I think both Arne and John are right - Sylvie and Bruno _is_ a massively flawed book. Purely technically - it is so poorly constructed it almost makes one...
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Arne Moll
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Apr 2, 2000 12:46 pm
... I agree. In this respect, I guess you can compare it a bit with the "Tales of the Thousand and One Nights". But still, the fact that up till now, almost...
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DOYLE60@...
Apr 2, 2000 3:47 pm
Karoline asks: << Actually, it would be interesting to discover how many of the members of this list, who presumably know and love the 'Alice' books, have read...
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HLebailly@...
Apr 2, 2000 7:06 pm
Dear Arne, Matt, Rich, and other members of the list, Karoline, John and myself seem eventually to have succeeded in convincing you that there was more to the...
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Arne Moll
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Apr 2, 2000 8:38 pm
Dear Hugues, - we seem to be calling each other by first name here - I like that. First of all, let me ask you, I think on behalf of everyone on this list, to...
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mikeindex@...
Apr 2, 2000 9:26 pm
... anything ... Actually it wasn't Collingwood but another of CLD's relations - his younger brother Edwin. What he did was lift out all the fairy episodes,...
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AnisaT@...
Apr 2, 2000 9:57 pm
Subj: Re: [lewiscarroll] Sylvie and Bruno Date: 4/1/00 12:47:10 PM GMT From: KarolineLouise@... Reply-to: lewiscarroll@onelist.com To:...
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AnisaT@...
Apr 2, 2000 10:00 pm
Don't read the abridged version of Sylvie and Bruno - take Karoline's advice and read the whole as a series of (seemingly) disjointed tales and hypothesis!...
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KarolineLouise@...
Apr 2, 2000 10:24 pm
Arne has anticipated many of my points (Arne - you should be an historian), but at risk of repetition, I'll respond to Hugues myself: ... Morton's 1995...
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AnisaT@...
Apr 2, 2000 11:24 pm
Karoline, Further to your S&B comments, something I'd welcome your thoughts/reaction on. You mentioned the structure of the books as being based on esoteric ...
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Paul Janse
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Apr 3, 2000 7:27 am
I have read Sylvie and Bruno. Had to force myself to read on, because I found it very boring. There are some good parts; I particularly like the Gardener's...
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HLebailly@...
Apr 3, 2000 7:39 am
Dear Arne, dear list members, here is the text of the paper I read at the 'Lewis Carroll Phenomenon' international centenary conference at Cardiff university...
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AnisaT@...
Apr 3, 2000 9:03 am
I find the statement 'one cannot use fiction to study facts' a rather uncomfortable piece of phraseology. At one level it is a truism, therefore not worthy of...
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Paul Janse
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Apr 3, 2000 11:18 am
... the ... I did not mean to say (and I did not say, as a matter of fact), that the we should not study the relationship between fact and fiction. I...
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KarolineLouise@...
Apr 3, 2000 3:40 pm
John - Congratulations on a very fine analysis of the role of fiction in biography. I don't feel in any position to discuss Vico or Wimsatt - because I don't ...
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HLebailly@...
Apr 4, 2000 9:25 am
Dear Arne, dear Karoline, dear list-members, I had stated yesterday I woulden’t have time to write any more long letters for some time, and here I am again...
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AnisaT@...
Apr 4, 2000 9:33 am
An open list answer to a private query. I early raised the possibility with the list that the 'three world' structure of S&B may be a linguistic metaphor pace...
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DOYLE60@...
Apr 6, 2000 1:48 pm
... ‘bachelor’ but as a deacon, a Reverend of the Church of England, who did not wish to marry because he preferred living at Christ Church all his...
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Arne Moll
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Apr 6, 2000 9:02 pm
Hello all, I just got my "Shadow of the DreamChild" book back, and while I leafed through it again, I once again saw the reproduced "summary" of the crucial ...
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DOYLE60@...
Apr 7, 2000 2:01 pm
<< And suddenly I saw that *of course* the supposedly 'unreadable' word in the now famous line "he is also supposed [???] to be courting Ina", is: "soon" (or...
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arnemail@...
Apr 7, 2000 2:28 pm
... at home, not here ... unreadable words are. ... else can post it. I ... Well, that's just not what it says... But by the way, Edward Wakeling, the editor...
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KarolineLouise@...
Apr 7, 2000 4:59 pm
I have to express some reservations about the tenor of recent discussion. The data that we have about CL's sexuality portrays a heterosexual man, who was...
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KarolineLouise@...
Apr 7, 2000 6:15 pm
Matt, Arne, and everyone There have been several suggestions for the 'unreadable word', but none entirely satisfactory. When I first found the 'cut pages' doc....
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mikeindex@...
Apr 7, 2000 8:16 pm
I can't say that the mystery word looks much like 'sooner' to me, but then it doesn't look much like anything else either. (Can anyone think of a word ...
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DOYLE60@...
Apr 8, 2000 3:41 pm
... Edward Wakeling, the editor of the Diaries, also thinks it's "by some". Guess they haven't examined it very well :-)> I made it clear I was just guessing....
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HLebailly@...
Apr 9, 2000 7:33 pm
Dear Karoline, dear list members, in haste, two compact responses to Karoline's recent refutations of some of my points (disagreeing with her own views) : I...
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AnisaT@...
Apr 9, 2000 11:43 pm
Hugues, Karoline et al, It does seem to me that any disagreement over the matter of the diary entries on Carroll's religious guilt outbursts is primarily due...
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DOYLE60@...
Apr 10, 2000 3:18 am
Reflections In A Looking-glass: A Centennial Celebration Of Lewis Carroll, Photographer. Though I much appreciate having - finally - an attractive,...
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KarolineLouise@...
Apr 10, 2000 10:32 am
The facts in this case are simple and few: between about 1862 and 1868, CLD was embroiled in a desperate guilt that he nowhere specifically defined. His...
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DOYLE60@...
Apr 10, 2000 4:52 pm
Karoline, You have a strong case indeed and you argue it so well here that I'm wondering if I have to read your book when it finally arrives. But reading your...
