The rite of San Marco, Venice, had its own peculiar rite which had considerable variations from the Roman rite. On principal feasts such as Christmas, the...
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Ian Gomersall
iangomersall...
Dec 6, 2010 11:33 pm
I'm aware how popular St Nicholas is in both East and West. His folk popularity seems to have overtaken his liturgical observation. I've been reflecting on him...
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Douglas Cowling
cowling.douglas@...
Dec 6, 2010 11:41 pm
On 12/6/10 6:33 PM, "Ian Gomersall" <ian.gomersall@...> wrote: That has led me to wonder if he is noted liturgically in any special or unusual way? (For...
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arthur keith
arthur_keith
Dec 7, 2010 2:56 am
I grew up in The Netherlands and we celebrated Saint Nicholas Day (Sinterklaas) on the evening of 5 December and the day of the 6th. The story we kids used...
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Douglas Cowling
cowling.douglas@...
Dec 7, 2010 3:14 am
On 12/6/10 9:56 PM, "arthur keith" <arthur_keith@...> wrote: The story we kids used to hear was that Sinterklaas would come to us from Spain by boat...
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arthur keith
arthur_keith
Dec 7, 2010 3:35 am
 I do not know unless it had something to do with the cargo the ship carried. The songs we use to sing always talked about apples of orange. Of course it ...
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Michael Thannisch
mjthannisch
Dec 7, 2010 5:30 am
As I recall, the boy bishop was usually elected on St. Nicholas day. Shalom b'Yeshua haMoshiach  +Mar Michael Abportus mjthannisch@... Pastor,...
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Ian Gomersall
iangomersall...
Dec 7, 2010 11:08 pm
A topic for St Ambrose's day - on the Ambrosian rite. I cam across this: http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2008/02/lighting-of-faro-in-ambrosian-rite.html ...
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Douglas Cowling
cowling.douglas@...
Dec 7, 2010 11:44 pm
On 12/7/10 6:08 PM, "Ian Gomersall" <ian.gomersall@...> wrote: I cam across this: ...
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Ian Gomersall
iangomersall...
Dec 8, 2010 10:26 pm
We had our Rorate mass today (8th Dec) - and again we didn't try the early morning, but stayed with 5pm. I really do commend this lovely Advent Mass. (Read...
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rhawkjmt@...
chantermt
Dec 8, 2010 10:28 pm
Would you like a sound file of the Introit from the Rorate Mass, set by William Byrd and sung by the Schola Cantorum of St. Peter the in the Loop? J. Michael...
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Bob Eldan
eldanbob
Dec 8, 2010 11:10 pm
I have a question that stems from a discussion I had with my ELCA friend. In the ELCA Hymnal the words at the anointing in Baptism are: "N, child of God, you...
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Douglas Cowling
cowling.douglas@...
Dec 9, 2010 12:23 am
On 12/8/10 6:10 PM, "Bob Eldan" <eldan@...> wrote: I have a question that stems from a discussion I had with my ELCA friend. In the ELCA Hymnal the...
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Frank Senn
fcsenn
Dec 9, 2010 1:03 am
Both Luther's 1523 and 1526 Orders of Baptism have: "Receive the sign of the holy cross both on thy forehead and on thy breast."Â Both the 1549 and 1552...
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dlewisaao@...
wx5116
Dec 9, 2010 1:32 am
In my Anglo-Catholic parish, we (probably as expected!) chrismate at baptism with the sign of the cross as well as give a lighted candle to the person baptized...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Dec 9, 2010 2:11 am
Not surprising :) Lew ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Rdr James
rdrjames
Dec 11, 2010 12:41 am
This is what it used to look like. Jim of Olym http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/09/glastonbury-mourns-felling-thorn-tree [Non-text portions of...
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Michael Thannisch
mjthannisch
Dec 11, 2010 6:48 am
What people will do.  Of course the article is a little odd claiming that it strikes at the heart of Christianity. I have always been fond of the story of...
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Ian Gomersall
iangomersall...
Dec 13, 2010 10:55 pm
I've usually thought the use of pink in Advent - hangings, vestments, advent candle ... rather twee. Am I being unkind? When did pink vestments begin to be...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Dec 13, 2010 11:03 pm
Probably the tenth century. The color is "rose" and not "pink." You can google Gaudete Sunday, which is the Advent version of Lent's Laetare. It marks a period...
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Ian Gomersall
iangomersall...
Dec 13, 2010 11:16 pm
Ah yes, should have said Rose - its a more kind description of the colour than pink, perhaps. I'm interested it was as early as the tenth century, Lewis. Do...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Dec 13, 2010 11:24 pm
Google it. I looked at New Advent (the Catholic Encyclopedia) but I'm sure you can find plenty of information. Lew ... [Non-text portions of this message have...
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Douglas Cowling
cowling.douglas@...
Dec 13, 2010 11:36 pm
... I think Gueranger discusses the question in "La Vie Liturgique en Rose" Doug Cowling Director of Music St. Philip's Church, Etobicoke Toronto...
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cantor03@...
cantor03
Dec 14, 2010 1:29 am
I'll repeat the story of the Upper Midwest ECUSA cathedral dean who was asked why he didn't wear the very beautiful and customary rose chasuble and accessories...
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Michael Thannisch
mjthannisch
Dec 14, 2010 2:13 am
From what I have been given to understand that "rose" was included in variations of purple. Shalom b'Yeshua haMoshiach  +Mar Michael Abportus...
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Rdr James
rdrjames
Dec 14, 2010 4:28 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zasAMvuy18&feature=player_embedded#! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Simon Kershaw
qazkershaw
Dec 14, 2010 7:54 am
... Maybe. 'Rosé' is simply French for 'pink' though, isn't it? Just as it is in the case of pink wine. Nothing wrong with an Englishman calling a spade a...
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Douglas Cowling
cowling.douglas@...
Dec 14, 2010 3:14 pm
On 12/14/10 2:47 AM, "Simon Kershaw" <simon@...> wrote: Nothing wrong with an Englishman calling a spade a spade and saying 'pink'. Reminds me of...
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Frank Senn
fcsenn
Dec 15, 2010 3:14 pm
OK, here's a topic for discussion that might add some amusement and maybe even a bit of enlightenment on this list. I have seen whole villages (e.g. Galena,...
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Michael Thannisch
mjthannisch
Dec 15, 2010 4:05 pm
Ex Anglican, but your synopsis seems good. I have been getting a lot of things lately on this, and something that seems to be the common theme, was that...
