... how the rise of the last man will be achieve through capitalism.< I am going through a few days mail at once so if someone else has already taken this up I...
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David Wilfinger
DJW@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Nov 1, 1999 3:45 pm
Dear Mr. Sorensen, "I grow old, I grow old . . . I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled." Sorry; someone summoned the shade of Prufrock; I thought I'd...
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Bill Lord
blord@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Nov 1, 1999 3:49 pm
Mr. Pehme, Than, in this case, is the maker himself "the ugliness at the heart of the work of art"? Bill...
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Bill Lord
blord@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Nov 1, 1999 3:49 pm
Mr. Pehme, Than, in this case, is the maker himself "the ugliness at the heart of the work of art"? Bill...
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Andrew Lancaster
100761.200@xxxxxxxxxx...
Nov 1, 1999 4:22 pm
... How would you define what it is which is common to the second group of things? These things start to *look* the same as the first group from the point of...
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Andrew Lancaster
100761.200@xxxxxxxxxx...
Nov 1, 1999 4:31 pm
... does not un-ease have more in common with Hobbesian "Fear" than Socratic "eros"? Fear leads to trying to overcome it.. and often requires calculation......
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John W. Grant
jgrant@xxxx.xxxxxxx.x...
Nov 1, 1999 4:36 pm
Dear Mr. Wilfinger, On the surface it would seem that a Socratic (or eidetic) natural law account is an impossibility-but before one could be sure of that, I...
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Dan Watkins
dwatkins@xxxxxx.xxxx
Nov 1, 1999 6:15 pm
... Very well, and your point in another post to the effect that global capitalism tends toward universal homogeneity is well taken - there should not, indeed,...
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David Wilfinger
DJW@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Nov 1, 1999 5:11 pm
Dear Mr. Grant, Having only read Cicero's Leges and De Republica I hesitate to make any pronouncements upon his "natural law teaching." I do know that the ...
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Andrew Lancaster
100761.200@xxxxxxxxxx...
Nov 1, 1999 7:50 pm
Message text written by John Grant ... follows Machiavelli here, perhaps? Acquisition *eros* re-interpreted to get away from all star-gazing theory and...
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Bill Lord
blord@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Nov 1, 1999 7:52 pm
... kai går tOn prOtOn orOn kai tOn esxatOn [1143b] nous esti kai ou logos... Bill...
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Bill Lord
blord@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Nov 1, 1999 7:52 pm
... kai går tOn prOtOn orOn kai tOn esxatOn [1143b] nous esti kai ou logos... Bill...
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Andrew Lancaster
100761.200@xxxxxxxxxx...
Nov 1, 1999 8:07 pm
... to moderate it. One of the ways is to change the tax system. For example, all these rich people who claim to be so intelligent and who allege that they are...
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Andrew Lancaster
100761.200@xxxxxxxxxx...
Nov 1, 1999 8:15 pm
Message text written by kosta simopoulos ... agribusiness, which is of course a euphemism for collective farms! Laughable isnt it how capitalism and communism...
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Andrew Lancaster
100761.200@xxxxxxxxxx...
Nov 1, 1999 8:26 pm
... don't have the bucks, you suck. Very simple. So when these individuals finally are sitting on a bundle, something they either have earned or inherited (ah,...
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Andrew Lancaster
100761.200@xxxxxxxxxx...
Nov 1, 1999 8:48 pm
Message text written by Clifford Bates ... and the comparative alienation one feels in larger cities... I think reflects a point that democratic theory of the...
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Scot Zentner
zentner@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Nov 1, 1999 8:55 pm
... Perhaps the most interesting thread in a long time. Mr. Grant is on to something with his association of property rights and philosophic eros. The ...
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Andrew Lancaster
100761.200@xxxxxxxxxx...
Nov 1, 1999 9:28 pm
Message text written byScot Zentner ... experience of a lack into a possession of a right is the great gift to man, for it renders at least possible the...
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Scot Zentner
zentner@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Nov 1, 1999 10:18 pm
... man, ... I am honestly not sure about Strauss's comment, so I write here very much off the cuff. I think one thing that he may be getting at is the fact...
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Steve Sorensen
ssorens@xxxx.xxxxxxx....
Nov 1, 1999 10:34 pm
... It seems to me Alcibiades did not redirect or "politicize" eros but simply suffered it. You are conflating the philosophic account of eros with the...
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Steve Sorensen
ssorens@xxxx.xxxxxxx....
Nov 1, 1999 10:36 pm
... I am not clear on what the "second group of things" is. Please see my response to Mr. Grant on the opinion of the one suffering the passion. ... I...
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John W. Grant
jgrant@xxxx.xxxxxxx.x...
Nov 2, 1999 1:51 am
Dear Mr. Wilfinger, I would recommend *On Duties,* but it is also a difficult book. I see your point in the rest of the post-your argument is convincing to...
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John W. Grant
jgrant@xxxx.xxxxxxx.x...
Nov 2, 1999 2:10 am
Sorry for being unclear. I do not think Alcibiades was consciously redirecting *eros,* but he is I think an example of *eros* politicized-see his effects on...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
batesc@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Nov 2, 1999 12:49 pm
... Mr. Lancaster is correct that the EU is still a government in the making, but given the character of both the Council of Europe in its recient rulings ...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
batesc@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Nov 2, 1999 1:14 pm
... Hold on here.. if agree to the following--"On the surface it would seem that a Socratic (or eidetic) natural law account is an impossibility"--don't we ...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
batesc@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Nov 2, 1999 1:43 pm
... Mr. Zentner raises something interesting. He says that for Strauss the Crisis of the West and the Crisis of Natural Right being the same thing. He also...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
batesc@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Nov 2, 1999 1:57 pm
... Ok.. some clearification here. Are not both eros and thymos both forms of desire /passion? How is "unease" a desire/passion? Perhaps this question has...
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Steve Sorensen
ssorens@xxxx.xxxxxxx....
Nov 2, 1999 1:51 pm
... Well, then you think he was unconsciously redirecting eros? What does it mean to "politicize" eros? ... Well, I never claimed one is moved only by needs...
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Steve Sorensen
ssorens@xxxx.xxxxxxx....
Nov 2, 1999 1:58 pm
... Does this mean the same thing as saying that speeches, which are partial, claim to be wholes, or are you intending something different? I understand your...
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Steve Sorensen
ssorens@xxxx.xxxxxxx....
Nov 2, 1999 2:05 pm
... Yes, but are the proton oron, let alone the echaton, the same as the ideas? And is speech only logos? aporon de kai ti OphelEthEsetai uphantEs E tektOn...
