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Fred

I just happen to have my Mac19 centerboard out of my boat as I'm
doing some repair to it.  The stock bolt is a 3/8" x 5".  I'm
upgrading my system to a 1/2" bolt size to beef it up a bit.  The
prior owner apparently hooked it onto the trailer axle when launching
the boat and did quite a number on it......

-Chris
un-named 1992 Mac19

--- In macgregor19sailboats@yahoogroups.com, "Garmon, Tom"
<tomg@w...> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Does anybody know the length of a keel pivot bolt. I'm pretty sure
that
> Macgregor has used the same bolt with rubber and cup washers for
all of
> his swing keel designs. I pulled my swing keel out and the bolt was
> pretty bent. I went to go measure it to get a new one and I can't
seem
> to find it (story of my life)! I'd appreciate any help.
>
> Tom Garmon
>
> '92 19'
>
> Northeast Ohio

Having succumbed to a good deal on a Mac 26X, which doesn't fit
in my garage or carport, I am putting "Wings" up for sale.

She is a factory red hull; see older photos in Wings photo album.
She has cabin and stern rails, swim ladder, IdaSailor tiller,
halyards led aft, new dual batteries with Perko switch, and new
electrical panel with battery check gauge and cigarette lighter
plug, factory main and jib sails, and a used genoa sail from
Minney's that I haven't tried yet.

2004 Honda 40 four stroke, BF40A4LHTA lovingly broken in and with 10
total hours on it. Has tachometer, power trim and tilt gauge and
hour meter.

Trailer has new steel belted radial trailer tires and repacked
bearings. The outer bearings and races were replaced, the inners are
good. Normal amount of rust. I was going to repaint it this summer
since I have a slip reserved on our regular sailing lake.

I can email current photos if interested. Asking $9,500 since the
new motor cost me $5,500.

Tim Gallagher
Corvallis, OR
541-745-9053

This is for the owner of "Wind Dancer". I noticed in your pics that
you have a forward hatch. Was this hatch installed by you or a dealer
and what size and brand is it? This looks like something I would like
to include on my boat.
Thanks

Hi,
guess I haven't heard from you before.  Want to tell
us where you keep your boat and anything else about
you.  Maybe we can find another 19 near you to sail
with.

I've been looking for a reasonably priced hatch
myself. Let me know if you find two.   Marine stores
like West Marine, etc.  handle new ones but I figure
there are probably some super bargains available from
the SE hurricanes when they scrap out some of the
boats for parts. Get one that's tinted but still lets
in light and you may want to fit a screen to the
inside. Plastic scratches but won't break as easily as
a glass one would.

   As long as the hatch is still in good shape and
matches the deck curvature fairly closely, I think
there are a number of sizes you can use.  If you're
going through all the trouble of cutting a hole and
trying to seal the hatch against leakage, might as
well get one large enough to squeeze through when you
want to.  Fellow down in Florida with a hatch uses it
to handle his jib since he feels uncomfortable on the
foredeck??  Then there's the unlikely scenario when
someone locks you into the cabin or some other reason
you have to escape from the front of the cabin.

good luck, Mike





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I recently purchased "Compromise" from Bruce Emsley in the Fairfax,
VA area and I live in the SW Tip of Virginia close to Cumberland Gap.
TN. I'm keeping the boat in my shop for the winter and will probably
use Wataga Lake around Johnson City, TN or Norris Lake around
Knoxville. I won't have a chance to sail until spring or so. Using
winter for fixin up (Details) Also am working on Webpage for my small
business. Hope to offer some accessories for the Mac 19 owners after
I get a little more development time.
Later


--- In macgregor19sailboats@yahoogroups.com, mike fortuna
<angelwilliams69@y...> wrote:
> Hi,
> guess I haven't heard from you before.  Want to tell
> us where you keep your boat and anything else about
> you.  Maybe we can find another 19 near you to sail
> with.
>
> I've been looking for a reasonably priced hatch
> myself. Let me know if you find two.   Marine stores
> like West Marine, etc.  handle new ones but I figure
> there are probably some super bargains available from
> the SE hurricanes when they scrap out some of the
> boats for parts. Get one that's tinted but still lets
> in light and you may want to fit a screen to the
> inside. Plastic scratches but won't break as easily as
> a glass one would.
>
>   As long as the hatch is still in good shape and
> matches the deck curvature fairly closely, I think
> there are a number of sizes you can use.  If you're
> going through all the trouble of cutting a hole and
> trying to seal the hatch against leakage, might as
> well get one large enough to squeeze through when you
> want to.  Fellow down in Florida with a hatch uses it
> to handle his jib since he feels uncomfortable on the
> foredeck??  Then there's the unlikely scenario when
> someone locks you into the cabin or some other reason
> you have to escape from the front of the cabin.
>
> good luck, Mike
>
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To all the members of the group, I best wishes for the holiday season!
Jeff Pierson

