Hi Andy
Its a while since I posted here – and I was pleased to see Steve's mildly
provocative post of 12th December was received in the constructive manner that
he surely intended it.
you write:
<<There doesn't seem to be a message counter as there is on the Everycountry
site, but it's my impression that we are often in single digits monthly with
many of those offering some kind of junk for sale>>
Yes – across all the coin groups I am signed into there seems to me to have been
a very marked drop in volume, and general standard of mails coming in, for many
months now.
I do not contribute to groups which have an open archive policy – in part
because I do not like to see google taking my comments out of context and
plastering them all over the internet. I mentioned this before (under a
previous moderator I suspect), but if there is now a will here to follow the
lead of ICG etc, and close to archive of MCG (making it members only), I would
be pleased to take part again.
best wishes to all
Robert Tye
http://earlyworldcoins.com
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--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Singer" <andysinger@...> wrote:
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> Dear Steve,
>
> I am another who doesn't receive the Celator, but this isn't exceptional for
medievalists. I did view the article briefly in a friend's copy, however, and
would request an ecopy from you so that I can actually study it and send in a
few comments.
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> I am also glad to see that the Medievalcoins message traffic has picked up a
bit. There doesn't seem to be a message counter as there is on the Everycountry
site, but it's my impression that we are often in single digits monthly, with
many of those offering some kind of junk for sale.
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> Best wishes,
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> Andy
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To publish in an European numismatic journal is a very good idea.
I can arrange this in the next issue of the Bulletin du Cercle d'Etudes
Numismatiques (Brussels).
They are collecting the papers right now for the December issue. I think that
there is no problem to publish in English.
If you are ok, just send me a mail to my own email, I will call at night (in few
hours here) to see what can be done.
Best
Georges
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Hi David,
Please send your email address to:
alandeshazo@...
I will send the page later this evening. Thanks for your interest.
Regards,
Alan
--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "crusadercoins" <amelialevy@...> wrote:
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> Dear Mr. DeShazo,
> If not too trouble for you, I'd like to receive a copy via word or PDF.
> Thanks,
> David.
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> --- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@> wrote:
> >
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> > Dear Andy,
> > I'm very glad to hear from you. I've been wondering how to open a
> > working relationship with you to help build my collection. I'm not able to
attend shows because of a fairly rigid obligation to my employer. I will send an
ecopy to your business email address. IF
> > you are unable to open the Word doc. just let me know and I can arrange a
jpeg. It is rather brief and to the point and is complete on one page. I'm
pleased that you remembered that I used to go by
> > Steve, the short form of my middle name Stephen.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Steve
> >
> > --- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Singer" <andysinger@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Steve,
> > >
> > > I am another who doesn't receive the Celator, but this isn't exceptional
for medievalists. I did view the article briefly in a friend's copy, however,
and would request an ecopy from you so that I can actually study it and send in
a few comments.
> > >
> > > I am also glad to see that the Medievalcoins message traffic has picked up
a bit. There doesn't seem to be a message counter as there is on the
Everycountry site, but it's my impression that we are often in single digits
monthly, with many of those offering some kind of junk for sale.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
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Dear Mr. DeShazo,
If not too trouble for you, I'd like to receive a copy via word or PDF.
Thanks,
David.
--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...> wrote:
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> Dear Andy,
> I'm very glad to hear from you. I've been wondering how to open a
> working relationship with you to help build my collection. I'm not able to
attend shows because of a fairly rigid obligation to my employer. I will send an
ecopy to your business email address. IF
> you are unable to open the Word doc. just let me know and I can arrange a
jpeg. It is rather brief and to the point and is complete on one page. I'm
pleased that you remembered that I used to go by
> Steve, the short form of my middle name Stephen.
>
> Best regards,
> Steve
>
> --- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Singer" <andysinger@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Steve,
> >
> > I am another who doesn't receive the Celator, but this isn't exceptional for
medievalists. I did view the article briefly in a friend's copy, however, and
would request an ecopy from you so that I can actually study it and send in a
few comments.
