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1854 Beta David
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Apr 1, 2001
2:11 pm
Re: [loisy] sons of adam / last man http://www.web.net/pinkape/pepys/images/pep022.gif Regarding the link: The moderator, Patti, noted it might be helpful if...
1855 Hans Radax
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Apr 1, 2001
4:15 pm
Interesting story the "swine of the Gadarenes/Gerasenes" :-) A possible argument in support of the theory that Mark is ex eventu of the destruction of...
1856 Kanefer@... Send Email Apr 1, 2001
6:46 pm
Hans, this is awesome information & there is a lot to think about. My son & I saw a play here recently, called "Life is a Dream," which was written by Pedro...
1857 RSBrenchley@... Send Email Apr 1, 2001
10:35 pm
The *four* questions I'd like to see are the following: (1) Could Jesus speak Hebrew? Of course (2) Could Jesus count in Hebrew?...
1858 Robert Raphael
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Apr 2, 2001
4:32 am
What evidence is there that the "gospels took a magical turn because of Roman Influence? " I am really puzzled by this statement since the gospels were written...
1859 Robert Raphael
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Apr 2, 2001
4:39 am
I suggest that you check John P. Meier's book entitled "A Marginal Jew - Rethinking the Historical Jesus (Volume I). Chapter 9 page 255 contains an ...
1860 Kanefer@... Send Email Apr 2, 2001
6:08 am
<<What evidence is there that the "gospels took a magical turn because of Roman Influence? " I am really puzzled by this statement since the gospels were...
1861 Kanefer@... Send Email Apr 2, 2001
7:03 pm
BetaDavid :-) that is cool how photo-reproduction of the PGH is on that website. If we could note the nature of a website as we offer it, that would be...
1862 Kanefer@... Send Email Apr 3, 2001
8:04 pm
Hi, I thought Yuri was back, didn't realize I'm the moderator! But I think we all are as moderators on this list, so let's please continue to feel free to say...
1865 Kanefer@... Send Email Apr 4, 2001
6:16 pm
BetaDavid wrote: <<Recently the list had a very valuable observation from Jim Deardorf. Jim noted: >Surprise! The SOM expression isn't found in the TJ either....
1866 Kanefer@... Send Email Apr 4, 2001
6:36 pm
BetaDavid, I went to that website you noted (below) in order to find out what the "ref. noted" was that you were referring to here, only to discover your most...
1867 RSBrenchley@... Send Email Apr 5, 2001
6:33 pm
... If we take the 'canonical' documents as being 1st Century, then I'd be very wary of any such claim, but what do we mean by 'canonical'? Early copyists were...
1868 RSBrenchley@... Send Email Apr 5, 2001
6:37 pm
... If we take the 'canonical' documents as being 1st Century, then I'd be very wary of any such claim, but what do we mean by 'canonical'? Early copyists were...
1869 RSBrenchley@... Send Email Apr 5, 2001
6:52 pm
... If we take the 'canonical' documents as being 1st Century, then I'd be very wary of any such claim, but what do we mean by 'canonical'? Early copyists were...
1871 RSBrenchley@... Send Email Apr 6, 2001
12:40 pm
Hi all Apologies for sending the same message three times, my connection was playing up and I hadn't realised it had actually gone out. Regards, Robert...
1872 Kanefer@... Send Email Apr 6, 2001
3:34 pm
BetaDavid wrote: <<As suggested IN A PREVIOUS POST ON THIS SAME LIST: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/loisy/message/1864 perhaps 130-132 C.E. is a potential...
1873 yuku@... Send Email Apr 8, 2001
7:47 pm
Hello, friends, It's good that list members are interested in how the Son of Man title is lacking in PG. But I guess I will need to explain my case better. As...
1874 yuku@... Send Email Apr 8, 2001
8:06 pm
... It's good that BD picked up on this. This is indeed quite a significant difference between PG and the canonical Lk. Obviously, PG text is somewhat more...
1876 yuku@... Send Email Apr 8, 2001
8:40 pm
That's a lot of good material that you've posted, Hans! ... The Gospel of Barnabas is quite interesting. This is not the first time when a close parallel with...
1878 Yuri Kuchinsky
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Apr 9, 2001
7:12 pm
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, andomega wrote: [snip a lot of stuff I didn't understand] ... I suggest you take a look into the Bible, and you will find that SOM is ...
1879 Yuri Kuchinsky
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Apr 9, 2001
7:37 pm
Dear friends, Here's my translation of PG 29(end)-30, the story of John's disciples and Jesus. The sentences as printed in 1922 edition are numbered, although...
1880 Kanefer@... Send Email Apr 10, 2001
3:28 am
Yuri wrote: <<On the other hand, it's very easy to explain why SOM would have been added up to the canonical texts at a later stage. At least two reasons...
1881 Kanefer@... Send Email Apr 10, 2001
3:37 am
PGH [you say that he is mad] --#1827 Canonical Luke: "they say, he has a demon." --#1864 Doesn't it seem more likely that Jewish people would say, "you say...
1882 Kanefer@... Send Email Apr 10, 2001
4:10 am
oops, where I wrote this: << But then there's apocalyptic places where "son of man" seems to refer to man in general, as a plural. >> of course I meant in...
1883 Jim Deardorff
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Apr 10, 2001
6:22 am
... Patti, For those who see Matthew as the first of the synoptic gospels, it can make sense that AMt inserted it into his source to further support his proofs...
1884 Kanefer@... Send Email Apr 10, 2001
12:20 pm
PGH 30 (9) *And when Jesus saw this, he said* that they were like the children who neither *laughed* nor wept [together] *with their friends*. Luke 7:32 They...
1885 Hans Radax
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Apr 10, 2001
5:53 pm
... Patty, The expression son of man is found in the following books (frequency) of the Bible: Numbers (1), Job (2), Psalms (4), Isaiah (2), Jeremiah (4),...
1886 RSBrenchley@... Send Email Apr 10, 2001
8:05 pm
... concept ... PGH ... in ... I think 'son of Man' can certainly mean 'human being' (as in Ezekiel 47:6) or possibly 'me', but it can also have an apocalyptic...
1889 Jim Deardorff
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Apr 11, 2001
5:29 am
At 06:33 PM 4/10/01 -0500, you wrote: Hello Beta David, I don't usually comprehend a lot of what you post, however I can make a ... The TJ was a historical...
1890 Kanefer@... Send Email Apr 11, 2001
7:17 pm
BetaDavid wrote>>>RE: [loisy] Jesus and JB ============================================================= DOESN'T IT SEEM Patti wrote:> (quote) PGH [you say...
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