Thanks to Mark McCarty from Arkansas - there are now some new pictures
of Tillman and Sarah McCarty (and a daughter?) as well as his son James
McCarty.....

http://www.geocities.com/TWMcCarty/FamilyPix
--
Bruce Reeves - BruceReeves@...

Play like you don't need to work, Work like you don't need the money,
Dance like no one is watching, and Love like you won't get hurt.

Judy Reeves wrote:
>
> thought you might appreciate, and maybe even share, this....
>
>                    THE CENSUS
>
>  It was the first day of census, and all through the land;
>  The pollster was ready, a black book in hand.
>  He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride;
>  His book and some quills were tucked close by his side.
>  A long winding ride down a road barely there;
>  Toward the smell of fresh bread wafting, up through the air.
>  The woman was tired, with lines on her face;
>  And wisps of brown hair she tucked back into place.
>  She gave him some water, as they sat at the table;
>  And she answered his questions -- the best she was able.
>  He asked of her children. Yes, she had quite a few;
>  The oldest was twenty, the youngest not two.
>  She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red;
>  His sister, she whispered, was napping in bed.
>  She noted each person who lived there with pride;
>  And she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside.
>  He noted the sex, the color, the age.
>  The marks from the quill soon filled up the page.
>  At the number of children, she nodded her head;
>  And saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead.
>  The places of birth she "never forgot";
>  Was it Kansas? or Utah? or Oregon -- or not?
>  They came from Scotland, of that she was clear;
>  But she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here.
>  They spoke of employment, of schooling and such;
>  They could read some, and write some, though really not much.
>  When the questions were answered, his job there was done;
>  So he mounted his horse and he rode toward the sun.
>  We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear;
>  "May God bless you all for another ten years."
>  Now picture a time warp -- its' now you and me;
>  As we search for the people on our family tree.
>  We squint at the census and scroll down so slow;
>  As we search for that entry from long, long ago.
>  Could they only imagine on that long ago day;
>  That the entries they made would effect us this way?
>  If they knew, would they wonder at the yearning we feel;
>  And the searching that makes them so increasingly real.
>  We can hear if we listen the words they impart;
>  Through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart.
>
>  - Anonymous
> --
> Judy Reeves - Troop@...

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Play like you don't need to work, Work like you don't need the money,
Dance like no one is watching, and Love like you won't get hurt.

Thought ya'll might be interested in this....
--
Bruce Reeves - BruceReeves@...

Play like you don't need to work, Work like you don't need the money,
Dance like no one is watching, and Love like you won't get hurt.

From my Lovelace/less data  So Carolina deed records show that in 1818 William Loveless with wife Jemima Dawson sold property.  It is said that William later married Rebecca Dawson, Jemima's sister and had several of the younger children by her (James Jackson, Sarah Jane, Francis Safronia). My hunch is he probably married Rebecca Dawson before Martha Ann Rebecca was born in 1819.  In 1830 William is in Pulaski Co. GA which verifies Jane being born in GA.  He sells a piece of land there in 1831 which was witnessed by Benjamin D.  William next shows up in Barbour Co., AL where he stays till his death in 1854.

There is documented evidence that puts Garland, Benjamin, Everette, Mary, Susan Emaline, William Lafyette, James Jackson, and Francis Safronia in Barbour Co., AL at the same time as William.  Also if Sarah Jane married Till McCarty there, she was also there with William.  As to what happened to the other siblings, I don't know.  I didn't know anything of Sarah Jane's whereabouts till I heard from Freida Scarborough's query.

Freida stated that she got the bible info from the old family bible in the possession of Gertie Parks in June of 1981.  Did you get your copy from Freida.  Maybe I should ask do you know Freida Scarborough.  I would like to get in touch with the person who has the bible.  I would very much like to see the bible.  But -- until I can do that I would greatly appreciate it if you would send me a copy of the xerox copy that you have.  That would be great!

I will update my Loveless data base and send it to you shortly so that you will have all the info we have on Sarah Jane Loveless' family.  It has been data based back to 1300 England.  However, I have only participated in research back to her grandfather, Benjamin - William's father.

