It's a good question. I guess I would approach an answer this way. Bells are really musical instruments. They belong in the percussion family. AS is done...
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James O'Regan
jamesoregan
Jan 1, 2010 3:42 pm
Both of those uses, I think, can be useful even in the traditional positioning in the Mass during the Institution Narrative. But, as Tom has pointed out, bells...
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George Carlson
vistantn
Jan 1, 2010 4:18 pm
While we don't have exactly the same personal taste in liturgy, it is pretty clear we are on this list because we can agree (and the secondary meaning of the...
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Douglas Cowling
cowling.douglas@...
Jan 1, 2010 5:58 pm
... Another function of bells is a call to corporate silence and reflection as at St. Gregory of Nyssa. After the first two readings and the homily, a bell is...
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cantor03@...
cantor03
Jan 1, 2010 6:23 pm
Not unique to Anglican churches, but fairly common in TEC is the use of tower bells for the Sanctus and other locations in the Liturgy where bells are...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Jan 1, 2010 6:26 pm
You should hear the one at Church of the Advent, Boston. You FEEL it right in the pit of your stomach. Lew ... [Non-text portions of this message have been...
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dlewisaao@...
wx5116
Jan 1, 2010 7:12 pm
At St Paul's DC we ring the outside bell before each service or sequence of services (including daily) and ring both the inside ("jingle bells") and outside...
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Tom Poelker
tapoelker
Jan 1, 2010 11:29 pm
Wow! What a good idea about using a [gentle?] to introduce and close a period of silence. Its amazing how many good ideas are in use. I always like learning...
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James
rdrjames
Jan 4, 2010 3:57 am
In our small community we sing when the priest is silent and are silent while he sings, And sometimes we all sing the same thing. but then we are Eastern rite,...
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James
rdrjames
Jan 4, 2010 4:14 am
Our little Mission in Olympia WA had two visitors who were both form a local Presbyterian church today. As the reader/psalti I was rather struck that they...
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James
rdrjames
Jan 4, 2010 4:22 am
Unfortunate that the Spokane cathedral is is pretty modernistic in its praxis now. Jim of Olym Beartiful church with a 3 man Skinner Organ. And the building...
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Janet Roth
jproth@...
Jan 4, 2010 4:33 am
Finest example of French Gothic architecture West of the Mississippi..... the stone blocks were hand numbered --- and it used to be that in places you could...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Jan 4, 2010 4:35 am
"Modernistic in its praxis." What, pray tell, does that mean, Jim? Or are you using it in the "I can't put my finger on it, but I don't like it" sense that...
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Gregory Holmes Single...
ghsingle
Jan 7, 2010 2:38 pm
Dear Friends, So now it is January 7, and we are one day beyond that time of anticipation and fulfillment that began in Churches on Advent I (November 29) and...
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Tom Poelker
tapoelker
Jan 7, 2010 6:38 pm
This makes me sad. Papal liturgist endorses 'reform of the reform'...
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Tom Poelker
tapoelker
Jan 7, 2010 8:12 pm
Most of you can imagine my dismay over this sentence. "I purposefully use the word continuity, a word very dear to our present Holy Father," Marini said. "He...
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Tom Poelker
tapoelker
Jan 7, 2010 8:15 pm
"Everything in the liturgy must be conducive to adoration, Marini said, including the music, the singing, the periods of silence, the way of proclaiming the...
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Sandford MacLean
jsfmacljr
Jan 7, 2010 8:29 pm
Why would this make you sad, Tom? Seems like good news to me. In Christ, Sandford MacLean From: Tom Poelker Sent: Thursday, 07 January, 2010 13:38 To:...
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dlewisaao@...
wx5116
Jan 7, 2010 9:27 pm
To me, "adoration" is a broad term that among other things includes worship. But it also adds a quality - the highest quality - to worship. David In a...
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dlewisaao@...
wx5116
Jan 7, 2010 9:28 pm
"Continuity" suggests that any change must be a part of the whole cloth of what has gone on before rather than something invented de novo. Makes sense to me. ...
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Dr. Jon R.N.
joncox
Jan 7, 2010 10:48 pm
me, too.. Hooker talked about scripture, TRADITION, and reason. I'm delighted, hopefully some of the garbage that the RC discovered and we adopted, because...
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Gregory Holmes Single...
ghsingle
Jan 7, 2010 11:13 pm
Dr. Jon R.N. wrote: (Is my Roman Catholic underwear showing?) It could as easily be Calvinist or some strands of Lutheran undergarments. I am a Baptist...
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dlewisaao@...
wx5116
Jan 8, 2010 1:25 am
I'm confused. The 1962 Missal of John XXIII included a pre-Mass penitential rite for the altar party, but not one for everyone else, and the Novus Ordo...
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rhawkjmt@...
chantermt
Jan 8, 2010 1:41 am
I am assuming that you refer to the part of the Roman Liturgy where the priest says: P. Ecce Agnus Dei, ecce qui tollit peccata mundi. Beati qui ad coenam...
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Gregory Holmes Single...
ghsingle
Jan 8, 2010 1:41 am
Tom, I stipulated that I am fine with the penitential rites that do exist at the beginning. I said nothing about post communion. The progression was: "The ...
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Gregory Holmes Single...
ghsingle
Jan 8, 2010 4:07 am
J.M. Thompson asks: <<Is there a difficulty?>> I am not disputing the existence of these elements in these rites. I am stating that the placement seems to me...
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rhawkjmt@...
chantermt
Jan 8, 2010 4:17 am
OK. I see what you're trying to say. But I'd like to com back at it from another angle. The very fact that it exists in both places says to me that there is...
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Tom Poelker
tapoelker
Jan 8, 2010 5:24 am
To respond Sanford, David, and Lewis all at once. It makes me sad because it is so narrow minded, because adoration is, at most, only one-fourth of the...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Jan 8, 2010 5:32 am
Tom: This is not to dismiss your well thought out comments at all. In fact, I agree. The statements from the Vatican are regressive. However, how much weight...
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Gregory Holmes Single...
ghsingle
Jan 8, 2010 12:34 pm
JMT wrote: << The very fact that it exists in both places says to me that there is a very healthy acknowledgement of who we are and who God is for us in ...
