help build my collection. I'm not able to
attend shows because of a fairly rigid obligation to my employer. I will send an
ecopy to your business email address. IF
you are unable to open the Word doc. just let me know and I can arrange a jpeg.
It is rather brief and to the point and is complete on one page. I'm pleased
that you remembered that I used to go by
Steve, the short form of my middle name Stephen.

Best regards,
Steve

--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Singer" <andysinger@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Steve,
>
> I am another who doesn't receive the Celator, but this isn't exceptional for
medievalists.  I did view the article briefly in a friend's copy, however, and
would request an ecopy from you so that I can actually study it and send in a
few comments.
>
> I am also glad to see that the Medievalcoins message traffic has picked up a
bit.  There doesn't seem to be a message counter as there is on the Everycountry
site, but it's my impression that we are often in single digits monthly, with
many of those offering some kind of junk for sale.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Andy
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#4397 From: "Andy Singer" <andysinger@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:38 am
Subject: Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
erarddelamarck
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Dear Steve,

I am another who doesn't receive the Celator, but this isn't exceptional for
medievalists.  I did view the article briefly in a friend's copy, however, and
would request an ecopy from you so that I can actually study it and send in a
few comments.

I am also glad to see that the Medievalcoins message traffic has picked up a
bit.  There doesn't seem to be a message counter as there is on the Everycountry
site, but it's my impression that we are often in single digits monthly, with
many of those offering some kind of junk for sale.

Best wishes,

Andy

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#4396 From: "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...>
Date: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:23 pm
Subject: Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
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Tony Merson is correct, and I did consider submitting the article to one of the
scholarly journals but wanted to get it in print sooner partly because a number
of the Rouen deniers of the type were currently on the market but attributed
according to Dumas's queried suggestion. Since submitting my article, William
Hyder kindly scanned some pertinent pages and plates from the hoard report. I
had a brief panic attack when I saw that Dumas had illustrated the St.Philbert
denier that displayed the Lothaire insignia and legend. In her text, the legend
on that coin was defectively given. The letter "G" was omitted from a key part
of the legend recording INSINE instead of INSIGNE that is actually on the coin.
If that was only a typographical error, I don't understand how she overlooked
what was to me an obvious conclusion. If the fault was a transcription error
then an opportunity was missed.

Another factor in my decision is my age. Although I am able to work 5 days a
week in a somewhat high pressure office, I am 70 years old, and who knows....? I
have taken the precaution of emailing scans of the article to a number of
people. One of them, Pierre Crinon, has offered to find a copy of the hoard
report for me.

For those that haven't seen the article the deniers given by Dumas to Archbishop
Hugues were actually recording an alliance between Duke Richard I and the
Carolingian King Lothaire.

Alan S. DeShazo







--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@...> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>  
> I think Celator has very limited circulation here. I don't see it and I don't
know any UK recipient except possibly British Museum. Don't think the joint
library of the British and Royal Numismatic Societies receive it.
>  
> Any serious contribution should perhaps be published in a French version in
the BSFN.
> I assume you eventually found a copy of Mme Dumas' Fécamp volume or at least
have studied carefully whatever she wrote.
>  
> As to dealers picking up changed attributions, in my experience it takes 15-20
years for published articles to get noticed! The redating of the first maille
tournois to nearly 20 years earlier than 1306 has yet to feature in dealers'
lists. They trot out the same old rubbish descriptions year after year!
>  
> Seasonal Greetings,
>  
> Tony Merson
>
> --- On Sun, 13/12/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...> wrote:
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> From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...>
> Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
> To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 16:26
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> Yes, Georges wrote that it is "a very important paper". It has not yet been
adopted by coin dealers, but many of them may not have seen it or prefer to stay
with the old attribution until they see further evidence. I have submitted a
follow-up article that will be in either the January or February Celator. This
second article includes information that I didn't have prior to the submission
of the original article.
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, David Mee <david_h_mee@ ...> wrote:
> >
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> > Hi Alan,
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> > My Celator arrives a bit later than for those who live in the USA.
> > I read your article. Short and to the point, and a plausible deduction.
However, it is not my specialty and I am only, as the French say, "un amateur".
Did you get any comments from a scholar such as Depeyrot? These would be more
meaningful. He is a member of the Medieval Coin Group.
> >
> > Regards,
> > David mee
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> > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
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> > Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:52:07 +0000
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deniers of Rouen formerly attributed to Archbishop Hughes. This article offers
evidence of a more likely attribution. A follow up article is planned for a
future issue of the Celator based on additional information gained since the
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#4395 From: Tony Merson <mersonrafca@...>
Date: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:56 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
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Hi all,
 
I think Celator has very limited circulation here. I don't see it and I don't
know any UK recipient except possibly British Museum. Don't think the joint
library of the British and Royal Numismatic Societies receive it.
 
