ello Everyone,<br><br>After reviewing the
proceedings book from the 1998 USA/Canada Lions Leadership
forum, I found some
errors.<br><br>"www.crl.com/msmith/forum" should be "<a
href=http://www.crl.com/~msmith/forum
target=new>http://www.crl.com/~msmith/forum</a>". The
tilde "~" was not printed in the book.<br><br>"www
0.lionsclubs.org/lion" should be "<a href=http://www.lionsclubs.org
target=new>http://www.lionsclubs.org</a>".<br><br>The
rest of the links are correct.<br><br>I am sorry for
any confusion this may have caused. If you have any
other comments or corrections, please contact me at
msmith@....<br><br>Warmest Regards,<br><br>Lion Matt Smith<br>1998
USA/Canada Forum Beginning Internet Presenter

att Smith, (Matt_MoonChild_Smith), who was
moderator of the Internet Seminar at the USA/Canada Forum
has made a web page for all to get his Internet
Seminar Guide for Begineers. This booklet explains it
all. Just about every form of communication can be
used by Lions leaders with a little imagination. Great
job Lion Matt.<br>Check it out at
<a href=http://www.crl.com./~msmith/forum/
target=new>http://www.crl.com./~msmith/forum/</a>

here will be a special ICQ Chat for all Lions at ICQ #13915139 on Sunday October
4th 1998 at 8 PM Eastern time.  I will be there and invite other Lions.

ello, my mother Bernice Olson is a member of the
Harbor-Mesa Lions in Costa Mesa, Calif. Bee is a bit computer
challanged, so I, her daughter, work the computer stuff for
her. I am not a Lion, but I do a lot of volinteering
on the 4L4 sight and hearing van as it goes from
school to school to check the hearing of the students.

LFREDA, HAS YOUR PRESIDENT EVER BEEN SECRETARY?
TAKE HIM ASIDE AND REMIND HIM THAT A PRESIDENT IS ONLY
AS GOOD AS HIS/HER SECRETARY AND THAT FELT IT WAS IN
THE CLUBS BEST INTEREST THAT YOU DID WHAT YOU DID.
YOU MAY WHAT TO TALK ABOUT THIS WITH THE 1ST VICE,
MAYBE HE/SHE COULD ALSO TALK TO THE PRESIDENT.
REMINDER, CONFLICT INSIDE THE CLUB COULD BRING THE CLUB
DOWN..BILL.LEDYARDREC@...

hanks to those Lions who responded to my post with helpful suggestions. I
appreciate it!<br>Lion ElFreda

'm a U of A graduate.  It's a pleasure to find someone from Alabama on the
net.My name is Glenda Pinoargote, my Lions Club is Salinas Central, Guayas,
Ecuador. S.A.

ellow Lions, I'm having serious problems dealing
with my club's president. He has told me, in front of
other members, I might add, that I should stay in my
place. I'm club secretary, and he believes I've
encroached on his job. The only reason this may be so is
because he has not done his job, and I've tried to help
out as best I could. My apology is not good enough,
it seems, because he keeps treating me like a
servant. (I know, "We Serve" but this is ridiculous!) How
have you handled personal conflicts such as this one?
It is really tearing me up, and I need some advice.
Thanks.<br>In Lionism,<br>elfreda_c

etting up a web page for your club is not only a
great means of promotion for your club, it can also be
a great means of communication.<br><br>If you have
members at large, or who can't always attend meetings,
putting details of upcoming projects on your web page
will ensure that they are able to access club
information (provided of course that they have internet
access). It also allows neighbouring clubs to keep each
other aware of what they are doing. It gives you a
chance to share your clubs successes and problems with
others, something that often only happens at
Conventions.<br><br>In terms of promotion, Lions Clubs on the Internet
may encourage younger people to join. Our Lions
population is an aging one, and unless younger members are
encouraged and actively sought, the organisation will die
along with its members.<br><br>In terms of fundraising,
advertising of fundraising events is one means. Another may
be to sell advertising space on your site to
corporations. This isn't possible with Geocities or the other
free web page services, although Geocities does allow
ads for Amazon.Com and CDNOW and you get a certain
percentage for any purchases made as a result of someone
going there from your site.<br><br>Even if your club
doesn't feel that it would be of great benefit to
establish a web page, it certainly couldn't hurt, could
it?<br><br>Nicole O'Brien<br>President<br>Deer Park and District
Leo Club 201V2<br>Immediate Past
President<br>Victorian State Leo Council
201V<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/1888
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/1888</a>

OD meeeting is after the club meeting, we lose
members. They've already been there 2-3 hours and want to
go home. <br><br>If the BOD meeting is before the
club meeting, we didn't get many because people
weren't home from work or needed time to relax before
going to meeting. Also, they would get drinks from the
bar and it was very social and hard to get down to
business.<br><br>Maybe, and only maybe, would i suggest it if there is
something of a serious, emergency nature that you want
their backing or input on before something goes before
the membership.<br><br>I'ld suggest have separate
meetings, but keep them short. Don't allow long ongoing
discussions that go nowhere! One key to watch for is when an
idea or opinion starts getting repeated by either the
same member or others start repeating it. Ask for new
fresh, different viewpoints.

