... the result of this mixture ARE THE BIELARUSIANS ... I think there are no facts which can force some Belarusian nationalists to accept the true history of...
Tomas Baranauskas
baranauskas@...
Jan 1, 2001 7:33 pm
340
Catholic Encyclopedia- 1908 This is an early 20th Century version of Lithuanian history. Some of the spellings of names and towns are not modern ones. ... In...
Mike Davidchik
davidchik@...
Jan 1, 2001 9:42 pm
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Mike Davidchik
davidchik@...
Jan 1, 2001 9:54 pm
342
The Lithuanian linguistic nationalists also need to grow up and face the facts. The Lithuanian ducal dynasty intermarried very extensively with Ruthenians,...
David Zincavage
jdz@...
Jan 2, 2001 1:50 pm
343
... the ... significantly ... Nobody deny these marriages. I speak mainly about the early period of the GDL. We don't know who were the wives of the first...
Tomas Baranauskas
baranauskas@...
Jan 2, 2001 7:27 pm
344
Mike Davidchik posted an article "Litva","Belaja Rus'"?... by Dmitry Zelenko ... Not historically, but linguistically: "Litva" is a Slavic word which ...
Tomas Baranauskas
baranauskas@...
Jan 2, 2001 7:27 pm
345
"Tai sakau ne del to, kad noreciau peikti svetimu kalbu mokejima(kuris visiems zmonems visada turejo ir turi savo reiksme ir verte)ypac mokejima lenku kalba,...
Zbigniew Siemienowicz
zbignew@...
Jan 2, 2001 10:36 pm
346
It must be stressed that ... A true ethnocentric idiot says such a thing. With "blue bloods," we might follow only the fraternal line, but, anybody with any...
Mike Davidchik
davidchik@...
Jan 3, 2001 4:42 am
347
Lithuanians speaking the Lithuanian language today do not possess any unique ethnic purity. Like any other group of people in Europe, they are of diverse...
David Zincavage
jdz@...
Jan 3, 2001 2:14 pm
348
... not equal to paternal line. Maternal line ... The tradition is that descent is traced by the paternal line. This tradition was the main principle of...
Tomas Baranauskas
baranauskas@...
Jan 3, 2001 6:01 pm
349
... I don't want to abandon any period of the Lithuanian history. Everything should be in it's place. But I wonder why you want to abandon early history of...
Tomas Baranauskas
baranauskas@...
Jan 3, 2001 6:01 pm
350
The early history of Lithuania, which I do not desire to abandon, consists of successful efforts to create a defensible state in order to resist foreign...
David Zincavage
jdz@...
Jan 3, 2001 7:12 pm
351
... the ... language ... I can almost agree with these statements, though some corrections and additions should be made: 1) Intermarriage was more common not...
Tomas Baranauskas
baranauskas@...
Jan 3, 2001 11:57 pm
352
Tomas Baranauskas <baranauskas@...> wrote ... Sluchajcie, szanouny spadar Baranouski, Jakoje z hlupstva vy piszacie! Ci vy kali-kolviek baczyli statut ...
Rydel Bielaruski
rydel23@...
Jan 4, 2001 2:22 pm
353
Tomas Baranauskas <baranauskas@...> wrote ... Sluchajcie, szanouny spadar Baranouski, Jakoje z hlupstva vy piszacie! Ci vy kali-kolviek baczyli statut ...
Rydel Bielaruski
rydel23@...
Jan 4, 2001 2:23 pm
354
Tomas Baranauskas <baranauskas@...> wrote ... Sluchajcie, szanouny spadar Baranouski, Jakoje z hlupstva vy piszacie! Ci vy kali-kolviek baczyli statut ...
Rydel Bielaruski
rydel23@...
Jan 4, 2001 2:24 pm
355
I suspect the principal element of coercion in the union of the Belarussian principalities with Lithuania consisted of the invasion of Europe by the Tartars,...
David Zincavage
jdz@...
Jan 4, 2001 2:27 pm
356
The 1573 Confederacy of Warsaw consisted of the nobility of both nations swearing on their own behalf, and for their descendants, to keep the peace and never...
David Zincavage
jdz@...
Jan 4, 2001 2:41 pm
357
Those 5000 books must consist in significant part of translations from other languages. The best part of literature produced by Lithuanians, as we all know,...
David Zincavage
jdz@...
Jan 4, 2001 2:51 pm
358
How can Lithuanians think of Belarus as not part of Lithuania? Contemporary Belarus is an ephemeral creation consisting of Lithuanian territories and peoples...
David Zincavage
jdz@...
Jan 4, 2001 3:01 pm
359
... Belarussian ... Yes, this circumstance played it’s role, but the other circumstances are also important. History is not so simple that you can explain...
Tomas Baranauskas
baranauskas@...
Jan 4, 2001 10:04 pm
360
... vy kali-kolviek baczyli statut ... Da, baczyl i Statut, i inszyje krynicy. Tut nie baczyc, ale zrazumiec patrebna. Jaka tut bielaruskaja mova - niet tut ni...
Tomas Baranauskas
baranauskas@...
Jan 4, 2001 10:27 pm
361
In a modern federation resembling the Rzeczpospolita, you would have 4 million Lithuanians, 39 million Poles, 50 million Ukrainians, and 10 million ...
David Zincavage
jdz@...
Jan 4, 2001 11:51 pm
362
That would ne nice to have something similar to Rzecz Pospolita, but it is utterly impossible in the contemporary situation. In terms of unifications we will...
Rydel Bielaruski
rydel23@...
Jan 5, 2001 10:22 am
363
... million ... Thank you. We've just escaped from one "federation" with 300 million inhabitants. When Lithuania belonged to it, one poetess wrote: "Lietuva ...
Tomas Baranauskas
baranauskas@...
Jan 5, 2001 10:33 am
364
Pytannie pierszaje: Dzie vy vuczylisia bielmovie? Prosta cikava, bo u vas pamylki vielmi nietypovyja ani dla vilenczuka ani dla zychara Bielarusi. Pytannie...
Rydel Bielaruski
rydel23@...
Jan 5, 2001 10:35 am
366
Tomas, just replace the acronym "USSR" with the acronym "NATO", and I think this poem can become very popular again. They'll make the kids of Lietuva learn it...
Rydel Bielaruski
rydel23@...
Jan 5, 2001 10:39 am
367
... Ja nie vuczylsia, ja tolki knihi belaruskije czytau - a vuczylsia russkaj movie... ... Takich staronak nie viedaju. Kali czytajecie pa niamecku baczycie...
Tomas Baranauskas
baranauskas@...
Jan 5, 2001 1:20 pm
368
Comparing the Rzeczpospolita to the USSR is insulting to the memory of the former. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was the most liberal and most democratic...
David Zincavage
jdz@...
Jan 5, 2001 1:39 pm
369
The idea of creating a federation resembling Rzeczpospolita was floated in Belarusian media in the late 80's. The proposed name for it was: Balto-Black Sea...
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