> >
> > I am also glad to see that the Medievalcoins message traffic has picked up a
bit. There doesn't seem to be a message counter as there is on the Everycountry
site, but it's my impression that we are often in single digits monthly, with
many of those offering some kind of junk for sale.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
Dear Andy,
I'm very glad to hear from you. I've been wondering how to open a
working relationship with you to help build my collection. I'm not able to
attend shows because of a fairly rigid obligation to my employer. I will send an
ecopy to your business email address. IF
you are unable to open the Word doc. just let me know and I can arrange a jpeg.
It is rather brief and to the point and is complete on one page. I'm pleased
that you remembered that I used to go by
Steve, the short form of my middle name Stephen.
Best regards,
Steve
--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Singer" <andysinger@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Steve,
>
> I am another who doesn't receive the Celator, but this isn't exceptional for
medievalists. I did view the article briefly in a friend's copy, however, and
would request an ecopy from you so that I can actually study it and send in a
few comments.
>
> I am also glad to see that the Medievalcoins message traffic has picked up a
bit. There doesn't seem to be a message counter as there is on the Everycountry
site, but it's my impression that we are often in single digits monthly, with
many of those offering some kind of junk for sale.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Andy
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Dear Steve,
I am another who doesn't receive the Celator, but this isn't exceptional for
medievalists. I did view the article briefly in a friend's copy, however, and
would request an ecopy from you so that I can actually study it and send in a
few comments.
I am also glad to see that the Medievalcoins message traffic has picked up a
bit. There doesn't seem to be a message counter as there is on the Everycountry
site, but it's my impression that we are often in single digits monthly, with
many of those offering some kind of junk for sale.
Best wishes,
Andy
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Hi David,
Yes, Georges wrote that it is "a very important paper". It has not yet been
adopted by coin dealers, but many of them may not have seen it or prefer to stay
with the old attribution until they see further evidence. I have submitted a
follow-up article that will be in either the January or February Celator. This
second article includes information that I didn't have prior to the submission
of the original article.
Regards,
Alan
--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, David Mee <david_h_mee@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi Alan,
>
> My Celator arrives a bit later than for those who live in the USA.
> I read your article. Short and to the point, and a plausible deduction.
However, it is not my specialty and I am only, as the French say, "un amateur".
Did you get any comments from a scholar such as Depeyrot? These would be more
meaningful. He is a member of the Medieval Coin Group.
>
> Regards,
> David mee
>
> To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
> From: alandeshazo@...
> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:52:07 +0000
> Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
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> --- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@> wrote:
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> > The November 2009 issue of the Celator has an article that I wrote on the
deniers of Rouen formerly attributed to Archbishop Hughes. This article offers
evidence of a more likely attribution. A follow up article is planned for a
future issue of the Celator based on additional information gained since the
submission of the current article.
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Hi Alan,
My Celator arrives a bit later than for those who live in the USA.
I read your article. Short and to the point, and a plausible deduction. However,
it is not my specialty and I am only, as the French say, "un amateur". Did you
get any comments from a scholar such as Depeyrot? These would be more
meaningful. He is a member of the Medieval Coin Group.
Regards,
David mee
To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
From: alandeshazo@...
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:52:07 +0000
Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Deniers of Duke Richard and King Lothaire
So far no comments from this group on the article. Did no one read it?
Alan S.
--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...> wrote:
>
> The November 2009 issue of the Celator has an article that I wrote on the
deniers of Rouen formerly attributed to Archbishop Hughes. This article offers
evidence of a more likely attribution. A follow up article is planned for a
future issue of the Celator based on additional information gained since the
submission of the current article.
>
> Alan S. DeShazo
>
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A world FIRST in property search has arrived! Check out Domain Radar NOW!
http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/
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So far no comments from this group on the article. Did no one read it?
Alan S.