ere are some suggestions that can benefit your
club membership.<br><br>1. Use the internet as a
communication tool between members. Post newsletters for the
membership to preview, that they can go back to and browse
in their leisure. Post a calendar of meetings and
committee activity dates, so a member has a place to look.
The printed newsletter was lost long ago.<br><br>2.
Attract new members to your club. Being on the internet
is a sign that your club is a growing force in the
community and not a stagnant old club in town. Younger
members (30-50) will be attracted by the use of the newer
technology.<br><br>3. Inform your own community of your activities. Ask
your local area webpages to provide a permanent link
your club's page, so people in town can see the club's
accomplishments.<br><br>4. Hold an online meeting just once on a Sunday
evening or other time at any one of a dozen places on the
internet. Plan it about a month in advance and invite Lions
from anywhere to join in as a visitor. The online
meeting will give your members some great ideas. (Try to
limit the discussion about a specific topic.)<br><br>5.
An actual fundraising project can be held online. A
club in Georgia recently held an online six week
fundraiser with links at several other internet locations.
They had responses from 30 states, and earned a few
thousand dollars.<br><br>6. Online advertising of your
events may not provide very many visitors now in 1998,
but since the internet is nearly free, now is the
time to develop a presence on the internet in
preparation for a future where the internet is available in
every home.<br><br>How does the District benefit?<br>In
many more ways:<br>1. Increased communication between
leaders and clubs.<br>2. Preparation for the eventual
online Club M & A reporting.<br>3. Coordination of
District, Multiple District functions.<br><br>Lion Dan
Uitti

hen I brought it up about starting a Web page -
the guys just said just do it (as long as it doesn't
cost anything). For tips visit our Connecticut Lions
Page - this Yahoo site is free as well and you can
open a "club" specific for your club and link from
there to freeebee pages at geocities, angelfire, and
others

have a few suggestions for lions online to
discuss:<br><br>How to use the internet to benefit the
club?<br><br>How do I convince my club the importance of a webpage
for contact and fundraising? <br><br>Ed
Smith<br>CyberLion<br>El Coqui Lions Club, Bronx, NY

und Raisers? An annual Pumpkin Sale nets $500.
An annual Eye Research letter with town wide mailing
nets $4 or $5 thousand = restricted funds. A recent
raffle of a Harley Davidson was a GREAT success, netted
$8+ thousand.<br><br>Board Meetings: to have or not
to have during regular meetings? Feedback please.

id-South Lions provides sight and hearing care
to needy people from Arkansas, Mississippi, Missouri
and west Tennessee at no charge to the patient. Lions
Clubs sponsor patients at no charge. E-mail me for more
info on this Lions Service Project.

ello to Lions Worldwide from North Bay Lions
Club of Santa Rosa, California (50 miles north of San
Francisco).<br><br> Let's make this a lively and productive board and
chat area.<br><br> Our club aways welcomes ideas for
new fund raisers; who will begin some
suggestions?<br><br>Lion Jim Tillman<br>2nd VP

reetings all.....<br><br>Thanks for setting this
up, those responsible. Great idea.....<br><br>Having
looked at the postings I believe it is time this group
discussed a serious subject. Any suggestions on what we
should begin with?

hat Lions chorale sounds fun. So far , our club
has not sung a lot, but we are in the process of
setting up a Barbershop group with four of us that are
experienced choristers - although none of us have done b/s
before! We are hoping we can put together a repertoire
that we can take around other Clubs and some of the
local old-folks' homes.<br>Lion Tom

am also interested in this topic. I hear that
at the USA/Canada Leadership Forum, they have a
Lions chorale. This year it is in Lexington, KY. I wish
I could go. Does your club sing a lot? Is there any
special songs that can get members excited about Lionism?
Glad to see other Lions with similar interests in this
club.Lion ElFreda

hese Yahoo! clubs are a great idea. I belong to
one that caters for my choral music interests and
have had several opportunities for sharing info - both
ways. I'm sure this one will be just as helpful. Thanks
for starting it up.<br><br>Lion Tom

his site is a great idea hope to use it many times<br>Thanks<br>Lion Durk

his is a great idea. I am a member of the Puxico Lions Club and currently a zone
chairman. Keep me informed!

reeting from East Hartford.  Great Idea!

think this internet site is a great idea! I am
a new Lions Club member(less than a year) I am also
the webmaster for my Club, Tumwater Lions and I have
a lot to learn. I look forword to making new
friends and learning from the wisdom of my fellow
Lions.<br> By His Grace<br> Lion Mike Karns

reetings to Lions and Leos throughout the
world.<br><br>This message board looks like a good idea. I hope it
is used frequently to promote communication between
members of our organisation throughout the
world.<br><br>Yours in Leoism,<br><br>Leo Nicole O'Brien<br>Deer Park
and District Leo Club 201V2

ello to all fellow Lions from Indiana

ellow Lions Online,<br><br>I am writing to you
on behalf of a family who recently visited our club.
Ginno is an 8 yr old boy who needs an organ transplant.
Our club has raised a few thousand dollars for him
already and still tapping other sources since the
operation is $150,000. As long as the contribution is from
your heart it is never to small. Please view the
following webpage for information about this urgent matter
and how you can help.<br><br>Thankyou<br>Edward J.P.
Smith<br>Cyberlion, El Coqui Lions International
Club<br><br><a href=http://www.thefuturesite.com/catman/lions.html
target=new>http://www.thefuturesite.com/catman/lions.html</a>

ood to see another Lions message board.

think that most people on the Internet know about Yahoo.  With the new club
setup at Yahoo, Lions can enjoy meeting others here.<br><br>Lion Bill, great job
getting this started.<br><br>- Lion Dan

Welcome, This is the Yahoo! Message Board for Lions Club  community.