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liturgy-l · Liturgy-l is an ecumenical group for discussion and study of Christian liturgy and worship. It is open to all denominations.

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  • Category: Theology
  • Founded: May 16, 2000
  • Language: English
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Hello all, Re. ICEL: I am amazed that ICEL's translations would be adopted by those who do not have to adopt them. Even the Catholics are moving away from...
63 Dec 6, 2003
7:39 am

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In a message dated 12/5/03 2:20:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, oblate21@... writes: << But, unless I've missed something. . . It's December, and we ...
6 Dec 6, 2003
6:11 am

Michael Joe Thannisch
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Scott Knitter wrote: <<I like to hear some effort made to treat the Gospel of the day as a story, in a context, not just a selection of verses from which may...
18 Dec 6, 2003
4:50 am

Michael Joe Thannisch
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Gregory, His Curmudgeonliness penned, Message: 10 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:49:09 -0000 From: "Gregory Holmes Singleton" <G-Singleton@...> Subject: WE...
1 Dec 6, 2003
1:56 am

Jim Lattie
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I'd like to start some discussion om Gregory Dix' Shape of the Liturgy. The four action plan seems to predominate in Anglican ande Lutheran thought. What about...
91 Dec 5, 2003
11:59 pm

Mar Johannes Ephrem
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I have been considering posting this for some time, and now I feel like it might be an interesting time (given our recent lively discussions) to propose a...
1 Dec 5, 2003
12:38 pm

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... I own a copy of the ASB (and I think a similar lectionary is found in the 1984 Irish Alternative Prayer Book), and while I find the material, uh. . . ...
7 Dec 5, 2003
7:11 am

Cody C. Unterseher
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Hi , I heardthis carol this morning for the first timeand I like it. However I am having a thick moment (I have a lot of those it seems) and for the life of me...
2 Dec 4, 2003
10:41 pm

Joseph Cunningham
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Dear Kenneth, The first was the ASB 1980 Calendar which abandoned the thousand year old sequence of collects, epistles and gospels for a new set. It also ...
4 Dec 4, 2003
12:16 pm

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"The Christian Church sings. It is not a choral society. Its singing is not a concert. Singing is the highest form of human expression. . . What we can and...
1 Dec 4, 2003
12:18 am

Bob White
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I really must depreciate any further tinkering with the liturgical year. We have had two major changes in the Calendar in the Church of England in the last...
2 Dec 2, 2003
7:25 pm

Kenneth Doll
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Some of the comments made on recent threads lead me to believe that there is confusion about the current system of developing and approving translations of the...
1 Dec 2, 2003
6:13 pm

Thomas R. Jackson
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One wonders just how representative of English Church music of the early 18th century Handel might be. Maurice Green and other respectable native born...
3 Dec 1, 2003
11:23 pm

Douglas Cowling
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Handel wrote a limited amount of Church music for the Duke of Chandos, Queen Anne, and George. I think the best know pieces today are the Utrecht "Te Deum"...
2 Dec 1, 2003
7:14 pm

michael scargill
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Blessed be God. ... you seem to assume that 'and with your spirit' was ever a common greeting. it was not. in fact it was always reserved to persons ordained...
9 Dec 1, 2003
6:04 am

James O'Regan
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Message: 12 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:29:55 -0500 From: "Robert M. Gross" <grossrm@...> Subject: RE: Re: All Gas and Gaiters American presidents...
5 Nov 30, 2003
3:55 am

john19@...
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In preparing for an LPM (Leadership Program for Musicians) on Music and the liturgy, and entering a territory about which I know little more than what I like...
1 Nov 30, 2003
12:59 am

Bob White
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Archbishop Geoffrey Fisher was addicted to them. Archbishop Ramsey didn't care for the old uniform and started wearing the purple cassock for everything...
28 Nov 29, 2003
3:20 pm

Art Hebbeler
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Blessed be God. ... this is a time-honored tradition. in this line it might be interesting that in pre-Revolutionary Russia, the clerical estate had just as...
2 Nov 28, 2003
6:00 pm

Thomas R. Jackson
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I think there is a lot of wisdom in the old BCP rubric "And it is desireable that the Bread be the best and purest that conveniently may be gotten". I would...
3 Nov 28, 2003
4:14 pm

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Blessed be God. ... I am struck by the similarity between this getup and that worn by some rebbes of some sects of hasidim (others go with the frock coat, but ...
3 Nov 28, 2003
2:34 pm

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(Long post -- skip over or browse if desired. :) Some of my observed experiences with the bread used in the eucharist cause me either to suppress giggles or...
1 Nov 27, 2003
10:52 pm

Jim Lattie
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When I used the expression 'State Dress' was thinking of the equivalent of a layman's Morning Dress or Evening Dress. In former times, the frock coat, apron...
1 Nov 27, 2003
10:33 pm

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Correction: I meant 18th century - but mistyped. None were dancing Gavotte at court anymore during 19th cent. Sorry ! In Christ +JE ... From: "Mar Johannes...
2 Nov 27, 2003
10:29 pm

john19@...
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Actually cassocks were little worn in the Church of England in the period 1750 to 1900. Bishops wore apron and gaiters, and put on their rochet and chimere...
5 Nov 27, 2003
5:44 pm

Simon Kershaw
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Hi folks, well, since we have had a lot of descriptions of bread today, let's see if anyone wants to share some recipies. We had the specific complaint today...
24 Nov 27, 2003
5:22 pm

Michael Joe Thannisch
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Hmm, do we connect earthiness with humility? Shalom in Yeshua ha Moshiach Michael Joe Thannisch mjthan@... The beginning of wisdom is fear of the Lord. ...
1 Nov 27, 2003
4:56 am

Michael Joe Thannisch
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Well, while we are all having fun debating blue for advent, I wanted to bring up another topic that often gets a bit warm under the collar. How far can one go...
11 Nov 27, 2003
4:56 am

Michael Joe Thannisch
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Pardon my ignorance but can someone direct me to a source for the ICEL texts? My thanks in advance. Joseph +...
10 Nov 25, 2003
7:25 pm

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My copy of the new Book of Divine Worship arrived today. It's the liturgy of the Anglican Use parishes in the Roman Catholic Church. My, it's thick! Imagine...
4 Nov 25, 2003
1:37 pm

Scott Knitter
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