Myself I hope the Government actually preserves at least one of the recent generation of RAN Warships as a museum site, rather than a dive wreck.
The state of play with Cerberus is that she needs urgent external support to avoid a major collapse that would end any chance of preserving her.
There are a couple of proposals on the table for after this, including raising her out of the water at her current location & even lifting her whole & moving her to dry land for an eventual restoration. Of the two, the latter is more expensive, but would certainly provide very good long term value in terms of Australian maritime heritage, education & tourism.
The job could certainly be done, if you look at the restoration of ships like HMS Warrior, SS Great Britain & HMS Gannet, in the UK. And if it was done Australia would end up with a truly unique surviving warship, that was in fact the genesis of all the major Battleships from 1870 up to HMS Dreadnought in 1904.
Many thanks for your help.
Ted
--- In maritime_history_downunder@yahoogroups.com, Mori Flapan <mflapan@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Ted
>
> I have added the exhibition to the group calender.
>
> I was reflecting on the ship's problems when I thought about what Government
> is about to spend on sinking the Adelaide off the Central Coast of NSW. The
> press release reads:
>
> *The Commonwealth Government will contribute up to $5.8 million to the
> project, to prepare the ship and ensure environmental hazards are removed,
> and to then sink the ship in the coastal waters off Terrigal NSW.*
>
> *Senator Faulkner said: "The Commonwealth is delighted that ex-HMAS Adelaide
> will become a major dive attraction and provide significant benefits for the
> Central Coast of NSW."*
>
> It seems ironic to me that such sums are being spent on sinking a modern
> naval ship for the enjoyment of a relatively small section of the community
> for a finite period of time when preserving the Cerberus brings access to a
> much more historic "dive wreck" to very many more persons including school
> children, and for many more decades to come.
>
> The motivator behind the Adelaide must be the business plan that comes with
> the scheme. It would be interesting to understand the economic justification
> behind the government financing the scuttling of these former RAN warships.
>
> Could the Cerberus be stabilized by an internal support frame where she lies
> and be used as a restaurant or something similar? It is not as good a
> solution as a proper museum preservation, but it might be much better
> option than just letting her fall apart. This proposal would see only the
> topsides preserved where she lies. I have not seen her for many years now,
> but in the 1980s, there was still plenty of the ship still there to work
> with. It would be a similar proposal to the Duke & Orr's dry dock
> renovations. but with the Cerberus' topsides resting on concrete piles.
> Polly's dock renovations have cost $11 million. Possibly a similar amount
> might be enough to support the Cerberus. Compare this against $5.8 million
> for creating the Adelaide dive wreck.
>
> Best regards
> Mori
>
> .
>
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Iron Duke <i_ron_d_uke@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Most of you will know of the Ironclad Monitor HMVS Cerberus, built in Britain
> > in 1868, that was once the Flagship of the then Colony of
> > Victorias Navy. Since the 1920's she has been acting as a breakwater near
> > Melbourne & there has been an ongoing campaign to save her. She is now
> > listed as a heritage site by both the Victorian State & National
> > Australian bodies & even the Government has, at last, coughed up a little
> > money to help save her from collapse. However time is rapidly running out
> > for this important historic ship. My better half runs an art gallery &,
> > in
> > association with the 'Save the Cerberus Alliance' we are putting on a
> > special Save the Cerberus exhibition featuring new original artworks,
> > featuring Cerberus, by about a dozen contemporary Australian artists. The
> > Exhibition will also include 19th Century paintings of the ship,
> > photographs, a model of HMVS Cerberus & assorted artifacts from the ship
> > including a giant 10 inch shell. The exhibition will run from 7th-18th
> > October 2009. Should anyone be in or near Melbourne during those dates,
> > please do come along. We hope the opening will include the participation
> > of Victorian Navy reenactors in full 19th Century Naval rig. A proportion
> > of the proceeds of all sales will go to the Save the Cerberus group & we
> > also hope to generate much publicity for this worthy charity. Below are a
> > few useful links with further details... Ted
> >
> > http://www.cerberus.com.au/
> >
> > http://www.pivotalgalleries.com/
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RoyalNavy_from_1789/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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