Garland died between 1843, when his last son was born, and 1847 when his wife married again.  I believe he had only three children, Martha, David Jefferson, Levi.  David J. is  my husband's great-grandfather.

I appreciate so much you sending me your web page info.  We do not have a page but really should consider one.

My address:    Merlene G. Lovelace
                       9642 Scenic Court
                       Semmes, AL  36575
                        334-649-1956

I hope I have not confused you to much or rambled on aimlessly.

Merlene

Okay, folks -
   To get us headed in the right direction for the family reunion in June
and to get everybody stirred up and ready to go to Monroe - what say we
start telling some of those good ole stories that we usually tell at the
reunion....
   1) It gets them down on hardcopy where we can start preserving them
better for future generations
   2) I can put them on the website for us to enjoy or refer to anytime
we want

I've put Sid Bondurant's version of the Tillman Civil War "Desertion" on
the web page (http://www.geocities/com/twmccarty)....  Of course, we've
ALL heard Dollie's version where "yes, he did desert, but everybody did
- it was time to plant the crops...."  This one may be a little closer
to reality - and it may not - but that's not the point is it? :)

Only 3 months and 8 days to go...
--
Bruce Reeves - BruceReeves@...
Supporting Bill Bradley for President...http://www.billbradley.com

Play like you don't need to work, Work like you don't need the money,
Dance like no one is watching, and Love like you won't get hurt.

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~acwomack/web/mccarty/ is a website
dedicated to the descendants of Edward McCarty - a brother to our Philip
(father of Tillman)
--
Bruce Reeves - BruceReeves@...
Supporting Bill Bradley for President...http://www.billbradley.com

Play like you don't need to work, Work like you don't need the money,
Dance like no one is watching, and Love like you won't get hurt.

I'm trying to input some of the updates to the Family Tree that were
made on the tree at last years reunion and need some more information.

Please help me whereever you can!

Raney Rachelle Manary (daughter? of James Manary and Rema Reed) - I need
date of birth

Morgan Bondurant (daughter?) and John Thomas Bondurant (children of
Sidney Bondurant and Aida Velerino) - I need birth dates

Molly Louise Calhoun (daughter of Joseph William Calhoun and Anna Louise
Webb) - I need birth date

Robert Bibb (husband of Judith Alice Johnson) - I need a birth date

Carey Parkes Bibb (child of above) - I need a birth date AND WHAT SEX.

Salvatore (Tory) P. Salvia (husband of Betty Sue Johnson) - I need a
birth date.

Was Amy Lee Graham (daughter of Sidney Lee Graham and Martha Ann Parkes)
born in 1966, 1968 or am I completely confused?
--
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Supporting Bill Bradley for President...http://www.billbradley.com

Play like you don't need to work, Work like you don't need the money,
Dance like no one is watching, and Love like you won't get hurt.

I got it!


----- Original Message -----
From: <gnj@...>
To: <wlansfo@...>; <mccartys@onelist.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 1:26 PM
Subject: [mccartys] (Fwd) (Fwd) Funeral arrangements


From: gnj@...


Dear Family Members,
  The funeral services for Uncle George have been set for
Monday,Feb. 14th 3p.m. at the Claybar Waller-Ramsey
Funeral Home,Crockett.409-544-2121.
I got this information from Brother Ramsey at the funeral home.
I have not yet talked with Glenda this morning.I will send additional
information as I get it.
I will try to keep a close check on the E-mails.Please let me know
when you receive this. Thank you.
Love,
Nita Anne
409-544-5483







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Dear Family Members,
  The funeral services for Uncle George have been set for
Monday,Feb. 14th 3p.m. at the Claybar Waller-Ramsey
Funeral Home,Crockett.409-544-2121.
I got this information from Brother Ramsey at the funeral home.
I have not yet talked with Glenda this morning.I will send additional
information as I get it.
I will try to keep a close check on the E-mails.Please let me know
when you receive this. Thank you.
Love,
Nita Anne
409-544-5483

Dear McCarty Cousins,
The following forwarded message is about my Uncle George
Lansford.The second son of Eula Kate McCarty Lansford.
Uncle George was in the hospital and had been very ill for more
than a week.
I am sending this to inform those of you that may remember him.
He never attended the McCarty Reunion,but was always there for
the Lansford  Reunion's.
Love,
Nita Reed
409-544-5483





------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
From:            gnj@...

