Christmas Pageants are anonther occasion for this particular parish priest to display the fixed grin and glazed look that I get when I am having to do things I...
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Janet Roth
jproth@...
Jan 1, 2007 9:49 pm
Peter, I am sorry that you hate (or think you do) Christmas pageants. Far from being considered "cute" in my parish, the pageant is considered to be a...
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James Morgan
rdrjames
Jan 2, 2007 1:21 am
I know this is a bit off-topic, but it is a wonderful article that was posted on another list that I thought was worth sharing. Gives a good presentation of ...
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Michael T. Hiller
hillermichael
Jan 2, 2007 4:47 am
Available on http://www.hillerleiturgia.com, for Sunday bulletins, and brief commentary on the readings from the Eucharistic Lectionary. -- The Rev. Mr....
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L. Sissel
father.lee
Jan 2, 2007 6:12 am
Available on http://www.hillerle iturgia.com, for Sunday bulletins, and brief commentary on the readings from the Eucharistic Lectionary. The Rev. Mr. Michael...
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frpeterdr@...
frpdr
Jan 3, 2007 12:57 am
My antipathy to Christmas Pageants is a bit out of character, as I like mediaeval mystery plays, and the old carols. I often wonder if my antipathy would...
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Mark Preece
mwpmwp
Jan 3, 2007 2:58 pm
I too have an ambiguous relationship with the pageant. My 4pm family Christmas Eve eucharist (with pageant) is threatening to become the whole Christmas...
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theodore lorah
theodorelorah
Jan 3, 2007 3:58 pm
... Don't you have the Eucharist at the candle light service? I am also unsure what the "family Eucharist" is. Eucharist I understand, but it is in the...
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Mark Preece
mwpmwp
Jan 3, 2007 4:15 pm
Sorry for the confusion. We have two Christmas Eve services, both straight Book of Common Prayer Rite 2 Eucharists. One's at 4pm, with the pageant more-or-less...
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R Drake
hymncat
Jan 4, 2007 1:54 am
All of your points, Mark, are very familiar, and I also am ambivalent about pageants and such (from the perspective of a musician, not a clergy-person). We...
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Janet Roth
jproth@...
Jan 4, 2007 2:10 am
Hi, At what point do you consider that kids have "outgrown"; an early service? Our pageant involves all the young people in the parish -- the high schoolers...
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dlewisaao@...
Jan 4, 2007 2:11 am
In a message dated 1/3/2007 8:57:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hymncat@... writes: All of your points, Mark, are very familiar, and I also am ...
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R Drake
hymncat
Jan 4, 2007 3:18 am
Janet, you ask about 'outgrowing' the early service. In our context, that would probably be around age 13 or so, since the presentation of the service is...
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frpeterdr@...
frpdr
Jan 4, 2007 2:51 pm
Dear Mark, I am far more concerned with theology and literary quality than the mediaeval thing, though as an conservative Anglo-Catholic, I have to admit that...
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Frank Senn
fcsenn
Jan 4, 2007 9:30 pm
I have written a couple of plays rather than pageants that the kids could do during the sermon time on the Fourth Sunday in Advent. The plays are correlated...
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James
jarp198604
Jan 5, 2007 9:01 am
Group, Could all of you please provide me with links to various collections of liturgies, especially ones from the Early Church, the Middle Ages, and the...
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Bob Eldan
eldanbob
Jan 5, 2007 4:54 pm
I am in a rural parish in Wyoming. For several years we had our pageant as the liturgy of the word during our Epiphany Eucharist held in the evening of...
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Tom Poelker
tapoelker
Jan 6, 2007 8:19 pm
... Can anyone provide some practical guidance on the working range of population for a liturgical parish? Word and song congregations can grow quite large...
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John Seboldt
rohrwerk@...
Jan 7, 2007 3:14 am
Just a few miles from me is this newly-built church for an ancient tradition - St. Mary and St. Antonious (sic) Coptic Orthodox Church. The paper had some...
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Scott Knitter
scottknitter@...
Jan 7, 2007 5:01 am
It's not unusual to find Roman Catholic parishes eight to ten times larger than some of the large Episcopal ones. The largest parish in the Diocese of South...
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James Morgan
rdrjames
Jan 7, 2007 7:21 am
Orthodox parishes vary greatly in size. The 'maximum' that should be served by one priest (visiting, hearing the confessions, providing pastoral care, having...
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James Morgan
rdrjames
Jan 7, 2007 8:18 am
We also have a large beautiful Coptic church in the north Seattle area. It will be consecrated in the spring by Pope Shenouda. Their priest is a member of the...
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frpeterdr@...
frpdr
Jan 8, 2007 1:53 am
The smallest parish in this diocese that has a full time rector has 62 members, but it is reasonably well heeled being in Orange County. My parish is slightly...
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Janet Roth
jproth@...
Jan 8, 2007 2:13 am
... Just out of curiosity, Do you manage to keep to 30 hours a week? Janet R (who when she subs for the parish secretary does not manage to keep to the six...
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James
jarp198604
Jan 8, 2007 2:30 am
Peter+, Honestly, when it comes to the work of the church, there is no such thing as a "part-time priest" or "part-time secretary." Priests can receive...
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dlewisaao@...
Jan 8, 2007 2:39 am
In a message dated 1/7/2007 8:54:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, frpeterdr@... writes: The smallest parish in this diocese that has a full time rector...
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Jan J.H.Hofland
hofland22
Jan 8, 2007 3:10 am
Dear Janet, I know (from experience - not personal) that part-time church pastors and other paid part-time church workers are, in fact, being exploited. Due to...
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mjthannisch
Jan 8, 2007 3:40 am
In beginning congregations in both TEC an my present church we have managed to have regular liturgical worship with as few as three. Eight seems to be the...
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L. Sissel
father.lee
Jan 8, 2007 6:50 am
Interesting discussion here. I have lived in a tourist area where we had a large Church in the summer months made up largely of seasonal employees but were...
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DJP4LAW@...
closer310
Jan 8, 2007 2:36 pm
I note with interest that the church has pews. I am surprised by that. Should I be? I know of other Orthodox churches that have pews, but I understood that...