Any serious contribution should perhaps be published in a French version in the
BSFN.
I assume you eventually found a copy of Mme Dumas' Fécamp volume or at least
have studied carefully whatever she wrote.
 
As to dealers picking up changed attributions, in my experience it takes 15-20
years for published articles to get noticed! The redating of the first maille
tournois to nearly 20 years earlier than 1306 has yet to feature in dealers'
lists. They trot out the same old rubbish descriptions year after year!
 
Seasonal Greetings,
 
Tony Merson

--- On Sun, 13/12/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...> wrote:


From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...>
Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 16:26


 





Hi David,

Yes, Georges wrote that it is "a very important paper". It has not yet been
adopted by coin dealers, but many of them may not have seen it or prefer to stay
with the old attribution until they see further evidence. I have submitted a
follow-up article that will be in either the January or February Celator. This
second article includes information that I didn't have prior to the submission
of the original article.

Regards,
Alan

--- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, David Mee <david_h_mee@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> My Celator arrives a bit later than for those who live in the USA.
> I read your article. Short and to the point, and a plausible deduction.
However, it is not my specialty and I am only, as the French say, "un amateur".
Did you get any comments from a scholar such as Depeyrot? These would be more
meaningful. He is a member of the Medieval Coin Group.
>
> Regards,
> David mee
>
> To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> From: alandeshazo@ ...
> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:52:07 +0000
> Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
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deniers of Rouen formerly attributed to Archbishop Hughes. This article offers
evidence of a more likely attribution. A follow up article is planned for a
future issue of the Celator based on additional information gained since the
submission of the current article.
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#4394 From: "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...>
Date: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
alandeshazo
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Hi David,

Yes, Georges wrote that it is "a very important paper". It has not yet been
adopted by coin dealers, but many of them may not have seen it or prefer to stay
with the old attribution until they see further evidence. I have submitted a
follow-up article that will be in either the January or February Celator. This
second article includes information that I didn't have prior to the submission
of the original article.

Regards,
Alan


--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, David Mee <david_h_mee@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> My Celator arrives a bit later than for those who live in the USA.
> I read your article. Short and to the point, and a plausible deduction.
However, it is not my specialty and I am only, as the French say, "un amateur".
Did you get any comments from a scholar such as Depeyrot? These would be more
meaningful. He is a member of the Medieval Coin Group.
>
> Regards,
> David mee
>
> To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
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> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:52:07 +0000
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deniers of Rouen formerly attributed to Archbishop Hughes. This article offers
evidence of a more likely attribution. A follow up article is planned for a
future issue of the Celator based on additional information gained since the
submission of the current article.
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#4393 From: David Mee <david_h_mee@...>
Date: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:06 am
Subject: RE: Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
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Hi Alan,

My Celator arrives a bit later than for those who live in the USA.
I read your article. Short and to the point, and a plausible deduction. However,
it is not my specialty and I am only, as the French say, "un amateur". Did you
get any comments from a scholar such as Depeyrot? These would be more
meaningful. He is a member of the Medieval Coin Group.

Regards,
David mee

To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
From: alandeshazo@...
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:52:07 +0000
Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire




























       So far no comments from this group on the article. Did no one read it?



Alan S.



--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...> wrote:

>

> The November 2009 issue of the Celator has an article that I wrote on the
deniers of Rouen formerly attributed to Archbishop Hughes. This article offers
evidence of a more likely attribution. A follow up article is planned for a
future issue of the Celator based on additional information gained since the
submission of the current article.

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> Alan S. DeShazo

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#4392 From: "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...>
Date: Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
alandeshazo
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So far no comments from this group on the article. Did no one read it?

Alan S.