Date sent:       Fri, 11 Feb 2000 23:14:14 -0600
Subject:         Uncle George

To All My Dear Cousins,
This is not a very personal way to send you a sad message. How
ever due to the time of night I have chosen this way.
Uncle George went to be with his Heavenly Father and many loved
ones tonight. He passed away at 9:45 P.M. At this time there are
no plans made. Glenda hopes to schedule the service for
Sunday,but that may not be possible.
I will send out another letter tomorrow when I learn of the details.
The family will meet at Papa's house in Porter Springs the day of
the service.
Glenda's phone # 409-655-2344.
Love You,
Nita Reed
409-544-5483

Reunion plans sound great!

I'm leaving for church. Will pray for Uncle George, Aunt Mary, and
Uncle John.

Love ya,
Jim

Sounds great, Nita!  Looking forward to seeing everybody again!

> I have set up the reunion in Monroe,La.for this year. I plan to send
> out letters very soon. I am awaiting more information in the mail.

--
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Supporting Bill Bradley for President...http://www.billbradley.com

Play like you don't need to work, Work like you don't need the money,
Dance like no one is watching, and Love like you won't get hurt.

McCarty Kin,
I have set up the reunion in Monroe,La.for this year. I plan to send
out letters very soon. I am awaiting more information in the mail.

Location: Holiday Inn Holidome        Date: June 9th (Friday) & 10th
               1051 By-Pass 165 at I-20
               Monroe,La.71203
               318-387-5100
               fax 318-329-9126
The Holiday Inn-Holidome provides not only an outdoor pool but a
large indoor pool as well. After a work-out in their professionally
equipped Exercise Room, relax in their Sauna or Whirlpool. Play a
game of ping-pong or pool. Challenge someone on the putting
green. Those of you that enjoy a Lounge they have the Bobbisox,
.where you can dance the night away.For dinner enjoy their French
Market Cafe for true Louisiana Fare.
These are just a few of the nice things they have to offer.
They will block off several rooms for us. Please don't forget to tell
them you are with the McCarty Reunion.Kings and Double rooms
$69.+ tax.
More information to follow later.
Hope to see you all there.
Nita Reed

Just wanted to wish every one a safe, sane and happy Carnival Season!

As most of you probably know, Carnival begins on January 6 each year
and is culminated by Mardi Gas (March 7 this year).

Laissez les bon temps roulez!



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Work like you don't need the money,
Dance like no one is watching,
Love like you won't get hurt.
__________________________________________________
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Thought you might enjoy this.
Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Gootee <gooteebob@...>
Newsgroups: alt.genealogy
Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 5:43 PM
Subject: Poem


>
> Kinsman by Wayne Hand, 1999
>
>    Alas, my elusive kinsman
>    You've led me quite a chase
>    I thought I'd found your courthouse
>    But the Yankees burned the place.
>
>    You always kept your bags packed
>    Although you had no fame, and
>    Just for the fun of it
>    Twice you changed your name.
>
>    You never owed any man, or
>    At least I found no bills.
>    In spite of eleven offspring
>    You never left a will.
>
>    They say our name's from Europe
>    Came state side on a ship.
>    Either they lost the passenger list
>    Or granddad gave them the slip.
>
>
>    They said you had a headstone
>    In a shady plot
>    I've been there twenty times, and
>    Can't even find the lot.
>
>    You never wrote a letter
>    Your Bible we can't find
>    It's probably in some attic
>    Out of sight and out of mind.
>
>    You first married a .....Smith
>    And just to set the tone
>    The other four were Sarah's
>    And everyone a Jones.
>
>    You cost me two fortunes
>    One of which I did not have
>    My wife, my house and Fido
>    God, how I miss that yellow lab.
>
>    But somewhere you slipped up,
>    Ole Boy, Somewhere you left a track
>    And if I don't find you this year
>    Well...... Next year I'll be back!
>
> --
> Bob
> Visit my information & link page at
> http://twilight.webbernet.net/~gooteebob/index_html.htm

For everyone's info & help.
Her ancestor is Andrew Vernon McCarty from China or China Lake, Texas. His
mother's surname was Vanzant
Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Reed
To: pgonzale@...
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 12:57 PM
Subject: McCarty


Patsy,
     Hi and welcome.
     Andrew Vernon McCarty sounds familiar and we have a Verna McCarty, daughter
of James.
     McCarty is a historic name in Van Zandt County, Texas near Tyler. I'm also
new to the research and haven't checked things out in Canton (county seat) yet.
I do know they have a historical society and that there's at least on book about
the early families.
     See http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/1339/ for info we have.