--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, "alandeshazo" <alandeshazo@...> wrote:
>
> The November 2009 issue of the Celator has an article that I wrote on the
deniers of Rouen formerly attributed to Archbishop Hughes. This article offers
evidence of a more likely attribution. A follow up article is planned for a
future issue of the Celator based on additional information gained since the
submission of the current article.
>
> Alan S. DeShazo
>
The November 2009 issue of the Celator has an article that I wrote on the
deniers of Rouen formerly attributed to Archbishop Hughes. This article offers
evidence of a more likely attribution. A follow up article is planned for a
future issue of the Celator based on additional information gained since the
submission of the current article.
Alan S. DeShazo
My Ebay seller profile is at:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpetronius_ii
For tonight, ending in less than four hours, I've relisted my bargain threepence
of Elizabeth I. By all rights, this medium-grade specimen should have sold first
time out, but for some reason it didn't. Despite extensive wear, this one is
well-preserved enough to be deeply evocative of its time and place. As before,
this coin is getting some attention, but no bids yet, so I do hope you'll take a
look at this one. I'd really HATE to see the hammer come down on this one a
second time without a sale.
This Saturday and Sunday (November 7th and 8th, 2009) the Edmonton
Numismatic Society will be hold their fall coin show at the Mayfield
Inn, 16615 - 109th Avenue Edmonton, Alberta The show will be open to
the public Saturday from 10 to 5 and Sunday from 10 to 4.
Calgary Coin will be in attendance with our entire inventory of
ancient, medieval and modern coins.
Please feel free to drop by for a visit if you are in the Edmonton area.
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My Ebay seller profile is at:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpetronius_ii
For Tuesday evening next week, I've listed a bargain threepence of Elizabeth I.
This is a medium-low grade specimen that, despite extensive wear, is
well-preserved enough to be deeply evocative of its time and place. This coin is
already getting some attention despite my not having advertised it until now,
but no bids yet, so I hope you'll take a look at this one.
Dear all,
The last numismatic books (<http://www.moneta.be>www.moneta.be) for 2009
are now available: Greek, Roman, Byzantine, modern coins and coinage,
hoards, etc.
In 2009 Moneta published 17 volumes, about 4500 pages of numismatics and
monetary history.
The two first volumes for 2010 are already in press and will be available
in January.
Best wishes
Georges Depeyrot
This Friday, Saturday and Sunday (October 30, 31 and November 1,
2009) the Nuphilex coin show will be held at the Holiday Inn
(Midtown), 420 Sherbrooke West, Montreal. The hours will be :
Friday : 11:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.
Saturday: 10:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.
Sunday: 10:00 a.m. - 3:00 p.m.
Calgary Coin will have our usual table, with a large inventory of
ancient, medieval and modern world coins.
We will have a fairly good selection of medieval coins with us,
including British, European, Crusader and Islamic.
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My Ebay seller profile is at:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpetronius_ii
After this month's coin show, I was away from Ebay for a few weeks, and am now
scrambling like crazy to get as many interesting coins and artifacts listed as I
can.
This ex-Harlan Berk AE of the Alchon Huns in Gandhara is a very interesting and
well-preserved bracteate (uniface) coin from a very historically significant
chapter of Dark Ages history. This one is sort of right on the borderline
between "especially scarce" and "outright rare." However you label it, it's not
likely you'll ever see another, especially in this good condition. My starting
price is a bit less than I paid for it.
This coin is getting some attention, but not nearly as much as it deserves, and
no bids yet. I hope you'll take a look at this one, as well as the other items
I'll be posting in the next few days.
This Saturday and Sunday (October 17 and 18, 2009) the TOREX coin
show will be held at Toronto, Ontario.
The location will be the same as the last show :
Hilton Toronto Airport
just across from the Airport at highway 427 and highway 401.
Saturdays: 10:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sundays: 10:00 a.m. - 3:00 p.m.
Daily Admission $6.00, Children 16 and under Free!
Calgary Coin will have our usual table. We have our largest ever
inventory of ancient and medieval coins at this show, including many
not yet listed in our vcoins store.