--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...> wrote:
>
> The November 2009 issue of the Celator has an article that I wrote on the
deniers of Rouen formerly attributed to Archbishop Hughes. This article offers
evidence of a more likely attribution. A follow up article is planned for a
future issue of the Celator based on additional information gained since the
submission of the current article.
>
> Alan S. DeShazo
>

#4391 From: "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:26 am
Subject: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
alandeshazo
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The November 2009 issue of the Celator has an article that I wrote on the
deniers of Rouen formerly attributed to Archbishop Hughes. This article offers
evidence of a more likely attribution. A follow up article is planned for a
future issue of the Celator based on additional information gained since the
submission of the current article.

Alan S. DeShazo

#4390 From: "John R Powell" <petronius_ii@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:53 pm
Subject: Hammered 1581 Threepence of Elizabeth I Relisted
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My Ebay seller profile is at:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpetronius_ii

For tonight, ending in less than four hours, I've relisted my bargain threepence
of Elizabeth I. By all rights, this medium-grade specimen should have sold first
time out, but for some reason it didn't. Despite extensive wear, this one is
well-preserved enough to be deeply evocative of its time and place. As before,
this coin is getting some attention, but no bids yet, so I do hope you'll take a
look at this one. I'd really HATE to see the hammer come down on this one a
second time without a sale.

#4389 From: Robert Kokotailo <robert@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 7:07 pm
Subject: $$ coin show this weekend in Edmonton
calgarycoins
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This Saturday and Sunday (November 7th and 8th, 2009) the Edmonton
Numismatic Society will be hold their fall coin show at the Mayfield
Inn, 16615 - 109th Avenue Edmonton, Alberta  The show will be open to
the public Saturday from 10 to 5 and Sunday from 10 to 4.

Calgary Coin will be in attendance with our entire inventory of
ancient, medieval and modern coins.

Please feel free to drop by for a visit if you are in the Edmonton area.


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#4388 From: "John R Powell" <petronius_ii@...>
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 7:49 pm
Subject: Next Week, Bargain Hammered 1581 Threepence of Elizabeth I
petronius_ii
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My Ebay seller profile is at:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpetronius_ii

For Tuesday evening next week, I've listed a bargain threepence of Elizabeth I.
This is a medium-low grade specimen that, despite extensive wear, is
well-preserved enough to be deeply evocative of its time and place. This coin is
already getting some attention despite my not having advertised it until now,
but no bids yet, so I hope you'll take a look at this one.

#4387 From: Georges Depeyrot <georges.depeyrot@...>
Date: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:17 pm
Subject: Last 2009 numismatic publications (Moneta, Wetteren)
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Dear all,

The last numismatic books (<http://www.moneta.be>www.moneta.be) for 2009
are now available: Greek, Roman, Byzantine, modern coins and coinage,
hoards, etc.
In 2009 Moneta published 17 volumes, about 4500 pages of numismatics and
monetary history.

The two first volumes for 2010 are already in press and will be available
in January.

Best wishes

Georges Depeyrot

#4386 From: Robert Kokotailo <robert@...>
Date: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:40 am
Subject: $$ Montreal coin show this weekend
calgarycoins
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This Friday, Saturday and Sunday (October 30, 31 and November 1,
2009) the Nuphilex coin show will be held at the Holiday Inn
(Midtown), 420 Sherbrooke West, Montreal. The hours will be :

Friday :  11:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.
Saturday: 10:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.
Sunday:   10:00 a.m. - 3:00 p.m.

Calgary Coin will have our usual table, with a large inventory of
ancient, medieval and modern world coins.

We will have a fairly good selection of medieval coins with us,
including British, European, Crusader and Islamic.








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#4385 From: "John R Powell" <petronius_ii@...>
Date: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:55 pm
Subject: $$ Thursday, Rare Dark Ages Coin, Alchon Huns in Gandhara, Ex-Berk
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My Ebay seller profile is at:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpetronius_ii

After this month's coin show, I was away from Ebay for a few weeks, and am now
scrambling like crazy to get as many interesting coins and artifacts listed as I
can.

This ex-Harlan Berk AE of the Alchon Huns in Gandhara is a very interesting and
well-preserved bracteate (uniface) coin from a very historically significant
chapter of Dark Ages history. This one is sort of right on the borderline
between "especially scarce" and "outright rare." However you label it, it's not
likely you'll ever see another, especially in this good condition. My starting
price is a bit less than I paid for it.