Here's more info:
     "Jim, did you know that the San Saba Historical Society are re-selling their
1983-84 "San Saba County History Book for $59+$5=$64.  And, they are asking
people like you and me to send in material for a new re-vised San Saba History
Book.
     Here is their address:
         San Saba Co. Historical Commission;  500 East Wallace, San Saba, Texas
76877.
         Email:  jerlyn@... (Jerry &Lynn Blankenship).
     Here are two new names and Email addresses:
         Allen Vinzant; allen@....  He lives in California.  He is just
great.  Two of his Vinzant ancestors married two McCarty brothers, Miles D.
McCarty and Joshua McCarty from Alabama and San Saba County. His brother, Vernon
Vinzant lives in Marshall, Texas:  Vee3@....  He may still be on vacation,
but he may be home.  He has not responded to my package.
     Good Luck,  Noma Joice" nlj@...

     Hope this helps. Let me know if I can help with anything here.

Sincerely,
Jim Reed

For everyone's info & help.
Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob and Anne Schmidt <robert.schmidt@...>
To: <jim_reed@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 10:21 PM
Subject: McCarty Family Research


> Hello, Jim.
>
> I am responding to your to your recent post to John McCarthy,VA dated Aug
8
> 1999.
>
> I believe Michael McCARTY II born 1754 in Edgefield to be my 5th great
> grandfather.  My information matches with regard to his birth and death.
>
> His son, William McCARTY born in 1787 in South Carolina,  married in
> Edgefield County, SC before 1818 to Mary Jane BROWN, the first of three
> wives.  William died in Jefferson Co., Alabama.
>
> I know that this family is very hard to trace due the larger size of the
> families and the lack of variety of names.
>
> I would like to confirm with you to make sure that I have the right
Michael
> McCARTY and which wife gave birth to William McCARTY.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob

This Uncle Had Spark

One aristocratic clan's ancestors had come to America on the Mayflower, and
their lineage included senators, captains of industry and Wall Street
wizards.

So proud were they of their family tradition that they decided to compile a
family history as a legacy for their children and grandchildren. They hired a
fine author. Only one problem arose -- how to handle that great-uncle who was
executed in the electric chair.

Not to worry, said the author. He could write that chapter of their history
tactfully, and indeed, he did. "Great-uncle George," he wrote, "occupied a
chair of applied electronics at an important government institution, was
attached to his position by the strongest of ties and his death came as a
real shock."

Jim--
I LOVE IT..absolutely everyone I know will have this in their box my
morning. It will probably be more circulated than a whore on main street.

Judy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Reed [SMTP:jim_reed@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 8:53 PM
To: Sue Bruner; Renee & Nick Elbaum; Nita & Glynn; Mike & Sandy; Marcus
Harkins; Kenneth Parrish; Kaye Woodward; Kathy & Al Ward; Karen & Mike
McLeod; Joyce & Jack Austin; Cory Gaines; Byron Baldwin; Ann Parrish;
Sherry Brock; Stan Brock
Cc: mccartys@onelist.com
Subject: [mccartys] Hmmmmm

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Thought I'd pass this on.

A genealogy is like a sex life.   Mine is fascinating, yours is a bore.
             Unless, of course, yours crosses mine.

I couldn't resist forwarding this.   Jim Reed

Sandi Mauer wrote:
     I'm curious to know how far back people generally go when researching their
family history.

Wayne Howell wrote:
     It's pretty tough to go past Adam and Eve............
     Sorry--I tried three times not to post this....but couldn't resist!

