Hi all who may still be around here. I have been studying K for some time now. I have especially been interested in his existentialism and more specifically...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Oct 12, 2011 2:01 am
I agree with your general outline of faith and subjectivity in CUP. I think part of what needs to be incorporated into your description of faith as it is...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Oct 12, 2011 11:46 am
I suggest these preliminary questions for subjectivity: Do I will to believe? Do I will to understand Kierkegaard? And these parallel Either/Or thoughts: I...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Oct 12, 2011 1:10 pm
Good questions, but I wonder about a couple of them. Kierkegaard isn't Christ. We don't need to understand him to attain subjectivity. Those most likely to...
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jimstuart46
Oct 12, 2011 7:46 pm
This intoxicating mixture of thoughts is making my head spin. My advice to you, gnosticism6794, is to proceed slowly. K argues that becoming a Christian is not...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Oct 12, 2011 8:41 pm
"Do I will to believe?" facilitates subjectivity/faith. "Do I will to understand Kierkegaard?" facilitates objectivity, the contrast, the "Or", spiritlessness,...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Oct 12, 2011 8:43 pm
Ha... wonderful.... if gnosticism6794's post brought Jim Stuart back on the list, must have been a good one indeed. But since when was Jim S an aesthete? I...
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jimstuart46
Oct 13, 2011 9:08 pm
David, Don't be afraid of posting on this forum – the old hands may appear intimidating but they (we) know less than we think we do. Anyway your introductory...
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Don Anderson
nancyanddonray
Oct 14, 2011 2:31 am
Greetings from The Island of Hawaii where it is 79 degrees all year. It is good to hear from my dear friend Jim Stewart. It is good to learn that our...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Oct 14, 2011 3:19 am
I'd really like to look at this statement by Jim S because I think it says a great deal: "However, K argues, objectivity has no place in the ethical domain or...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Oct 14, 2011 5:54 pm
SK et ne quid nimis... sort of like a vegan barbeque?...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Oct 14, 2011 6:08 pm
Yep. If it doesn't involve a contradiction, it's not K. Jim R...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Oct 14, 2011 6:15 pm
Though I should add that "nothing being in excess" has nothing to do with it. K never discounts the reality of the objective. That would be stupid. Climacus,...
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gnosticism6794
Oct 14, 2011 7:20 pm
... Hi Jim. I ust wanted to say to the group thank you for the awesome input on my questions and the subject. I haven't replied because I am working alot...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Oct 14, 2011 10:17 pm
"ne quid nimis" Is it not a repeatedly despised method? "...take subjectivity too far?" Would not subjectivity constitute "a good cause"? Would this not...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Oct 14, 2011 10:51 pm
Oh no, I agree -- taking nothing too far is a repeatedly despised method. Had nothing to do with my post, though. The point of my post wasn't to preserve a...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Oct 14, 2011 11:54 pm
My answer to your question is "No. SK could not imagine it taken too far, and I cannot imagine it taken too far. That would be to adopt 'ne quid nimis'." I...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Oct 14, 2011 11:58 pm
I tend to forget the existence Kierkegaard hagiography. I'm not worried about having an objective relationship to Kierkegaard's writings because his writings...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Oct 15, 2011 1:03 am
Good news! I am quite convinced Kierkegaard is in your corner. He would be wroth to be named as essential. But he would be delighted to be an occasion... ka...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Oct 15, 2011 1:12 am
Yes... that's a plausible response from K. Other times he seemed to take himself a bit too seriously, imagined everyone was thinking/talking about him (though...
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jimstuart46
Oct 15, 2011 10:15 am
Hello again Don, I am pleased to hear you are reasonably well and still pushing yourself to the limit. You write: "I think you are right to say that Abraham in...
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jimstuart46
Oct 15, 2011 10:39 am
Kenneth, You write to Jim R: <<My answer to your question is "No. SK could not imagine it taken too far, and I cannot imagine it taken too far. That would be...
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jimstuart46
Oct 15, 2011 11:23 am
Jim R, I wrote: However, K argues, objectivity has no place in the ethical domain or the religious domain. What would be more absurd than the Christian...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Oct 15, 2011 1:26 pm
Jim S: Thanks very much for your response. There's only one sentence in it that I disagree with, and that's only if you meant it in an absolute sense. I'll ...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Oct 15, 2011 1:44 pm
jim_the_aesthete, I attributed the question (Does Kierkegaard take subjectivity too far?) to Jim R. That is my error. Your recouched questions: "How far do...
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jimstuart46
Oct 16, 2011 3:26 pm
Jim R, You questioned the last sentence of my post – picking up on my word "ridiculous". However I meant the sentence to be an expansion of the previous...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Oct 16, 2011 5:48 pm
Jim S: Regarding the broad points of your reading of K, you seem to be disagreeing with me by repeating one of my main points back to me in your own words. My...
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jimstuart46
Oct 16, 2011 9:03 pm
Kenneth, Thank you for reminding me that certain essential Kierkegaardian themes are not emphasized in FT. Consciousness of guilt, consciousness of sin, and a...
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jimstuart46
Oct 16, 2011 9:40 pm
Jim R, You write: << In that case "objective reliability" is the opposite of, not synonymous with, "objective uncertainty." >> Yes, I got myself in a muddle, I...
