True, but from the perspective of this list, so many of us are involved at the censing end, and it is good to understand and appreciate the rules - as opposed...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Feb 3, 2009 6:32 pm
Sean, I think we're saying the same thing, in different ways. I would consider the three hour service to be extra-liturgical, and really un-necessary to my own...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Feb 3, 2009 6:29 pm
I don't think that watching Macbeth would be lessened by Lady Macbeth making three steps onto the stage, instead of two, or four. While I think that everything...
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ferrellsd@...
frseanferrell
Feb 3, 2009 6:17 pm
Lew, I've always considered these "extra-liturgical". Leo Mitchell in his book "Lent, Holy Week, Easter, and the Great 50 Days" says, "Earlier versions of the...
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Sean & Kenra Reed
skreed2002
Feb 3, 2009 6:15 pm
John - I don't know what tradition you come from. For some of us, it would not be a matter of being bored and having nothing else to do with the mind but...
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John W Schultz
pukne
Feb 3, 2009 6:02 pm
I have been biting my tongue over this thread, and I mean no disrespect, but a worshiper would have to be pretty bored if they are reduced to counting the...
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Sean & Kenra Reed
skreed2002
Feb 3, 2009 5:56 pm
Kneeling and following a double genuflection, as are all genuflections in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament. SWR ... From: David Waller To:...
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Sean & Kenra Reed
skreed2002
Feb 3, 2009 5:55 pm
Historically, three doubles was the highest "honor" afforded, whether to the Blessed Sacrament, the priest/celebrant, the Bishop etc. Sean W. Reed ... From:...
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Sean & Kenra Reed
skreed2002
Feb 3, 2009 5:52 pm
The perception about the time spent on Benediction may be more indicative of our relative beliefs in the corporal Eucharistic presence of our Blessed Lord,...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Feb 3, 2009 5:28 pm
Doug: Do you mean "Three Hour Agonies" as being distinct from the Good Friday Liturgy? The former (and what a great name for it) being the preaching on the...
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Douglas Cowling
cowling.douglas@...
Feb 3, 2009 3:38 pm
... The way in which Renaissance court etiquette accrued to the Blessed Sacrament is a fascinating bit of theo-sociology. In Spain, you can still find "Pages...
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Chris McConnell
cdmcconnell
Feb 3, 2009 3:22 pm
... They're certainly broadly used -- I think many of us use them regularly -- but they could benefit from a bit of methodological questioning, IMHO. Chris...
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David Waller
dawuk2001
Feb 3, 2009 3:21 pm
Traditional this was shown by the fact that the Blessed Sacrament was censed kneeling. I've seen three triples recently at Benediction. It makes sense to me -...
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dlewisaao@...
Feb 3, 2009 3:21 pm
I've seen it too, but where is the authority to do it? What I've seen in various authorities, particularly Ritual Notes & Fortescue, calls for three ...
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James Keeling
jhkeeling
Feb 3, 2009 3:16 pm
I've seen three triples recently at Benediction. It makes sense to me - its special. It seems more honour should be given than is given tpo the priest, but...
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Douglas Cowling
cowling.douglas@...
Feb 3, 2009 3:11 pm
... I realize that I have inadvertently fallen into a self-created distinction between "liturgical" and "non-liturgical", especially as it regards church ...
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karen marshall
deardollydenton
Feb 3, 2009 8:50 am
What an interesting thread. I am quite ignorant of some of these things. When I read this I wondered if the answer to this was that liturgical isn't the same...
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asteresplanetai
Feb 3, 2009 5:37 am
+++ hi. i didn't think to announce this ahead of time, and i should have. I really regret i couldn't go, but at least all the speeches are posted ... Robert F....
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asteresplanetai
Feb 3, 2009 5:00 am
... no, not exactly that there is "a certain objective reality to liturgy" but simply a question of the common definition of the word. keeping in mind that the...
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Bosco Peters
bosco_petersnz
Feb 2, 2009 10:32 pm
Greetings I am trying an experiment in sharing reflections on the Sunday Readings. You can add your insights to the Sunday readings of the lectionary: ...
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Pastor Art Hebbeler
pastorhebbeler
Feb 2, 2009 2:02 pm
I believe the real answer to how many swings is relative to the height of ceiling and proximity to the smoke detectors. Obviously, it's a slow time for all of...
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David Waller
dawuk2001
Feb 2, 2009 10:26 am
The Ceremonial of Bishops says that the incense is to be blessed. I have wondered the same myself for some time. If you watch EWTN, you will see three triples,...
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MMonty
mmontyau
Feb 2, 2009 10:23 am
Nah! Waste of time Lew. The question has already been decided. Answer: An infinite number. Sorry, couldn't resist that. Having read only half of the numerous...
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Lewis Whitaker
lhwatl
Feb 2, 2009 2:06 am
When we settle this, can we debate the number of angels on the heads of pins? Lew...
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dlewisaao@...
Feb 2, 2009 2:03 am
My friend saw the 3 triples on EWTN. I can now find some "authority" for this on Wikipedia, but I think it is based on the GIRM (277) calling for 3 swings...
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Sean & Kenra Reed
skreed2002
Feb 2, 2009 1:01 am
I have wondered the same myself for some time. If you watch EWTN, you will see three triples, and also the priest blessing incense in the presence of the...
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Douglas Cowling
cowling.douglas@...
Feb 1, 2009 11:29 pm
... When in doubt, get a 6-foot censer on 50 ft ropes and start swinging ... Doug Cowling Director of Music St. Philip's Church, Etobicoke Toronto...
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dlewisaao@...
Feb 1, 2009 9:53 pm
Years ago I heard that the Blessed Sacrament was to get three triple swings when being censed, such as for Exposition or Benediction, but someone pointed out...
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Thomas R Jackson
ignatios2000
Feb 1, 2009 12:03 pm
John, I guess I would turn the question around and ask you what you mean by "liturgical". If I understand you correctly, then you are ascribing a certain...
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Andrew Doohan
andpetdoo
Feb 1, 2009 9:47 am
By the time I joined the conversation I'd already completed all my Sunday Masses - and only had Evening Prayer to come. One of the benefits of being closer to...
