I agree, for the most part, Kenneth -- how do those answers bear upon your previous questions/comments? I think that listening to oneself as an existing...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Dec 5, 2009 2:43 pm
Jim R, ... being? Not at all unless one might learn first to listen to one's self as an existing individual. If there's no value conceivable in one's ...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Dec 5, 2009 4:37 am
Kenneth -- I'm finally going to get to my reading of one of the quotations you provide. Just one for now. My view of the word "dialectic" is that it is not in...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Dec 5, 2009 4:22 am
... learn from you. I am quite capable fantasizing myself inventing a new overview of dialectics. In Message #8646 Jim R was explaining the various flavors of...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Dec 5, 2009 3:09 am
How could you possibly know what another person knows as a subjective being, Kenneth? Didn't K face that problem himself? Is K's philosophy something that...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Dec 5, 2009 2:49 am
... I knew what I knew from reading the words of CUP (1941, Swenson/Lowrie)... some pages a few dozen times. I am not trying to trick anyone or educate...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Dec 4, 2009 11:56 pm
Jim S., thank you. Perhaps there was a time when your allusion to Euthyphro would have found a twig to alight, but any such perch in my brain has been clear ...
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jimstuart46
Dec 4, 2009 9:30 pm
Kenneth, Welcome to the group. You write: "If I were to start a discussion it would be this: Although I've attempted to digest 20-30 works of SK, I'm...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Dec 4, 2009 3:22 pm
Kenneth -- thanks for letting us know your schedule. No need, though. We've been pretty dead for a few weeks around here, and now you've even dragged Jim S...
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jimstuart46
Dec 4, 2009 1:35 pm
Don, In your post 8654, you wrote to Kenneth: "Of course the quantitative dialectic is "the dialectic of logic and language, dialectic in the ideal." The...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Dec 4, 2009 10:36 am
Don, WARNING! THIS MESSAGE IS A DODGE. Everyday I have 5 hours of tasks to accomplish between 4AM & 8AM. So what's the first thing I want to look at (first...
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Don A
nancyanddonray
Dec 4, 2009 9:43 am
Kenneth, excellent quote. Would you say the quaitative dialectic is objective knowledge/personal understanding or something else? Don ... reading ... which, ...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Dec 4, 2009 12:56 am
... Hmmm… Yes, my ‘analogy’ did fall totally flat. I was trying to distinguish between what I “know” by reading K unaided and...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Dec 3, 2009 3:19 pm
Ha...well, yes, Kenneth, Aunt Minnie is always a physical presence. Just to make sure I understood your analogy, did you mean by your analogy that you want to...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Dec 3, 2009 5:21 am
Jim & Don: I physically need to and will aim to be succinct, shorting you both by a single response which is contrary to my general preference. Among works of...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Dec 3, 2009 1:59 am
I like your analogy, Kenneth. My question -- maybe a variation of Don's response to you? -- is, "Is Kierkegaard's description of the different dialectics in...
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Don A
nancyanddonray
Dec 3, 2009 1:33 am
Kenneth, Presumably "dialectic" will never look like "Aunt Minnie!" "Dialectic" is an abstract concept and "Aunt Minnie" has a physical presence somewhere....
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Dec 2, 2009 11:42 pm
Will dialectic ever look like an Aunt Minnie? An experienced gentleman once told me this story: Suppose he were to write a whole book describing his Aunt...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Dec 2, 2009 9:03 pm
Ha...I'm sure you're right, Don. I do agree with you that Kenneth is indeed a great deal more knowledgeable than he first let on. Jim R...
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nancyanddonray
Dec 2, 2009 8:50 pm
... anytime ... No, there is no need for the sockpuppetometer!! Don ... the ... stages ... follow ... the ... anytime ... shucks." You ... Rovira...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Dec 2, 2009 8:33 pm
Don -- I haven't been stumped :). I haven't replied yet. Still haven't read the quotations. I did say in my initial response to Kenneth that the stages ...
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nancyanddonray
Dec 2, 2009 8:27 pm
Kenneth, You know more than you are revealing with your "gulps" and "aw shucks." You have really asked the right question. You stumped the good doctor Rovira...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Dec 2, 2009 4:11 pm
Man, who'd want to fire you, Kenneth, for providing all those quotations... thanks. I'd forgotten that Climacus made those distinctions in CUP. I'll have to...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Dec 2, 2009 1:14 pm
Jim, ...gulp... I hope this isn't where I get fired from the Kierkegaardians...I grasp that the distinction is critical... but if I want to be certain that I...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Dec 2, 2009 4:16 am
Kenneth -- Can you quote the passages from K you're thinking of? K poses a difference between quantitative and qualitative effects of sin (I think) in Concept...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Dec 2, 2009 1:33 am
Don, Thanks... The Journals & Papers arena is basically unexplored in my K experience. I didn't really have any pathos invested in the quote. You located it ...
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Kenneth
two_k_dad
Dec 2, 2009 1:04 am
Jim, Thanks for your patience. I presume this is all quite remedial to the other members. Perhaps your foregoing explanation has already answered my next...
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nancyanddonray
Dec 2, 2009 12:08 am
... seem ... his ... From this I would say that you "understand" K quite well. To wonder at the mystery of it all is our greatest task and joy. Intellectual ...
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nancyanddonray
Dec 1, 2009 10:04 pm
Dear Kenneth, welcome. Reference to the quote you ask about below is given below in my post. I don't know if you have access to any of the Journals and Papers...
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James Rovira
jamesrovira
Dec 1, 2009 3:33 pm
Yes, Kenneth, the concept of the dialectic is central to K's pseudonymous authorship. The relationship between the stages is dialectical. The two main...