This coin is getting some attention, but not nearly as much as it deserves, and
no bids yet. I hope you'll take a look at this one, as well as the other items
I'll be posting in the next few days.

#4384 From: Robert Kokotailo <robert@...>
Date: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:57 am
Subject: $$ Toronto coin show this weekend
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This Saturday and Sunday (October 17 and 18, 2009) the TOREX coin
show will be held at Toronto, Ontario.

The location will be the same as the last show :

Hilton Toronto Airport

just across from the Airport at highway 427 and highway 401.

Saturdays: 10:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sundays: 10:00 a.m. - 3:00 p.m.
Daily Admission $6.00, Children 16 and under Free!

Calgary Coin will have our usual table.  We have our largest ever
inventory of ancient and medieval coins at this show, including many
not yet listed in our vcoins store.

More information about how to get to this location including by
public transport, or how to save on parking if you drive, can be
found on the Torex website at :

http://www.torex.net/torex_coin_show/hotels.htm



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#4383 From: "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...>
Date: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:39 am
Subject: Re: Fecamp
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Thank you for the tip. I tried it and there is no copy available at this time.

Alan

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> Did you tried with www. maremagnum.com?
> M.T.B.
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#4382 From: Enne Erre <ennerre1@...>
Date: Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:37 pm
Subject: Fecamp
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Did you tried with www. maremagnum.com?
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#4381 From: NIGEL NICHOLSON <nigel.nicholson2002@...>
Date: Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:22 am
Subject: Re: Help with a German coin please.
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Hi Jørgen,

Unfortunately we don't know the weight, Sorry.

Regards
Nigel




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From: Jørgen Sømod <numis@...>
To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 11 October, 2009 22:46:10
Subject: Re: [medieval_coins] Help with a German coin please.


You forgot to tell the weight.

Jørgen Sømod
Hollændervej 20
DK 1855 Frederiksberg C
Danmark
Telefon X 45 - 33212484
Mailto:numis@... .dk
http://www.cam. org/~anfc/ p_somod.htm
http://www.gladsaxe gymnasium. dk/2/litts. htm
----- Original Message -----
From: NIGEL
To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:27 PM
Subject: [medieval_coins] Help with a German coin please.

Dear all,

We have a silver, 30mm German coin that needs an identification. So if any one
can assist and give a refference I would be very greatful.
We know its, Ferdinand II of Emdem, but can't find the denomination. I've looked
through Kraus but am unable to find it.
I've uploaded an image in my file called 'Nigel's'

Obverse, FERD II D G ROM IMP SEM AVG
Reverse, MON NO CIV EMBDE

Regards
Nigel

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#4380 From: Jørgen Sømod <numis@...>
Date: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:46 pm
Subject: Re: Help with a German coin please.
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You forgot to tell the weight.

Jørgen Sømod
Hollændervej 20
DK 1855 Frederiksberg C
Danmark
Telefon X 45 - 33212484
Mailto:numis@...
http://www.cam.org/~anfc/p_somod.htm
http://www.gladsaxegymnasium.dk/2/litts.htm
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: NIGEL
   To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:27 PM
   Subject: [medieval_coins] Help with a German coin please.


     Dear all,

   We have a silver, 30mm German coin that needs an identification. So if any one
can assist and give a refference I would be very greatful.
   We know its, Ferdinand II of Emdem, but can't find the denomination. I've
looked through Kraus but am unable to find it.
   I've uploaded an image in my file called 'Nigel's'

   Obverse, FERD II D G ROM IMP SEM AVG
   Reverse, MON NO CIV EMBDE

   Regards
   Nigel





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#4379 From: "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...>
Date: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:34 pm
Subject: Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
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Tony,
Here is a link to the Kluge book if you wish to look at what little is described
of it:

