As a used-to-be social and cultural historian (now a mindless administrator and sometime intellectual historian), I am interested in the informal dynamics that...
Gregory "Both Dumb and Dumber" Singleton wrote: <<. . .the Winter Term 1958. I was in my Junior year in college.>> My concern for accuracy and my vanity both...
Having just returned from two weeks of family funerals, having having had considerable contact with funeral homes in the past, and having seen the month old ...
Blessed be God. ... Well, you must not have been paying close attention to several threads over the past year or so. I think I've mentioned this at least three...
... I believe that the initial assumption in 2001 was that the synods would "self enforce" the requirement. I _think_ that whoever presides at the installation...
Dear Greg, I too have found music to be a unifier. In the early 80's we (St. James Episcopal) decided to swap choirs with St. James RC). We never actually...
... The "Installation of a Bishop" (Occasional Services, p. 218ff.) does not anywhere mention laying on of hands. A pectoral cross may have been given as a...
An observation/question from an RC perspective: It seems a bishop in the ELCA is conceived of as a pastor overseer, rather than one who receives the fullness...
... Yikes! The "fullness of the priesthood of Jesus Christ" ? I think that even the most hierarchical, monarchical theology of orders would assert that the...
Douglas Cowling
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Jul 2, 2003 2:57 am
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... That's an interesting question. By and large the proponents of CCM argued that while it changes the rites of "installation" and brings ELCA bishops into...
... Dare I say that the rite is insufficient? Yes, I dare say it. A pectoral cross is not a sign of the office, at least in the Lutheran church. A crozier and...
... The rite referenced is not the one currently used. The point made was that the HE and laying on of hands would not have have been an issue prior to 2001,...
... OK--perhaps we could have them set into chalices, crosses, and other liturgical implements so that the light of the blessed dead continues to reflect on...
... It is exactly this line of thinking that horrifies the anti-bishop people in the Lutheran churches - that the bishops see themselves as some enjoying "the...
Ray Gadke
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Jul 2, 2003 2:09 pm
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In a message dated 7/2/2003 10:10:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ... The word "priest" comes from the New Testament word "presbyteros" - elder. It is an office...
In a message dated 7/1/2003 9:31:05 PM Central Standard Time, ... Three responses: 1. A bishop is a pastoral overseer. 2. Each ELCA bishop, like every other...
fcsenn@...
Jul 2, 2003 2:37 pm
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I have just finished teaching a course on "Death and Dying," a writing course, at Temple University and am at this moment bogged down grading finals, so the...
Theodore R. Lorah, Jr.
lorah@...
Jul 2, 2003 3:32 pm
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... While I am surely not acquainted with all bishops everywhere, I find that such a reaction to the episcopacy to be quite unfounded-at least as much as if...
But again, the "priesthood of all believers" is not in conflict with an understanding that bishops, priests, and deacons are set aside for specific ministries....
Theodore R. Lorah, Jr.
lorah@...
Jul 2, 2003 3:38 pm
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I am unfamiliar with the idea of a bishop possessing "the fullness of the Priesthood of Jesus Christ". Can any one expand on the origins of this formulation?...
... If I recall correctly, several ecumenical statements dealing with this topic say that bishops and presbyters (and maybe deacons) possess or share in the ...
... think that ... assert that ... baptism into ... Perhaps I should have put that phrase into quotation marks. But it is the "official" theology of the RCC. ...
... other ... continues ... Why bother with having the diamond made, when you can do that already, with a tooth, a chip of bone, or even a hunk of flesh? ...
... I'm not sure the expression is being used in the sense we've been discussing. In the passage above, is not the ordinand being asked to carry out all of...
Douglas Cowling
dcowling@...
Jul 2, 2003 4:46 pm
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... Ormonde, does this three-fold distinction between "priesthoods" really resonate in scripture and tradition? I guess I have the most trouble with the...
Douglas Cowling
dcowling@...
Jul 2, 2003 4:47 pm
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... The priesthood of Christ is unique, since only Christ died on the cross. The priesthood of all believers "shares" in that priesthood much as we share in ...
Totally amazing! Shalom in Yeshua Ha Moshiach Michael Joe Thannisch mjthan@... http://www.excelir.com/mjthannisch http://episcopalanglicanresources.com ...
Due to some inappropriate content placed in the links page of elca-l, I have changed the setting on the files, links (bookmarks) and photo pages for liturgy-l...
Here's a light news article for the American Independence Day holiday weekend that might amuse the members ofd this liturgy-list. Subject: FW: Bishops Boil...
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