Anthony Gregory wrote to Brian Miller on lpradicals (from which I was expelled after my No First Force Pledge <http://marketliberal.org/No1stForce.html>...
I had a thoughtful response to Brian Miller about Ron Paul, centralism and gays, but Susan censored it from the LP radicals list. ... -- "There are some...
Anthony Gregory
anthony.gregory@...
Nov 1, 2007 4:59 pm
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Only Ron Paul knows whether or not Ron Paul is a homophobic bigot. His positions and policy proposals, however, are a matter of public record, and there is...
Considering that neither Mr. Holtz nor Mr. Gregory are (to my knowledge) LGBTQ persons, and also considering that neither are members of Outright Libertarians,...
Brian Miller
hightechfella@...
Nov 1, 2007 6:15 pm
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... Wait a second. Are you saying someone has to be queer to understand that queers have a natural right to liberty? Why is this? This sounds slightly bigoted...
Anthony Gregory
anthony.gregory@...
Nov 1, 2007 6:15 pm
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Brian Miller wrote: BM) Considering that neither Mr. Holtz nor Mr. Gregory are (to my knowledge) LGBTQ persons, and also considering that neither are members...
Here, by the way, is what I tried to post on LP Radicals: Ron Paul has said gay people should not be booted from the military unless they act disruptively,...
Anthony Gregory
anthony.gregory@...
Nov 1, 2007 6:28 pm
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Yes I agree that after Brian Millers statement that those critizizing him cannot possibly understand the situation because they are not Lesbian-gay-or ...
Anthony Burke
honestt057@...
Nov 1, 2007 6:30 pm
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Well, gents, considering the rampant problem of heterophobia in society, I must plead guilty to an astonishing lack of compassion for the heterosexual...
Brian Miller
hightechfella@...
Nov 1, 2007 6:53 pm
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Brian, I don't think you're reading what we're saying. Look, are you a user of meth, cocaine and LSD? If not, does that mean you can't rigorously oppose the...
Anthony Gregory
anthony.gregory@...
Nov 1, 2007 6:53 pm
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Thomas L. Knapp wrote: BH to BM) The fact remains that you cannot produce a single quote from Paul saying that he "believes that government -- not individuals...
We never said that we know more about any issue than you, we keep saying the same things: 1. We all agree that everyone deserves equall rights regaurdless of...
Anthony Burke
honestt057@...
Nov 1, 2007 7:05 pm
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I'm all for straight allies. There are lots of them, many of them are informed about the issues. Unfortunately, all the criticism of Outright's scorecard is...
Brian Miller
hightechfella@...
Nov 1, 2007 7:05 pm
2339
Yes, it's disingenuous to say that a libertarian opposing the central state overriding sodomy laws is approving of those laws. Similarly, it's disingenuous to...
Anthony Gregory
anthony.gregory@...
Nov 1, 2007 7:05 pm
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Brian, do you really believe that being kicked out of the military is a rights violation? As a radical, why would you favor the right of anyone to work for a...
Anthony Gregory
anthony.gregory@...
Nov 1, 2007 7:06 pm
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Brian Miller wrote: BM) Honestly, if you gents believe this sort of thing, and think that a bunch of straight guys can lecture LGBTQ people on what it's like...
... Just checking. -- "There are some troubles from which mankind can never escape. . . . [The anarchists] have never claimed that liberty will bring...
Anthony Gregory
anthony.gregory@...
Nov 1, 2007 7:26 pm
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And as I noted before (and you didn't port over), your "distinction" is without a difference. If I am personally opposed to torture, but believe that the ...
Brian Miller
hightechfella@...
Nov 1, 2007 7:32 pm
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Do children have a right to join the military? How about blind people? A right is something that all individuals have. You can't all have a right to join the...
Anthony Gregory
anthony.gregory@...
Nov 1, 2007 7:42 pm
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Now there's a line that will lead to much electoral and outreach success. Gay people are legally incompetent (like children) and handicapped (like the blind),...
Brian Miller
hightechfella@...
Nov 1, 2007 7:43 pm
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I've got a lot of work to get done today, and not a lot of time to do it, so I'm not going to get in a long and circular discussion. Suffice to say: 1) Of...
Brian Miller
hightechfella@...
Nov 1, 2007 7:43 pm
2347
... The 9th Amendment recognizes rights even if not stated explicitly. These are both common-law and natural rights that exits apart from the constitution and...
Well, I think it is wrong to initiate force against children. And it's wrong to initiate force against the blind. And it's wrong to initiate force against...
Anthony Gregory
anthony.gregory@...
Nov 1, 2007 9:06 pm
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Anthony Gregory wrote to Brian Miller: AG) Libertarianism is about non-aggression. (AG Libertarianism is about minimizing aggression. Abstinence isn't the...
Thomas L. Knapp wrote: TK) there is absolutely no doubt that those positions and policy proposals are homophobic and bigoted ... and therefore the distinction...
I dispute the logic of your pledge. Accepting stolen money, while perhaps immoral, is not a rights violation in itself. We all live on land that was at one...
Anthony Gregory
anthony.gregory@...
Nov 1, 2007 9:44 pm
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Rob Power wrote: Rob) Here's a draft platform from one of the LP Platform Committee's subcommittees: ...
... I'm not sure but I might be able to commit to everysingle one but not sure about a couple of them. (listed 1. and 2.) 1. I will refuse to accept any...
Anthony Burke
honestt057@...
Nov 1, 2007 11:54 pm
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Shouldn't we just try to rely on state militias for our nations defense? It seems the military industrial complex has our national military by the balls.....I...
Anthony Burke
honestt057@...
Nov 1, 2007 11:54 pm
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Tony Burke wrote: TB) I just want to know in which debate did Ron Paul say he would not repeal don't ask don't tell. (TB See my Ron Paul quote earlier today in...