In a message dated 2/28/03 7:29:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, mrteacher4034@... writes: << What do those who use the term "Tridentistas" or "Tridentines"...
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Mar 1, 2003 11:38 am
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Pope Invites Archbishop of Canterbury to Keep Up Efforts for Unity On Occasion of Anglican Primate's Solemn Enthronement VATICAN CITY, FEB. 28, 2003...
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Mar 1, 2003 11:52 am
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... I am amused (maybe) that my somewhat lighthearted comment on "plate" and "cup" has caused such a fuss and initiated perhaps the longest thread in several...
... My understanding was that this change was being encouraged for a good reason. The "celebrant" is the one who "celebrates", and the one who is celebrating...
In a letter to you, Ormonde, I wrote: "Why on earth would you want to do this, Ormonde?" Your answer was clear and thought-provoking. Thank you. Sandford...
In a message dated 3/1/03 9:34:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, nathan@... writes: << My understanding was that this change was being encouraged for a...
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Mar 1, 2003 3:25 pm
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from the London Times reviews of religious rites. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3933-594875,00.html Bob + + + + + + + + + + + To listen to some...
Interesting to recall that the Liturgy (i.e.Mass) is also celebrated without a congregation and is every bit as valid when done this way (missae sine cum...
... celebrated ... Even when this option is used, and it is clear from its rubrics and from Canon Law that it is to be used only in the most sparing fashion,...
... Hmmm. This may happen, and sometimes it does unfortunately, but, THAT KIND of Liturgy IS NOT a valid one actually, at least not according to the teaching...
... Actually, under Catholic law, this is not really the case. Under former Catholic Canon law, celebrating Mass without a server (interestingly, with or...
... Is this really true? Under what canons? the reason that I ask is that a few years back I had the pleasure and privilege of hearing Bishop Kallistos Ware...
... These two paragraphs are identical, I think, except in the matter of what is valid or not. When invoking canon law, it is always a good idea to cite the...
... I think it is always a questionable methodology to use the list of things that have been tolerated to serve as a primary source for liturgical theology....
... stones on ... I agree wholeheartedly with Nathan here. If the necessity were to arise wherein an individual presbyter were to celebrate the Eucharist ...
In a message dated 2/28/2003 8:36:21 AM Central Standard Time, ... The only reference I know of is Justin Martyr's First Apology. It is unique. I've always...
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Mar 2, 2003 3:18 am
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... Not really identical, unless I very much misunderstood the original posting. It was asserted that in previous law that a Mass without a server was illicit...
In a message dated 2/28/2003 8:56:29 AM Central Standard Time, ... While the distinction between sacred and secular was not so clear in ancient societies as it...
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Mar 2, 2003 3:29 am
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In a message dated 2/28/2003 12:55:43 PM Central Standard Time, ... I thought the passover sacrifice was a meal? FCSenn [Non-text portions of this message have...
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Mar 2, 2003 3:38 am
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In a message dated 2/28/2003 2:23:31 PM Central Standard Time, ... The altar has a mensa---a table. The design changed from what looked like a table to a tomb...
fcsenn@...
Mar 2, 2003 3:46 am
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... I really think that if one is invoking church law in an argument that it behoves one to cite the law and demonstrate the support of that law to a position....
... This is getting pretty tiresome and silly James. hat is "licit" is what is legal. If the law provides for a particular action, then it is "licit". Did...
Brings back memories. The altar stone (I forget the name of the thing) in Proteccion, Honduras, supposedly has a piece of the cross in it. I was not supposed...
Hi thomas and Liturgists, IMO the real problem, at least pastorally if not theologically, is WHO makes the decision about what is a "just and reasonable cause"...
I thought the passover sacrifice was a meal? FCSenn During the Temple period, wouldn't the lamb be sacrificed by the priests at the altar, then the Israelites...
... I have got the impression that sacrifices are usually also meals. Barbara D. Colt, mailto:babc2@... St John the Evangelist, San Francisco From envy,...
B. D. Colt
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Mar 2, 2003 1:22 pm
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The Samaritans still sacrifice the Passover Lamb on mount Gezarim to this day and following the directives in Exodus eat the meal standing with sandals on...
You are right. All the sacrifices except (I think, being too lazy to dig my Bible out and look) sin offerings, involved eating the victim after sacrificing...
... That's not what I wrote although I plead guilty to silliness from time to time.. I wrote that if invoking church law for a position, cite the law and show...
James quoted me, and then responded ... What you wrote, James, as I quoted in my response to you, was: "What was not defined in either position was the matter...
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