http://tinyurl.com/l8o675

Alan



--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@...> wrote:
>
> Alan,
>  
> True, Marc Bompaire has been working on Grierson's collection for the France
volume of MEC. But Grierson wasn't very interested in post-Carolingian French
and certainly didn't go into buying detailed varieties. Somewhere I have a
partial set of photos of his French that more or less came out of a rubbish bin
in London! Not the pictures that will be used now.
>  
> The Kluge I do not know and neither amazon.com nor .co.uk shows any book by
Bernd Kluge! I can ask someone with wider interests than mine, if I can identify
the book.
>  
> Andy Singer may comment on this thread when he catches up with his e-mails!
>  
> Tony
>
>
> --- On Sun, 11/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...>
> Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 9:57 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Thank you Tony, You have already been a great help. I will pursue the matter
along the lines you indicated. Supposedly, Bompaire is to produce a volume on
the "age of the Denier" in the MEC series. Is the Bernd Kluge volume on medieval
coins useful? Amazon has a German edition available.
>
> Alan
>
> --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > I've not located a copy for sale but have not completely exhausted possible
sources. No longer on CGB.FR lists. The BnF publications I did find with
difficulty under editions but search said no result.
> >  
> > For bibliography on Normandy deniers, the bibliography for French provincial
(feudal) was updated from 1936 (Manuel t IV) in the Bompaire-Dumas manuel on
medieval numismatics. (This no longer appears on cgb booklist either). The
website of the SFN now has info on the contents of Rev Num and BSFN. The
periodic Surveys of Numismatic Research published in conjunction with the
International Numismatic Congress each contain a section on France. The
footnotes and references in any of the published papers will lead you to further
works. On Normandy specifically, watch out for authors Dumas, Moesgaard,
Woodhead, (and I think Andy Singer).
> >  
> > Sorry I have not time to do the listings for you.
> >  
> > And p.s., despite protestations to the contrary, it is now clear to me
beyond any doubt
> > that the BN did not get the whole of the Fecamp Hoard. I had long suspected
it but have recently received reliable confirmation. Significant numbers of
coins were dispersed and have been trickled on to the market ever since, proof
enough in itself.
> >  
> > Tony
> >
> > --- On Sun, 11/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...>
> > Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 5:58 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It was published in 1971, so I would be surprised if it is still in print.
Galata had one, already sold, on their website, and Paul checked all of his
usual sources but couldn't locate one. I logged onto the BN site but couldn't
find the link to the bookstore.
> >
> > I would be interested in knowing what subsequent research has been done on
the Normandy deniers as I have submitted an article on some of them to The
Celator for future publication.
> >
> > Alan S.
> >
> > --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@ ...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Though it may be out of print, I rather doubt that.
> > > Check with CGB dealers in Paris; the Bibliotheque Nationale bookshop;
Spink in London; Galata (the Withers) in UK. I assume you have already checked
abebooks, amazon and the other online secondhand booksellers websites. 
> > > It is quite a heavy book.  
> > >  
> > > Research has not stood still since, e.g on Normandy deniers or the
identification of the reading Emma Regina.
> > >  
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 10/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...>
> > > Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> > > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Saturday, 10 October, 2009, 2:56 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Marc,
> > > I have the Depeyrot volume on Carolingian coins where he gives a breakdown
of the hoard contents. However the original publication has 30 plates of the
coins and detailed information on individual coins.
> > > I really need the Dumas publication to fulfill my needs.
> > >
> > > Alan S.
> > >
> > > --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, <van.de.leest. m@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All I could find is this article by Depeyrot, mentioning Dumas :
> > > > http://home. eckerd.edu/ ~oberhot/ printfecamp. htm
> > > > marc from Antwerp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: alandeshazo
> > > > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:34 AM
> > > > Subject: [medieval_coins] Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Group, I need the Fecamp hoard publication by F. Dumas for
research. If any of you know of one for sale I would greatly appreciate the
information.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Alan S.
> > > >
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#4378 From: "NIGEL" <nigel.nicholson2002@...>
Date: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:27 pm
Subject: Help with a German coin please.
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Dear all,

We have a silver, 30mm German coin that needs an identification. So if any one
can assist and give a refference I would be very greatful.
We know its, Ferdinand II of Emdem, but can't find the denomination. I've looked
through Kraus but am unable to find it.
I've uploaded an image in my file called 'Nigel's'

Obverse, FERD II D G ROM IMP SEM AVG
Reverse, MON NO CIV EMBDE

Regards
Nigel

#4377 From: Tony Merson <mersonrafca@...>
Date: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
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Alan,
 
True, Marc Bompaire has been working on Grierson's collection for the France
volume of MEC. But Grierson wasn't very interested in post-Carolingian French
and certainly didn't go into buying detailed varieties. Somewhere I have a
partial set of photos of his French that more or less came out of a rubbish bin
in London! Not the pictures that will be used now.
 
