Dear John A faction in Israel do claim all of Palestine and make many of the same sounds about Palestinians as you say Palestinians make about Jews. So there...
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Aug 1, 2001 7:03 am
Dear John The substance of several large articles I have seen is that the Palestinians "were no offered the moon", and that there are "dangerous myths" in the...
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Aug 1, 2001 7:07 am
All true. My only question, given the context, is whether this tyranny is a cause or effect of the Israeli aggresion. ... children in ... children ... against ...
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Aug 1, 2001 7:15 am
Dear John This is the core of our disagreement. I would not equate them by the way. I just say equate their imprudence and impracticality for the current...
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Aug 1, 2001 7:17 am
Arguably Jordan, Marocco, Lebanon and few others? They are certainly not Western democracies, but this does not make them tyrannies. ... following post ... ...
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Aug 1, 2001 7:22 am
Dear John The Palestinian cause you mention is NOT the main one. This is just misleading. The way that the hard liners on both sides are causing tragedy (in a ...
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Brett Dutton
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Aug 1, 2001 8:24 am
... Nevertheless, you woke a sleeping puppy! Didn't we (timely) show those American, and Canadian, swimmers in Japan what really counts - gold? :-) Your...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
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Aug 1, 2001 9:38 am
Well in the eastern half.. you can be staggering.... And I do catch a great deal of that here in Warsaw. :) Regards Clifford ... === message truncated === ...
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Aug 1, 2001 9:44 am
Dear John I have responded to what I see as a wrong direction in your answer in another post. Returning to the subject matter, in what way does your original ...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
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Aug 1, 2001 9:46 am
Yes, and their understanding of the US is mostly obtained from MTV, hollywood movies, US literature who obtains notice over here, and the Americans who come to...
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Aug 1, 2001 9:50 am
Dear Brett I will try digging up the old postings. But the main point is this: Strauss does not just promote the need for tension in debate. In his seeming...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
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Aug 1, 2001 9:51 am
They should be, as the Germans should have been (and where) punished for Hitler. Could we move off this issue, since it leaves little room for reason opinion,...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
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Aug 1, 2001 9:53 am
I am sorry, I have no sympathy for the Palestinians since they have yet to in practice and in fact abandon their refusal to accept Isreal's right to...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
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Aug 1, 2001 9:55 am
I quite agree with with Mr. Pheme's remarks here. Regards Clifford Bates ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make...
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Aug 1, 2001 9:56 am
Dear Clifford Is that the real America? Is it so wrong for foreigners to see the most relevant America as the one which effects you: the government, big...
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Aug 1, 2001 9:59 am
Hi Cliff 1. Many have given up on it. 2. Sorry! Regards Andrew ... first ... were killed. ... both in terms ... when ... happened after ... had lost a ... ...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
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Aug 1, 2001 10:02 am
But I don't think you, Mr. Lancaster, follow the logic of Jabotinsky's line of thinking... cause if the issue is unsolvable.. only violence and elimination of...
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Aug 1, 2001 10:04 am
Hard call Cliff. Especially when the bad regime and desperate acts of the Palestinians are at least partially an effect and not a cause. But it's hard to argue...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
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Aug 1, 2001 10:05 am
Oh please.... of course they would say that.. they want to wash their hands of what happend do to their coddling of the PA, which greatly echos their behavior...
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Aug 1, 2001 10:09 am
Hi Clifford It is possible I have missed the point, but it does not seem so from what you say. If the whole issue is unavoidable violence, and "might makes...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
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Aug 1, 2001 10:09 am
The BBC is hardly to be treated as objective these day following New Labor England, in fact the BBC is rather loony regarding American politics and life. They...
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Aug 1, 2001 10:11 am
Hi Cliff Well, maybe. But as long as everyone reads all sides, I'm happy. On the other hand I am not really a hard liner when it comes to this theory that one...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
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Aug 1, 2001 10:12 am
How to answer this question..... Hum... How democratic are the nearby Arab states? These guys are not ruled by Isreal are they? And most of them are just as...
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Aug 1, 2001 10:13 am
I disagree, although your *general* comments about the BBC might be right. The Panorama unit which made this doco is excellent. No one has criticised it like...
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Aug 1, 2001 10:16 am
Dear Cliff I think this is a dead end issue, and not pivotal to this debate, but I personally think that Lebanon and Palestinia (with or without Jews) had a...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
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Aug 1, 2001 10:18 am
Actually this is incorrect. The russians and czech do, or so the EU's commission of Women have reciently reported. I know this because I have spent a month...
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Aug 1, 2001 10:28 am
Hello all A few comments. 1. In my opinion, Mr Grant makes incisive comments, and Mr Simopoulos does not. But, nevertheless, I think Mr Grant's view of Europe...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
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Aug 1, 2001 10:29 am
This given what just occured is the only prudent course of action, in Aristotle's full understanding of that term! Regards Clifford Bates ... ...
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Aug 1, 2001 10:33 am
Perhaps true. But Mr Caspar was pointing this out to someone who did not seem to admit it. It certainly true that the Arab - Israeli wars are what ruined the ...
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Clifford Angell Bates...
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Aug 1, 2001 10:39 am
Mr. Lancaster, I am sorry but it is more reasonable that current Isreali public opinion regarding the Palestians arise not from Sharon but by the ...