This is a response to member "bronwengrandaughter" whose return email
address was invalid when I personally replied.  Sorry to everyone
else who receives this spam!

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Yes, you will need to remove the access hatches that allows you entry
into the ballast tank where the bolt is.  You will also need to jack
up the boat if it's on the trailer and make sure the centerboard
cable is released.  The M19 centerboard is heavier than the hollow
one on my prior 26X so watch that it doesn't konk you on the head as
it falls out.
Good luck,
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: bronwengrandaughter
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 8:06 PM
To: cbhinkel2
Subject: Keel Bolt



Saw on your message that you were removing the Swing keel. I also
need to remove mine but have know idea on the proceedure. Any tips?
Do you get to the bolt thru the 2 access plates in the floor?? I'm a
new owner so I don't know to much about it yet. Any advice welcome.
Paul Fisher (COMPROMISE)

This is a request for help from a Mac 19 sailor in Scotland:

Does anyone know if it is possible to buy the little plastic end-pieces
which keep the spreader cables in place against the spreaders? Finally
mine have broken (I have had my boat since 1993). I know that once the
sail is up the tension of the spreader rigging keeps everything in place
but I would prefer to replace the spreader ends if that is possible.

Information about where to buy, what to ask for and approximate price
from anyone who has already done this would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,
Dane Sherrard
Mac19 'Olivebank' on Loch Lomond, Scotland.
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Tom,

Thank you very much indeed.

I will be on to the folk you have identified for me at once.

Best wishes,

Dane
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Mike,

In the twelve years I have had my Mac 19 I have repaired the centreboard
cable twice. The first time it was done professionally while the boat
hung on a crane beside the harbour pier. A new cable was fixed to the
top of the centreboard pushed up through the cable housing and fixed to
the pulley system in-board. This repair lasted for a season and then the
cable came away from the centre-board again.

This time I decided to fix the cable myself. We took the boat out of the
water on the trailer. Then we undid the screws on the water ballast tank
inspection hatches either side of where the centre-board bolt is fitted.
This gave me access to the bolt which easily unfastened liberating the
centre-board. I had to jack-up the underside of the boat (lift it above
the trailer) to enable the centre-board to fall free because  it was
held in place by a strut across the trailer. However, having got the
centre-board away from the boat I was able to fix a new length of cable
very securely to the fixing point at the head of the centre-board by
crimping a copper piece around the cable ends -- having the centre-board
free I was able to do this properly which I think is where things fell
down before.

Then it was a case of putting the centre-board back in place, threading
the cable up through the cable housing, re-inserting the bolt and fixing
it (using lots of sealant), refitting the inspection hatches (again
using lots of sealant) and fixing the cable to the rope pulley system in
the boat.

I suppose it took about a couple of hours, most of which was spent
finding a way of jacking-up the boat to get the centre-board in and out
(I used my car jack under a large piece of wood) and getting hold of a
crimping tool and the copper bits with which to crimp the cable
together.

The good news is that the last time I did this was in 1996 and the
centre board has not given me a moment's problem since.

Best of luck,
Dane Sherrard

Mac19 Olivebank on Loch Lomond in Scotland
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It was much harder to watch someone else tow away than I thought it
would be. I guess first boats are like that......

Thanks to everyone here for your help, ideas and photos. You are a
great group!

Tim

(I've deleated the Wings folder to free up photo storage space.)

Paul,

Good to hear from you.

My keel has the holes you describe in it. I am not sure that they are
drain holes but are perhaps to make the keel lighter in weight. I don't
know -- but mine has them too! I haven't a clue about what is inside the
keel but the weight of it would suggest that there is a metal post of
some kind there.

I am sorry that this is not help at all -- except to reassure you that
my keel is the same as yours.