More information about how to get to this location including by
public transport, or how to save on parking if you drive, can be
found on the Torex website at :
http://www.torex.net/torex_coin_show/hotels.htm
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Thank you for the tip. I tried it and there is no copy available at this time.
Alan
--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, Enne Erre <ennerre1@...> wrote:
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Hi Jørgen,
Unfortunately we don't know the weight, Sorry.
Regards
Nigel
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From: Jørgen Sømod <numis@...>
To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 11 October, 2009 22:46:10
Subject: Re: [medieval_coins] Help with a German coin please.
You forgot to tell the weight.
Jørgen Sømod
Hollændervej 20
DK 1855 Frederiksberg C
Danmark
Telefon X 45 - 33212484
Mailto:numis@... .dk
http://www.cam. org/~anfc/ p_somod.htm
http://www.gladsaxe gymnasium. dk/2/litts. htm
----- Original Message -----
From: NIGEL
To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:27 PM
Subject: [medieval_coins] Help with a German coin please.
Dear all,
We have a silver, 30mm German coin that needs an identification. So if any one
can assist and give a refference I would be very greatful.
We know its, Ferdinand II of Emdem, but can't find the denomination. I've looked
through Kraus but am unable to find it.
I've uploaded an image in my file called 'Nigel's'
Obverse, FERD II D G ROM IMP SEM AVG
Reverse, MON NO CIV EMBDE
Regards
Nigel
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You forgot to tell the weight.
Jørgen Sømod
Hollændervej 20
DK 1855 Frederiksberg C
Danmark
Telefon X 45 - 33212484
Mailto:numis@...http://www.cam.org/~anfc/p_somod.htmhttp://www.gladsaxegymnasium.dk/2/litts.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: NIGEL
To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:27 PM
Subject: [medieval_coins] Help with a German coin please.
Dear all,
We have a silver, 30mm German coin that needs an identification. So if any one
can assist and give a refference I would be very greatful.
We know its, Ferdinand II of Emdem, but can't find the denomination. I've
looked through Kraus but am unable to find it.
I've uploaded an image in my file called 'Nigel's'
Obverse, FERD II D G ROM IMP SEM AVG
Reverse, MON NO CIV EMBDE
Regards
Nigel
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Tony,
Here is a link to the Kluge book if you wish to look at what little is described
of it:
http://tinyurl.com/l8o675
Alan
--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@...> wrote:
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> Alan,
>
> True, Marc Bompaire has been working on Grierson's collection for the France
volume of MEC. But Grierson wasn't very interested in post-Carolingian French
and certainly didn't go into buying detailed varieties. Somewhere I have a
partial set of photos of his French that more or less came out of a rubbish bin
in London! Not the pictures that will be used now.
>
> The Kluge I do not know and neither amazon.com nor .co.uk shows any book by
Bernd Kluge! I can ask someone with wider interests than mine, if I can identify
the book.
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> Andy Singer may comment on this thread when he catches up with his e-mails!
>
> Tony
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> --- On Sun, 11/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...> wrote:
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> From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...>
> Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 9:57 PM
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> Thank you Tony, You have already been a great help. I will pursue the matter
along the lines you indicated. Supposedly, Bompaire is to produce a volume on
the "age of the Denier" in the MEC series. Is the Bernd Kluge volume on medieval
coins useful? Amazon has a German edition available.
>
> Alan
>
> --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > I've not located a copy for sale but have not completely exhausted possible
sources. No longer on CGB.FR lists. The BnF publications I did find with
difficulty under editions but search said no result.
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> > For bibliography on Normandy deniers, the bibliography for French provincial
(feudal) was updated from 1936 (Manuel t IV) in the Bompaire-Dumas manuel on
medieval numismatics. (This no longer appears on cgb booklist either). The
website of the SFN now has info on the contents of Rev Num and BSFN. The
periodic Surveys of Numismatic Research published in conjunction with the
International Numismatic Congress each contain a section on France. The
footnotes and references in any of the published papers will lead you to further
works. On Normandy specifically, watch out for authors Dumas, Moesgaard,
Woodhead, (and I think Andy Singer).