The Kluge I do not know and neither amazon.com nor .co.uk shows any book by
Bernd Kluge! I can ask someone with wider interests than mine, if I can identify
the book.
 
Andy Singer may comment on this thread when he catches up with his e-mails!
 
Tony


--- On Sun, 11/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...> wrote:


From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...>
Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 9:57 PM


 



Thank you Tony, You have already been a great help. I will pursue the matter
along the lines you indicated. Supposedly, Bompaire is to produce a volume on
the "age of the Denier" in the MEC series. Is the Bernd Kluge volume on medieval
coins useful? Amazon has a German edition available.

Alan

--- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@ ...> wrote:
>
> I've not located a copy for sale but have not completely exhausted possible
sources. No longer on CGB.FR lists. The BnF publications I did find with
difficulty under editions but search said no result.
>  
> For bibliography on Normandy deniers, the bibliography for French provincial
(feudal) was updated from 1936 (Manuel t IV) in the Bompaire-Dumas manuel on
medieval numismatics. (This no longer appears on cgb booklist either). The
website of the SFN now has info on the contents of Rev Num and BSFN. The
periodic Surveys of Numismatic Research published in conjunction with the
International Numismatic Congress each contain a section on France. The
footnotes and references in any of the published papers will lead you to further
works. On Normandy specifically, watch out for authors Dumas, Moesgaard,
Woodhead, (and I think Andy Singer).
>  
> Sorry I have not time to do the listings for you.
>  
> And p.s., despite protestations to the contrary, it is now clear to me beyond
any doubt
> that the BN did not get the whole of the Fecamp Hoard. I had long suspected it
but have recently received reliable confirmation. Significant numbers of coins
were dispersed and have been trickled on to the market ever since, proof enough
in itself.
>  
> Tony
>
> --- On Sun, 11/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...>
> Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 5:58 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> It was published in 1971, so I would be surprised if it is still in print.
Galata had one, already sold, on their website, and Paul checked all of his
usual sources but couldn't locate one. I logged onto the BN site but couldn't
find the link to the bookstore.
>
> I would be interested in knowing what subsequent research has been done on the
Normandy deniers as I have submitted an article on some of them to The Celator
for future publication.
>
> Alan S.
>
> --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Though it may be out of print, I rather doubt that.
> > Check with CGB dealers in Paris; the Bibliotheque Nationale bookshop; Spink
in London; Galata (the Withers) in UK. I assume you have already checked
abebooks, amazon and the other online secondhand booksellers websites. 
> > It is quite a heavy book.  
> >  
> > Research has not stood still since, e.g on Normandy deniers or the
identification of the reading Emma Regina.
> >  
> > Tony
> >
> > --- On Sat, 10/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...>
> > Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Saturday, 10 October, 2009, 2:56 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Marc,
> > I have the Depeyrot volume on Carolingian coins where he gives a breakdown
of the hoard contents. However the original publication has 30 plates of the
coins and detailed information on individual coins.
> > I really need the Dumas publication to fulfill my needs.
> >
> > Alan S.
> >
> > --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, <van.de.leest. m@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > All I could find is this article by Depeyrot, mentioning Dumas :
> > > http://home. eckerd.edu/ ~oberhot/ printfecamp. htm
> > > marc from Antwerp
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: alandeshazo
> > > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:34 AM
> > > Subject: [medieval_coins] Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Group, I need the Fecamp hoard publication by F. Dumas for research.
If any of you know of one for sale I would greatly appreciate the information.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alan S.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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#4376 From: "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...>
Date: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:57 pm
Subject: Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
alandeshazo
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Thank you Tony, You have already been a great help. I will pursue the matter
along the lines you indicated. Supposedly, Bompaire is to produce a volume on
the "age of the Denier" in the MEC series. Is the Bernd Kluge volume on medieval
coins useful? Amazon has a German edition available.

