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--- In legality-of-income-tax@yahoogroups.com, Richard Stokes
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> The SC has clearly ruled that the 16th does not mean
> what it appears to say!

Please cite the case that so ruled. (Btw, if it's Evans v. Gore,
please note that that case has been overruled and is no longer the law.)





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Prof said: "> so that at ... Not true! There is nothing that says that no tax on incomes does not need apportionment! The SC has clearly ruled that the 16th...
Richard Stokes
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Mar 17, 2007
8:32 pm

... Please cite the case that so ruled. (Btw, if it's Evans v. Gore, please note that that case has been overruled and is no longer the law.)...
prof_5string
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Mar 18, 2007
2:02 pm

"The 16th Amendment means exactly what it says, folks. Live with it." As Edmunster would say, text without context is error. The face value of the 16th is...
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Mar 20, 2007
12:03 am

... And the tax deniers continue to wave this quote around as if it were a crucifix intended to ward off a vampire, when in fact it has nothing to do with...
prof_5string
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Mar 20, 2007
2:58 am

And Tarrifs have to do with foreign commerce !!!! So I guess the 'income tax laws' have to do with foreign commerce Statutes !!!!!??? That WOULD make sense...
Frank
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Mar 14, 2007
12:31 am

Since you SOLD it, frank, that means you TRANSFERRED the ownership. Therefore, what you got for the property is INCOME. No Income Tax requires apportionment,...
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Mar 14, 2007
12:32 am

Try Brushaber for starters !!!!!!! ... From: <esenter@...> To: <legality-of-income-tax@yahoogroups.com> Cc: "Frank" <frankmymail@...> Sent:...
Frank
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Mar 15, 2007
10:39 pm

Yea, so ! An income tax law regarding Tarrifs !! That REALLY fits in nicely with 861 !! Thanks , Ed ! ... From: <esenter@...> To:...
Frank
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Mar 15, 2007
10:41 pm

With all that rhetoric you can't get past the truth that whatever you are paid for your labor is a gain derived from your labor. As such, to tax that gain...
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Mar 15, 2007
10:42 pm

The truth ed? You would be the last one that I would expect to tell the truth. You bounce around the truth more than a golf ball bounces around in a tile ...
Richard Stokes
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Mar 17, 2007
8:50 pm

The name of an act of Congress does not necessarily reveal all that is within the contents of the act. The Act of 1913 clearly imposed an Income tax law....
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Mar 15, 2007
10:52 pm

Which Act of 1913 ed? Still confused? Tariff or Tax? You said Tariff and messed up. Not willing to admit it? A real man will admit his mistakes. Childish men, ...
Richard Stokes
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Mar 17, 2007
8:35 pm

This should be interesting. Please provide any ruling post 16th Amendment that held some income tax required apportionment. (It will soon be obvious that frank...
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Mar 15, 2007
10:53 pm

The bottom line is, yes, an INCOME TAX IS A TAX ON INCOME. You provided the case yourself- Stratton's Independence. The Corporation Excise Tax of 1909 was NOT...
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Mar 17, 2007
8:50 pm

... Well not all. Because some income tax acts were ruled unconstitutional. ... True. Considering that definition of income. I can agree to cut Bobs' lawn for...
Richard Stokes
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Mar 18, 2007
2:01 pm

Too bad Prof, that YOU don't understand what the 16th Amendment MEANS !!!!!!!! I guess you would elect to tax your own earnings !!! Were you born with the...
Frank
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Mar 18, 2007
1:51 pm

... Yet the same Constitution whose Preamble you quote explicitly grants Congress the power to levy taxes, including income taxes. That is the law, like it or...
prof_5string
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Mar 19, 2007
1:14 am

Baloney, Ed !!!! Prove that money is income !!!!!!!!! And you deceive the truth by interchanging "FOR" and "FROM" !!!!!!!! You have been publicly exposed and...
Frank
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Mar 18, 2007
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Probably not !!! They most likely tax the ACT !!!!!!!!!!! MEASURED by the income ,of the taxed ACT !!!!!!!!!! ... From: Richard Stokes To:...
Frank
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Mar 18, 2007
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The first Income Tax law as we know it was contained in a the law entitled The Tariff Act of 1913. As you should know, the name of the act does not...
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Mar 18, 2007
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What are you getting at, stokes? Wages are Income. Section 1 imposes a tax on taxable income. Your wage would be included in that tax among all of your other...
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Mar 18, 2007
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You are paid money for your labor. That is an exchange. Whether or not that money is income is a totally different question. Income is a gain derived from...
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Mar 19, 2007
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... How does that change the MEANING of income? It doesn't. ... Why can't Joe derive a gain from his own labor? The definition does not limit the meaning of...
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Mar 19, 2007
1:15 am

So you DO believe that I have an unalieanable RIGHT to take some of your property !!!!!!!!! And exactly WHO do you think is this CONGRESS that IS the "We the...
Frank
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Mar 19, 2007
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I have been GIVEN money, for my labor ! The exchange is DONE ! My laboring, has acquired ME a greater value of property OWNERSHIP! Is the greater value, of...
Frank
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Mar 19, 2007
7:03 am

You have realized an increase in wealth. Yes, it is income....
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Mar 19, 2007
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Hey, Prof is deceiving us again ! Those are classes of PROPERTY !!! the law taxed incomes from other classes of property than real estate and invested personal...
Frank
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Mar 21, 2007
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... No, they aren't. They're things people do to earn income. If they were property, then the Pollock court would have held that a tax on the income derived...
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Mar 22, 2007
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frank keeps posting "THE CONCLUSION REACHED IN THE POLLOCK CASE...", now you are doing it. Why? The 16th Amendment did away with "the conclusion reached in...
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Mar 21, 2007
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Yes, Prof, they are classes of PROPERTY !!!! Nothing could serve to make this clearer than to recall that in the Pollock Case, in so far as the law taxed...
Frank
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