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> > Sorry I have not time to do the listings for you.
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> > And p.s., despite protestations to the contrary, it is now clear to me
beyond any doubt
> > that the BN did not get the whole of the Fecamp Hoard. I had long suspected
it but have recently received reliable confirmation. Significant numbers of
coins were dispersed and have been trickled on to the market ever since, proof
enough in itself.
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> > Tony
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> > --- On Sun, 11/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...> wrote:
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> > From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...>
> > Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 5:58 PM
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> > It was published in 1971, so I would be surprised if it is still in print.
Galata had one, already sold, on their website, and Paul checked all of his
usual sources but couldn't locate one. I logged onto the BN site but couldn't
find the link to the bookstore.
> >
> > I would be interested in knowing what subsequent research has been done on
the Normandy deniers as I have submitted an article on some of them to The
Celator for future publication.
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> > Alan S.
> >
> > --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@ ...>
wrote:
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> > > Though it may be out of print, I rather doubt that.
> > > Check with CGB dealers in Paris; the Bibliotheque Nationale bookshop;
Spink in London; Galata (the Withers) in UK. I assume you have already checked
abebooks, amazon and the other online secondhand booksellers websites.
> > > It is quite a heavy book.
> > >
> > > Research has not stood still since, e.g on Normandy deniers or the
identification of the reading Emma Regina.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 10/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...>
> > > Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> > > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Saturday, 10 October, 2009, 2:56 PM
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> > > Thanks Marc,
> > > I have the Depeyrot volume on Carolingian coins where he gives a breakdown
of the hoard contents. However the original publication has 30 plates of the
coins and detailed information on individual coins.
> > > I really need the Dumas publication to fulfill my needs.
> > >
> > > Alan S.
> > >
> > > --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, <van.de.leest. m@...> wrote:
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> > > > All I could find is this article by Depeyrot, mentioning Dumas :
> > > > http://home. eckerd.edu/ ~oberhot/ printfecamp. htm
> > > > marc from Antwerp
> > > >
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> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: alandeshazo
> > > > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:34 AM
> > > > Subject: [medieval_coins] Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Group, I need the Fecamp hoard publication by F. Dumas for
research. If any of you know of one for sale I would greatly appreciate the
information.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Alan S.
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Dear all,
We have a silver, 30mm German coin that needs an identification. So if any one
can assist and give a refference I would be very greatful.
We know its, Ferdinand II of Emdem, but can't find the denomination. I've looked
through Kraus but am unable to find it.
I've uploaded an image in my file called 'Nigel's'
Obverse, FERD II D G ROM IMP SEM AVG
Reverse, MON NO CIV EMBDE
Regards
Nigel
Alan,
True, Marc Bompaire has been working on Grierson's collection for the France
volume of MEC. But Grierson wasn't very interested in post-Carolingian French
and certainly didn't go into buying detailed varieties. Somewhere I have a
partial set of photos of his French that more or less came out of a rubbish bin
in London! Not the pictures that will be used now.
The Kluge I do not know and neither amazon.com nor .co.uk shows any book by
Bernd Kluge! I can ask someone with wider interests than mine, if I can identify
the book.
Andy Singer may comment on this thread when he catches up with his e-mails!
Tony
--- On Sun, 11/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...> wrote:
From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...>
Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 9:57 PM
Thank you Tony, You have already been a great help. I will pursue the matter
along the lines you indicated. Supposedly, Bompaire is to produce a volume on
the "age of the Denier" in the MEC series. Is the Bernd Kluge volume on medieval
coins useful? Amazon has a German edition available.
Alan
--- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@ ...> wrote:
>
> I've not located a copy for sale but have not completely exhausted possible
sources. No longer on CGB.FR lists. The BnF publications I did find with
difficulty under editions but search said no result.