Swan wrote:
     I'm glad you couldn't resist. You bring up a common fallacy among
genealogists. The truth is, that going past Adam and Eve is not difficult IF you
know:
             1. WHICH rib was used to create Eve and
             2. WHERE the dust came from which formed Adam.
     If you have that information, you may be able to go back even farther.
     On my father's side, we have traced to the 8th intercostal space on the
right side of Adam's chest. This is now known to be the origin place of Eve.
From here, all records point to Adam's line.  As to the exact place where the
dust for Adam was taken, we believe that DNA readings present in all humans will
show that we all contain traces of cadmium, selenium and pigeon...waste...  as
well as traces of crabapple DNA and grapefruit.  Since the grapefruit tree in
Eden was on the Northeast side of the Garden, AND it was known to be inhabited
by numerous pigeons, I have a strong reason to believe that the dust of the
earth which was used to form Adam came from the Western side (closest to the
crabapple tree) of the grapefruit tree, very probably under the second to the
highest branch which was directly under a pigeon nest AND contains the requisite
minerals.
     I hope this helps.

Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Reeves <brucereeves@...>
To: <mccartys@onelist.com>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [mccartys] IM


> From: "Bruce Reeves" <brucereeves@...>
>
> Jim, know you have this but wanted to make sure everyone else does too!
> aol - BruceReeve  yahoo - BruceReeves
>
> --
> brucereeves@...
> http://users.ev1.net/~reeves
>
> Play like you don't need to work,
> Work like you don't need the money,
> Dance like no one is watching,
> Love like you won't get hurt.
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Jim, know you have this but wanted to make sure everyone else does too!
aol - BruceReeve  yahoo - BruceReeves

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Play like you don't need to work,
Work like you don't need the money,
Dance like no one is watching,
Love like you won't get hurt.
--

Hi All,

Please let me know whether you are or aren't using an instant messenger service
and, if you are, your "screen name".

FYI - mine is JR of ET.

If you don't, but are interested, AOL's is free (AOL Instant Messenger
register@...).  I know there are others but I have no details.

Jim Reed

Feel better Cousin!  God bless you.  I am getting on the road right now and
I hope to see you all the beautiful McCartys there!

Love,

Sue  (Lansford Bruner)

----------
From: brucereeves@...
To: mccartys@onelist.com
Subject: [mccartys] Reunion
Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 10:06 PM

From: brucereeves@...

Well, the reunion is just a few short days away.

I am currently in the throes of stomach trauma so may or may not make it to
the reunion - which brings me to the point of this e-mail....

Is there anyone on the list from Houston or will be traveling through
Houston to the reunion?

I have a couple of things I need to get there....  I'll probably overnite
them out tomorrow (thursday) afternoon if I don't get any takers before
then....

God willing - maybe I'll make it there yet!

love,
cuz bruce

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Well, the reunion is just a few short days away.

I am currently in the throes of stomach trauma so may or may not make it to the
reunion - which brings me to the point of this e-mail....

Is there anyone on the list from Houston or will be traveling through Houston to
the reunion?

I have a couple of things I need to get there....  I'll probably overnite them
out tomorrow (thursday) afternoon if I don't get any takers before then....

God willing - maybe I'll make it there yet!

love,
cuz bruce

Funtricity Park (the amusement park in the vicksburg information) has apparently
gone out of business.  Their telephone has also been disconnected.

One week and counting!  :)

Hope all of you are looking forward to our vacation and fun at the family
reunion next weekend....

Here are some links you may want to check out for fun things to do in the area!

http://www.vicksburg.org/cvb/and_more.htm is the visitors bureaus "other"
category....  the link on this page to the theme park is no longer functional -
don't know whether the park is still in operation or not

http://www.vicksburg.org/cvb/casinos.htm

http://www.vicksburg.org/cvb/homes.htm (historic)

http://www.vicksburg.org/cvb/museums.htm


and nearby

Jackson - 1 hour east http://www.visitjackson.com/

Natchez - 1 hour south http://www2.bkbank.com/ncvb/

This is a message to test the new mailing list for the Tillman W. McCarty
Descendants....

You can now send an e-mail to everyone on the list simply by sending your e-mail
to mccartys@onelist.com