Back in 1991 Victor Gourevitch and Michael Roth published the Strauss-Kojeve correspondance. Two years later the correspondance between Strauss and Voegelin ...
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Lancelot Fletcher
lance@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Sep 8, 1999 6:26 pm
This is mainly a request for some bibliographic assistance, but there might be something worth discussing here also: In discussing the problem of translating...
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James Eisenberg
jameseisenberg@xxxxxx...
Sep 8, 1999 5:49 pm
I don't have any of Strauss' books immediately available, but seem to recall that this discussion was in The City and Man. Or maybe I think that just because...
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David Wilfinger
DJW@...
Sep 8, 1999 5:51 pm
Dear Lance, I think he makes a couple of comments upon the translation of polis as "regime" in "On Classical Politial Philosophy" in "WIPP?" Yours, David ... ...
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Yaakov Abrahamson
yaakov@...
Sep 8, 1999 9:06 pm
Shalom Lance While I too have no Strauss texts by me at this moment, his discussion of the term "city-state" is found in the Aristotle section of his C&M; this...
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Mark Gibson
mgibson@...
Sep 9, 1999 1:43 am
I am pretty sure Locke mentions the state while Hobbes never does. I will have to look this up though. Due to my thousandfold poverty I no longer have internet...
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Kalev Pehme
pehme@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx
Sep 9, 1999 2:48 pm
... May I be so bold as to suggest that Strauss derives this understanding of state from his reading of Machiavelli, who uses the word "state" in the modern...
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Lancelot Fletcher
lance@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Sep 9, 1999 8:53 pm
... Thanks, David. But isn't the word which Strauss translates by "regime" "politeia?" As to whether "regime" is a good translation of "politeia," I have long...
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Lancelot Fletcher
lance@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Sep 9, 1999 8:53 pm
... The word "state" occurs 67 times in the Leviathan. The following is the first paragraph of the introduction, in which the first of those 67 occurs: ...
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Lancelot Fletcher
lance@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Sep 9, 1999 8:53 pm
... Kalev, You may well be right about that. Certainly the received wisdom, as transmitted by D.D. Raphael in the article on "State" in the Encyclopedia ...
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Kalev Pehme
pehme@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx
Sep 9, 1999 8:24 pm
... There is nothing mysterious about the origin of the word "state" per se. The French of standing or status is rather obvious and probably was among the...
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Mark Gibson
mgibson@xxx.xx.xxx
Sep 9, 1999 9:12 pm
... Obviously, I blundered badly. That will teach me to talk without looking at the book. I apologize. Mark...
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Lancelot Fletcher
lance@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Sep 9, 1999 11:21 pm
... In Machiavelli's time I doubt that French had the same influence on the formation of Tuscan vocabulary that it had on the formation of English. But since...
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Claude Caspar
claudecaspar@xxxxx.xx...
Sep 9, 1999 11:47 pm
See first paragraph: 1 Main features of the state. (Black, A. (1992) Political Thought in Europe 1250-1450, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.(An...
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Bernie Clarke
alamazonbc@xxxxxxx.xx...
Sep 10, 1999 2:35 pm
Would Stauss ever discuss the **idea** of the state? The notion, as Mr pehme has already pointed, is Machiavellian. Would a bibliographic reference to an...
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Lancelot Fletcher
lance@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Sep 10, 1999 6:19 pm
... Good point. I accept "notion." ... I think this is a case in which the nature of my own question has become clearer to me during the course of the...
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Kalev Pehme
pehme@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx
Sep 11, 1999 4:35 pm
... for ... State or stato pre-Machiavellian would be one's standing, one's status, or the standing of a group viz. another group. The core problem with the ...
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seltzer@xxxxxxxxx.xxx...
seltzer@xxxxxxxxx.xxx...
Sep 11, 1999 6:44 pm
Very quickly, and off the top of my head, I should think that there is something illuminating on this question in Strauss's critique of Carl Schmitt and in his...
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seltzer@xxxxxxxxx.xxx...
seltzer@xxxxxxxxx.xxx...
Sep 11, 1999 6:48 pm
I am sorry to have to report that Richard Kennington died yesterday in Annapolis after a long illness. He had been extremely ill for the last few weeks, and...
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James Eisenberg
jameseisenberg@xxxxxx...
Sep 11, 1999 8:04 pm
Do you know how old he was? When I took a class from him at Cornell, I believe, in 1966, he appeared oldish, which, of course, from the point of view of an 18...
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Alan L. Seltzer
seltzer@...
Sep 11, 1999 8:38 pm
I think he was around 77 years old, but he may have been older. In recent days, I have also had conversations about the ages of others in their 70s and 80s,...
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James Eisenberg
jameseisenberg@...
Sep 11, 1999 9:48 pm
Well if being thin and exercising keeps you ripe into very old age, Jaffa should have a long way to go. Of course, at the rate he is writing his "Second...
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batesc@...
Sep 12, 1999 3:20 pm
Hi there all. I am still getting settled in at Warsaw... so it will be a few weeks before I am at full speed. But over these past weeks I have been re-reading...
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batesc@xxxx.xxx
Sep 12, 1999 4:02 pm
Just to add my two cents worth on this topic. Check out something I wrote on this topic a few years back at the following url: ...
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Lancelot Fletcher
lance@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Sep 12, 1999 8:33 pm
... I am not clear what is being asserted here. The word "state" (and presumably "stato" as well) is used in a number of different ways, and "status", meaning...
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Bernie Clarke
alamazonbc@xxxxxxx.xx...
Sep 13, 1999 1:35 am
... From: Lancelot Fletcher <lance@...> To: leo-strauss@onelist.com <leo-strauss@onelist.com> Date: Saturday, 11 September 1999 2:46 Subject: RE:...
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Bernie Clarke
alamazonbc@xxxxxxx.xx...
Sep 13, 1999 6:38 am
Now for a substantive reply. ... From: Lancelot Fletcher <lance@...> To: Leo-Strauss List <leo-strauss@Onelist.Com> Date: Thursday, 9 September...
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Reid Heller
srheller@...
Sep 13, 1999 3:48 pm
I am grateful for Bernie Clark's comments on stato. The following sentence, in particular, seems to me illuminating: Bernie Clark The state is not partisan....
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Lancelot Fletcher
lance@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Sep 13, 1999 10:48 pm
... I don't think it is simplistic, but, although you propose an interesting line of inquiry, I also think it tends more to divert than to advance examination...
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Claude Caspar
claudecaspar@xxxxx.xx...
Sep 13, 1999 10:33 pm
Lance, you have raised a very interesting debate. I posted that article thinking the book it cited (which I don't have) might be known because it seemed it...
