First of all thank you to all who have replied. As far as the airfare is concerned, it's cheap. I paid less than $600 for a direct flight from SFO. The Rev....
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Adrian Machiraju
afmachiraju
Mar 5, 2010 1:55 am
Father Hiller, For reliable performance of traditional, Percy Dearmer style Anglican liturgy in central London, every week - and without the ranting,...
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Scott Knitter
zz4j9m
Mar 5, 2010 3:29 am
Don't miss this page of gorgeous photos...showing the results of renovation work. http://www.allsaintsmargaretstreet.org.uk/restorationwork.htm On Thu, Mar 4,...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Mar 5, 2010 6:10 am
Scott: Thank you for sharing these. They're simply jaw-dropping! I was at All SS in 2004 and was impressed. I think this would have blown me away. I also saw...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Mar 5, 2010 6:12 am
Adrian: I worshiped at both when I was in London, but that was 2004, and things were different. Parishes had not yet started purchasing overseas bishops. Has...
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Adrian Machiraju
afmachiraju
Mar 6, 2010 11:11 am
Just one further addition to this now comprehensive summary: anyone wanting to worship in one of London's great historic churches, rather than just visit them...
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Douglas Cowling
cowling.douglas@...
Mar 6, 2010 4:07 pm
... The best place to hear the choir of course is from the choir stalls themselves during Evensong. Go half an hour earlier and sit in the the front pews of...
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cantor03@...
cantor03
Mar 6, 2010 8:46 pm
In a message dated 3/6/2010 11:07:43 Eastern Standard Time, cowling.douglas@... writes: Here's a recherché question. Until the 19th century, the choir...
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Ian Gomersall
iangomersall...
Mar 8, 2010 10:55 pm
I don't think I'd ever describe All Ss Mgt Street as a follower of Dearmer - thats more St Mary the Virgin, Primrose Hill (Dearmer's old church) or indeed...
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dlewisaao@...
wx5116
Mar 9, 2010 5:02 pm
There is a movement among Episcopal parishes in the US Midwest to use the "Universal Western Rite," which means pretty much what Rome does these days. David ...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Mar 9, 2010 5:04 pm
Then how (or why) remain Episcopalian? The Book of Common Prayer, in whatever edition one wants, has been the common thread, indeed the one constitutive...
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dlewisaao@...
wx5116
Mar 9, 2010 5:12 pm
It's the way one does the Prayer Book rite, which is quite similar to the current RC rite anyway. For example, a solemn mass uses a celebrant and two deacons...
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William Renwick
renwick@...
Mar 9, 2010 5:18 pm
wouldn't it be theological differences that would keep Roman Rite Anglicans from joining the RC? William Renwick renwick@... School of the Arts ...
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Scott Knitter
zz4j9m
Mar 9, 2010 5:23 pm
In our case, it's BCP (USA) 1979 Rite II, with ceremonial by Frs. Taylor (of blessed memory) and Norris (now an Orthodox deacon), and Fortescue as the main...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Mar 9, 2010 5:23 pm
So are you saying they use the Prayer Book rite, but with Roman "choreography" (I can't think of the word I want to use, here...actions?) Lew ... [Non-text...
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Scott Knitter
zz4j9m
Mar 9, 2010 5:26 pm
Mainly the status of the Bishop of Rome, I'd think. I've heard this exchange more than once: Q. What's the difference between Anglo-Catholics [or Old...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Mar 9, 2010 5:27 pm
Well yes, it would.... until it doesn't. I know of one Anglo-Catholic priest in a large city who preached a sermon on August 15th, emphasizing how he could...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Mar 9, 2010 5:29 pm
Scott: That's been my experience with Anglo-Catholic parishes I've visited as well. One may add, but not take away. When you take away the BCP, aren't you no ...
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dlewisaao@...
wx5116
Mar 9, 2010 5:29 pm
Yes, pretty much so. In a message dated 3/9/2010 12:23:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lhwhitaker@... writes: So are you saying they use the Prayer Book...
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dlewisaao@...
wx5116
Mar 9, 2010 5:31 pm
When there was one BCP and one rite within it that was true, but now with various BCPs and various rites times have changed. David In a message dated 3/9/2010...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Mar 9, 2010 5:34 pm
That's much clearer, then. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Dr. Jon
joncox
Mar 9, 2010 6:02 pm
The Archbishop of Canterbury is a leader among equals, the Pope is the Holy representative of God. Besides that, Episcopalians sing better and have less...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Mar 9, 2010 6:07 pm
I doubt that most Anglicans would claim that the Pope is "the Holy representative of God." Your cosmology seems to place him higher than everyone else. Didn't...
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Scott Knitter
zz4j9m
Mar 9, 2010 6:19 pm
I read what Dr. Jon said as a statement of the RC view of the Pope, not the Anglican view. ... -- Scott R. Knitter Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Mar 9, 2010 7:14 pm
Perhaps.... I don't know for certain. But the RC position would claim that even the Archbishop of Canterbury's orders are "absolutely void and utterly null." ...
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Scott Knitter
zz4j9m
Mar 9, 2010 7:22 pm
Yes, and I think Dr. Jon was making the same distinction between the two views. ... -- Scott R. Knitter Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Mar 9, 2010 7:46 pm
Then I'm not sure how that pertains to using a Roman rite for the Eucharist or the BCP. Anglican do it... because they can? Lew ... [Non-text portions of this...
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dlewisaao@...
wx5116
Mar 9, 2010 8:27 pm
Anglo-Catholics have for many years used the Anglican, English or American Missal which builds in RC ceremonial from pre-Vatican II practice. I've seen...
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Scott Knitter
zz4j9m
Mar 9, 2010 8:42 pm
I think your 6's did a backflip, David. :) ... 1662 is still official. Common Worship is the standard alternative, and its rubrics are noted for allowing just...
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Douglas Cowling
cowling.douglas@...
Mar 9, 2010 8:43 pm
http://ncronline.org/news/vatican/100-anglican-parishes-join-catholic-church The comments from Catholics below the article are interesting. Doug Cowling ...
