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7891 renardo68@...
renardo68 Offline Send Email
Apr 1, 2009
9:07 pm
I would agree with most of your Opinions which show that have informed yourself very deeply about early christianity and early gospels. The scenario with 3...
7892 clontzjm Offline Send Email Apr 4, 2009
5:08 am
Hello Renardo, Good to hear from you. Let's use your premise that there were two Jewish Christian gospels written by Matthew in Hebrew/Aramaic language,...
7893 peter.moratto Offline Send Email Apr 5, 2009
5:42 pm
I just purchased a rather unusual book on the origins of Christianity called the Real Messiah. The author claims to have discovered a throne of St. Mark in...
7894 irmboid@...
annablusi3 Offline Send Email
Apr 6, 2009
4:11 am
The throne exists. There are photographs in the book. IT IS ON PUBLIC DISPLAY IN THE CATHEDRAL AND IS PICTURED IN THE CATHEDRAL GUIDEBOOK. Hundreds walk past...
7895 Rabbi Albin
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Apr 6, 2009
12:35 pm
I do not know any one who disputes the Coptic Church's claim that St. Mark founded the Coptic Church, which is one of the ancient churches of Christendom. ...
7896 Klaus Schilling
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Apr 6, 2009
1:34 pm
From: "Rabbi Albin" <netseri@...> Subject: RE: [loisy] The Real Messiah Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:34:20 -0500 ... St. Mark is an ahistorical fiction, thus...
7897 Rabbi Albin
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Apr 6, 2009
7:44 pm
And you sir, were you there? The existence of historical statements about someone outside of the writings of Jews or Christians is not proof of existence, nor...
7898 Peter Moratto
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Apr 7, 2009
1:49 am
I admit I hadn't read the book when I first made my post.  Now I have made my way to through the first three chapters and took note of the acknowledgements. ...
7899 Peter Moratto
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Apr 7, 2009
1:51 am
Hi Klaus:   I guess this is the one thing that I agree with Stephan Huller about.  Why should the Alexandrian tradition be rejected any more than let's say...
7900 Yuri Kuchinsky
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Apr 7, 2009
2:26 am
... Hey, Klaus, let's be respectful here of other peoples' opinions. Lots of people believe all kinds of things, so it doesn't mean that they are fools. For...
7901 peter.moratto Offline Send Email Apr 7, 2009
3:46 am
Klaus Huller seems to think that Mark's visit to Alexandria was a real historical event. The real question is why isn't Alexandria important enough to be...
7902 Klaus Schilling
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Apr 7, 2009
5:19 am
From: Peter Moratto <peter.moratto@...> Subject: Re: [loisy] The Real Messiah Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:48:21 -0700 (PDT) ...   Those traditions are...
7903 Klaus Schilling
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Apr 7, 2009
10:03 am
From: "peter.moratto" <peter.moratto@...> Subject: [loisy] Re: The Real Messiah Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:46:01 -0000 ... Alexandria is the origin of...
7904 Rabbi Albin
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Apr 7, 2009
12:26 pm
Now Mr. Schilling when you were present with St. Clement, tell me how he proceeded to create this fictitious character, Mark, the nephew of Barnabas and son of...
7905 Peter Moratto
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Apr 7, 2009
3:05 pm
Klaus   But surely there had to be a real historical author behind the gospel.  Mark had to have lived and traveled somewhere. Even if we discount the...
7906 Jim Deardorff
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Apr 7, 2009
6:14 pm
... Peter, Here's my take on it. The writer of Luke/Acts, writing in early 2nd century, of course knew that he himself wrote them and that he would have to...
7907 Martin Edwards
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Apr 9, 2009
2:57 pm
7908 Martin Edwards
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Apr 9, 2009
2:59 pm
... Why should the Alexandrian tradition be rejected any more than let's say the traditions associated with Rome, Antioch or Ephesus? ... [Non-text portions of...
7909 Martin Edwards
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Apr 9, 2009
3:04 pm
Has anyone tried using the rich text editor? I have tried to change fonts and it doesn't work. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
7910 irmboid@...
annablusi3 Offline Send Email
Apr 9, 2009
3:32 pm
You have missed the point, apparently on purpose, since no other explanation seems feasible. The correspondent denied that the throne existed. Misinformation...
7911 renardo68@...
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Apr 14, 2009
9:24 am
Hello clontzim Thanks for your detailed answer About justin, I agree, he himself was orthodox (although orthodoxiy in 2. C could mean positions that in...
7912 clontzjm Offline Send Email Apr 15, 2009
2:43 am
Hello Renardo, Thank you for sharing your information. You mentioned "If the light or fire apeared only in the ebionite version of authentic Matthew then we...
7913 Jim Deardorff
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Apr 15, 2009
4:58 am
... Hello List, This has two elements in common with the source of Matthew that I've been studying the past 23 years, i.e., the Talmud Jmmanuel. Here are its...
7914 Klaus Schilling
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Apr 15, 2009
3:31 pm
That light in the Jordan is derived from ancient Greek, maybe even older oriental mythology that tells about Phaeton, son of solar deity Phoebos Apollo, who...
7915 Jim Deardorff
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Apr 15, 2009
8:51 pm
Hello Jerry, Naturally I'm interested in knowing about those two old Latin mss discussed by Metzger, with a verse between Mt 3:15 & 16. Is that in his...
7916 jerry clontz
clontzjm Offline Send Email
Apr 15, 2009
10:35 pm
Hello Jim, The two manuscripts are ita and vgms. Metzger cites them in A Textual Commentary On the Greek New Testament, Second Edition. Peace, Jerry ...
7917 clontzjm Offline Send Email Apr 16, 2009
12:23 am
I'll try that again, The two manuscripts are it(a) and vg(ms) [The paranthesis represent supersript]. Metzger cites them in A Textual Commentary On the Greek...
7918 clontzjm Offline Send Email Apr 16, 2009
1:44 am
An analysis of Justin's writings indicates that Justin may have only known a truncated form of the Lukan Sermon on the Plain. The portions of the Lukan Sermon...
7919 clontzjm Offline Send Email Apr 16, 2009
5:32 pm
Hello Everyone, I've been considering a paradox for some time between the PGH and the statement ascribed to Papias: Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History 3.39.16 16...
7920 clontzjm Offline Send Email Apr 17, 2009
1:19 am
IMO there is evidence that the gospels indicate that an accountant ledger existed and that this accountant ledger is the Q source. Examples include: Luke 8:3 -...
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