>
> For bibliography on Normandy deniers, the bibliography for French provincial
(feudal) was updated from 1936 (Manuel t IV) in the Bompaire-Dumas manuel on
medieval numismatics. (This no longer appears on cgb booklist either). The
website of the SFN now has info on the contents of Rev Num and BSFN. The
periodic Surveys of Numismatic Research published in conjunction with the
International Numismatic Congress each contain a section on France. The
footnotes and references in any of the published papers will lead you to further
works. On Normandy specifically, watch out for authors Dumas, Moesgaard,
Woodhead, (and I think Andy Singer).
>
> Sorry I have not time to do the listings for you.
>
> And p.s., despite protestations to the contrary, it is now clear to me beyond
any doubt
> that the BN did not get the whole of the Fecamp Hoard. I had long suspected it
but have recently received reliable confirmation. Significant numbers of coins
were dispersed and have been trickled on to the market ever since, proof enough
in itself.
>
> Tony
>
> --- On Sun, 11/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...>
> Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 5:58 PM
>
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>
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>
> It was published in 1971, so I would be surprised if it is still in print.
Galata had one, already sold, on their website, and Paul checked all of his
usual sources but couldn't locate one. I logged onto the BN site but couldn't
find the link to the bookstore.
>
> I would be interested in knowing what subsequent research has been done on the
Normandy deniers as I have submitted an article on some of them to The Celator
for future publication.
>
> Alan S.
>
> --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Though it may be out of print, I rather doubt that.
> > Check with CGB dealers in Paris; the Bibliotheque Nationale bookshop; Spink
in London; Galata (the Withers) in UK. I assume you have already checked
abebooks, amazon and the other online secondhand booksellers websites.
> > It is quite a heavy book.
> >
> > Research has not stood still since, e.g on Normandy deniers or the
identification of the reading Emma Regina.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > --- On Sat, 10/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...>
> > Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Saturday, 10 October, 2009, 2:56 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Marc,
> > I have the Depeyrot volume on Carolingian coins where he gives a breakdown
of the hoard contents. However the original publication has 30 plates of the
coins and detailed information on individual coins.
> > I really need the Dumas publication to fulfill my needs.
> >
> > Alan S.
> >
> > --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, <van.de.leest. m@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > All I could find is this article by Depeyrot, mentioning Dumas :
> > > http://home. eckerd.edu/ ~oberhot/ printfecamp. htm
> > > marc from Antwerp
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: alandeshazo
> > > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:34 AM
> > > Subject: [medieval_coins] Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Group, I need the Fecamp hoard publication by F. Dumas for research.
If any of you know of one for sale I would greatly appreciate the information.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alan S.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Thank you Tony, You have already been a great help. I will pursue the matter
along the lines you indicated. Supposedly, Bompaire is to produce a volume on
the "age of the Denier" in the MEC series. Is the Bernd Kluge volume on medieval
coins useful? Amazon has a German edition available.
Alan
--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@...> wrote:
>
> I've not located a copy for sale but have not completely exhausted possible
sources. No longer on CGB.FR lists. The BnF publications I did find with
difficulty under editions but search said no result.
>
> For bibliography on Normandy deniers, the bibliography for French provincial
(feudal) was updated from 1936 (Manuel t IV) in the Bompaire-Dumas manuel on
medieval numismatics. (This no longer appears on cgb booklist either). The
website of the SFN now has info on the contents of Rev Num and BSFN. The
periodic Surveys of Numismatic Research published in conjunction with the
International Numismatic Congress each contain a section on France. The
footnotes and references in any of the published papers will lead you to further
works. On Normandy specifically, watch out for authors Dumas, Moesgaard,
Woodhead, (and I think Andy Singer).
>
> Sorry I have not time to do the listings for you.
>
> And p.s., despite protestations to the contrary, it is now clear to me beyond
any doubt
> that the BN did not get the whole of the Fecamp Hoard. I had long suspected it
but have recently received reliable confirmation. Significant numbers of coins
were dispersed and have been trickled on to the market ever since, proof enough
in itself.
