Patti Since you into conspiracy theories I am wondering what "conspiracy theory" do you have on the Kennedy assignation ? Robert Raphael ... From:...
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Robert Raphael
rraphael3@...
Oct 1, 2001 1:44 pm
Alan I believe Raymond Brown' s book "The Birth of the Messiah" discusses the prophesy of Isaac in relation to messianic prophesy Robert Raphael ... From:...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000@...
Oct 1, 2001 1:53 pm
... Is this really a proper topic for discussion on Loisy? Yours, JG -- Jeffrey B. Gibson, D.Phil. (Oxon.) 1500 W. Pratt Blvd. Floor 1 Chicago, Illinois 60626 ...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000@...
Oct 1, 2001 3:50 pm
... According to one pseudepigraphal work (Martyrdom and Ascension of Isaiah), he was sawn in two. Hey, here's a thought. Maybe Isaiah was John the Baptist on...
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Kanefer@...
Oct 1, 2001 4:29 pm
I wondered if Isaiah 53 might be autobiographical....
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000@...
Oct 1, 2001 4:37 pm
... On what grounds? Patti, do you ever do any real research? Have you ever thought about going to a library and checking out a commentary or two on Isaiah, or...
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Hans Radax
cecitor@...
Oct 1, 2001 4:38 pm
... Which one of them? If I am right, there were three Isaiahs, writing before and during (and, in fact, after) the Babyonian exile. Is this correct. The ...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000@...
Oct 1, 2001 5:11 pm
... This is the conclusion of modern scholarship regarding the **text** of the book of Isaiah. But the author of the _M and A of Isaiah_ and most first century...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000@...
Oct 1, 2001 5:41 pm
Patti, Here's the sort of thing you might find if you'd ever actually get to the Library and read some of the wealth of actual scholarship that's out there...
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Yuri Kuchinsky
yuku@...
Oct 1, 2001 7:51 pm
... Dear Robert, Please let's not have any conspiracy theories on this list. This is a list dedicated to ancient conspiracies only. It's enough that we already...
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Yuri Kuchinsky
yuku@...
Oct 1, 2001 9:14 pm
... Thanks for posting this info, Robert. [Jeffrey:] ... That's just one important clue, Jeffrey. ... And there are also difficulties with the opposite view....
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Jim Deardorff
deardorj@...
Oct 1, 2001 9:24 pm
... Dear Yuri, Speaking for myself, not Robertm, I cannot allow your misconception to pass unrefuted. The TJ is no conspiracy, whatever you may have meant by...
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logically_speaking_20...
Oct 1, 2001 10:49 pm
[Jim Deardorff] ... TJ being ... Ignoring the origins of the TJ, what is the methodology you are using to determine literary dependence? [Jim Deardorff] ... ...
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logically_speaking_20...
Oct 1, 2001 11:03 pm
... I wonder if that "advanced" form of torture was common in the time of Isaiah. I have seen reliefs of Assyrians (I think) impaling captives on large poles,...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000@...
Oct 2, 2001 1:51 am
... I have had the suspicion over the years in my correspondence with Yuri -- a suspicion born out of the fact, among others, that Yuri has never attended an...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000@...
Oct 2, 2001 1:58 am
... So were cult leaders Marshal Applewhite and David Koresh, "seers" like Edgar Cayce, flat earthers like Wilbur Glenn Voliva, hollow earthers like John...
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logically_speaking_20...
Oct 2, 2001 2:03 am
... Koester ... background ... at. ... Yuri ... never ... claim, ... [snip] I think the reason that most NT scholars have not read Loisy is that much of his...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000@...
Oct 2, 2001 2:20 am
... What are your grounds for making such a global claim? My experience (while pursuing my degree and from 30 years of being associated with the guild) is that...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000@...
Oct 2, 2001 3:01 am
... Yuri's claim was that **no** NT scholar -- outside of French ones -- read or were familiar with Loisy. This, as I showed, was simply untrue -- and reveals...
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Kanefer@...
Oct 2, 2001 3:04 am
The priests were not willing to say JB's baptisms were of God, yet they were afraid to say the baptisms were of man because of the masses who loved John. So I...
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logically_speaking_20...
Oct 2, 2001 3:12 am
... that ... correct me ... choosing a ... German ... remains ... not ... to. ... Based on the simple observation that most scholarly citations refer to works...
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mgrondin@...
Oct 2, 2001 3:14 am
... Swiping cookies from the cookie jar and blaming it on your sister isn't at all comparable to the scenario you have in mind. What _would_ be comparable is...
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logically_speaking_20...
Oct 2, 2001 3:14 am
... that ... correct me ... - ... untrue ... Loisy, it ... to ... the ... of the ... view of ... illuminating NT ... Gospels ... the ... despite ... premier ...
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Robert Raphael
rraphael3@...
Oct 2, 2001 3:57 am
Who was TJ. Robert Raphael ... From: Jeffrey B. Gibson <jgibson000@...> To: loisy@yahoogroups.com <loisy@yahoogroups.com> Date: Monday, October 01, 2001...
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Hans Radax
cecitor@...
Oct 2, 2001 3:57 am
... Did Nero set fire to Rome or was he just blamed for it? :-) You know, Suetonius did not like him. Regards, Hans...
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ALAN COX
arc@...
Oct 2, 2001 4:41 am
====================================================================== From: ALAN COX <arc@p...> Date: Sat Sep 29, 2001 8:15 pm Subject: ISAIAH 7:14 ALAN COX...
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mgrondin@...
Oct 2, 2001 6:19 am
... I'm going to do with your response something that you yourself should have done, but didn't, which is to think carefully about it. First, let's unpack the...
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Jim Deardorff
deardorj@...
Oct 2, 2001 7:25 am
... John, The methodology can be broken down into several types: (a) The Matthean passage has been found, by one or more scholars, to be illogical, or...
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Jim Deardorff
deardorj@...
Oct 2, 2001 7:25 am
... Sorry; relative late-comers to this list may not have heard of the Talmud of Jmmanuel (TJ). You can learn about it in: http://www.proaxis.com/~deardorj Jim...
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Kanefer@...
Oct 2, 2001 7:26 am
Mike wrote: <<Such things do happen in history, as they do in families, but they're invariably associated with mental instability and psychosis - not, as you ...