Best of luck,
Dane Sherrard

Mac19 Olivebank on Loch Lomond in Scotland
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Spring is next. I have a 19 Mac for sail. Trailer, 40 hp Honda 4
stroke, main-jib and genoa. Mast raising system. New battery,trailer
tires and bearings. 1 hook and safety equip...flares, life jackets.
Located in Alameda, CA dry storage on the trailer at marina.Let me
know if interested $8,000..wahoo offer? Thanks virplemae (David)

Hi,
just found out I may be relocating to Phoenix area by summer and was wondering
if any of
our group is located anywhere closeby.  Quite a few lakes and reservoirs in the
area and
great sailing weather but I didn't see many sailboats on my last visit.   Mike

Does anyone know what size and where to get a cover for the Mac 19?
The neighbor's tree is really doing a number as well as community
cats!

Hi all,
I use a 25'X 16' green tarp.  It is big enough to go over the the mast
in its cradle and still hang over the sides a coupld of feet.  I put
one adjustable strap under the cockpit, and bolts/nuts and bungee cords
keeps it tight even in heavy winds.
Ron

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one adjustable strap under the cockpit, and bolts/nuts and bungee cords
keeps it tight even in heavy winds.
Ron

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Hi all,
I use a 25'X 16' green tarp.  It is big enough to go over the the mast
in its cradle and still hang over the sides a coupld of feet.  I put
one adjustable strap under the cockpit, and bolts/nuts and bungee cords
keeps it tight even in heavy winds.
Ron

Negative.  I take it off.

Sorry about the three posts.  I kept getting error from my mail machine
and thought they were not going thru.

Ron

--- OceanDrm17@... wrote:

> Thanks, does it stay in palce for trailoring?
>

I bought one on Ebay not long ago for about $20 +
shipping.  It's silver fabric and strong enough to
survive heavy ice buildup so far.  Actually designed
for a poweboat but if mast is down(in trailer
position) It works fine.  Will try to send photo or
look up the seller.  I think I specified a 20' boat to
make sure I had enough length. I wanted protection
from winter snow but it also kept the boat cleaner
during the fall from all the leaves and crud dropping
on the boat.  Mike

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I've decided to sell my '93 Mac 19.

With 3rd kid it's getting too small.

Clear title. White hull, bottom painted black. Blue bimini top.
40 HP Tohatsu, 6.5 gallon fuel tank, bilge pump. All rigging, main,
jib & Genoa. Blue main sail cover. Anchor. Side railing & swim
ladder. Compass.

Boat is garage kept. Engine was serviced and number of parts changed
in June '04. Runs well. New battery. Never used porta potty. Life
jackets. Engine tiller extension. Fan. Small marine speaker outside,
wire comes out inside. Throw flotation cushion and couple other misc
items.

Trailer was sand blasted and repainted about 2-3 years ago. Solid.
Trailer lights & wiring were replaced in '04.

One small seat cushion (above battery is missing). There are some
small chips and scratches. Engine well (bottom portion inside the
boat) has 2 small cracks in fiberglass. Gel coat and paint can use
some touch up to make look brand new.

Spare fuel tank available, however needs new ball in quick connect.
Probably easier to replace quick connect.

Boat came from Great Lakes area. I never used in the salt water.

Boat is ready to go in the water this season. However some TLC will
help.

Pictures of the boat in the photos section under Fantasea and I can
take additional ones.

I'm asking $7,500. Boat is located in Morris County, NJ Lake
Hopatcong area and can be seen by appointment.

Description given is to the best of my knowledge. Please make every
effort to inspect before pickup.

Boat sold as is where is. To be paid in full before pickup.  Cash,
wire or cashiers check. If shipping is required will work with
shipper.

Michael
icvd213@...

Hello,

I'm considering buying a M19. In its favor are small size (can store
in my garage), low cost (about a third of the cost of a 26X),
reasonably nice cockpit, and easy to tow.

But I have some concerns about the suitability of the boat. From what
I can gather it does not sail particularly well especially in light
wind conditions. The cabin, while large for a 19' boat seems cramped
and perhaps not as well laid out as it could be. Don't like having the
centerboard trunk dividing up the foot well area. Don't particularly
like the location of the stove. The covers over the storage area under
the seats are small giving poor access to the storage area.

I would appreciate hearing some honest comments on their M19's from
owners. Particularly the sailing ability and how they have found the
cabin on overnight trips.

Thanks