>
> Tony
>
> --- On Sun, 11/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...>
> Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 5:58 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It was published in 1971, so I would be surprised if it is still in print.
Galata had one, already sold, on their website, and Paul checked all of his
usual sources but couldn't locate one. I logged onto the BN site but couldn't
find the link to the bookstore.
>
> I would be interested in knowing what subsequent research has been done on the
Normandy deniers as I have submitted an article on some of them to The Celator
for future publication.
>
> Alan S.
>
> --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Though it may be out of print, I rather doubt that.
> > Check with CGB dealers in Paris; the Bibliotheque Nationale bookshop; Spink
in London; Galata (the Withers) in UK. I assume you have already checked
abebooks, amazon and the other online secondhand booksellers websites.
> > It is quite a heavy book.
> >
> > Research has not stood still since, e.g on Normandy deniers or the
identification of the reading Emma Regina.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > --- On Sat, 10/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...>
> > Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Saturday, 10 October, 2009, 2:56 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Marc,
> > I have the Depeyrot volume on Carolingian coins where he gives a breakdown
of the hoard contents. However the original publication has 30 plates of the
coins and detailed information on individual coins.
> > I really need the Dumas publication to fulfill my needs.
> >
> > Alan S.
> >
> > --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, <van.de.leest. m@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > All I could find is this article by Depeyrot, mentioning Dumas :
> > > http://home. eckerd.edu/ ~oberhot/ printfecamp. htm
> > > marc from Antwerp
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: alandeshazo
> > > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:34 AM
> > > Subject: [medieval_coins] Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Group, I need the Fecamp hoard publication by F. Dumas for research.
If any of you know of one for sale I would greatly appreciate the information.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alan S.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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18:43:00
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I've not located a copy for sale but have not completely exhausted possible
sources. No longer on CGB.FR lists. The BnF publications I did find with
difficulty under editions but search said no result.
For bibliography on Normandy deniers, the bibliography for French provincial
(feudal) was updated from 1936 (Manuel t IV) in the Bompaire-Dumas manuel on
medieval numismatics. (This no longer appears on cgb booklist either). The
website of the SFN now has info on the contents of Rev Num and BSFN. The
periodic Surveys of Numismatic Research published in conjunction with the
International Numismatic Congress each contain a section on France. The
footnotes and references in any of the published papers will lead you to further
works. On Normandy specifically, watch out for authors Dumas, Moesgaard,
Woodhead, (and I think Andy Singer).
Sorry I have not time to do the listings for you.
And p.s., despite protestations to the contrary, it is now clear to me beyond
any doubt
that the BN did not get the whole of the Fecamp Hoard. I had long suspected it
but have recently received reliable confirmation. Significant numbers of coins
were dispersed and have been trickled on to the market ever since, proof enough
in itself.
Tony
--- On Sun, 11/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...> wrote:
From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...>
Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 5:58 PM
It was published in 1971, so I would be surprised if it is still in print.
Galata had one, already sold, on their website, and Paul checked all of his
usual sources but couldn't locate one. I logged onto the BN site but couldn't
find the link to the bookstore.
I would be interested in knowing what subsequent research has been done on the
Normandy deniers as I have submitted an article on some of them to The Celator
for future publication.
Alan S.
--- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@ ...> wrote:
>
> Though it may be out of print, I rather doubt that.
> Check with CGB dealers in Paris; the Bibliotheque Nationale bookshop; Spink in
London; Galata (the Withers) in UK. I assume you have already checked abebooks,
amazon and the other online secondhand booksellers websites.
> It is quite a heavy book.
>
> Research has not stood still since, e.g on Normandy deniers or the
identification of the reading Emma Regina.
>
> Tony
>
> --- On Sat, 10/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@ ...>
> Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Saturday, 10 October, 2009, 2:56 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Marc,
> I have the Depeyrot volume on Carolingian coins where he gives a breakdown of
the hoard contents. However the original publication has 30 plates of the coins
and detailed information on individual coins.