Alan



--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@...> wrote:
>
> I've not located a copy for sale but have not completely exhausted possible
sources. No longer on CGB.FR lists. The BnF publications I did find with
difficulty under editions but search said no result.
>  
> For bibliography on Normandy deniers, the bibliography for French provincial
(feudal) was updated from 1936 (Manuel t IV) in the Bompaire-Dumas manuel on
medieval numismatics. (This no longer appears on cgb booklist either). The
website of the SFN now has info on the contents of Rev Num and BSFN. The
periodic Surveys of Numismatic Research published in conjunction with the
International Numismatic Congress each contain a section on France. The
footnotes and references in any of the published papers will lead you to further
works. On Normandy specifically, watch out for authors Dumas, Moesgaard,
Woodhead, (and I think Andy Singer).
>  
> Sorry I have not time to do the listings for you.
>  
> And p.s., despite protestations to the contrary, it is now clear to me beyond
any doubt
> that the BN did not get the whole of the Fecamp Hoard. I had long suspected it
but have recently received reliable confirmation. Significant numbers of coins
were dispersed and have been trickled on to the market ever since, proof enough
in itself.
>  
> Tony
>
> --- On Sun, 11/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...>
> Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 5:58 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> It was published in 1971, so I would be surprised if it is still in print.
Galata had one, already sold, on their website, and Paul checked all of his
usual sources but couldn't locate one. I logged onto the BN site but couldn't
find the link to the bookstore.
>
> I would be interested in knowing what subsequent research has been done on the
Normandy deniers as I have submitted an article on some of them to The Celator
for future publication.
>
> Alan S.
>
> --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Though it may be out of print, I rather doubt that.
> > Check with CGB dealers in Paris; the Bibliotheque Nationale bookshop; Spink
in London; Galata (the Withers) in UK. I assume you have already checked
abebooks, amazon and the other online secondhand booksellers websites. 
> > It is quite a heavy book.  
> >  
> > Research has not stood still since, e.g on Normandy deniers or the
identification of the reading Emma Regina.
> >  
> > Tony
> >
> > --- On Sat, 10/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...>
> > Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Saturday, 10 October, 2009, 2:56 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Marc,
> > I have the Depeyrot volume on Carolingian coins where he gives a breakdown
of the hoard contents. However the original publication has 30 plates of the
coins and detailed information on individual coins.
> > I really need the Dumas publication to fulfill my needs.
> >
> > Alan S.
> >
> > --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, <van.de.leest. m@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > All I could find is this article by Depeyrot, mentioning Dumas :
> > > http://home. eckerd.edu/ ~oberhot/ printfecamp. htm
> > > marc from Antwerp
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: alandeshazo
> > > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:34 AM
> > > Subject: [medieval_coins] Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Group, I need the Fecamp hoard publication by F. Dumas for research.
If any of you know of one for sale I would greatly appreciate the information.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alan S.
> > >
> > >
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#4375 From: Tony Merson <mersonrafca@...>
Date: Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:33 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
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I've not located a copy for sale but have not completely exhausted possible
sources. No longer on CGB.FR lists. The BnF publications I did find with
difficulty under editions but search said no result.
 
For bibliography on Normandy deniers, the bibliography for French provincial
(feudal) was updated from 1936 (Manuel t IV) in the Bompaire-Dumas manuel on
medieval numismatics. (This no longer appears on cgb booklist either). The
website of the SFN now has info on the contents of Rev Num and BSFN. The
periodic Surveys of Numismatic Research published in conjunction with the
International Numismatic Congress each contain a section on France. The
footnotes and references in any of the published papers will lead you to further
works. On Normandy specifically, watch out for authors Dumas, Moesgaard,
Woodhead, (and I think Andy Singer).
 
Sorry I have not time to do the listings for you.
 
And p.s., despite protestations to the contrary, it is now clear to me beyond
any doubt
that the BN did not get the whole of the Fecamp Hoard. I had long suspected it
but have recently received reliable confirmation. Significant numbers of coins
were dispersed and have been trickled on to the market ever since, proof enough
in itself.
 
Tony

--- On Sun, 11/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...> wrote:


From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...>
Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 5:58 PM


 





It was published in 1971, so I would be surprised if it is still in print.
Galata had one, already sold, on their website, and Paul checked all of his
usual sources but couldn't locate one. I logged onto the BN site but couldn't
find the link to the bookstore.

I would be interested in knowing what subsequent research has been done on the
Normandy deniers as I have submitted an article on some of them to The Celator
for future publication.

Alan S.

--- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@ ...> wrote:
>
> Though it may be out of print, I rather doubt that.
> Check with CGB dealers in Paris; the Bibliotheque Nationale bookshop; Spink in
London; Galata (the Withers) in UK. I assume you have already checked abebooks,
amazon and the other online secondhand booksellers websites. 
> It is quite a heavy book.  
>  
> Research has not stood still since, e.g on Normandy deniers or the
identification of the reading Emma Regina.
>  
> Tony
>
> --- On Sat, 10/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...>
> Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Saturday, 10 October, 2009, 2:56 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Marc,
> I have the Depeyrot volume on Carolingian coins where he gives a breakdown of
the hoard contents. However the original publication has 30 plates of the coins
and detailed information on individual coins.
> I really need the Dumas publication to fulfill my needs.
>
> Alan S.
>
> --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, <van.de.leest. m@...> wrote:
> >
> > All I could find is this article by Depeyrot, mentioning Dumas :
> > http://home. eckerd.edu/ ~oberhot/ printfecamp. htm
> > marc from Antwerp
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: alandeshazo
> > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:34 AM
> > Subject: [medieval_coins] Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> >
> >
> > Dear Group, I need the Fecamp hoard publication by F. Dumas for research. If
any of you know of one for sale I would greatly appreciate the information.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alan S.
> >
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#4374 From: "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...>
Date: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
alandeshazo
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It was published in 1971, so I would be surprised if it is still in print.
Galata had one, already sold, on their website, and Paul checked all of his
usual sources but couldn't locate one. I logged onto the BN site but couldn't
find the link to the bookstore.

I would be interested in knowing what subsequent research has been done on the
Normandy deniers as I have submitted an article on some of them to The Celator
for future publication.

Alan S.



--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@...> wrote:
>
> Though it may be out of print, I rather doubt that.
> Check with CGB dealers in Paris; the Bibliotheque Nationale bookshop; Spink in
London; Galata (the Withers) in UK. I assume you have already checked abebooks,
amazon and the other online secondhand booksellers websites. 
> It is quite a heavy book.  
>  
> Research has not stood still since, e.g on Normandy deniers or the
identification of the reading Emma Regina.
>  
> Tony
>
> --- On Sat, 10/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...>
> Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 10 October, 2009, 2:56 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Marc,
> I have the Depeyrot volume on Carolingian coins where he gives a breakdown of
the hoard contents. However the original publication has 30 plates of the coins
and detailed information on individual coins.
> I really need the Dumas publication to fulfill my needs.
>
> Alan S.
>
> --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, <van.de.leest. m@...> wrote:
> >
> > All I could find is this article by Depeyrot, mentioning Dumas :
> > http://home. eckerd.edu/ ~oberhot/ printfecamp. htm
> > marc from Antwerp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: alandeshazo
> > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:34 AM
> > Subject: [medieval_coins] Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> >
> >
> > Dear Group, I need the Fecamp hoard publication by F. Dumas for research. If
any of you know of one for sale I would greatly appreciate the information.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alan S.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
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> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2426 - Release Date: 10/09/09
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#4373 From: Tony Merson <mersonrafca@...>
Date: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:15 am
Subject: Re: Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
mersonrafca
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Though it may be out of print, I rather doubt that.
Check with CGB dealers in Paris; the Bibliotheque Nationale bookshop; Spink in
London; Galata (the Withers) in UK. I assume you have already checked abebooks,
amazon and the other online secondhand booksellers websites. 
It is quite a heavy book.  
 
Research has not stood still since, e.g on Normandy deniers or the
identification of the reading Emma Regina.
 
Tony

--- On Sat, 10/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...> wrote:


From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...>
Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 10 October, 2009, 2:56 PM


 





Thanks Marc,
I have the Depeyrot volume on Carolingian coins where he gives a breakdown of
the hoard contents. However the original publication has 30 plates of the coins
and detailed information on individual coins.
I really need the Dumas publication to fulfill my needs.

Alan S.

--- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, <van.de.leest. m@...> wrote:
>
> All I could find is this article by Depeyrot, mentioning Dumas :
> http://home. eckerd.edu/ ~oberhot/ printfecamp. htm
> marc from Antwerp
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: alandeshazo
> To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:34 AM
> Subject: [medieval_coins] Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
>
>
> Dear Group, I need the Fecamp hoard publication by F. Dumas for research. If
any of you know of one for sale I would greatly appreciate the information.
>
> Thanks,
> Alan S.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
>
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2426 - Release Date: 10/09/09
18:43:00
>
>
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