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Using Central Valley 150' Truss Bridge for Coal Branch   Message List  
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Re: Using Central Valley 150' Truss Bridge for Coal Branch

Spen:

Found it! There were a couple of engines like yours, yours and the Skookum that
boomed around on a couple of logging roads. Yes these were logging engines but I
won't snitch...

Skookum/#7 was 65 tons on the drivers so that's 130,000 lbs divided by four or
32,500 lbs per axle so you bet that works. The Russian Dec is about the same. By
comparison the USRA light Mike is about 50,000 pounds.

Also just clutching out of the air... A bridge survey I found lists a Wisconsin
"riveted pony truss" along with several wood pile and deck sections, implying a
light bridge, at a Cooper E-56 so I'm kinda in the ballpark with the USRA light
as an upper limit.

Jim Albanowski

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Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:42 pm

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How do I determine the load limit for the Central Valley 150' Truss Bridge? As I understand, that bridge is for "branchlines", but could it be used for a Coal...
Kenneth Leaver Jr
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Jul 13, 2009
2:47 pm

Ken: Drilling down on the CV bridge didn't give me the Cooper Rating for weight capacity. So let's go with the date, 1902. Cars were in the 50 ton loaded range...
Jim Albanowski
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Jul 13, 2009
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OK, with that information, would this kind of "situation" be plausible? I know it's my model railroad and I can do whatever I like with it, but I am trying to...
Kenneth Leaver Jr
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Jul 13, 2009
5:28 pm

... Jim, Do you think the Little River 2-4-4-2 would have been considered too heavy? I couldn't resist buying one and, since I have a few Shays for the logging...
Spen Kellogg
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Jul 13, 2009
10:19 pm

Spen: No Little River Mallet would be would fine. I don't have weights in front of me but we are talking a light locomotive that got a hinge to go around some...
Jim Albanowski
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Jul 13, 2009
10:48 pm

... Thanks, Jim. I heard someplace that the Central Valley bridge was based on an actual SP bridge, but I don't know which one. If someone knows that info, we...
Spen Kellogg
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Jul 13, 2009
11:58 pm

You COULD also replace the plastic "rodding" with solid members and have a reasonably good representation of a higher tonnage truss bridge. CV sells bridge...
Jim Duncan
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Jul 14, 2009
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I believe the inspiration for the bridge was on the NP as that is the road CVs owner Jack Parker models. My friend "beefed up" his as suggested and can be seen...
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Jul 14, 2009
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Spen: Found it! There were a couple of engines like yours, yours and the Skookum that boomed around on a couple of logging roads. Yes these were logging...
Jim Albanowski
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Jul 13, 2009
11:43 pm

sounds plausible to me - the B&O had a branch to a mine near Meyersdale, PA that has just such a limited bridge. ...
Steve Hanlon
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Jul 13, 2009
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In a message dated 7/13/2009 11:29:21 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, kleaver@... writes: When there was only Steam available (i.e. before diesels come...
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In a message dated 7/14/2009 4:18:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ldsig@yahoogroups.com writes: The reason the RR does not build a new bridge is it would be...
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Jul 14, 2009
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Spen Based on what the others have said about the bridge, your Shays maybe be to heavy for the bridge. It depends on which Shays you have. If you have the...
Larry Smith
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Jul 14, 2009
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... Larry, I have MDC Shays, and I'll probably backdate one with the Walker kit. I also have a small brass Shay. However, your point is taken and I may just...
Spen Kellogg
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Jul 14, 2009
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... with ... Spen What is your primary source(s) of information regarding the Coos Bay Branch? I ask because I am trying to come up with a plausible model of ...
pgandw
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Jul 14, 2009
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... Fred, William A. Lansing published a book in 2007 titled "Can't You Hear the Whistle Blowin'." It is subtitled "Logs, Lignite, and Locomotives in Coos...
Spen Kellogg
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Jul 15, 2009
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... Spen Thanks for the information. You gave me some good starting points. Will contact you off list when I return from my travels. Fred Wright...
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