> I really need the Dumas publication to fulfill my needs.
>
> Alan S.
>
> --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, <van.de.leest. m@...> wrote:
> >
> > All I could find is this article by Depeyrot, mentioning Dumas :
> > http://home. eckerd.edu/ ~oberhot/ printfecamp. htm
> > marc from Antwerp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: alandeshazo
> > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:34 AM
> > Subject: [medieval_coins] Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> >
> >
> > Dear Group, I need the Fecamp hoard publication by F. Dumas for research. If
any of you know of one for sale I would greatly appreciate the information.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alan S.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> >
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2426 - Release Date: 10/09/09
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It was published in 1971, so I would be surprised if it is still in print.
Galata had one, already sold, on their website, and Paul checked all of his
usual sources but couldn't locate one. I logged onto the BN site but couldn't
find the link to the bookstore.
I would be interested in knowing what subsequent research has been done on the
Normandy deniers as I have submitted an article on some of them to The Celator
for future publication.
Alan S.
--- In medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com, Tony Merson <mersonrafca@...> wrote:
>
> Though it may be out of print, I rather doubt that.
> Check with CGB dealers in Paris; the Bibliotheque Nationale bookshop; Spink in
London; Galata (the Withers) in UK. I assume you have already checked abebooks,
amazon and the other online secondhand booksellers websites.
> It is quite a heavy book.
>
> Research has not stood still since, e.g on Normandy deniers or the
identification of the reading Emma Regina.
>
> Tony
>
> --- On Sat, 10/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...>
> Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 10 October, 2009, 2:56 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Marc,
> I have the Depeyrot volume on Carolingian coins where he gives a breakdown of
the hoard contents. However the original publication has 30 plates of the coins
and detailed information on individual coins.
> I really need the Dumas publication to fulfill my needs.
>
> Alan S.
>
> --- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, <van.de.leest. m@...> wrote:
> >
> > All I could find is this article by Depeyrot, mentioning Dumas :
> > http://home. eckerd.edu/ ~oberhot/ printfecamp. htm
> > marc from Antwerp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: alandeshazo
> > To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:34 AM
> > Subject: [medieval_coins] Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
> >
> >
> > Dear Group, I need the Fecamp hoard publication by F. Dumas for research. If
any of you know of one for sale I would greatly appreciate the information.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alan S.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> >
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2426 - Release Date: 10/09/09
18:43:00
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Though it may be out of print, I rather doubt that.
Check with CGB dealers in Paris; the Bibliotheque Nationale bookshop; Spink in
London; Galata (the Withers) in UK. I assume you have already checked abebooks,
amazon and the other online secondhand booksellers websites.
It is quite a heavy book.
Research has not stood still since, e.g on Normandy deniers or the
identification of the reading Emma Regina.
Tony
--- On Sat, 10/10/09, alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...> wrote:
From: alandeshazo <alandeshazo@...>
Subject: [medieval_coins] Re: Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
To: medieval_coins@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 10 October, 2009, 2:56 PM
Thanks Marc,
I have the Depeyrot volume on Carolingian coins where he gives a breakdown of
the hoard contents. However the original publication has 30 plates of the coins
and detailed information on individual coins.
I really need the Dumas publication to fulfill my needs.
Alan S.
--- In medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com, <van.de.leest. m@...> wrote:
>
> All I could find is this article by Depeyrot, mentioning Dumas :
> http://home. eckerd.edu/ ~oberhot/ printfecamp. htm
> marc from Antwerp
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: alandeshazo
> To: medieval_coins@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:34 AM
> Subject: [medieval_coins] Wanted: Fecamp hoard report by Dumas
>
>
> Dear Group, I need the Fecamp hoard publication by F. Dumas for research. If
any of you know of one for sale I would greatly appreciate the information.
>
> Thanks,
> Alan S.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2426 - Release Date: 10/09/09
18:43:00
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