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9842 Colin
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May 1, 2004
8:33 am
Could someone remind me what exactly CLD was doing in Guildford? I vaguely recall some sort of association.....(hope I'm right on that....). Just that it's...
9843 mikeindex2001 Offline Send Email May 1, 2004
10:17 am
Someone recently suggested that Cohen and Leach should not be read by beginners because they were too inaccurate compared to Christine Bjork and Stephanie...
9844 mikeindex2001 Offline Send Email May 1, 2004
10:27 am
LC's father was rector of Croft-on-Tees, in Yorkshire, and his death in 1868 made the whole family effectively homeless since the rectory they had lived was...
9845 mikeindex2001 Offline Send Email May 1, 2004
11:07 am
correction of course - LC died in 1898, NOT 1868. Don't all write at once or the bandwidth will explode cheers Mike ... death ... rectory ... LC's ... ...
9846 pleasanceone Offline Send Email May 1, 2004
11:58 am
I think Mike's observation about the number of maids is interesting. Was there a customary number servants that the different levels of society were expected...
9847 Keith Wright
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May 1, 2004
12:00 pm
Mike, I posted the fact that Cohen and Leach are not for beginners but you have misrepresented what I said. Cohen's book, like all books, does contain...
9848 Keith Wright
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May 1, 2004
12:05 pm
Deb, the best way to see what they did is to read their obituaries, one of least I thought had been published on this list. If not I'll try and find it for ...
9849 mikeindex2001 Offline Send Email May 1, 2004
12:34 pm
Thanks for that clarification Keith. Does anyone else know of any source for the Dodo's being inspired by the one in the Science Museum? Or indeed for CLD's...
9850 Colin
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May 1, 2004
12:38 pm
Thanks. Is it open to the public? Colin ... lewiscarroll@yahoogroups.com, "mikeindex2001" ... Croft-on-Tees, in Yorkshire, and his death ... effectively...
9851 Keith Wright
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May 1, 2004
1:18 pm
Mike, I'd be interested in the census return you mentioned and any you did not mention as well! I'm fairly sure the Liddell kids visited the museum with LC but...
9852 Colin
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May 1, 2004
2:23 pm
Last time I looked the Dodo was in the Natural History Museum, not the Science Museum.... Great Works of literature which feature Dodos: Alice in Wonderland ...
9853 Karen Stahl
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May 1, 2004
2:57 pm
Colin, I visited Guildford last Fall (I live in the US), and no, the house isn't open to the public. I'm sure others on this list that are more local, or who...
9854 Jlsperanza@... Send Email May 1, 2004
3:02 pm
In a message dated 5/1/2004 4:34:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, c.forcey@... writes: Just that it's only a short journey by train from where I live and I...
9855 Arne Moll
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May 1, 2004
4:49 pm
You should definitely visit Guildford. The cemetery is lovely (although quite walk uphill), and of course a visit to 'The Chestnuts' is mandatory. Also, it's a...
9856 Jlsperanza@... Send Email May 1, 2004
4:58 pm
... From the Oxford University Museum of Natural History's official site: http://www.oum.ox.ac.uk/alice.htm "Alice Liddell's father was Dean of Christ Church ...
9857 Keith Wright
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May 1, 2004
6:06 pm
If anyone visits guildford they should obtain the Guildford Castle Guide book. In my edition there is an aerial view which goes across the back an front cover...
9858 Keith Wright
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May 1, 2004
6:19 pm
Diary 4 page 169 February 1863 Aliceand Edith Liddell plus governess were taken to the museum by Dodgson. He took other folk there also including Isa Bowman in...
9859 Colin
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May 1, 2004
11:44 pm
Thanks for info Karen and co. I will check it out and give my impressions in this forum. All I need now is a Cheshire Cat T shirt and a copy of Jonathan...
9860 mikeindex2001 Offline Send Email May 2, 2004
11:26 am
Thanks to both Keith and JL for the information. The trouble with the information from the museum is that it isn't firsthand - it's probably just taken from...
9861 mikeindex2001 Offline Send Email May 2, 2004
11:30 am
I don't have the census, Karoline does, but I will ask her for it. In the meantime, my recollection is that there were two or three maids plus a cook resident...
9862 Colin
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May 2, 2004
11:48 am
I'm getting confused with all these Dodos. I know there is one in the Natural History Museum, London, but wasn't aware of the one in Oxford. How many Dodos are...
9863 Keith Wright
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May 2, 2004
11:49 am
Mike, it's certainly not Christina Bjork's story as it was circulating before she wrote her book. Mavis Batey goes a long way towards the Dodo legend in her ...
9864 Keith Wright
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May 2, 2004
11:57 am
Colin, I don't know how many there are but we have one close to Daresbury in a LC exhibition! I have a photo of it somewhere. All reconstructions are...
9865 mikeindex2001 Offline Send Email May 2, 2004
12:15 pm
Keith - thanks for that useful research. So, it looks as if Mavis Batey might be the source of this whole idea. Yes, it would be quite interesting to ask her...
9866 Keith Wright
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May 2, 2004
12:51 pm
I think we have to disgard our notions of private space - it wasn't like that in the 19c especially for the domestic help. It was worse at Daresbury where...
9867 Jlsperanza@... Send Email May 2, 2004
3:08 pm
... From the amazon.com info on "Dodo: A Brief History" ... -- and I think that means at the Oxford University Museum? In any case, the references to the dodo...
9868 Karoline Leach
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May 2, 2004
6:54 pm
I was just half-watching a documentary on BBC television about Anthony Trollope and happened to hear the narrator say that in the Victorian era it was...
9869 Keith Wright
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May 2, 2004
7:29 pm
Not if he considered them still to be children - as some of them said he did! ... From: Karoline Leach To: lewiscarroll@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02,...
9870 Colin
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May 2, 2004
7:47 pm
So, how exactly did CLD address his 'old child friends' and 'married woman friends'? Colin (puzzled - with expression like badly stuffed Dodo) ... ...
9871 jenny2write Offline Send Email May 2, 2004
10:05 pm
... Something like "Hiya Jade" or "Cheers, Cazzie" I should think....
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