A correspondent wrote "Do you know whether Charles Dodgson ever wrote about America, especially the Civil War and/or America's struggles with the 'Negro...
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KarolineLouise@...
Aug 1, 2000 7:18 pm
Well, guys - look what I just found by pure chance while doing a search on the web. This is some person'swebsite wherein he/she is saying exactly what he...
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Joel Birenbaum
birenbau@...
Aug 1, 2000 8:48 pm
... From: KarolineLouise@... Reply-To: lewiscarroll@egroups.com Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:18:17 EDT ... I've never met anyone so attached to smiley faces...
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Kate Lyon
lyon@...
Aug 1, 2000 9:22 pm
As a new chum, a total LC beginner - I've actually found you folk to be helpful and not at all opinionated. I don't know Karoline's work at all - but I read...
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Melanie Miller Fletcher
xanadu1@...
Aug 1, 2000 9:26 pm
Why, thank you for accessing my website, Karoline. As for posting it on my journal instead of on the group, I did it for the same reason you go home and...
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Arne Moll
arnemail@...
Aug 1, 2000 11:21 pm
... Internet ... Well, maybe I prefer his smileys above his language. Anyway, it's too easy to make comments about this 'essay' by a 'technical writer'. It's...
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AnisaT@...
Aug 1, 2000 11:49 pm
Oh dear Arne, I'd duck if I were you! First, I'm pretty sure SHE was being ironic in the piece you quoted and, second SHE, is a self-confessed feminist! Talk...
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KarolineLouise@...
Aug 2, 2000 12:38 am
Hi all, Well said Joel - it was as much fun to read is it was to write. Arne, yes, I suspect you are indeed the 'dinkwad' in question. Melanie, no bad feeling...
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horukoti@...
Aug 2, 2000 4:59 am
... Somebody's writing Lewis Carroll porn? Please explain. Horukhoti...
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lyon@...
Aug 2, 2000 6:05 am
Hullo. Stolen Waters bears such a close resemblance to La Belle Dame Sans Merci that I'm wondering if it has some deeper meaning - or is it just another...
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Arne Moll
arnemail@...
Aug 2, 2000 7:47 am
Melanie, ... Sorry I called you 'he'. That was an accident. But again, you raise an interesting, if hilarious, point. See, I don't go home, grouse to my ...
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mikeindex@...
Aug 2, 2000 9:22 am
... As far as I know he never wrote anything publicly on this point, but in case this is of interest, he owned two books called 'Appeal to Pharaoh: the Negro ...
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mikeindex@...
Aug 2, 2000 9:24 am
Hi Kate. You've probably missed this as there's been quite a long gap, but I was in the process of doing a series of analyses of CLD's serious poems, and I'm ...
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AnisaT@...
Aug 2, 2000 10:04 am
In a message dated 02/08/00 08:51:24 GMT Daylight Time, arnemail@... writes: << (By the way, John, somehow it's hard for me to imagine that someone who ...
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AnisaT@...
Aug 2, 2000 10:09 am
I find Carroll's interest in the 'Slavery Question' (no matter how slightly referenced) of overwhelming interest. I wonder if this guy Macfarland left a diary...
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Kate Lyon
lyon@...
Aug 2, 2000 10:32 am
You're probably right! I have always wondered if the Belle Dame was the leanan sidhe - perhaps the fairy that sat on LC's shoulder when he was young! But...
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AnisaT@...
Aug 2, 2000 10:51 am
Interesting you should mention the Pre-Raphaelites Kate. I've always thought that 'Stolen Waters' is the most 'Pre-Raphaelite' of all Carroll's poetry. To me...
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mikeindex@...
Aug 2, 2000 12:17 pm
... Yes, alas there is quite a bit of Carroll-inspired 'erotica' on the web and elsewhere. Most of it is semi-literate sad old trash. Actuall correction -...
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HLebailly@...
Aug 2, 2000 3:00 pm
The only example of French Carroll-inspired porn I know of is a 20-page album entitled 'Perverse Alice', by Silvio Cadelo & Celia Dogson (obviously a silly ...
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mxburste@...
Aug 2, 2000 3:28 pm
... This is a vast subject, fortunately well documented in a lecture "Alice Blue, or 'Alice Does Wonderland'" given to the West Coast Chapter of the LCSNA a...
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HLebailly@...
Aug 2, 2000 3:29 pm
As far as I know, Keats's La Belle Dame Sans Merci has inspired rather fewer Pre-Raphaelite painters than one could have expected : apart from a sketch by ...
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mxburste@...
Aug 2, 2000 3:30 pm
... This is a vast subject, fortunately well documented in a lecture "Alice Blue, or 'Alice Does Wonderland'" given to the West Coast Chapter of the LCSNA a...
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mxburste@...
Aug 2, 2000 3:42 pm
... wrote ... struggles ... but in case ... the Negro ... Jeffrey Stern ... et al)' . ... from ... Commissioner. I ... of ... Very, and quite well researched....
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mxburste@...
Aug 2, 2000 3:57 pm
... the Negro ... Jeffrey Stern ... et al)' . "Appeal to Pharaoh etc." was written by Carlyle McKinley (1847-1904) and was republished in 1970 by Negro...
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Ian G.
482ig@...
Aug 2, 2000 4:03 pm
I wondered if anyone could suggest auction sites where there may be translations of Alice offered. I know of www.ebay.com - any others? You may reply to me...
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DOYLE60@...
Aug 2, 2000 6:22 pm
<< I wondered if anyone could suggest auction sites where there may be translations of Alice offered. >> Is there a used bookseller that specializes in Alice...
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KarolineLouise@...
Aug 2, 2000 7:13 pm
I have to agree with Kate Lyon and Mike that 'Stolen Waters' is an incredibly fascinating piece of work. for all sorts of reasons. I's weird and erotic, echoes...
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Kate Lyon
lyon@...
Aug 2, 2000 8:56 pm
Thank you for your responses! Lots to mull over. The Leanan Sidhe was one of the Tuatha (the Irish faery folk), who lived in a sort of tripartite world in...
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mikeindex@...
Aug 2, 2000 9:16 pm
Hi Matt. ... who ... There's one in London - 'Marchpane', in Cecil Court, off Charing Cross Road. (Don't have the exact address or phone no. to hand, but I...
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mikeindex@...
Aug 3, 2000 9:05 am
Okay, here is the text of the poem that Kate, Karoline and John have been discussing. I don't know why it has been as overlooked as it has. Probably a comment...