... After thinking about all of Yaakov's recent posts, I have started to understand his position. He is not championing nihilism, but suggesting that nihilism...
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Kalev Pehme
pehme@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx
Mar 1, 1999 2:40 pm
... I understand that he is not championing nihilism; however, to see this world in nihilistic terms requires the destruction of the metaphysical world upon...
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emile nowis
enowis@xxxxxx.xxx
Mar 1, 1999 5:20 pm
Dear Cameron and Shalom Yaakov: I listen to Cameron's concern about our trust in our physical world, and that kind of challenge to nihilism. Is this the same...
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John W. Grant
jgrant@xxxx.xxxxxxx.x...
Mar 1, 1999 4:42 pm
I don't think I have any disagreement with you here. I was only saying that a truly honest or consistent nihilist would realize the futility of willing and...
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Lancelot Fletcher
lance@...
Mar 1, 1999 6:45 pm
... I went and visited Wayne Allen's Yahoo Strauss Club. I posted the following response there (in 3 parts -- one of the things I discovered is that the Yahoo...
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Ted Vaggalis
tvaggali@...
Mar 1, 1999 6:45 pm
I have visited the Yahoo site and am unimpressed with what is there. Aside from the chat room, there is not really anything that is preferrable to our list...
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John Grant
jgrant@...
Mar 1, 1999 8:46 pm
Reading this post, I was reminded of the Spartan king Archidamus in Thucydides, who says that men are only men after they have completed 23 years of Spartan...
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Hilail Gildin
gildin@...
Mar 2, 1999 1:45 am
This is in response to the following comment by John Wenger concerning my effort to explain, at least in part, Strauss's claim that there cannot be natural...
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Lancelot Fletcher
lance@...
Mar 2, 1999 6:45 am
I thought others here might be amused as I was by the way somebody at Amazon.com wrote the title of Strauss's Machiavelli book: Thoughts on MacHiavelli . Lance...
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Steve Sorensen
ssorens@xxxx.xxxxxxx....
Mar 2, 1999 2:51 pm
... One wonders, Mr. Abrahamson, how you fail to see the desire for vindication in your futile attempts to justify your refusal to admit the contradictions in ...
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Kalev Pehme
pehme@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx
Mar 2, 1999 3:12 pm
... Of course, there is an easy answer here to Mr. Sorensen: The law of contradiction is arbitrary, the point of Mr. Abrahamson's argument. In a certain sense,...
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Steve Sorensen
ssorens@xxxx.xxxxxxx....
Mar 2, 1999 2:56 pm
... And then he is dead. In which case he is no longer a nihilist--unless we are to say that rocks are nihilists because they too do nothing. This does not...
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Steve Sorensen
ssorens@xxxx.xxxxxxx....
Mar 2, 1999 3:13 pm
... So he would commit suicide by starving to death--or would he stop breathing and simply suffocate? Or are eating and breathing not willing? So, Nihilism...
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Kalev Pehme
pehme@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx
Mar 2, 1999 3:18 pm
... Not necessarily dead, but quite apathetic. Best regards, Kalev Pehme...
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David Wilfinger
DJW@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Mar 2, 1999 3:53 pm
The paragraph continues: The tradition of political philosophy, being a tradition, took for granted the necessity and possibility of political philosophy. The...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
cbates@xxxx.xxx
Mar 2, 1999 7:10 pm
Regarding the debate of nihilism. Let me once again refer you all to Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness and the comments of the narrator near the end about the...
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Steve Sorensen
ssorens@xxxx.xxxxxxx....
Mar 2, 1999 7:01 pm
... What? Eating isn't doing something rather than nothing? How about breathing? And even if you say these things are nothing so that one can do nothing and ...
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John W. Grant
jgrant@xxxx.xxxxxxx.x...
Mar 2, 1999 7:13 pm
Yes, but the nihilist cannot create meaning in a meaningless reality-that would be an impossible (Nietzschean) attempt for a human being to become God, to...
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JCWENGER@...
Mar 2, 1999 7:21 pm
John Grant wrote, ********* From: "John W. Grant" <jgrant@...> Dear Yaakov and Steve, First, I would like to thank Yaakov for his recent series of...
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JCWENGER@...
Mar 2, 1999 7:21 pm
Yaakov has sent us a reply to my post, and I think it is the clearest expression yet of his thought (insofar as it represents his scientific side). Here it is,...
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JCWENGER@...
Mar 2, 1999 7:21 pm
Dan Watkins wrote, ******** I think I would respectfully take issue with this. It seems to me that there is a convincing argument that perceptions (if...
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JCWENGER@...
Mar 2, 1999 7:21 pm
Cameron Wybrow said, "But what if, in the very passages you are pointing out in Strauss, Strauss came to the conclusion that one *cannot* determine whether ...
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JCWENGER@...
Mar 2, 1999 7:21 pm
Cameron Wybrow wrote in part to Steve Sorensen: •••••••••• I have no "solution" to the problem as Strauss has posed it (indeed, I am not...
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JCWENGER@...
Mar 2, 1999 7:21 pm
Dan Watkins said, "I don't see this. I think that we *can* demonstrate that the apprehension of things is not an apprehension of them existing in themselves...
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John W. Grant
jgrant@...
Mar 2, 1999 7:11 pm
I don't think I disagree with your position-I think that nihilism does lead to tyranny, war, etc. because human beings would rather will nothing than not will...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
cbates@...
Mar 2, 1999 10:28 pm
From: "John W. Grant" <jgrant@...> Yes, but the nihilist cannot create meaning in a meaningless reality-that would be an impossible (Nietzschean)...
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Yaakov Abrahamson
yaakov@...
Mar 2, 1999 10:10 pm
... Shalom Cameron Yes and no. Actually I'm championing neither science/nihilism (moderns) nor philosophy/politics (ancients). Rather I'm drawing attention...
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Kalev Pehme
pehme@...
Mar 2, 1999 10:43 pm
... breathing? ... someone ... doing ... table, ... food ... or ... enslaved ... Why do you assume that anyone would defend a nihilist? The point is that the ...
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Dan Watkins
dwatkins@...
Mar 3, 1999 2:40 am
... believes ... I find it astonishing that anyone does not believe it, having once considered it. But you are right, we've been through it, and I won't bore ...
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Cameron Wybrow
wybrowc@...
Mar 3, 1999 1:45 am
... No. That is merely a formal truth. I am talking about physical truths. The light switch turns the light on, always, when the generator at the hydro plant...
